TTC & Taking Clomid &/or Metformin ~ December 06

:hello: to all the gorgous ladies here, sorry I have been hiding my misery in TWW. Plus it seems all too hard at work...

Anyway, its only my day 17, 4dpo (feels like ages) well obviously nothing happens. That's me for the day, a bit boring.

Willow, sorry to hear its a bfp, but I hope your prediction is wrong, sometimes our body can play some tricks on us...here is hoping for you sweetie

Flowerchild, how is your scan going? Hope all is well

Mako, hope your interview went ok and short listed. How is clomid & Metorfin combo treating you?

Butterfly, have you been to your appointment yet? Sorry I sort of lost track on time a bit...

Ktgirl, I am so glad you are staying here, keep us posted and looking forward to hearing the good news...it can't be too far away..

Polly, glad you didn't any side effect on taking clomid, is this your first cycle? Is your doc going to minitor it? I am on my first cycle, the b/t makes me a bit light in the head, but apart from that all ok so far...trying not to counting the days IYKWIM ;) You must be a Capricorn or an Aquarius, I have an early Feb birthday (Aquarius) and will be the same beautiful age as you are...we are just blossoming...

Monnie, I am missing you. Hope you are doing well and had your first scan....

:D Deb - I had less symptoms on 100mg than 50mg too. It is weird but sooooo much better than the cramping pains. Good luck tomorrow. I look forward to hearing how those eggs are growing :hug:

:hello: to all you beautiful ladies.

Hi everyone!

Well, Willow like you, I'm 10 dpo today, and took a test this morning and it was... a bfn. Of course, it was. Last week, I was sure this was it, but now, my hopes are going down and down for this cycle, and I'm feeling pretty depressed about it. I don't know if I have it in me to start another round of clomid, and do the process all over again.

And I have to go out with my newly preggo friend this weekend. I wish I could cancel, but that would be so obvious! That's awful of me to say... :oops:

Anyway, good luck to all you ladies. Hoping we get some BFPs on this list soon!!!!

Flowerchild I wish you all the best for your scan today. I hope you see lovely follies in there.

emmydee I know how hard it is when our friends or rello's are preg. You need to deal with this the best way you know how to hun. I think if I were you I'd have a talk to friend and explain that you are not avoiding her and are very happy for her about this preg but you are also sad because of your own situation (If that makes sense). I hope you have a lovely time with your friend sweet. The ttc journey can feel like it will never end at times but I'm sure you will get a bfp very soon. Keep your chin up hun:hug:

Willow Sorry about the bfn sweet. I feel that your bfp isn't too far away. I'll be keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you.

Pollyanna How's the clomid treating you hun? I hope this is our month!!!

BeiBei Good luck to you sweet for this cycle. I hope a bfp is only days away for you.

BW I hope you are feeling a bit better this morning. Today is the last day of work for you this year WOOHOO. Bring on the holidays sweety. I hope you are doing some nice things for yourself during this time.

Hello to all.

BW, I'm sorry you're feeling so stressed. I totally get the same way -- depression, anxiety. Anyway, it sounds like you're doing everything possible already, being proactive, and taking care of things. You'll see your FS next week. That's all you can do. So, if you can, in the meantime, try to get your mind off things. I find that the
best way is to keep really busy, running errands, hanging out with other people, etc. Or like Willow says, drink a glass of wine, and pamper yourself...

You know know, when your baby comes, he/she is going to be a really wanted and loved baby!

Thanks Mako! That made me feel better...

Hello everyone! :hello:

Just popping in to spread heaps of babydust around here to some much loved girlies.

Flowerchild: Hope your scan goes very well today :)

I'll be looking forward to hearing good news about the follie scan, Deb.

While today is being counted as the last day in the countdown, I've still got to be at work on Monday and Tuesday next week for a few other bits and pieces... Those days are nice - time to clean your desk and pack up, play games with your colleagues, Christmas parties without being interrupted by kids.

I'm feeling much, much better today. I think what had happened is that I was feeling all stuffy and congested, which was restricting my breathing... which makes me feel like I'm having a panic attack because of the way I'm breathing. It sounds completely and utterly stupid, but I've had it a couple of times before. Although, once you realise that it's just the way you are breathing, you can distract yourself and not focus on it and it very soon passes.


Emmydee, I hope the outing with your friend goes well. One thing I've learnt is that it's always much better to be open and honest with friends and family about what you are feeling, rather than bottling it up inside. Sometimes people don't realise how hard it is on us, but it's so much easier for them to support you if they know how you feel.

BW

Morning ladies. Wow I went out for the night last night and you girls have been so busy in here so much new info to read this morning. I saw the new 007 movie last night very good I would recommend to anyone who likes a good action flick.

Mako- Hi sweet girl. That is a bit weird that the Met hits you every second night. Ahh what we have to endure to get our babies.

Monnie- When do you go for a scan to see your little bub. I guess it might be a couple of weeks away??

Pollyanna- Good luck with your Clomid. Hope it does the trick for you.

BW- Woo hoo the last day of school. How exciting!!!

Willow- Sorry to hear about the bfn. Just hang in there gorgeous you will get your BFP soon.

Emmydee- It may just be too early just hang in there for a few more days. I know that it hard because I have just crumbled under the pressure of the TWW last week and tested early but you still have a few more days to show a possible +HPT.

BeiBei- Hope the TWW starts to go a little faster for you. Try and keep yourself busy it sometimes works!!!

Flowerchild- Good luck today with your scan. Can't wait to hear about those gorgeous follies.

Sorry if I have missed anyone.

Well for me AF has hit with full force today. Can't wait until Sunday to start my new drugs to see if they can bring me a new years baby. DH and I have been discussing this TTC thing and have decided that if I don't fall this month that we are going to have a break from it all for a few months. This is for a couple of reasons. The biggest is that I am bridesmaid for my SIL next Nov and I don't want to be a couple of weeks of giving birth with the fear that I will drop at her wedding and the increased risk of multiples on these injections I would go early if I was having twins anyway and that worries me(not having twins I would love twins but the going early thing). I really want to be there for her on her big day because she is really special to me and I don't want to miss it for anything. Another is I think it will be good to give my body and my mind a rest from all of this. I need to lose the 10 odd kg I have put on since my own wedding (I know that is terrible) so I guess if we don't fall this month I will use that time to look after my body and spirit for a few months in rediness to try again.

Sorry ladies I am rambling. Anyway I really should be getting ready for work. Hope you are all having a good morning :grouphug: Grouphug for us all!!!

Thanks gorgeous ones for all of your *big fat follie vibes*!!!! BFFV!!!!
Special thanks to Danni for popping in.
I will come back later for some personals. It's a biggy today so it wont' be until this afternoon. :hug:

Hi ladies,

Thanks everyone for all the info on PCOS and pg. Its really scared me to be quite honest because i have never really read deeply into PCOS but i am glad that i found all this out. I think i better buy a book or something and really read into it. So does this mean that while we are pg, we will have to be constantly monitored not only for the our pg but also for PCOS?

pollyanna - good luck with BD on all the right days, fingers crossed it works and you get your BFP! At least one of the sessions lands on your b'day! I would love to see and DP/DH reaction to that statement from your FS. LOL LOL.

emmydee & willow - so sorry for your BFN, hopefully you just tested too early and AF will stay away!

Big hello to everyone, hope you all have a FANTASTIC weekend!

Walking Art - I'm not sure what happens when we are pregnant, I haven't really looked into it too much - that's still some sort of dream state that I can barely imagine ever reaching! If you want a good book on PCOS, loor for Polycystic Ovary Syndrome - A woman's guide to identifying and managing PCOS by Dr John Eden. He's an Australian doctor and has a lot of helpful information... I was glued to the book when I got my hands on it!

Deb, any follie news yet?

BW

Yipppeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a nice ripe follie of 23mm and a lovely healthy endometrium of 11.5cms. So everything is optimal for ovulation to occur with in the next 48 hours. I am still returning -opk's so hopefully tomorrow I will get a positive. My obs said to do the deed for the next 5 nights. Sheesh! So, off we go on the next journey!
I am open to lots of :fertilise: vibes!!!!
Thanks so much for your support... :hug:

Oh Flowerchild...that is wonderful news!!!

Well done!

Get busy, girl!!!

Hi Lovelies,

Flowerchild:I hope yor enjoying your smoochy time with your special man.And i hope it creates a beautiful spunky little being.The clomid is going ok however i say that optimistically but cautiously. Still minutely dizzy. But no mood changes( a sigh of relief)..I have a slightly upset tummy.
Willow:A huge hug and hello right back at ya babe. hope you are doing ok and who know maybe your cycles don't need to become normal?Maybe they could just go away and in a few months you can have a baby...No harm in wishing.
Mako:It would be a dream come true if we could both get up the duff for the new year.Good luck babe. Enjoy the bd'ing(i will).lol.On my birthday i'm going out for tea with friends. i do have to try harder to be cheerier. i'm so distracted. mum goes in to hospital on dec 17 and surgery is dec 19.I'm so scared for her,for me and my kids who are very emotional and frightened for their nana.
BeiBei;I'm a saggitarius.I wish i could look at 36 as blossoming;it feels like wilting.lol
WalkingArt:Yes children of mothers of pcos have more complications during labour and pregnancy. or are more likely to have issues but that just makes them all the more precious.
Bw:From what the internet research says its because of the pcos that you are more likely to have complications one of them being macrosomia.This is also coomon with gd.I had one prem baby at 6 pound and one at nearly 10 pound. Bigger babies are so beautiful with their little rolls and dimples.They are smoochalicious.
Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.
Stay out of the melbourne heat.Sunburn;who needs it

Pauline

Of course you are blossoming at 36 Pauline!!!!! You are entering your wise woman age where you let go of the restrictions of youth and embrace the freedom with knowledge and wisdom!!!! I can say this emphatically because I am 39!!!!
Thanks Monnie it's great I just pray I could get a positive opk tomorrow!!!!

Yey Deb! You go catch that egg girl!! Wishing you lots of :fertilise: vibes my friend!!

As for me, thanks for all your words of encouragement girls, but I've had some spotting tonight so expect af to arrive in the morning, Sunday at the latest. I'm totally OK with it. Like I said yesterday, knowing the odds are against me makes it easier to deal with.

Will be trying to contact my FS on Monday to discuss whether it is worthwhile me taking clomid this month because i really wouldn't mind a break over xmas from the whole thing and it's not likely to do the trick for us, but will follow his advice - he's the boss!

Too tired today for personals but hope all are well and will be back over the weekend.

Off to wrap some christmas presents, we are having a little party with our mum's group tomorrow to exchange gifts for the kids so that should be fun. Except my best friend is going to be there (the one prg with twins, AGAIN) and things are a bit weird with us these days. Always a bit anxious about seeing her. Have asked her not to talk about our ttc dramas and starting IVF though because there will be people there tomorrow that I don't want knowing about all that. So that should eleviate some of the tension.

Have a happy party Willow!

Woo hoo Deb that is so fantastic. Sending you lots of :fertilise: vibes. Have fun doing all that baby making 5 nights you have your work cut out for you girl.

Willow- Hope you have a good party tomorrow. Sorry to hear that you think AF is on her way.

Hi to all of the other ladies. Hope you are all having a good night. I have had a few wines tonight with a friend so feeling nice and relaxed tonight. I am sure I will sleep well tonight after many restless nights recently coming to the end of my TWW. Getting excited starting my injections tomorrow. I thought it was Sunday but it is actually tomorrow must have been having a blonde moment when I thought it was Sunday :doh:

Best of luck Deb with all the lovin' in your house over the next few nights!!!!

Hi all!

Well, today I'm 11 dpo, and another BFN. I feel okay about it though. I was pretty depressed yesterday, but, for some reason, I feel okay today. AF is expected on Monday...

I know I was awful to complain about my newly preggo friends, but I only say this stuff to you guys. It helps to just get it out, you know. And now, I'm really beginning to feel 100% happy for them.

Flowerchild, how did your scan go?

Willow, how is it going for you? Did you test today? Wishing a BFP your way!

oops, i didn't read the last few messages. congrats on your scan Flowerchild! that sounds really, really good!

Emmydee, BFN for me too and had spotting last night so AF is on her way. Probably today or hoping tomorrow (only cause that means a 28 day cycle and hoping to keep them regular before starting IVF).

But like you, I'm OK with it this month.

Emmydee, never feel awful about saying that sort of stuff to us. This is a damned hard road and we've all felt it at times, we've all needed to get that sort of thing off our chest. And just as you have discovered, getting it out, talking about it, makes it much easier to cope and move to that place where you can be really happy for someone else, rather than let the jealousy and unhappyness take over.

So tired... late night last night... and I know the temp rise on my chart is just because I slept late. I feel like I've waited a whole year away... constantly waiting for AF with my stupidly long cycles!

BW

Emmydee, BW is right. Never be sorry about saying those things to us because we truly do understand and we know that it doesn't make you a horrible person. You should read the vent thread I've just posted about my best friend :eek: !!

Not much happening with me. AF is playing hide and seek again...sigh. Today is cd28 and apart from some pinkish coloured cm over the last 2 days nothing substantial has happened. But no, there's no chance she's not coming. Have tested twice and BFN. So she's just being annoying.

It's not such a bad thing actually because if I am a bit later this time, it will push my next cycle back a bit too and that will make it easier for me to book on for an ivf cycle in January. The clinic closes over late Dec/early Jan so it could be a bit tricky depending on how my cycle works out and I'd prefer not to have to wait till February.

So, even though it's annoying, maybe this is the universe's way of making sure things work out for January!

Anyhoo, that was a rambling if ever I've seen one.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Last night I had a lovely chat with an aunt who went through all of this sort of stuff 20 years ago. It's so nice to know that there's someone in the family who understands everything I'm going through! Of course, I'm now absolutely trashed as I ate so much food and we had to come back (the family dinner was in Newcastle, 2 hours away) last night and I've slept so late... I hate all the social events at this end of the year! I'm much, much happier to just stay at home - I really don't like going out all the time!

:hug: for you, Willow. I replied to you over in your vent thread as well.

BW

Well, I still haven't got a positive opk... Yesterday morning was the darkest and then lighter yesterday afternoon and today almost not there....
I think this is gonna be a repeat performance of the last round of clomid with a later than expected ovulation.... BLAHHHHHHHHH I feel really grumpy about it. I just wanna be someone who ovulates on cd14!!!!!!!!!!!
The only little peek of light is that I have some indigestion and that always happens for me after ovulation. However, it could be all of the Christmas food froma party yesterday too.... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Sorry Willow that your period hasn't come in force.:hug:
Butterfly - hopefully tomorrow will be a better day... :hug:

Well,
I sent off an email to my obs. I am concerned about why this ripe egg would still be hanging around...
She emailed me straight back to say she feels certain I would have ovulated by now but we should have another look and a trigger shot if not...
Okay so tomorrow I will squeeze in another u/s....
I feel glad that at least I will know what is happening,,,

Deb I really hope you don't end up needing that trigger shot and you just missed the LH surge. I hope my specialist turns out to be as wonderful as this one that you've found! I'm getting so excited about the appointment coming up so quickly!

BW

Butterfly Kirsten is an absolute gem.. I hope that for you too...

I've already been told that he's great with being available for questions via email after the first appointment... so I'm feeling pretty confident. I was chatting with the friend who hated him over dinner tonight, and she said that even though his bad side manner kinda sucked, that he is at least very thorough... I'm prepared to sacrifice a bit of bed-side manner to get my questions answered and everything checked thoroughly!

BW

What's your doctors name Butterfly?

I'm going with David Knight for now. I'm keeping Dr S up my sleeve for later, if Dr Knight can't answer my questions.

It may sound awful, but it's for the simple reason that next generation fertility has a fee structure that we can afford if we get to IVF, while there's no way we could afford IVF Australia's fees.

BW

BW, are the fee structures that different between Next Gen and IVF Australia??

Oh crud!

I've just checked the websites again, and it seems that IVFA and NGF are actually very similar... I've been getting IVFA and SIVF confused - SIVF is the one with scary charges! They seem to charge double what the other two clinics do...

Now I'm starting to wonder if I should just cancel and go with Dr S... but there's the whole convenience of location factor... Crud!

Sorry if I've confused you, Willow... I've confused myself as well! :(

BW

LOL, that's OK, I thought that you might be getting confused with Sydney IVF - there's no way we'd go with them either!! I was told there wasn't much difference at all between most of the clinics after Sydney IVF. Westmead Fertility Centre is the cheapest by far apparently as they are a not for profit organisation. We will consider them if we have a few unsuccessful cycles with IVFA.

But still, you are right about convenience. You can't be trekking into the city every time you want to see your Dr because it would mean days off work etc. That will become a major inconvenience when you are actually doing a cycle and have to have blood tests, u/sounds etc etc. I wouldn't be doing it either if I didn't work there.

So don't panic, I still think you've got the best plan in place. See Dr Knight first, and then perhaps do a one off consult with Dr S if you are still concerned about the immunology issues.

Hi everyone!

Flowerchild -- did you go to your u/s yet? When I was on clomid this last cycle (no trigger shot), I ovulated on CD 17. I heard clomid makes you ovulate later?

How is everyone else doing? Willow, did AF show yet? I hope not!

I took another test this morning (13 dpo). Don't know why I keep testing, but this a.m., my temp was still up, so I though, hey, maybe. But, no another BFN. I think my temp is up this morning, probably cuz I slept badly last night. sigh....

On a positive note, I hung out with my newly preggo friend yesterday, and I am proud of myself -- I wasn't jealous at all, and was happy for her (took a lot of mental preparation beforehand tho). I still haven't brought myself to return my other newly preggo friend's phone calls tho -- mainly because she wasn't even trying to get preggo, and I am worried she will be insensitive re my TTC issues.

Willow, I tried to read your vent thread, but couldn't find it. I was wondering what happend with your best friend. Thanks for sharing though. It makes me feel so much better that I'm not the only person who feels these things.

Hi butterfly -- how things going with you? hope you had a good weekend.

Good Morrning

Flowerchild I'm wishing you all the best for your scan today.

BW Isn't it amazing how these fertility companies price vary so much between one and other. I've got some prices here from SIVF and Hunter IVF.
I hope your appointment goes well this week for you.

Willow Has AF arrived yet? If so I hope she's being as nice as possible to you.

Hello to everyone else. I'll pop in again later and do more personals. Hope you all had a good weekend.

Not much is happening with me atm. Took last clomid tablet yesterday. Had a great time at Robbie Williams last night.

Emmydee, I posted in the LT TTC & AC Vent forum. You have to ask the mods for access to this thread. Basically, my best friend is prg with her second set of twins in 3 years (both IVF prgs) and is just really painful to deal with most of the time. Seems she has forgotten very quickly how hard this can be.

Thanks for asking girls, but no, af is still playing mind games!! Grrrrr. I don't know what is going on. Either the clomid has lengthened my LP for the first time (bit late now!!) or this is going to be a weird period because of my surgery.

I've had spotting on and off for 3 days though so I am definately not prg, before any of you go getting excited!! LOL.

I am expecting her to turn up in force today at some stage. I have had cycles this long before but it is unusual for me these days. Still I'm only on cd29 so not that unusual.

Morning ladies.

Flowerchild- Good luck today with your scan. Let us know how you get on.

Willow- I guess it is a good thing that AF still hasn't shown up that way you timing might work out perfectly to start with IVF in the new year.

Mako- Glad to hear that you have finished another round of Clomid. Now we start imagining nice big follies for you :fertilise:

Emmydee- Very proud of you. It is really hard sometimes to come to terms with these things and move on but it is a credit to yourself that you have. I have recently been faced with this myself when a friend of mine who had been trying for like 5 minutes got PG but I guess everything happens for a reason and perhaps someone is trying to make us stronger woman and my Mum always says to me that when I get my baby it will be so special because we tried so hard to get there in the first place and I am sure you would feel the same.

BW- I bet you are getting excited about your first appointment. Maybe like Willow has said go to this FS and see what he is like you might find that you have a completly different opinion than what your friend does. Good luck.

Well I am on my third day of injections now and feeling great. No side effects which is a bonus. Have three days left and then have a blood test on Saturday to see where we are at. Hope everyone had a great weekend. Hi to everyone that I have missed.