TTC & Taking Clomid and/or Metformin ~ October 2006

Hi Girls,

I know your trying to clear out your thread but i thought i might join in too if thats ok?

I was just hoping that i could hear some insperational news from any ladies that are Pregnant who have PCOS and were on Metformin alone to help them ovulate. I have PCOS and am on Metformin. I only started temping at the beginning of my last cycle and when i took it to my Gyno he said that it looked like i had ovulated and that it was a good sign however DH and i have been trying since June and still nothing. I know it hasnt been that long and even health couples can take a while but i would love to hear from other ladies who have been through it too.

Thanks BW good to know I am welcome. I guess it is a good thing that this thread is getting a bit empty must be a sign. Hopefully we will both get out BFP really soon. Good luck when you start taking clomid. I bet you must be excited about starting it. Lets hope you only have to take one months worth and you won't need any more.

PS Wish I was on holidays!!!

Hi Walking art good to have another newby to this thread with me. Hope you get your BFP really soon too.

Welcome, WalkingArt.

I've been on metformin alone since March. Unfortunately it's done bugger all for me, but I am glad that I tried it by itself. I've heard many, many stories of metformin alone being the trick and I sincerely hope this is the case for you.

It's nice to have lots of lovely new people coming in - I was starting to miss my old friends, but it's nice to have new people coming in to share our journeys.

Although, I'm sure Danni will come in and lecture us all, new or not, on how we have to be out by christmas! :p

BW

out by xmas? This thread will WELL AND TRULY be closed down before xmas. :D

Michelle,
You said that so very well. I am having a little cry. What was so wonderful about the little corner that grew was that we were all dealing with clomid after the devastation of losing our babies. I have felt heavy all day that it has been taken from us.
Thankyou for the welcome to the other thread Danni and Hayseed - again, I just don't *fit* in there...
Michelle, I know how much the support is necessary, especially when you are in limbo at the moment. Goodness here I am 11 weeks and I found the support of my women friends in our thread my rock. LIke you said Michelle, no matter how beautiful and welcoming women on the other threads are, sometimes they have been there a long time and they share a lot of history, it was nice to be one of the same...
I cannot express my immense disappointment in the cavalier way it was taken from us. Anyway, dwelling isn't going to make it any better.
Just know Michelle, BW, Debbie, Willow, Chelle and Kirsty too that I have loved every minute of our chats together and I wouldn't be where I am without you all.
MIchelle, I will keep checking in here to hear your news and I am praying so very hard that the Universe has a positive in store for you.... :hugs:

Aww Deb - I miss our little section too. I just don't think anyone could see the special need we had at the time it was started. Maybe the mods will read this and understand we were a unique bunch that found support together due to our very unique circumstances. I don't want to force my AC journey on the girls in TTCAML, many of whom do not have difficulty getting pregnant, just staying pregnant (which is where my connection is). On the other hand I don't want to rub my ability to conceive in the face of those who are having difficulty doing so (even if I am currently in the same boat) because I KNOW I can get pregnant ... just not when I want to :rolleyes:

Anyhoo ... I POAS again, and there is still a line (different brand) and it still has colour but it is still feint. So ........ I showed DH :D No point in me grinning like an idiot with blossoming hope that this could be it without including him on the rollercoaster journey. So he is cautious and said "It's feint" and I said "But can YOU see the line" and he said "Yes, you're not imagining it"

Woooo Hoooo!!! Someone else can see the line :D But I am still cautiously praying like a mad woman that this is it and there is a sticky little bubba in there who will grow and blossom and arrive screaming and healthy in another 9 months.

HE CAN SEE IT!!!!!! Bless his cotton socks!!!!!
You keep praying like a mad woman and I know Debbie and Willow and Chelle and Butterfly and Kirsty will all be doing the same. I have to leave early in the morning - I have to go to the Uni (she sighs....) I have been reading through the Masters of Midwifery course to be submitted (I am on the panel) - of course it's interesting I am just so so tired and not focused on working stuff at the moment. I am taking my neighbour and the kids (thus the neighbour!) and afterward we will go to the movies to see "The Wild"... The kidlets are excited! So, I am leaving the house at 8.30 - I will pop in before then to see if you have posted in this corner...
Lots and lots of love and hugs to you my friend.... :hug:

Girls, I feel the same way. Thank you to Hayseed and Danni for welcoming us into the other threads, and I have no doubt I will post in there from time to time but us girls have formed a bond over the last few months and it just won't be the same - no offence, we know how lovely and supportive all BB girls are.

I'm at work right now but when I get home I might post a message to the mods telling them how we feel about what's happened and what our thread meant to us. It can't hurt I guess...

Michelle, I am keeping updated throughout the day (haha! it's like a MAJOR event in my life!!) and keeping my fingers crossed that the line will just get darker and darker in the next few days!! I'm so glad you told your DH, at least he can hold your hand IRL!!

Hi everyone,
Hope you don't mind,but I would love to join this thread. I have been taking Clomid since May and have ovulated each month but no little miracles as yet.I had to miss taking Clomid last month due to an ovulation cyst (6.5cm) which had to be drained(sorry tmi) so am hoping for af to visit in a week or so or with any luck she doesn't and I end up with a BFP. Anyway I'll have to wait and see what happens. My gyn/obs said we only have until Dec/Jan before we go for ivf. Really don't want to go down that road.

As one of those women who is on clomid purely for AC, and never having technically lost a child (although having a false positive and believing I was pregnant for a day and a half was truly devestating, I can't imagine what it must be like for the rest of you... I am constantly amazed by your strength), I just want to say please don't avoid us because you know you can conceive. Yes, AC is damned hard (and I haven't even really got started yet!), but it helps us so much to hear positive stories of how helpful these drugs we have to take can be.

It's great to know that not only can this clomid stuff fix up my inability to ovulate consistently, but it can also fix my cracker of a LPD when I do. Please don't hide your wonderful stories of hope from us.

I really can understand why you are feeling the loss of your quiet little corner... It was a sheer joy to me to be able to watch you support each other, even though at times I did feel like a bit of an intruder. Not through any actions of yours, just because I couldn't truly share your experience of loss.

BW

Me too Willow - just need to buy some more HPT's so I can monitor over the next few days and then become a true POAS addict :D DH is doing the typical boy thing and showing amazing restraint while I am sitting here with a smile on my face and the HPT sitting next to me so I can check that the line really does exist!!!

BBL!!

ETA - BW - you are never an intruder and we love having you around. But it is for that reason exactly that it is hard to move into an established group (even when the women are lovely). But please stay around. Your support is immensely valuable to me. :)

Welcome Mako! It's always nice to have new friends join us! :)

I hope you get your little miracle well and truly before December.

BW

Thanks, Michelle.

SQUEEEEEEEEE! you can't believe how excited I feel about your news of that magic second line! :)

But I bet it's only a fraction of what you feel just now!

BW

Butterfly - we are not hiding our stories as such - please don't think that. It is sometimes hard to know where you *fit*. You never seemed like an intruder to me - one of us with a different story. One of us who was/is a very wanted and valuable member!

I even find it hard sometimes in Pregnany After Loss - the girls all know each other really well and many (certainly not all) can heave a sigh of relief after 12 weeks and it is really hard for me sometimes to express my fears and concerns as I know this can make others fearful. Does that make any sense? I can imagine it must feel quite horrible to feel *safely* past the danger first trimester and have someone like me expressing fears about weather my baby is still alive or not at 14, 15, 16 weeks as my experience has been that they die without my knowing (I don't miscarry as such...) I hope you understand... For me I don't fit in to any of the *suggested* forums as I am pregnant!
Don't get me wrong I get a lot out of PAML I truly do, it's just a little different in here and a little less exposed...

Glad to see you've stocked up on sticks Michelle - that's my girl!!!

Thanks, Deb. I'm getting all weepy again!

Can I blame the provera and my hormonal mood swings?

You are all such wonderful and lovely ladies. :grouphug:

Deb, I can very much understand the feeling of not belonging... I started on the metformin very early in our TTC journey, and initially did feel very out of place in the clomid/metformin thread. Even moving out of the 1-6 months thread into the 6+ months thread felt a little odd, as at that point I still had never actually ovulated in any convincing way.

I guess it just goes to show that we are all unique, and it's never easy to make unique individuals fit into a box.

BW

Thanks for the welcom BW. Just out of curiosity how many mg of Metformin are you on per day. I am on 1500mg and have found that it helps AF come regularly (35 day cycle). I just noticed that you are on CD74! Well i hope it kicks in for us soon.

Dani, i hope you are right and we are all preggas by Christmas. Would be a nice Christmas pressie thats for sure (knowing that you have your own lil angel on its way)!

I'm only on 1000mg... I've asked my doctor if I should increase it, but he said no.

But then, this is the same doctor who handed me my prescription for clomid (8 weeks ago!), two blood test forms and sent me on my way... and the only words he had for us when DH's SA came back bad was that it might just take us a little longer! :angry: I had to get the provera to end this stupid cycle from a friend (a wonderful, beautiful friend who also happens to be a gyn/obs registrar in Newcastle)... and I'll be very shortly getting myself a new fertility specialist!

BW

Your bubs are all on juniors xmas list for THIS Year! :D

Hurray for JUNIOR! Lets hope Santa reads his list! LOL

BW - i would definately be getting a second opinion. You never know, you current doctor may be right but at least you have peace of mind. My gyno/obs is at Royal Hospital For Women at Randwick and he is great. As soon as i walked in the door he was 100% helpful and got my body back on track, or at least i think it is! When i was diagnosed with PCOS i was put on just 500mg a day by my GP, but when i went to my gyn/obs he told me that 500mg does nothing and to triple my dose straight away.

hi guys!!

welcome to all the newies!! yay!! some new peeps to chat too!!

BW- thankyou for thinking of me :) im 16dpo i think but i have no idea if i o'ed or not- the gyno said that i had 19mm follicle and that it all looks good but who knows :confused:
my cylces are 34-46 but they last 2 have been weird- for all you newies i'm al clomid (1st month) and on met since feb for PCOS. Ihad a levovist alst month and my tubes are clear etc- this caused me to blled though so i had to wait until AF started naturally to start clomid.

i'm not testing cause i would rather see AF thana BFN. I dont think i am though- cause i alwaysthough that i would just know if i was preggie.

Dan- LOL


i just wanna be in Bellie buddies!! :crying:

love

Hi guys,

I just was hoping to shed some light on why the thread was closed.

Basically it boils down to this: there is no possible way for this forum to have a thread to cover every circumstance, and as moderators, we have to make decisions on whether the conversations in a thread can be conducted somewhere pre-existing. While I can't imagine the difficulties of your situation, I have, in my time, had my share of issues and have felt the isolation this can cause. Closing the thread was not a personal thing against any one of you, but more a case of wanting to bring together a community where you can provide support to one another even if you've not experienced everything some other person has. As some have mentioned, some of the existing threads are barely being utilised at the moment.

Also, while it's natural to bond with some people, it would be nigh impossible to cater to every group of members who wanted their 'own' place to talk. The moderators already spend a lot of their time reading threads, managing the site and trying to keep things running smoothly, and it's a fine balance to try to make as many members happy as possible without things getting out of control. We are all mums with kids and things that require our time outside of BB, and I think it's only fair that everyone recognise that every decision is made with the view to keeping this fine balance.

However, if you strongly feel there may be a place for a specialised thread to cover your circumstance, please put this to the mods first for discussion. Not everyone is going to get what they request for, and that's just the nature of forums this size. If they did, I'd want a 'TTC #5 Long Term Assisted Conception while Breastfeeding' thread! But I suspect no one would join me in it!

Did they do a day 21 blood test, princess?

I would think at 16DPO you should definitely test! It sounds like you had a nice big follie... so ovulation was bound to happen at some point. Do you chart at all? That should show when.

I can understand your reluctance, but it's starting to sound awfully exciting! test! test! test!

BW

bw - I would be changing FS too, if I was you. I use to have 90 day cycles too. In fact once I had bleeding nearly every single day for nearly 6mths. 3 times in the last 5 years I have had surgery: D&C and hysterscopy to bring things back to a "normal" 36 day cyle. I have also had 3 different FS before I found the one I felt comfortable with, and who explained things to me, and that I could talk to without being treated like an imbecile. Good luck with finding a new FS and I'm sure the provera will do it's job for you very soon.

Hi to all the new girls - wishing you lots of luck!

Princess - I have all my fingers and toes crossed for you *hugs*

Belinda, what area of Sydney are you in, and who is your specialist?

BW

I was seeing Dr Hilary Joyce at Bowral as we use to live at Picton til 3mths ago. I know she also has a clinic at Liverpool and Macquarie St, Sydney. Probably way out of your way.

Yeah, just a tad... still looking around... I've had a few recommendations, but it's such a personal thing that it's difficult to know whether the specialist that suits one couple will suit us as well.

BW

Girls, firstly I'm glad to have found you all. Felt for a moment as if I'd fallen off the planet. What would I do with out you all. Don't want to sound like a sad case but I have no family (apart from DH and kiddies) in Australia (been here 17 years). And although we have lived in Melbourne for 11 years (moved here from WA) I haven't got what I would call any close friends. The closest would be a couple of girls from my old mothers group and I haven't seen either of them since I lost Luke. (Long story short - they were also friends of the lady I didn't like who was pregnant at the same time as me but got to keep her baby). We kind of lost contact and grew apart I suppose.
There you go, I really am a sad case after all!!!! But don't worry, I do "do lunch"! with other aquaintances.

Anyway, without out you lot life would be so dull. Can let each other know how we feel, what makes us mad and what makes us sad. You are all truely special and each one of you adds something quite unique and truely bright to this forum. Just glad I managed to track you down again!!! Computer brain dead sometimes I think.

Talking of brain dead - what does "AC" mean?????

Big hugs to Deb, Michelle, Willow, BW, Lilylou (where are you?) and everybody else I may have forgotten to mention.

Keep smiling ladies!
Debbie

AC is assisted conception, Debbie.

BW

Assisted Conception Debbie.

Sushee - thank you for explaining. When the thread first started it was related specifically to the topic title. It just developed from there that some of us are a little *weirder* than others and we found a unique corner of support. We really weren't trying to create a new thread, we just happened to find others in a similar situation of loss and trying to get pregnant with drugs. :)

Still have cramping. Still hopeful. And I have more HPT's to check with :D

Still praying really hard that this is it for you, Michelle. :pray:

BW

BW- that's the thing- he just gave me and internal ultrasound and said BD every 2nd day till AF, no test nothing. I got a major pain for about 20seconds at 16dpo so i'm hoping that's when the eggie popped out.
i just can;t get excited...... so many times i've been hoping and BFN. i used to chart prev but am only doing CM now.

i feel nothing no cramps etc

Princess, how many days until your CM stopped appearing fertile?

Don't you just love fertility specialists that seem so... I can't think of the right word! But mine's just doing day 21 blood tests and that's it! I'm going to find someone who will do more monitoring to make sure things work!

BW

Hey girls, I finally got on! Had to have dinner with the IL's so only just got home.

Thanks Sushee for coming in to 'talk' to us, it really does mean a lot to me and I'm sure to the other girls. I do take your point, it would be a hard job maintaining all the threads and catering to every individual situation. I guess we were just really taken aback at having our thread removed because we'd grown so comfortable there and there'll be a time of adjustment I guess.

But my friends, the main thing is that we keep coming to BB and talking and supporting each other. I'm sure we won't have too much trouble finding each other - I'll probably post in TTCAML (and hopefully PAML soon enough!) occaisionally and also in the clomid/met thread. I can't say that I'll post as often though cause it just won't be the same. I feel a lot more exposed in those busy threads. I felt safe in our corner.

BW, thanks for your support babe, you were never an intruder in our eyes. It was never our intention to exclude ourselves or to shut others in a similar situation out. We just kind of found a few kindred spirits and it grew from there.

Michelle, I'm going to throw that old tired line at you - "a line's a line"!!! Thinking of you constantly and waiting anxiously to hear about that darker, more convincing line!!

Wonder how long before this thread is locked?? Make sure you all come and look for me!

BW - my cycle goes like this wCM on cd15 and WCM on cd16 HAd a huge clump of EW)and cd17 am only. CD18 went sticky adn has been alternating between cream and waterey since then. :help:.

I can't believe in one day we are already up to 25 posts :D Chatty little bunch aren't we!!! Willow - I am mainly in TTCAML with the odd surf through to clomid / met. But if you want me you can get me on my home email too. And considering you are in Sydney, I am merely a short car trip away :hug:

I'll let you know how the line progresses :)

Hey girls.

I have a question for all of you - the gyno who I'm currently seeing (and who did my lap surgery to remove my ovarian cyst) has me on 50mg this cycle and am having cd21 blood tests. I am pretty sure I didn't o till cd15 this cycle. So my question is, would you have your bloods done on cd21 or wait till 7dpo (which I've been told is when it should be done to be accurate) which in my case will be cd22??

I don't know the results of my last clomid cycle (the pathology lab stuffed up my bloods!) so I'd really like this test to be as accurate as possible so we have a good indication whether it's working for me or not.

BW, I'm also getting a second opinion. I am going to see an FS in the city (easy for me cause I work in the city 2 days a week) in 2 weeks time. Not that I'm unhappy with my gyno, just that I've heard wonderful things about this specific dr and hoping he can shed some more light on what is going on with me. Things are a bit trickier for me because I have conceived very easily in the past and was ovulating on my own before taking clomid (although it would be considered poor ovulation) but just can't seem to fall prg this time.

Awww, thanks Michelle.

I don't know about posting in TTCAML, it's so busy in there and I feel a little lost trying to keep up with everyone. The clomid/met thread is a bit quieter. Will see how I go. I'll definately lurk in TTCAML to see how you're going. I just don't feel like I fit in either.

I'm so sad our little corner has come to an end....

ETA: Debbie, glad you found us too! Make sure you keep coming in and finding us to update us on how you're going.

Oh Willow....I think I've said it before, but you and me...our symptoms are so similar! It's scary! Right down to the falling pg easily before but not now.

I'm on 100mg clomid and tomorrow is my last day in this cycle. And then it is the BD-fest. My FS is great, but I am not getting any bloods done (? dunno why, didn't know that it was the norm before I started clomid and hopped on here, so I didn't think to ask him when I was seeing him). Maybe because my charts over 5 months were showing O?? Anyway, can't help you on the day for your blood test. Sorry.

Hi to Mako, Kate and Walking Art. Good to have you with us (but hope you nick off soon....IYKWIM?!)

Thanks Sushee for explaining the reasons why. However, this still doesn't really explain why it was shut down in the middle of something really emotionally sensitive - I feel really disappointed that this forum would do that.

I don't fit in TTAML or Clomid because I am pregnant! I hear you that you can't have threads for everything but I feel strongly that our corner should keep going. We have created a lifeline for each other and have welcomed others in the same circumstance with open arms. It certainly hasn't been exclusive.

I would hope Belly Belly could see fit to "allow" our discussions to continue. I think there is a niche for women who are using drugs to conceive after loss. As MIchelle pointed out. Many of us don't fit in with clomid met as we can get pregnant.

Ithink I know how Debbie and MIchelle and Willow etc will feel about this but I can't speak for them. I urge the powers that be to consider allowing our discussions to continue.

I look forward to hearing back...

MIchelle - I am here wondering how you are this morning. Debbie - you made me weep. You are amazing and I am here with you for the rest of this journey that I know will be complete when you have a baby in your arms...

:hugs: to all...

Thanks Hayseed for the welcome. And I am sure we would all be happy to nick of my xmas and join you when you go into belly buddies. Good luck with this cycle.

BW- If only you were in Brisbane I would recomend my FS. She is wonderful. She is part of the QLD fertility group who are also great to me.

With my cycles I lways take Clomid days 2-6 and I always go to see my FS for a scan every month. She always checks if I have a good size follie (sometimes two which I love). If they are big enough I usually have an injection of Pregnyl to help release the follie. I then monitor with tepms to make sure that I ovulate and if not she sends me for bloods. The great thing with QLD fertility group is that if I have a blood test in the morning I have the results by lunch.

Princess I am keeping everything :crossfingers: that this is your month. :pray:

I am getting excited becuse I start clomid again today. Lets get this cycle going so we can get to it and make a baby!!!:bd: