When does the baby's soul enter the body?

[Possums]

Hello, I have been pondering this question lately... I am only just over 9 weeks pregnant, but the other day I saw my acupuncturist, who also does emotional/spiritual healing (and uses muscle testing to detect which areas need work).

Anyway, he said my baby's energy was nice and strong, but that he needed to treat me for anxiety/insecurity (this is my fourth pregnancy after three losses, so I am pretty nervous); and that he needed to treat the baby's emotional state too!
I was surprised at first, since things are so new I hadn't considered my tiny baby having emotions yet, until I realised that this could be an old soul who has chosen to be my child. My acupuncturist said he was sensing a feeling of disappointment from that soul, different from our idea of that emotion, more in the sense that things were so easy when in a purely spiritual state of being, and it's a bit harder going coming back into a physical form....so he cleared that emotion and then said the soul simply thrived in life. I felt pleased about that.

He said things will need finetuning in both of us as I progress through the pregnancy.

It got me thinking about many concepts along these lines (as I have when I was pregnant before).
When does a soul enter the body? Does it come and go during the pregnancy, going between a physical state and purely spiritual until it is time for the physical birth?
Is it hard for souls to adjust? How do they choose us?

My DH is happy to listen, but he is not really as open minded as I am with some things and has a bit of trouble getting his head around it.

Just really interested to hear other's thoughts.

Thanks

[nickle730]

I believe the soul enters the physical state at the time of conception. I believe it stays in that physical state for the duration of the pg and that this is a time of adjustment from the spiritual to the physical state. I also believe that the souls of my children were always destined to be just that - my children.

Just lately, I have been pondering whether our souls return always to the same family. My DD is 9 weeks old and looks nothing like my great grandmother, but every time I look at her I swear I see my GG staring back through her eyes!

Congratulations on your pg, I hope it is a happy and healthy time for you!

I'll be interested to hear what other believe.

[Tuesday's Child]

Just subbing 'cause I'm interested in what others believe too.

Glad all is going well possums. What your acupuncturist said has made me wonder if angel babies are those who couldn't get over their disappointment? So often we're told that it's something physical. But maybe those souls just weren't ready for physical life. Hmm....you've got me thinking now.

[Possums]

nickle- thanks for your views. I also think that sometimes souls keep returning to the same family group somehow...I believe my mum and I have been together in past lives, but not as mum and daughter, for example.

Tuesday's Child, that is something I have considered before also.
During a previous pregnancy, I had a psychic tell me that there was a female soul coming and going, but was very restless, like maybe it wasn't the right time for her.... I wondered after that, whether that, with my physical issues, contributed to my miscarriage. Once you start thinking outside the square, it raises plenty of questions!

marydean, just saw your response, thanks we must have posted at the same time...will read it now

[Possums]

marydean, thanks for your thoughts, I find it really interesting, especially the aura and connection between a child and mother, even in the early years. Also, that you could sense when your baby's guides came in.

I wonder, since we went through IVF, and therefore the moment of fertilisation was in a lab, whether or not in our case, a soul waits until the embryo is transferred to the body.

[AnyDream]

Energetically - this is all based on my own observations as an energy reader/healer during my own pregnancies. The baby's soul starts to mesh at conception...however it is a slow process and it's the energetic structure of the mother's aura & body that allows the soul to mesh more fully over the whole period of the pregnancy (this is why we can't gestate any mammals to independent life without the incarnational vehicle of a mother's body). I noticed my babies' guides stepping in at a very definite point in the pregnancy (can't remember exactly when but I think it was the 2nd trimester) which I think means the soul had connected firmly to this lifetime's incarnation at that point. Ideally the child's aura remains connected to it's mother's for a number of years after birth, fully detaching only around 7 years old, which is why kids react so much more strongly to their mothers' emotional state than anyone else in the family. Birth itself is more of a physical adjustment than an energetic one, particularly because the mother typically continues to hold the child within the energy of her heart chakra. There are also chakras in the nipples, so breastfeeding also continues to provide energetic nourishment as well as physical (it's the hidden ingredient in breastmilk that gives breastfed babies that "glow"). The energetic attachment continues until the child is somewhere around 7 years old (although some more mature spirits detach earlier) and the detachment takes place gradually, unmeshing a layer of the aura/chakra system at a time. In some traumatic circumstances the aura is disconnected early but this results in ongoing energetic (and emotional) trauma in the child's life. I have also observed that it is possible to have a (very) early miscarriage which results from sperm meeting egg and starting to divide without a soul attempting incarnation at that point.

[Little Chicken]

Energetically - this is all based on my own observations as an energy reader/healer during my own pregnancies. The baby's soul starts to mesh at conception...however it is a slow process and it's the energetic structure of the mother's aura & body that allows the soul to mesh more fully over the whole period of the pregnancy (this is why we can't gestate any mammals to independent life without the incarnational vehicle of a mother's body). I noticed my babies' guides stepping in at a very definite point in the pregnancy (can't remember exactly when but I think it was the 2nd trimester) which I think means the soul had connected firmly to this lifetime's incarnation at that point. Ideally the child's aura remains connected to it's mother's for a number of years after birth, fully detaching only around 7 years old, which is why kids react so much more strongly to their mothers' emotional state than anyone else in the family. Birth itself is more of a physical adjustment than an energetic one, particularly because the mother typically continues to hold the child within the energy of her heart chakra. There are also chakras in the nipples, so breastfeeding also continues to provide energetic nourishment as well as physical (it's the hidden ingredient in breastmilk that gives breastfed babies that "glow"). The energetic attachment continues until the child is somewhere around 7 years old (although some more mature spirits detach earlier) and the detachment takes place gradually, unmeshing a layer of the aura/chakra system at a time. In some traumatic circumstances the aura is disconnected early but this results in ongoing energetic (and emotional) trauma in the child's life. I have also observed that it is possible to have a (very) early miscarriage which results from sperm meeting egg and starting to divide without a soul attempting incarnation at that point.

My Mum says the same thing as you MD. She also believes all little babies and children are much more 'in touch' (sorry can't think of a better word) with the spiritual world then we give them credit for. How often have you seen little babies laughing and smiling at something over your shoulder and you know no one is physically there? And that over time as the connection to their physical bodies grows stronger, they gradually lose that connection.

[Tuesday's Child]

Thanks MD. That's so interesting, particularly about the ongoing emotional connection between mother and child. Although, it makes me worry how my depression is affecting her. She seems so much more relaxed around other people.

muminalice - That's so true. DD was constantly looking over my shoulder when she was tiny. And lately she's been laughing for no apparent reason.

[rurumummy]

I take my beliefs from my religion so in Islam we believe that the soul enters the fetus 40 days after conception or around the same time the heart starts to beat.

Its really an amazing thing to ponder and it sometimes spins me out that i was once a fetus and in a different world and i dont remember a thing

[RainbowBrite]

Energetically - this is all based on my own observations as an energy reader/healer during my own pregnancies. The baby's soul starts to mesh at conception...however it is a slow process and it's the energetic structure of the mother's aura & body that allows the soul to mesh more fully over the whole period of the pregnancy (this is why we can't gestate any mammals to independent life without the incarnational vehicle of a mother's body). I noticed my babies' guides stepping in at a very definite point in the pregnancy (can't remember exactly when but I think it was the 2nd trimester) which I think means the soul had connected firmly to this lifetime's incarnation at that point. Ideally the child's aura remains connected to it's mother's for a number of years after birth, fully detaching only around 7 years old, which is why kids react so much more strongly to their mothers' emotional state than anyone else in the family. Birth itself is more of a physical adjustment than an energetic one, particularly because the mother typically continues to hold the child within the energy of her heart chakra. There are also chakras in the nipples, so breastfeeding also continues to provide energetic nourishment as well as physical (it's the hidden ingredient in breastmilk that gives breastfed babies that "glow"). The energetic attachment continues until the child is somewhere around 7 years old (although some more mature spirits detach earlier) and the detachment takes place gradually, unmeshing a layer of the aura/chakra system at a time. In some traumatic circumstances the aura is disconnected early but this results in ongoing energetic (and emotional) trauma in the child's life. I have also observed that it is possible to have a (very) early miscarriage which results from sperm meeting egg and starting to divide without a soul attempting incarnation at that point.

Would a child being born extremely premature interupt the linking of the soul to the baby or that precious link between mother and baby? Could it be considered a traumatic circumstance?

[AnyDream]

Rainbow, I suspect premature birth would delay the formation of the energetic structures of the baby in the same way that their physical development is delayed, depending on the degree of prematurity (I'm speculating here, haven't had the opportunity to observe the development of a premmie baby over a span of time). But I'm not sure it would necessarily involve trauma or interrupt the mother-child bond as such (although I'm sure both mums and bubs find the medical separation aspect distressing, that's not the same as outright trauma caused by violence for example). I remember thinking when I felt my first DD's guide come in that it was around the time that the very youngest premmies that were born were able to survive, so it seems like there might be a minimum level of soul attachment/maturity of the baby's chakras needed for survival. It may be one reason why premmie babies tend to be vulnerable healthwise even after they've reached normal birth weight etc, more reliant on their mummies for extra love and care.

[RainbowBrite]

Thank you so much Marydean for taking the time to answer.
That makes a lot of sense...both my little prems are vulnerable health wise...but strong of spirit.
My Ds (25 weeks) I believe was born with and old strong soul.