Miscarriage/Loss General Discussion #3

Hi Ashie - OMG I'm 8 weeks post D&C tomorrow and no AF here either!!! My last D&C I got them after 3 weeks, I had some brown spotting at the 5 week mark then nothing. I spoke to my cousin who's an OB/gynae and she said it's not uncommon to take this long. I have my first appointment at my new fert clinic Thursday, it would be typical that AF will show up tomorrow or tonight and I'd have to wait until next cycle to do anything as you have to start any treatment on Day 1/2 of your cycle. Guess Thursday will be the day to find out if we are looking at giving IVF a go or trying one last time on a natural cycle with prog support, ho hum here we bloomin go again!!!!

Rach83- thankyou for understanding the emotional side, some days you feel as though your doing ok other days it's like the universe wants to add more salt to the wounds which has been happening alot.

Alison I hope everything goes well Thursday must be such a rollercoaster ride. Big boo to our cycles! Hopefully it won't be much longer for it to sort themselves out, usually I'm wishing for no af now I am wishing for af.

Hi Girls - I had my appointment at the new fertility clinic today. First of all OMG what a mission - 45 minute drive to get there (in non peak hour traffic) and their tracking cycles are $275 (that's per month), non rebatable through Medicare or private health - my old clinic were $150 but otherwise the specialist was really nice and very thorough, asked lots of questions, answered lots of questions, explained things that the other mob never bothered, including DH's sperm test and what it meant as when I asked for a copy of the results I noticed his sample was considered abnormal yet they never said a thing! It's nothing detrimental but still they should've explained what it meant. He and the nurse we saw afterwards were so much more on the ball I am starting to wonder about the other place!!! For starters he explained about the progesterone suppositories and how they work as I told him it always fluctuated during my pregnancy cycles and he said the progesterone supplements only stay in the uterus and are not absorbed into the blood, so what you see in the blood tests only reflect my own levels so he thinks 3 a day is definitely sufficient to sustain a pregnancy. Secondly, he was very taken aback when I told him I was on the Clexane and while he obviously couldn't say anything as it would be bagging out another specialist the look on his face said it all and in less words said he would never put me on that as my previous blood results clearly show I have no need for it and that it well could have contributed/caused my subchorionic clot. He also said it is highly possible it was the cause of my last miscarriage. I had a feeling that was the case, so my last baby may well have been fine if I wasn't on that rubbish. So, treatment wise, he wants to do a tracking cycle for himself as well as DH and I do some extra blood tests they haven't done on me, including redoing my AMH test again as it's been 8 months since the last one, very scared to get that result. The nurse today told me they don't know enough about those tests as they're so new so try not to stress too much about them, just as well as they also told me my count doesn't get much lower!! Which brings me to the next point - due to my low egg count - which is very low for someone my age he said I am probably not a good candidate for IVF as the drugs they give you to produce more eggs might mean that I only produce 2 or 3 at most and none could fertilize/take and it's a lot of money not to mention very emotional and physical ordeal to go through for the chance of fertilizing 1 egg at best. He said it will be a last resort. Very deflated after that as I thought that was my best chance :o( So, we are doing another tracking cycle starting tomorrow - but only so he can see for himself whats going on, not allowed to try to get pregnant though, have to wait for next cycle and once he gets all the details from the new bloods, DH's sample and my scan etc after this cycle, we will make a decision as to whether we try one more time on our own or give the IVF a go with the chance it might not work. Basically, I have no other options/choice. I'm pretty freaked out as the reality of possibly never having another child is now very possible and very real. Not really sure how to feel other than ripped off. If everyone can muster up some good luck vibes for me I'd really appreciate it. Sorry to waffle on, it's been a long day, I am so tired.

How is everyone else going? xx

Hi Girls,

Hope everyone is ok. Sorry I haven't been participating much but i needed to get off BB for a while as I was torturing myself with all the pg threads and it wasn't helping at all.

Alison- sending lots of good luck vibes your way. I have my fx that it all works out for you with the new specialist.

AFM- I am feeling incredibly angry at the moment. I was coping ok but in the last few days I found out 2 girls from my bb group also had a mc and DH's cousin's son was born sleeping at 27 weeks yesterday so I'm angry at the world and all the crap we have to go through. Sorry for the vent but it is the injustice of it all. We all would love nothing more than a healthy baby and have to go through this heart ache yet there are people that do unspeakable things to children that have no issues.

Apart from that physically I am back to normal. Still bleeding though which is frustrating as I want to start TTC again straight away and I have to wait for this to stop, then wait for AF to come and stop before I can. Question though what have everyone's cycles been like after the mc? Do they go back to normal or change?

Oh Alison, that is so much to take in hun. I am also petrified of seeing my FS in the next few weeks, as I am so sure my AMH results will be very crappy now. Huge hugs hun, at least this guy is really interested in you and what you've been up to so far and he wants to help you. I am sending you all the good luck and positive vibes I can muster hun xoxoxoxoxoxox

Em, hugs hugs darling :hug: I really hate the world sometimes. When I was pg last time in Jan and found out my baby stopped growing, 4 other ladies had m/c in my belly group. Every time one of the ladies had a m/c, it just broke my heart all over again. It sucks big time. I'm so sorry to hear about your cousin'd baby boy, it's just so sad and tragic. Big hugs hunni xoxox

Hi everyone! Just wanted to send all of you some hugs. After reading the last few threads I think you definitely need some!

Alison, what clinic do you go to? I'm at FS of WA. I hope this FS will be right on top of it and will get you pregnant and for the full amount of time in no time!

AFM It's been 6 weeks now since my D&C and AF showed up again yesterday. What a shock after not having had my period since March. I had forgotten how painful and annoying she is... I hope she won't be visiting for long ;). I've been having acupuncture to help me back on track and know that my HSG was back to baseline at the end of June. I suppose AF would take longer to come back for whoever's HSG was really high and also my acupuncturist told me it would have gone down quicker for me as part of it goes down quicker thanks to D&C, don't know how that works exactly. Anyhow, I was feeling pretty good, till AF showed up. I actually thought I might be pregnant, ha, wishful thinking. At least hopefully another chance this month?! We'll see...

Hi me4ever - oh wow that's where I'm going now lol. I'm seeing prof hart how about you? As for me I had my first blood test today for tracking and had my amh tested again, nervous on that one as it was 1.1 8 months ago :o. Anyway I thought AF had arrived yesterday all be it light as it is red and not brown like my usual per AF spotting, only to be told by the nurse this arvo that going off my bloods I'm about day 10 and a few days off ovulating! What is going on! I'm so frustrated with my body grrr. She said your hormones can do strange things after a miscarriage....no, you dont say, 8 weeks and no AF yet! Anyway the bit that irritates me most is that I now have to wait until it really arrives before they can do their exploratory tracking cycle which means prob end August early sept before we can do anything :shakehead: so so disappointed. I just cant win lately! So have you had your Amh tested before? What are you looking at doing?

Hi Miss B - thanks for Your wishes and support, I need all I can get as do we all! How are you doing? What's your next plan of attack? Xx

Hi Em - so sorry you are feeling down, big hugs to you. I'm sorry for your DH's cousin too, gosh that's unfathomable to imagine :cry:

Hey Alison - I'm seeing dr Yeap, she's really nice. I had my amh tested but it's quite high, so not an issue for us. I have unexplained infertility and had moderate endometriosis, which was removed via laparoscopy last year. We had our first IVF in April and fell pregnant straight away. Now we're just going to try naturally till after our month away in September and if we're not pregnant by October, we'll have our first FET (frozen embryo transfer).
Apparently according to my acupuncturist, after having had a miscarriage, after the HSG has gone down to baseline, your body will start a cycle and you'll ovulate before you get AF. So maybe your HSG took ages before it disappeared and then hopefully you'll get your period as per normal after ovulation?! I had some light spotting (red as you said) about a week or 10 days ago...

Alison- how frustrating! I can really relate day 59 and still no af! Monday I will book an appt with a dr for dh's week off so I can get sorted out I think it will be 9 weeks since mc when I see the dr so hopefully he'll sort something out.

Afm- sorry for the lack of personals such a rough week for me. Yep day 59 still nil on af but still cramping like af will arrive and now feeling sick like I'll throw up! So annoyed! Dh keeps asking if I'm pregnant I doubt it I told him I'll test again later to recheck but now it's time to boo with the dr he has an u/s machine so I'll get him to have a peek and also run bloods before I take any medication to sort out where af is. I haven't felt nauseous for weeks so it's some new symptom.
Going to be busy the next couple of weeks finishing our house and totally re landscaping the backyard new lawn etc. should have the house on the market and sell up and build again hopefully still in the same area as I have to enroll ds1 into school and don't want him to be changing schools once making friends.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend xxx

Hi Girls how are we all?

Hi Ashie - have you been to the docs yet or got AF? I'm day 65 and still nothing!!! So going off what the clinic told me last week I should be Day 17 of my cycle today and they told me on Day 10 I was only 3/4 days away from ovulating, yet I am only just today getting the ovulation signs, EWCM and pain and OMG the pain is so intense, like buckled over intense so not sure if that's just because it's been a while or something?! So I guess it means I'm still a good week or so away from AF, unless of course I have already ovulated and this is just some weird AF pain, who knows - this is just SOOOOOOO frustrating. I'm pretty much over it all now and just want to feel normal again boo hoo.

How's everyone else going?

Alison - still no AF for you... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you that it will come soon. I remember that I was very very bloated and had a sore abdomen a few days before AF showed up.

Hope everyone else is well!

Thanks me4ever - I'm expecting a doozy of an AF given it's been almost 10 weeks since I've had proper bleeding. Urgh.

Alison and Ashie, just popping in to give you AF vibes - 46days later I got mine today. Actually cried in the ladies room cause soo relieved it came by itself. I have the check up post d&c tomorrow and was really worried about being told to take something to bring on AF (other than a natural option) or there were more 'issues'
Ah relief, here's hoping for you ladies.

Yay MLR1901 - I'm so happy for you, I hope Ashie and I can follow suit. Who'd have ever thought we'd be happy to see AF huh! I am like you starting to think there's something else wrong with me and having this low egg count has me freaked out I've run out lol! (even though they told me it doesn't just happen)!

Hi girls thought I'd pop in say af arrived on day 60! Yay lol!
But at the moment gastro abd flu running wild here so have my hands full (dh took a week off work redo the backyard but it's going to be hard with ill kids)

Alison I have everything crossed your af won't be far behind. Mine has been horrible! Bleeding was heavy and just so bright and cramping the first couple of days I couldn't do much, still spotting now been a week but know it will last for a while longer it has it's own plans.


Hope you are all going well xxx

Hi Girls glad to read your AF's are returning hopefully it won't be too much longer for you Ali

I seem to have the opposite problem can anyone try and help me make sense of what is going on with my cycles?

20th of June- started spotting at 6+3 it never stopped
7th of July- natural mc at 8+6
26th of July- finally stopped bleeding
3rd of August- started bleeding again

So is this new bleed AF? I'm totally confused as the mc bleed only stopped a week ago but is it because my mc bleed lasted for so long that it is back already?

Hi Em - it's probably just your hormones still leveling out and because you bled for so long it's a new cycle? I bled for almost 10 days with a D&C, but I am 10 weeks down the track and still yet to get AF - I've only had the 2 bouts of spotting but the clinic told me with a D&C they completely clean out your uterus so it can take a while for your body to build up enough lining for a period. I'd say this bleeding now is AF again, it's roughly a month in between starting your mc bleeding and this bleeding so perhaps you ovulated as usual but still had some leftover bleeding? At least you know your cycles are trying to regulate, I'd like to know what happened to mine!!