Thanks Cherished. I've heard good things about P&T's but haven't looked at them before as i prefer the 4 wheeled prams. My DD will be 27 months when this bubs arrives so will still need the pram for a bit longer. I'm thinking too looking at the wheel set up the maybe the P&T's will be a better all rounder pram. Far out, i thought i was all set & wouldn't need to worry about a pram this time around!!!!!!