How many weeks before a BFP

How did you go sweetie, waiting to hear from you!!
:crossfingers: for you

check out my thread in ttcamcal for updated info

lol - i forgot about copy and paste: this is what i posted in the ttcamcal forum

Hey girls,

just an update, i finally got in to see a Dr, i went to a different one then my normal Dr.
I had to explain to him about my history and what has been going on etc, he litterally drilled me for answers and why this and why that, and why i had waited so long before seeing a Dr! OMG
So he did a external exam, and then a half a pap smear (just without swabs) then he did an internal exam (by this point im really uncomfortable), but i knew he was doing what he thought was best.
I also did the Dr's hpt, came back -ive.
He said after the exams that we are to assume im not pg, but he wants me to go for a bt and a pelvic and vaginal ultrasound. As he thinks its quite possible that i may still have some of jan m/c stuck in there and that i need to be thoroughly checked out and make sure. im not allowed to get my bt results til tomorrow, but i had to make my own app for the ultrasound, to find out i cant get in til thursday.
I rang the Dr back to let him know this and the receptionist said that would be fine as Dr wouldnt have expected the u/s results back tomorrow? WTF??? he said to me to book an app with him tomorrow, which i did, but i couldnt get my bt results back til then either as he wanted to read both results together and for me to assume the bt will come back -ive.
Im sooooo scared, confused, very emotional and angry at the same time
WTF is going on???
He wrote on the u/s piece of paper that my cervix is closed? is this a good sign? he also wrote there was no tenderness when he was pushing and prodding, but HELLOOOOOOO there was and i told him, i was just wound up about having some strange Dr's fingers up me that i didnt comment at all through that exam!
I guess im just a no hopper, im never going to be pg, im going to have problems like this all the time, and its never going to happen to ME......

oh and the other thing he said to was that, i probably didnt have a m/c in 2003, as i had the implanon, he said its impossible to be pg on it! I told him that my dr said it is possible but not common and that the implanon was the reason i had the m/c, he said i dont think so bla bla bla, so now im doubting whether or not i had a m/c back in 2003, and he wrote down on his notes that it was a maybe m/c in Jan this year! like WTF?? wouldnt i know whether i had a m/c or not? Yes i didnt have bt in jan (i told him i did though to get him off my chest), but i did hpt's which i watched the 2nd line get fainter and fainter til it disapeard, i had my other Dr do an external exam, although i did ask for a ultra sound, she said as the bleeding has stopped, and i had no more cramping etc there was no need!
So basically this Dr is saying, i never was pg, im not pg, and by the looks of things i might not ever be pg!

I know i get the bt results tomorrow, but my heart is saying be positive and my head is saying be reasonable! So i dont know if i'll be upset by the bt results coming back -ive or not, I havent told Rick, thought i would wait until i knew the results of the bt before telling him, and say im not pg but they want me to go in for an ultrasound, as they want to check me out etc. That way i dont have to worry him about maybe pg maybe not pg, and then the ultrasound, atleast this way he'll know yes or no, and the ultrasound is just a precaution iykwim? I need his support for thursday, i know emotionally i wont cope. I get myself worked up too easily he helps me keep my feet on the ground.

So sorry pumpkin, hope it all goes to plan for you sending you lots of :bluedust:

Thankyou, will keep you updated with what goes on with the results
thankyou again

Naomi, I'm so sorry you're going through all this confusion and conflicting advice. :hug: I hope the blood test comes back with the result you want :pray:

BT results

He said my bt showed levels of hcg (refused to tell me what they were) but said they wernt high enough to say im pg. He said it was a possibility (couldnt guarrentee anything til he had the us reults) that i still have something inside me. I told him about last months fake + and that i had my hcg levels checked etc and it was 0, he quickly changed his tune and kept smilling, but still refused to talk to me more until he had the u/s results, which he couldnt move closer. I have another app with him on Monday!
But thats all i got out of him really, basically a complete waste of time! and $10!!!!


Thankyou Disgirl

mmm no doctor can refuse to tell you what your results are. That is quite scandalous! Is your u/s this week? If you have had a quantatative hcg done that was 0 and this latest test shows a level you need to ask some questions. It is great that you are having an u/s. That will tell you if there is anything in your uterus. Have you had any temps? Any pain? Any abnormal/smelly/coloured vaginal loss??? If no it is unlikely that there are "retained products of conception".
I am sorry you are going through all of this. Please keep us posted.
Big hugs at this time.

Thanks Deb
I never actually said so tell me what they are, i kinda just went along with it, but every time i brought the subject up he changed it!
Have you had any temps? Any pain? Any abnormal/smelly/coloured vaginal loss??? no not out of the ordinary temps or pains, no discharge out of the ordinary either. THankyou for that, its kinda a relief.

So Deb would you know why my levels are up if im not pg?

ETA: yes u/s is this thursday

Naomi most labs will say a level of 5 or under is negative between 5-15 is iffish and inconclusive - they may be low because you are *just* pregnant or they may be low because there was a conception and implantation but things weren't right and the very early pregnancy ended - this is sometimes termed a 'chemical pregnancy' this is believed to happen frequently in a woman's fertile life - only in recent years with the invention of early detection tests was it shown. In the past it would have been a late period. I am not for a minute suggestion this is what has happened - in fact with it being a couple of weeks since you last bled I would think it highly unlikely that you had raised levels due to a chemical pregnancy a few weeks ago. I think it is more likely that your level is 5 or less. You definitely need to know the value of the hcg that was found in your blood work when you see the doctor next. I will be interested to hear what you ultrasound results reveal. I really think that they will be clear. Fingers crossed for you and big hugs.
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Thankyou for that Deb, so my levels would be some where between 0 and 15! i know you dont mean that ive had a chemical pg, but i really do appreciate knowing its a possibility.
Thankyou i will find out my levels and the u/s results are the only way im going to get answers

Deb you were right my levels are under 5 they are apparently less than 2!
so guessing im slim to none about being pg!
oh well at least i know though right?

Yes, that is a definite negative. At lease now you know what's going on. Goood luck for this next cycle.

Hi Naomi,

Sorry for your news :hug: . Are you still going to have the ultrasound tomorrow?

Yes i am, need to make sure nothing is wrong

Good girl :o)

Good luck for tomorrow, hopefully the ultrasound might shed some light on whats happening for you.

Sorry Naomi :hug:

Keep us posted!!!

Love Roslyn

Ok well lady wouldnt tell me much, she was really really really nice. She wouldnt show me the screen, nor would she tell me what she saw, she complimented me on my ovaries, saying they are really nice big ovaaries and a good lying uterus?? ok!
Rick was at the end and saw the scan and the tv, said he could see my ovaries and one looked real clear and the other had another round circle thing near it!!!
But other than that, nothing! I have to wait til monday, although i do not mind at all.
After starting the scan the lady got confused as to why i was in there, going why does your Dr want this done? and you got a + on a hpt and you have hcg levels? even if its just? but then said everything looked good, she stuck to one side with the outside scan i think she went over once to the other side but stayed on my left hand side and the middle. (which is where rick saw the circle thing). So who knows
Oi and whats up with the Dildo Cam------ its HUGE, and she's like dont worry most of that is the handle, im like hhhmmm sure LMAO

I hope you find out whats going on next Monday Naomi! I can't wait to hear how it goes.

Naomi, It sounds like today went well. I look forward to hearing on Monday how things are. I really am sure it will be fine - it's good to know your ovaries are lookin good!

You have been through a lot - a real rollercoaster this past few months.
I hope that this is the start of good things!

Take care and hugs,

Well Im definatley not pg.
Dr has said to put a hold on ttc for atleast 1 month, just so my body can be normal for one month iykwim, this is what the letter from the Ultrasound said

There is a history of possible recent miscarriage.

Transabdominal and Transvaginal scanning was performed. The uterus is normal in size and midline in position. There is a very small amount of free fluid within the endometrium in the lower uterine segmant on transvaginal views. The endometrium in the fundus and body of the uterus appears normal. There is no eveidence of gestation sac. No other abnormalities are apparent. Both ovaries were demonstrated and were normal with mutliple follicles present on both sides there were no abnormal adnexal masses and there was no free fluid in the pelvis.

What does free fluid mean?

I have never seen a scan of my ovaries etc before, it was rather interesting, and the Dr was really really sweet about everything, said im not a (cant think of word he used) person who can get pg but cant keep it (miscarry all time).
He told me next time i get a +on a hpt no matter how faint to go and get checked out asap, so we dont have to go through this everytime.

From Saturday, ive had pains in my ovaries mostly on one side, but am getting it both sides, im know af is on her way, you know when you just "know"! so i have to wait so long before ttcing again! well it seems a long time, i have to get af two more times before we can try again! once af comes this time around, im going to temp and chart etc, so then i know what goes on with my body, without the pressure of ttc, which is good for us.

Naomi - that is good news really. There is nothing evident to show that you can't fall pregnant or will have trouble. 2 months does seem like a life time but chart as you say so you can get to know your body and cycle better and it will fly I promise. By then Em will be sitting up!! It sounds as though you've finally got a Dr who is paying attention to you so fingers crossed everything goes well from here on in. Sending you lots of love!

Lea - girls seem to go for the older guys too, so prehaps waiting will be a good thing! LMAO
I only have to wait til approx 26/27th of August, so not that far away, but like you said i'll be so consumed over charting (and hopefully working) that end of August will fly past and it'll be September before you know it and I'll be announcing my BFP!
I told the Dr too, how much i appreciate what he has done, he kinda blushed too, so that is good. He laughed when i told him how the lady said i had nice big ovaries, he said well thats not something you hear everyday, must take that as a big compliment! LOL

Hi Naomi,

I'm glad to hear that everything worked out ok. Its good that you have found a doctor who is understanding - he's a keeper!

I hope that BFP in September does come your way :o)

So glad it all went well Naomi. It's a good thing that you have no free fluid. Very simply free fluid is fluid floating about that shouldn't be there. (usually).
Take this time to be really healthy and soon you will have that bfp I am sure!
Big hugs

Thanks guys, you have been great, i have posted this elsewhere as well, but thought i would post here just incase you guys hadnt seen it.
Rick and I are now on two different levels, we are no longer ttc, i dont know when or if we will ttc again, i want us to be both on the same ttc commitment level and will not pressure him into anything he isnt ready for, although doing this is putting me on an emotional rollercoaster, the girls on BB have taught me how to be strong, and i know i will survive.
I will not leave BB, just wont be currently ttcing.

I want to thank you all for all the kind words, thoughts, advice and support you have given me over my time of being here, i will treasure it always, and my plan is to stay here and pay you all back, with so much kindness and support you wont know what to do with it! LOL

Take Care

This is the first time i have put a message on here, but i have been reading some of the posts for quite some time now, and you all seem very supportive. I have been very interested in naomi s posts and just logged on to get an update from the weekend. It is good that you know whats going on with your body now, and can focuse on charting for the next month

I have been ttc since a few months before christmas and no such luck. my period is currently 7 days late, but i did a pregnancy test this morning and it was negative, i was so hoping it was positive. Well now i will have to wait for period so i can try again. though i hope the test was wrong and i am pregnant! but i am not sure of the likelyness of that. Anywayz, hopefully this posts ok.
Bye for now