Parenting After Loss or Miscarriage November 2010

Jayne - PMSL at tim tams, but im sooooo happy that you are sound so happy and you are enjoying life in China. How are the precious princesses??

Kel - enjoy Perth, you deserve a little break!

Mako - good luck at the ob sweets, hope your DH gets some answers and he can start to get better. My mum recently went through something similar and after what seemed like a million tests it turned out that her gall bladder was inflamed and she had it removed, she is better for it now.

Hope your all well, and to all the QLD lovelies, stay safe, and God be with you and your families and friends xxx

Hey Lisa - Thanks for asking. Jessica was a NIGHTMARE over the weekend - to the point I considered selling her to a Chinese family (just kidding!), but I am happy to report that she has been amazingly well behaved ever since. Does everything I ask of her the FIRST time (not always without complaint), does her homework, & overall been a real pleasure. I wish I could report the same from Claudia. Today has been an improvement (but she was at school all day too, lol), but I am SICK of the freaking tears over EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!! It's instant as well, no warm up to it, just from zero to physco in a second. I hate it. I am beginning to wonder if she has delayed Terrible 2's? This is the first time she has ever really given me grief & she is almost 4!!! How are your 2 babies? IS Miss N still sleeping like a trooper? How is Miss A? Is she still doing daycare? Am I remembering correctly? Is she off to kinder this year?

KELLY _ Have so much fun in Perth babe. You are definitely going to work out your poolside bod that's for sure. It's sweltering in Perth. When it's so hot it doesn't make me jealous that I"m stuck in winter while it's Summer in Aus though. Sometimes the heat is just too icky. KWIM? But you will have so much fun & so much help from your Mum & it'll be great. I'm sure the night time flight will be perfect as well! Luke is a good traveller already.

JANIE _ Oh well, you might as well tell DH to flick me a text on Skype - given that you NEVER do! bahahahhaa. I will be his new cyber friend. lol.

I better fly, 2 kids in bath having so much fun, it's bound to end in tears.

Love Jayne x

Mako - I read about your DH going for test etc the other day and I've been crossing my fingers that all is ok. Good luck with your ob apt too.

Kel - Enjoy Perth

Jayne - My girls sound very similar to yours. I can't motivate Sara to help me at all, Loren is going from happy to ballistic in a second over very menial things and Eva is just a little tiny pocket rocket full beans and tantrums. I am having serious bedtime issues with Eva atm. Tonight it took me 2 hours to finally get her down. She just yells outs, kicks the wall or screams. If I try and rock her she scratches and hits me but if I leave she screams so hard she makes herself sick...Did I mention I need a holiday??? Sorry for the rant lol.
Hi everyone. I am going to make a point of coming in and doing some personals very soon.

Thanks to you all for your thoughts and well wishes..DH still isn't showing any real sign of improvement but will hopefully know more in a few hours.
My appointment went ok I guess..Walked out of there feeling a little more confident to some point and frustrated to another if that makes any sense. I now have another script for clomid and metformin and am to take that along with the DHEA for 1 cycle and if that doesn't work then just back to the clomid and metformin as the DHEA works the best within the 3 month time frame apparently..My OB said I did have a lot of endo which she removed and all looked good after that so she thinks its just a matter of time before we have a baby on the way..I asked her if she REALLY felt that way or was just saying that to keep me happy and she said NO she REALLY does think its going to happen sometime soon and even put her bets on the DHEA working for us so that means if its not this cycle then its the next..We shall see hey ;) I did ask her if she thought we were wasting our time with ttc and all that goes with it (cos I feel that way at times and wanted her to tell me her honest opinion) and she said no she is confident that we will have another take home bub sometime in the future and not to give up. She also told me that if she felt we were wasting our time then she'd tell me straight out and that she has told some people that before. So I now keep on keeping on and go back in April unless we need to before.

Sorry no time for personals but I do hope everyone is ok and especially those who are in QLD. I hope all your friends and families are safe :hug:

Mako, that sounds really positive :) I can understand you being hesitant to be optimistic, but your Ob really sounds like she thinks it will happen for you (as do I :)), I just hope it's really soon!!! Okay, so now we wait for your next bit of news, I hope your DH's results show something useful :hug: Please post ASAP, we're all waiting xoxo

MAKO _ I'm really happy to hear that your OB appointment went really well today & that your OB does openly say that she can really see no reason why you can't have a take home bubba this year. It's wonderful news & hopefully it will lift your spirits about it all as well - given that a 'professional' has a positive outlook on it as well. KWIM? I completely understand your anguish about the whole TTC stuff & I really hope that everything swings in your favour. I know how much you deserve it babe. :hug: Any news about DH?

Love Jayne x

Thanks Janie and Jayne. I am feeling a bit more positive knowing that my dr is also feeling confident about our chances too.
As for dh his tests came back clear and he goes back to the gp on tuesday if he's no better and will be sent to a surgeon to see about having a camera put down his throat to check for an ulcer. I just wish he was better :(

Far out Mako - that's hardcore. What's he actually feeling? Like is he vomiting, lethargic, in pain, stomach cramps? I can't imagine feeling so dreadful for such a long time. Must be even worse for a man (sorry!!! bahahah). What makes them think of an ulcer?

Jayne If he wasn't throwing up and looking plain awful I'd say he was putting it on. I know I'm a meanie lol.
But he most certainly has something wrong and he's feeling sick constantly and throwing up but when he does this WARNING TMI its only like a bile stuff not actual food vomit itms. So he's been taking Maxalon to help stop the "vomiting" and Somac as what he's bringing up is apparently very acidic and burns and caused issues with his tongue early on. I'm not too sure what the long term issues are with taking these meds are and TBH he isn't keen on taking them at all but its the only way he can get through the day and night atm.

Oh Mako, that's awful :( I really hope they can figure it out ASAP, sounds like an gastroscopy is the way to go. Poor J, he must be feeling awful.

Far out Mako, that sounds wretched. I really feel for him. I'm vomit-phobic so I'm shuddering just thinking about it. I can't even imagine how crud he must feel. :( I really hope there are answers right around the corner for him. Also for you! :hug:

OK, well aren't I a total twat :(

Mako - I'm so sorry. I was just saying to DH last night that something was going on with you, that you weren't yourself. Now I know why. I'm so sorry I haven't been in here earlier to check up on everyone, I didn't realise your DH (just typed his name then...whoops!) was still unwell - was he unwell while we were away? I seriously didn't pick up on that but then again I'm sure he wasn't exactly advertising the fact either iykwim?

I'm glad your appt went well enough and that you have a plan. I love that you asked those questions and I'm glad you got an honest answer. Gives you a bit more hope to keep on keeping on. For what it's worth, I agree with your Ob, I firmly believe you guys will have another beautiful bub join your family soon. I just wish the road hadn't been so hard :hug:

I hope DH (just did it again!) is feeling better soon or you at least get some answers. I had a friend who had an ulcer and it made her unwell for quite a while till they worked out what it was.

I always feel like such a loser when this happens - you ALWAYS know when all my important appts are, you ALWAYS txt me on the day. I'm so sorry :(

WILLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're back! I have missed you!!! How was Christmas/New Years? Have you now moved into the new place? What's it like? How are the kids? Lol, sorry I'll stop with the questions now. Do you notice I have missed you?

Love Jayne

Oh my Jayney Jayne Jayne - I have missed you too and I'm so sorry, I totally forgot you wouldn't have seen my triumphant 'return' on fb!!! If there's one thing I HATE about China, it's no fb :protest:

Christmas/New Year was CHAOTIC. We had a great time, I survived the camping holiday with Mako and family (just! haha) and the move all went well.

New place is great, we are starting to settle in now, we had visitors pretty much every night for the first two weeks!! Mostly family but we've had a few nights on our own now which has been great for the kids. Bit overwhelming for them, the whole xmas/holidays/moving/house full of visitors thing. Trying to get them all back in routine now (they have at times been completely feral) so trying to stick close to home and not be out and about too much for the next little bit. Lots of exploring the home town and lots of swimming in the bay though :)

I am SO happy. This has been a long time in the making and sometimes when I'm down on the water with the kids I am fit to burst I'm that.freakin'.happy.

Can you send and receive txts over there on the same mobile number I have?? If so, can you txt me your email address and I'll send you some pics since you can't see them on fb...yes, I just uploaded a whole album of photos on fb for the first time EVER tonight! LOL

I also want to pick your brains about this running biznez....we've enrolled L to start preschool but it's costing us a fortune so I don't think the budget will stretch as far as a new gym membership AND the closest gym is a 35 min drive each way. So thinking of alternative plans of attack before I get too fat and unfit again! And by the way Missy...if I see that ticker drop any further I am going to haul my comparatively large a*se onto a plane just to come and forehead slap you (although if the snow is still around, that's an added bonus. NEVER.seen.it) You absolutely and seriously do NOT need to lose any more weight.

hahahaha Willow - you crack me up. I have just received the same bollocking from Michelle. You girls haven't cottoned on that I only upload pics that show my face - there is no looking at my fat backside, hips, thighs, stomach & boobs!!! Believe me, I still have a good 7kg to go. Honestly! I'm not about to fade away. With the running, I have to admit that I just can't get back into doing it. The freezing temp just doesn't motivate me right now. I have only ran 2 mornings since being back home. But I am still walking everywhere & taking the stairs - so I'm still covering the same ground - just at a different speed. lol. But anyway, with the running, I would just pick visual markers along the way & be like 'ok, lets run to this marker' & then when I reached it, I would go back to walking until I could catch my breath again & then as soon as I recovered, I would set another marker. It really worked. Especially towards the end, I got to running the majority of the way home & probably only walking 200m at my recovery walk, at the very most. You must load your ipod with motivating songs as well. Shameful I know, but I love Flo Rida's 'Low'. Don't laugh. It gets me going. Also, 'Solo' by Jason Derulo & Usher's 'OMG'. Alan calls me Mini 50 Cent. Hilarious!

Listen to you about your seachange! I'm so excited for you & so happy that you found the little slice of paradise that you have been looking for. It's rejuvinating!!

I'll PM you my e-mail address. I have a Chinese cell phone now as telstra LOVES to send me whopper iphone bills, & unfortunately I can't get MMS on my Chinese Cell. So I'll PM you!

I completely understand about losing the routine over the holidays. Sounds like a very quiet days is exactly what is needed. & yes, it's overwhelming for the kids & also you. I find I get all frazzled too!

So, so, so, so, so glad to hear from you. Missed you just a teeny bit! bahahaha

Love Jayne xxx

China SUCKS!!!!!!! I miss you on FB Jayney! I don't blame you for not wanting to run in the cold, blergh. When are back in Oz again? Do you have any family or friends coming to visit?

Love to all xoxo

I think Jayne is considering a visit to Sydney around the 15th of July ..................... :D

Yes, the lovely Michelle is quite correct. I will be in Sydney (Schidney it's pronounced in China) on the 15th of July. I come back to Aus in April for a wedding & then I'm bringing my parents back to Qingdao with us for 3 weeks & then I'm home again from June 20 for almost a month. In that time I am leaving my little munchkins for the first ever time that is longer than 1 night & I'm heading to Sydney............. eeeekk!!! I'm excited but very scared of leaving my babies. My parents on the other hand are OVER THE MOON! I have to admit, I was quite ready to come back to Qingdao after 2 weeks in Aus, so I'm a little worried I have over-extended my visit being home for an ENTIRE month. All the school people are heading back to their respective countries, so I just copied them. bahahah It's the big Summer holidays at that time........... On a very exciting note though, we are due a holiday around that time & Alan has suggested Tahiti :jawdrop: I had originally suggested Singapore, but Tahiti is JUST FINE with me!!!

So Janie in answer to your question, my parents are coming back with us early May, then I have Alan's aunt, uncle & cousin coming in August & hopefully Alan's parents in Oct. I'm pretty sure my parents will come back towards the end of the year as well. So it's rather exciting - BUT I must find a new apartment before then!!! Arrgh, the landlord wants the apartment back even though we still have 8 months left on the lease, so we are apartment hunting. Actually, being that Alan is at work, I am apartment hunting. I think this is going to be hilarious. My Chinese is appalling & their English is just as bad, so I will either end up in a tent or a penthouse. bahahahah But anyway, I have an appointment at lunch today to visit 3 apartments. Wish me luck.

Good luck, Jayne! Finding a new place to live is hard enough when everyone speaks the same language!

BW

Good luck with the apartment hunting Jayne..Hopefully you'll find something suitable very soon :)
Can't wait to catch up with you again in July too :leap:

Willow You most certainly do not have anything to be sorry for. I totally understand how busy you are settling into a a new home with 3 kids and loads of visitors at the same time. It was great that you guys managed a quick visit here on Saturday though..Sorry we couldn't catch up for longer but we will sometime soon :)
Your pics on FB look awesome and I can see how truly happy you guys are just by looking at them (and well done for uploading your 1st ever photo album lol).
When does L start pre school?

As for us..DH is back at the GP later this arv..He seems a bit better so that is a good thing. Sage is doing really well apart from being FULL of attitude..seriously I'm not too sure how much more I can take atm..Every time I ask him to do something his reply is " no too bad" or another favourite is "oh damn it"(thanks mil). If anyone has any tips on how to deal with this PLEASE let me know..I'm trying to ignore it most of the time and I have said a few times that we don't talk like that cos its not very nice :rolleyes:

Lee I've started looking at planning our trip to Tassie in October. We look like we'll be there from about the 16th or 17th until the 23rd :( I've put a sad face there as we will be away for Sage's birthday and I'm feeling very very guilty about that and he won't be coming with us. We will be in Launceston from the afternoon of the 20th I think and will be at the event at Midlands? for the 21st 22nd and 23rd. We will fly into Hobart and out of Launceston and will do a bit of traveling for a few days I think..Let me know where you are and we'll do our best to catch up somewhere :)

Hi to everyone

Just popping in to see if Mako has posted an update on her DH. Hope all is ok Mako xx

Oh Mako - I could be writing exactly the same thing about Claudia just lately!!! I think that Sage & Curly have some type of telepathic 'lets be brats' thing happening! I must admit that now she is settled back into school she has cut a lot of the attitude out but it was the hissy-fit & waterfall of tears that really grated on my nerves! At least Sage answers you when you ask him, even if it's only to say no, lol, Claudia just doesn't even answer me majority of the time. I know a lot of the time when I'm talking to Claudia I have to ask her to look into my eyes while I'm talking/asking her something because she would almost always rather be doing something else & she just zones me out. Grrrr. I find getting her to make eye-contact works a lot, & when she says horrible things I simply say 'we don't talk like that, it's not nice'. I just keep on saying it & now if Claudia hears somebody say 'shut up' or something she says to me 'we don't talk like that do we Mum?'. So I KNOW she is listening! lol

Well I looked at 2 apartments. They are so poles apart I can't even really compare the 2. One was very Chinese & the kitchen was really crapola (no oven & only wok burners to cook) but it was really big & heaps of room & the rooms were big. The other was really Western & completely renovated & all brand new appliances - but heaps smaller. But the smaller one was in the complex I have my heart set on. It has a gym, massive playground & heaps of areas to walk around (it's huge) & the kids could ride their bikes all around & because it's all secure they can't get out anywhere. Hmmm, what to do. Also the smaller one was more expensive than Alan's work is willing to pay, & while we are happy to pay the difference, I'm not sure I like it that much to put our own money towards it - KWIM? But this one had FANTASTIC kitchen! One where you do the 'wax on wax off' movement on the hot plate & it fires up! Way too cool!! I'm meant to be looking at more tomorrow, so I'll keep you updated. I'm thinking I should start a China blog? What do you guys reckon?

The winter shoes are all on sale atm.......... Oh boy, I have had to impose a self-inflicated ban on entering ANY shops atm. The shoes scream my name & beg me to try them on. They have such cool shoes here........ I have only bought one pair of ankle boots which makes me very proud of myself!

Love Jayne x

DH is ok..he still has to keep taking the Somac as it looks like its starting to help a lot. So that is good news but he will go straight back if he gets worse any time soon. He also has to go back in about a week or so once the tablets run out to be checked again. Atleast he is feeling and looking better in himself so now we'll start on the "lets look after ourselves a bit better routine" :)

Hi lovelies...

Mako - I'm in Hobart, 4km from the city, so very close and central (not that that is difficult in Hobart lol)... having just spent 3 weeks back on the mainland over christmas, I must admit it's beautiful being back here, Hobart is such a nice little city - big enough for me. I'm glad you DH is on the mend, and I know where you are coming from when you say the look after me routine.... hope it holds!

Willow - so happy for you - you sound ecstatic in your new home - all that hard work has paid off!

Jayne - I'd be a sucker for the shoes too - in fact I've recently purchased my most comfortable pair of shoes EVER, and my god the are so gorgeous too - allegria - dot - com - dot - au ... they are divine, have a rocking heel.... I would post a link of FB but you cannot see it - whhhaaahhhh! Hopefully tomorrow you will find the perfect apartment, you don't want to be too cramed up with the little girls, space is good! But a girl needs a decent kitchen! Tomorrow you will see something inbetween and it will be perfect!

Michelle - how are you doing hon, I know things are fragile right now.... hugs, and call u soon xo

Deb - any update on house sales etc??? How are YOU ???

Hi to everyone else..... me, well, not too much to report - treading water atm... not bad, but not brilliantly good, even keel is ok.... change is in the wind though, just not sure what as yet. Hugs to all.

Lee xox

Hello girls! I know it has been ages since I have posted but I promise I have still been reading!! Just have had a nightmare of a time over the last few weeks, culminating in having nowhere to stay, nowhere to rent, and then the car being broken into. Sigh... I hate relocating!! Hopefully things will start to improve soon.

Willow - I LOVE hearing you sound so happy! You seem so content and I love the pics you have posted on FB - you look very happy and relaxed. I am glad to hear that the move went well and you have settled in well. And of course you have the gorgeous Mako there to help you settle in - I am jealous!!!

Mako - I hope the Drs have some answers for your DH soon. It sounds like something pretty nasty with all the weight that he has lost, the poor thing. How are you doing?

Jayne - you are looking HOT woman!! I agree with the others - how could you possibly lose anymore weight?? Good luck with the apartment hunting. I am so over looking for rentals right now, and am having the same trouble - nothing suits so what do you settle for? I hope you find something soon.

Lee - I see that Flynn has started walking - woohoo!! Josh is still pulling himself up on things and crusing around but is so so close to taking steps on his own. What is happening with you? I hope all is ok.

Spring - how are you going hun? Haven't heard anything from you in a while.

Kel - hope you are having a good trip and hope to catch up with you soon!

Lisa - looks like you had a great time at your DH's birthday party!

Janie - how are you going?

Bek - how are you? How is intimo going?

Michelle - thinking of you always. I LOVE the pic of your boys fast asleep in bed together. So precious xx

Gotta go my loves, thinking of you all. Hopefully next time I post I will no longer be homeless (and since we have now been homeless for over 5 weeks that cannot come soon enough!!),

Bun xx

Jayney - July 15th huh?? Will have to keep it free and make a trip down to see you. I say go nuts on the shoes. I've seen Chinese shoes on ebay stores...I'd go nuts too (although they never have my size, yanno, being a Sasquach and all with my size 10 feet! Bet there's not many 10s in China). Good luck with the apartment hunt! Hope you find something you love. And most definitely YES to the China blog...although then I will have to actually work out how to properly read and comment on a blog. Escapes me at the present time.

Bun - Gah! Hope you get the homelessness sorted soon. Do you guys own a place in WA that is being rented or did you sell when you moved to Vic? Renting isn't much fun, especially the applicaiton process, but have to admit I love the house we're in and won't want to move when the time comes! DH is convinced we will buy it. LOL It's an investment property and owned by a couple in WA coincidently.

Mako - Glad to hear DH is feeling better. How did his appt go? Are these meds to treat the problem or just to stop the nausea? We'll have to organise to catch up in the next week or so. Will be a lot easier when I've got at least one back at school ;)

Lisa - Hope you and the girls are well. Loved all the pics of DHs 40th!!

When is everyone else coming to Sydney? Remember something about March and wanted to say please, please not the 25-28th march. I'm away with my girls in Port Douglas that weekend and if I miss out again I literally will cry!

AFU we are plodding along settling in. D has been HORRID though the last week or so. Constant whinging and tantrums GALORE. Neither V or L were big fans of the tanty but oh lordy D is making up for it! I am so surprised because he was such a content, placid little baby. Trying really hard to stick close to home and get him familiar with his new surrondings and back into routine etc but it's hard with the constant visitors staying. MIL and SIL and the kids are on their way up now so another few days of chaos no doubt :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong, I love that everyone is so excited for us and wants to come and check out our new place etc but we really, really just need some space for the kids' sake. I can't take one more visit from my Dad, he is driving me nuts atm, every time he is is here we have an argument, usually over one of the kids. Should settle down once school goes back I imagine. I hope!

BUN _ So wonderful to hear from you, even though things are crud right now. I really hope something perfect turns up & fast! I'll bet it's just when you drop your bundle & have a tanty - it will turn up. I'm really hoping it will be before then though! LOL. So, how do you feel coming back to Perth? Do you feel as though nothing has changed? Tell me that's how it is!!! I'm already nervous for when we move back! So tell me it's just like you never left. Well, I hope that some things have changed in my purple circle, but not too much.

LEE _ So glad you see my point of the shoe sales, I might get you in contact with Alan........... just to back me up! hahaha. I hope that the wind is changing for good changes, you don't need any more bad changes going on! It's a new year & new you & new state of mind!! All the crud can bugger of I reckon!

MAKO _ So glad to hear that there is an improvement for DH. Is the drugs he is taking for a stomach ulcer? How long does he have to take them for? Is the new changes beginning in the um, well, bedroom? bahahaha Get dirty darlin', you have a baby to make!!!

KELLY _ Just so you know, we are no longer friends. You are too busy swanning off in your smoking hot swimmers in the glorious heat of Perth. Was nice knowing you though. (I'm cracking myself up here!)

WILLOW _ Yes, I will fall down in a flood of tears if I DON'T see you on July 15 & then that will make it that I'm no longer your friend either. Now that I have met you all & am over a lot of my nerves, I should be able to construct a basic sentence this time!

MICHELLE _ Busted Lily again yet? Maybe a trampoline is on order for Christmas 2011..........

AFM _ I know this is REALLY bizarre. But my appetite is lost. Honestly. I just have no desire to eat anything. Nothing. I just MADE myself eat a yoghurt & now I feel blergh. Last night I cooked a nice steak (all the way from Perth hehehe) & some grilled veg. Ate nothing - just pushed it around my plate. This morning, I was expecting to be ravenous - nope. I'm drinking heaps of fluids but just no food appeals. I have gone & bought salmon & pasta & avocadoes & cherry tomatoes & capsicum to make a kick-butt salmon pasta with a tomato based cream sauce for dinner (as honestly, that sounds rocking right?) so I'm hoping it comes back soon. Wherever it's gone. Not that I'm really complaining, but it can't be a good thing. Hopefully I'm not coming down with something. Claudia has just been 'flat' the last couple of days. Just quiet & not her usual bouncy self. So maybe she feels like me too? Dunno!

Anyhoo, I'm off for lunch with my American friend (she's actually my Zumba teacher) today as she's going to the states for a holiday (well she says vacation), on Saturday & she has just found out she has very special cargo onboard. I'm so freaking excited for her! She is going to be the coolest mum on the block (apart from me - naturally!).

xxx

PS - do you know how weird it is to wear thermals underneath my jeans? Honestly, it's just plain bizarre.

Geez Jayne, not eating nesting, is there something you are not telling us???????????? xoxoxoxoxo

bahahahah Lee, you know, after I posted that I began to really stress myself out. I'm taking the Pill though, so I'm sure I'm pretty safe in that department!

Hi Ladies,

I can't keep up there is so much to read, which is great.

Jayne - Good luck with the apartment shopping and shoe shopping.

Willow - Glad to hear and see you are settling into your new area. You must be so relieved to having the moving business over with.

Bun - I hope everything falls into place for you. Enjoy your relocation. Thanks for asking about my new venture. I am in training atm and my launch will be at the end of Feb. I am very nervous and excited.

Mako - I hope your DH starts to improve.

Is the 15th of July on the cards? I have just bought some accommodation vouchers that I can use in Sydney CBD. Can anyone give me an idea of where the best place to stay would be?

AFM - As mentioned above I am venturing out into the big wide world of party plan type business. I never in a million years thought that I would be interested or that I had the personality for it but the right product has come along and I desperately need to get out of the house. For months I have been struggling with depression and just the sheer feeling of being overwhelmed and lost. I had a very low point on NYE. I hadn't been out to a club in years and I actually had a massive panic attack for fear of going out and having people look at this old and drained SAHM. Needless to say DH and I got a little bit frightened of my episode and I've made some changes. As well having my business I have been on a protein diet and I am exercising at home. I've lost 2.2kgs and I feeling heaps better. Bel - Have you looked at the Fatchick Slim challenges on FB? I am doing one atm, keeps me motivated and I don't have to leave home.

The kids are all good. Sara is off to school next Thursday. She is so excited, I swear this kid can make friends anywhere and I already know that her report cards are going to comment on her constant chatting lol. Loren is just so animated and articulate atm, although her moods swings are a little unnerving and Eva is just a little pocket rocket, she has just hit 10kgs at 18 months.

I may not come in much but I think of everyone very often.

Bek - YES YES YES 15 July is ON the cards & I would be absolutely so excited to meet you!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooooooooooot!!! Tell me about this party plan? What are you selling? Maybe you could do a party with us on 15 July??? Hopefully by then I have an apartment that actually delivers post, so I could get my stuff delivered. I really hope it's Enjo you're doing. Bahahah

I'm so glad to hear that you are making some positive changes. I had been worried about you for a while now & I figured something was going on. While I'm not glad to hear about the 'episode' I am glad to hear that it made you realise some changes that you would like to make & you're now going about & doing them. Personally I think the party plan (whatever it is) is a great idea for you, you need some you time to come back & getting out there, meeting people & also banking a bit of pocket money at the same time sounds like a recipe that's built to work!

Awesome news that all the pixie's are doing so well & OMG @ Sara going off to school. I'll bet you're one excited Mumma about that! I think it sounds like she is more than ready for it as well.

Please come & post with us more often - we miss you! & for entirely selfish reasons, I can't get FB & I miss you even more.

Love Jayne xx

Oh ladies....I have a dilemma, could be nothing but still, here goes...

AF is late...bbs are sore....:doh: In this situation, ive always prayed for af to stay away, this time im not so sure......

That was one hell of a 40th ;) But seriously - call me. I am around tomorrow if you want to chat. And you need to test :hug:

Aw Lis, I sympathise :hug:. I agree with Shel, you need to test. Of course, you know that......but maybe I need to come over and make you do it??? :p

Between Lisa and Jayne, I'm freaking out!!!

Id test Lisa! Wasnt Natalya a surprise baby too? For peace of mind Id check into it. Might just be stress though so dont panic ok!?

The 15th of July. Why oh why is everyone coming to visit when my Dh is away and I have no free babysitter :rofl: Atleast I will have $$$, fancy some shopping Jayney?

Thank you ladies,

Michelle - yes it was one hell of a 40th but Dame Edna didnt her rocks off that night!! I havent had AF since before Natalya's christening which makes AF about 10 days late. But I have been having some stronger period type cramping this morning, So I am going to buy a test today just to be sure. I dont think I could cope with 3 mentally, and I was up thinking last night, mainly about you and how you do it, and I just cant tell you how much I admire the amazing job you do. I know there are dark moments for you but your ability to push on and parent those kids as well as you do really does amaze me xx

Anna - yes Nat was a surprise baby... and its ok bring the boys to Syd meet up - I will happily volunteer to look after one of them!

Jayne - I was on the pill when I fell pg with Natalya :D

Bek - So glad honey that you have started this business and the wight loss too - its very important that at some point we start to get some of ourselves back, you have devoted so much of you to your kids and now you deserve to get a little bit back. I cant wait to meet you in July and give you a big squishy hug!

I will pop back in once I have tested

Lis xxx

Lisa - I've been where you are honey when I was prg with D. I always wanted 3 children and was THRILLED to be prg again without IVF, a tiny little miracle but I was so unprepared mentally. I was just drained after our loss, IVF, the sleep issues we'd had with L, he'd only just turned one and things were EASY again. I didn't have any time to prepare myself for another pregnancy. But if it is positive, you'll do just fine. I spent a lot of my pregnancy with D worrying how I would cope - and you know what? I coped just fine. Better than the other two probably. :hug: Good luck!

Jayney - Hmmmmm. What about you missy??!!

Bek - I have been worried about you for a long time. I knew something was up. You have absolutely done the best thing for you I think. You needed to get out there and grab something just for yourself. So hearing you've done that is wonderful!! I'd love to see you on the 15th too!!

Anna - Will you still be in Sydney? If so, just bring the boys with you. I probably won't have any of mine with me (maybe D depending on how b'feeding is going and how long I'll be away) so I can help out too.

Lisa - You know what?? You could cope with three. You don't think you could but you do. Like Willow said, number 3 is actually easier than number 2. But considering the stress around the baptism and then preparing for the 40th you could just as easily be late :hug: Let me know when you test xx And thank you :)

Far out ladies!!! Lisa, go buy the test!!! When I get back home from Zumba, I want to know the outcome!! You hear?
No chance of me being pregnant ladies, I'm safely on the Pill with AF in tow right now................... Mind you, it has been a mighty weird AF - but it IS there.
I have to scoot, I'm running late for Zumba, but I couldn't read & not reply.
xx