Parenting after Miscarriage or Loss ~ March/April 2010

I know i havent been around much and i apologise.

I just wanted to pop in and let Michelle know that i've been thinking of her & her family :hug:

:cry::cry::cry: I just feel so sad today. Why do bad things happen to good people?

Thats the million dollar question Spring, and I just wish I had more anwswers. My DH once told me after we lost Luc "that the best revenge is to live well" - I can see this is true, but it can be so hard as well.

I've been looking at the clock all morning too.... and thinking of you dear Michelle. I remember SO well my Dh's funeral - it was so full in the church, I sat right up front - and an old friend came up and touched my shoulder before the service, and said "you are so strong" - but I didn't think I was, it was only because I was not crying at that moment that I was seen as strong - but on the inside I was a wreck. I'm so sorry Michelle, you have to feel this horrible amount of pain. I'm not going anywhere and will be here for you xoxoxoxo

Lee xoxoxo

Sorry I have been MIA with so many of you needing support, but the gastro bug went through all of us this week :wall:

Just wanted to pop in and say my prayers are with Michelle xx

Thinking of you Michelle :hug:

Michelle, my thoughts and prayers have been with you all day :comfort:

Ditto.. Michelle.. can't think about anything else today.

Michelle - Thinking of you babe. :hug:

Just wanted to say before I logged off...

Deb - I'm sorry about my post yesterday. I read it this morning and gave myself a forehead slap. I was truly trying to be helpful and trying to offer some reassurance that while it's very painful now, I'm sure things with Ruby will resolve with some time. But telling you my sister left at 15 and never came home...helpful right??!! :wall: :doh: I'm sorry (for what it's worth, her situation was very different, there was a boy involved etc).

I'm really finding it hard to offer anything comforting or wise in here at the moment. Everything is just so awful :(

Michelle - I have been thinking of you all day sweetheart. Hong Kong has changed from a sweltering humid heat to a cold, rainy, cloudy day today. xxx

Willow - Hugs. Things are hard atm and I struggle to word things correctly or even find the correct words.

It's okay Willow I didn't take it any way except as being helpful, loving & concerned... :hug:

:grouphug: Today has been hard on all of us as we feel so helpless so far away... I can't even imagine the emotions that our beautiful friend is feeling. :cry:

I think now more than ever we need a big :grouphug: In here.

Michelle: I hope the night passes gently and you somehow manage to get some rest.

We all love you so much.

Love Spring xx

Spring you are so right about the :grouphug: being needed in here.

Michelle I hope you manage to get a little bit of sleep tonight. I have been thinking of you constantly and wish I could take some of your pain away for you :hug: My candle is still alight too :hug:

I'm sending each and everyone of you wonderful women a :hug: tonight too.

Michelle: as the sun dawns in a new day I hope you managed to get even a tiny bit of rest last night. :hug:

I hope it's ok to share this but my little lad has now mastered rolling back to front and I can no longer put him down and be assured he'll be in the same place. He also has two toothie pegs pushing through and his gum already feels sharp where they are coming through. At least these things explain the 2 hourly feeding overnight. I even tried him with a sippy cup of EBM yesterday which he guzzled no worries with O I had to try about 5 different cups before I found one he would take. I think it's safe to say he is growing up.

O is doing really well and I think it's safe to say he is totally TT now. He is even able to hold on for a little bit and it isn't a case of a mad dash to the loo. He went through a bit of a regession recently, baby talking, wetting his pants, wanting to sleep in b's cot but I'm happy to say we are through the worst of it. He is really into singing ATM. He'll hear a song on the radio and will remember the words the next time he hears it. Yesterday he started singing ' stop talking that blah blah blah' to that new Keesha (sp?) song. :rofl::rofl:

Oh and for those cloth addicts you'll be happy to hear that my first ever fluffy mail arrived yesterday. In the wash for a pre-wash as we speak. I got bumgeneis and I have to say I'm very impressed with them so far.

Big love all round
spring

SPRING _ Well haven't you been a busy mummy. O is TT'ed, B is rolling & you are losing weight like it's going out of fashion! Good on you! I'm really pleased for you.

AFM _ We are enjoying our last day in Hong Kong before the long flight home tomorrow. We leave Alan at the airport where he goes onto Manila for work so it's going to be interesting leaving him behind, I'm not sure how the kids are going to cope with that. Last night we went to Madame Tussaudes & I got a pic with Johnny Depp, geepers I love that spunk. LOL. Was almost as good as the real thing. hahahah We are off to Ocean Park today which has rollercoasters, dolphins, seals and Panda Bears. I made a very bad mistake at Disney & took Jess on a rollercoaster. I honestly thought that at Disney the rides wouldn't be scary, I took her on a ride called Space Mountain, that should have clued me in, but I have holiday brain & it didn't. It started off a pitch black ride that was very nice with shooting stars, planets & stars which was very pretty & then WHHOOOSSSSHHH off we went. If I hadn't of gone to the loo 2 minutes before, I would have wet my pants. It was the scariest thing I have ever been on & I had Jess right beside me. The poor lovie cried. I felt soooooooo bad. Oh well, at least she has something to talk about!

Love Jayne x

Spring I love reading how your boys are doing and by the sounds of it they are doing so so well as are you with your weight loss :clap:
I bet Ollie is very cute when he's singing :) DS has just started to do that this week but of course its along with the Wiggles lol.
And well done to Ben on being such a clever little fella rolling over and drinking from a sippy cup :clap:

Jayne I'm sorry but I had to laugh when you said about the roller coaster. I'm the biggest sook when it comes to rides these days. When I was younger it was a totally different story lol. Poor Jess I hope she's not too traumatised by it ;)
I hope the flight home goes well and the girls behave themselves for you. I can see lots of tears at the airport though :(

Nothing much going on here atm. Still wondering what to do about work and I'm so not looking forward to going back on Tuesday :(

Michelle, as always, you are in my thoughts. I will call you this weekend, but please know you can contact me anytime if you want to :hug: I hope your kiddies are holding up okay, it must be very tough on them.

Never a dull moment with your around Jayney Jayne! You poor loves on the rollercaoster, I feel sorry for you, but gee it's a funny story :lol: Sounds like you've had a ball, I'm sure it will be sad to leave, and say goodbye :(

Mako, I'm sorry you're doing it so tough ATM :hug: I hope going back to work is easier than you're expecting.

Spring, your boys are sounding soooo grown up! Not allowed LOL! I love hearing how they're going, you are sounding like the most relaxed, cruisey mama, it's wonderful to hear :D

We're going well, my boys are divine. Feeding is still LOTS of hard work, it feels like a never-ending rollercoaster ride ATM, it's pretty depressing. But DS2 is thriving, which is fantastic. He needs to have his hernia repaired :(, which will likely be next week. The paed surgeon will call on Monday apparently, to tell me which day. I'm very sad for him that he has to have it done, I know it's only minor surgery, but it will still be yucky. And his reflux is only getting worse, so we're picking up some Zantac tomorrow morning for him. I hope it helps! So yeah, it's all fun and games here, but I think I'm coping okay with it all. People tell me I look great, and seem like I'm coping so brilliantly. I think it's just that I don't have a choice - if I think about it too much I'll just fall apart, so I just keep on keeping on. Seems to be working so far :). DS1 is being adorable, he is hysterical. He had his first swimming lesson in a year yesterday, and he did sooooooo well, I was so proud of him. He told my mum today "I went swimming, and mummy was very pwoud of me" LOL. Getting the normal almost-three-year-old meltdowns, but they're generally short lived ;).

Better go, the little one is calling! Hello to the many that I've missed, sorry!

Love to all xoxo

Janie - your doing such a fantastic job hun! I know its cliche but time will just fly by and before you know it we'll be chatting in here about D turning 1 and wondering where the time went; and all the tough stuff will be a distant memory. Poor thing having to have surgery though; Im sure he'll be fine, its tough on Mama's when their babies need any sort of medical fixing :hug:

Hi girls. Just a quick one to let you know I am home. It is a different home but ours just the same. I will update you on our day yesterday but I really just wanted to say a heartfelt thank you.

I had a feeling of peace and love as we travelled through the formalities of yesterday. I gave a eulogy that I was told was beautiful and people kept telling me how brave I was. They just haven't seen the tears and the sobbed version as I said goodbye to my husbands mortal body for the last time :( I am exhausted, physically and mentally. But happy to be back in our house and not the place where Greg died. I have so much to write and tell you but mostly I just want to say thank you.

Thank you for your love, support, calls, candles, prayers and hugs - cyber or otherwise. It means so much to have the love surround you and Greg always knew how important you all are to me. I will be back over the next few days when things start to revert to the new *normal* :(

Michelle: I can't tell you how relieved I am to read your words and know that you are home safe and sound. The fact that you had the strength to do a eulogy just goes to show what a phenmominal woman you are. Greg would have been mighty proud of you for showing such courage and strength. What a fitting tribute to your beloved husband.

We are all here for you whether you want to share each and every detail or if you don't feel like sharing at all. Whatever you need we will rally around you to help you through.

Love Spring xx

Michelle, Spring said it well........I am so *relieved* that you are home again, although so so sad for you that it is not the same :(. It sounds as though you were incredibly strong yesterday, but that is no surprise to me, you are an incredible woman. It's okay to have some days where you're not so strong too hun :hug: The exhaustion must be terrible...........but please know that all of us in here are so proud of you :grouphug:

Michelle I'm pleased to hear you and O and L are home safe and sound too and Oh my you are a wonderfully brave and strong woman to be able to say a beautiful eulogy to you wonderful husband. Janie and Spring said it very well and I have to agree with all they have said :hug:
Please know that I'm only a phone call away and I can drop everything and drive to give you a :hug: anytime you need it. So please don't be afraid to make that call or send that text :hug: I will call you soon.

Janie Glad to hear all is going well with your boys too even with the upcoming minor surgery for little D. I'm sure he'll do fine but can understand how upsetting it can be for you to have your little boy go through that. I hope the Zantac helps with his reflux too and just remember you are doing a wonderful job :clap: You have been through so much to get where you are today and I know that hasn't been an easy road :hug:

Janie: sorry that the gorgeous little D needs surgery. I was a mess when I had his but thankfully he coped with it much better than me. They are resiliant little things. Glad to hear N is relishing the role of big bro, how cute.
I hope the feeding issues continue to improve and the Zantac helps

mako: how are you doing babe? I think of you often. Time to put some new photos of your gorgeous little lad on FB so I can see how he is growing.

Jayne: gawd I love reading your tales. I have a picture of you and Jess holding on for dear life. I couldn't help but giggle. In all seriousness though, I hope it didn't scare Jess too much.

Well I jinxed myself. We had a terrible night here. O is having really bad nightmares and is waking often. Feel like a zoombie today.

Luv Spring xx

Michelle - I knew you could do it honey, I know Greg was watching down very proud of his amazing wife. We are all here taking the next steps with you :hug:

Sorry we are all still a bit sick - well me more so - but Im reading all your posts.

Janie - hope D's surgery goes well :hug:

Lis

Two words for you - HEAD LICE :o :sick:

Michelle - Hugs, hugs and more hugs. We're all here to help you through the next stages.

Janie - OMG... not really what you need right now! Geez.. you've made my head itch.. why does that happen.. I can't stop scratching - LOL!

Jayne - How did the trip home go.. I'm sure there were lots of tears at the airport, not much fun to be leaving without Alan. I hope the girls were ok and were good for you on the plane!! You still crack me up.. LOVE the rollercoaster story and can't wait to catch up in a couple of weeks!

Lisa - Hope you're all feeling better soon.

Mako - Still thinking of you all the time too.. have you had any more thoughts about work?

Spring - Hope you have a better night tonight.

AFM - I'm doing pretty good. I still can't believe that I'm actually growing a little bub.. it's so fantastic and although I've been feeling incredibly sick and so very tired.. I'm trying to enjoy every single minute because I know how blessed I am that everything is ok this time (and because it will absolutely be the last time for us). I still freak out every time I get a cramp or twinge in my tummy but I guess that's normal and I'm seeing my ob on Monday, so I'm sure she'll do another scan for me!! I haven't even seen her yet as she's been away.. so both scan's have been at the imaging place. Will be great to see her.

Well, must go, have got my brother here still... thank god, he's been an amazing help while I've been feeling so crappy and has kept Luke nice and busy!! I think we're going to go to the footy tomorrow, so that will be good.

Kel xxx

Hiya guys, sorry I haven't been in much lately, it's hard to get online while staying with my parents.

Michelle, I was thinking of you and your family on Thurs hun and sending all my best wishes your way. Thanks for popping in, it's good to hear from you. You are so strong hun, I am sure the eulogy was beautiful and I know it must have been so unbelievably hard to do.

Deb - hugs hun, I know this must be breaking your heart. Like Willow said, she will come around eventually. I know that doesn't help now, but I am confident she will come back to you. I really can't believe what your ex is doing, it makes my blood boil.

mako - hugs to you too hun. I agree too that maybe you should look for another job in the same area if possible. I am sure you are wonderful at it and you certainly don't deserve a boss like the one you have.

kelly - glad to hear you sounding so happy!

bek - how is the sleep going?

jayne - I hope the flight home goes well. I can't wait to meet you! And I can't believe you went on Space Mountain - that is one scary ride!! We went to Disneyland when I was preggers with DD so I couldn't go, but DH did and it sounds pretty full on! I couldn't help but have a little giggle at your expense though!

Jo - how are you going? Good to see you in here.

Spring - sounds like your boys are doing amazingly well. And you sound so happy which is lovely :)

janie - sounds like your boys are just wonderful too. Sorry to hear that D has to have an op, that must be such a horrible thought, even if it is only minor surgery. I would be terrified too. Hugs hun. And oh no on the head lice!! Hope they go away soon.

We are having a great time in Perth but are so so busy. DD hasn't even had time for a nap since we have been here and I am hoping so much that I can get her back into her day naps once we are home. DS is such a joy - he is a really good little boy and is not bad at all at night. And we have had a breakthrough with DD - since we have been here she has slept in a big girl bed!! yay!! I have been trying for ages at home and she has refused to make the transition, so I am stoked that she has finally done it. I just hope that she keeps it up once we are home!

Anyway, gotta go, once again Mum is hassling me for her puter. Will pop in again as soon as I can. Thinking of you all xx

Hi girls - can I ask a quick question for a dear friend of mine....

She has just turned 42 and has a 3 year old daughter, and is desparately wanting one more child. She had a miscarriage 6 months ago at 9 weeks, followed by D&C, and has not fallen pregnant since. Here's the facts working against her.....

She went to IVF recently, they did a blood test on her eggs, and it came back as a very low count left;
Her hubby has an extremely low sperm count (although this has largely been put down to him having a kidney stone and being ill recently, now on the mend);
Her hubby is a closed book, and often won't talk about the issue of another child; and often won't go near ner physically (I know this is a major problem obviously, but there's a lot behind this, so for now, lets just factor it in.... she still is desparate for another child)
IVF doctor told her "not to bother" - which just isn't good enough I think, there are other avenues (sperm, egg donation, trying to improve egg quality etc).

Reading this back, it's all a bit all over the shop - I just wondered if any of you could offer any great advice for her right now - of course she would rather their own biological child, but at 42 and with so many obstacles in her way, what to do?????

Lee xoxoxoxo

Just popping in to check on Michelle :hug: and to let you know I'm home. Have been at my parents place with no internet or phone access (I don't get service there, very frustrating). Had a shocking weekend away with the boys, mainly L who had a huge meltdown the first night and would not go to sleep. He was absolutely beside himself and at 9pm I finally fed him to sleep. I have never seen him like that, it was awful :( My parents were trying to help but really just added to the stress and I ended up having a little meltdown of my own. He had a rest in his cot yesterday but did not go to sleep which seems to be happening a lot lately and I am stressing that he is going to drop his day nap and he is not ready, he still needs that sleep. He slept OK last night though.

He is just such hard work atm and I feel like I am doing a really average job with him :( Add that to the fact D is still waking at least twice at night and I'm a bit over it all right now. It's getting on top of me :(

Anyway, enough whinging from me, there are far worse things going on in the world.

Will BBL for a proper post.

PS Mako - I'm so sorry we couldn't meet you somewhere for lunch today. But like I said, L had a shocking trip and we just wanted to get him home. DH has suggested maybe we come up for a drive next Sunday? No biggie if you're busy, we just both felt bad that we couldn't meet up today.

BBL - Willow hugs regarding D's sleep and L's tantrums. I really really know what you are going through. My L is awful atm.

Michelle - So glad to hear you are home.

Lisa - Get better everyone.

Bun - Sleep!! Miss Eva hasn't changed.

Janie - Wow you are doing it tough. Little D will be in my thoughts for his op and I hope the Zantac works a treat.

Hi to all.

Willow - it's a TOUGH GIG this parenting one!!! Sleep deprivation is a shocker - I'm suffering too atm. Sorry I cannot offer any great solutions, other than it will get easier - just try and find little ways in the day of stealing a moment or two's peace - lie down to read a book etc.... a bad night so easily throws everybody for a day or two. A couple of nights ago I slept solidly from 11pm to 5am - couldn't get back to sleep again, but felt great, amazing, for having had a solid block............don't be too jealous, as it doesn't happen often I promise!!

Michelle - how are things going hon, have you got family staying with you at the moment, what's your "game plan" iykwim - are you getting a few systems of support happening, I hope so hon, take everything that is offered. I found it hard having family staying all the time, although I desprately needed some help, I also needed my own space - it was a case of dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. In the end, after all had left, I was home alone with 2 little ones - in a way it was good, becaue I had no choice but to get on with things, and learn my new "normal".

Sorry got to go, speak of the devil, family calling on Skype!!

Lee xoxoxo

Lee Your earlier post re your friend has given me some new things to think about. I had no idea kidney stones can affect fertility. My DH has stones and he only has a solitary kidney. I'm wondering if that is maybe contributing into our issues. I'm going to ask my Ob when I see her in a couple of weeks.
I hope your friend can get some answers too. I just don't have any advice for them though. I'm sorry.
How are you doing now your MIL has gone home and how are you feeling?

Willow No worries about today babe. DH just suggested it out of the blue when I got a text from you ;) I'm pleased you guys made it home safely even with L being a little terror. This age is so tough and I want you to know you aren't the only one having a tough time with our boys. DS is sooooooooooo cheeky atm and his favourite word is "NO". I tell ya he's pushing the boundaries here in a very big way. DH had him so upset at dinner tonight I ended up in tears as well as DS. I really hope this stage passes very quickly for all of us including you Bek :hug:
As for next weekend we are going to Quirindi camping. We;ll catch up in a few weeks though ;)

Laney All the best for your scan tomorrow. Make sure you pop in to let us know how it all went :hug:

Girls I'm stressing a bit atm. I have an appointment for a massage tomorrow and as much as I love my therapist I'm scared she's going to want to talk about my M/C as I saw her the day before my scan and I told her I was pregnant and all the other stuff we'd been through(she's more a friend than just a massage therapist though). But I'm worried I'm going to breakdown and cry in front of her and TBH I don't want to do that. I just feel its not the time or the place but I'm just so unpredictable atm and as I know I haven't allowed myself to grieve for this baby yet(just too darn angry about everything and haven't let myself go kwim?) I' not too sure where I'm going with this but I haven't spoken to anyone IRL about it and I'm not sure I'm ready to be "confronted" yet :redface:
So if you have any advice on how I should deal with it just in case I'm asked or heaven forbid if she gives me a hug I just know I'm going to lose it(she has had a m/c and lost a baby so she does understand what we all go through) :(
Ok that's enough from me :redface:

Mako - ohhh, hugs hon. I'm training to be a massage therapist, and we did a HUGE unit on counselling.... as so often is the case, people do let go during a massage and want to talk to someone they can trust. Please don't stress, you know reading between the lines in your post, I get the feeling you need to let it out, and a massage by a friend may really help offload some of the pain. Make sure you drink gallons of water afterwards to rid your body of all the toxins and crud.......... let it go, even just a bit of it if you can - if you really don't feel ready, just tell her kindly that you don't want to talk today, just have a quiet massage - she should respect that too xoxoxo

I'm okay I guess, I've made an appointment with the PND nurse for 2/3 weeks time, she sounded very nice and very understanding - the appointment is 1.5 hours, and they mind the little ones for the duration, I hope I get something substantial from it. I'm glad my MIL left, she just caused more stress, and the French are just so blunt sometimes, to the point of being rude and mean - for example - she asked my 12 year old daughter (who has a little pot belly) "when is the baby due" :o WTF - DD12 is still upset by it - I could have killed her honestly - the damage that kind of comment can do to a young vulnerable girl - my DH saw it all too, and he's not real happy with his mother and doesn't want her back anytime soon! She lives far far away, so thats that!

Hi to everyone else - I'm 'treading water' like a lot of us in here - thats okay for now, hugs all around.

Lee xoxoxo

Oh Mako - Massive hugs hun, it's so hard but honestly, I really think it might be good for you to let some of it out. Sometimes it's easier with someone that isn't all that close to you too.. although it sounds like she's a good friend. The fact that she's been through a m/c herself definitely helps, I'm sure she'll be completely understanding if you do have a few tears. Most importantly though, don't get yourself worked up before you get there (I know that's probably impossible).. you really need to relax and enjoy the massage, it will do you the world of good. I wish I had more advice to offer. Hugs.. I'm thinking of you all the time.

Lee - OMG at your MIL comments to DD12... WTF??? That's terrible. I'm glad you've got an appointment with the PND nurse.. I hope it helps.. even a little bit.

Willow - We've still got major issues with DS and his tantrums atm too.. he's so damn stubborn and it's driving me MAD!! I'm actually at a bit of a loss right now, I don't know what to do anymore, nothing seems to be working. Yesterday was shocking.. he decided (after weeks of perfect TT'ing and NO accidents at all) that he wanted to wee all over the house again... awesome! I think he just wants it all to be HIS way. Arrrggg!

Michelle - All the best for today hun. Hugs.

Laney - Hope the appointment goes well today!

AFM - I've got an appointment with the OB today.. I haven't seen her yet as she's been away so I can't wait to actually see her. I'm still really nervous about it, even though we're past the 'really bad' stage for us.. we're still not quite in the clear I guess. I've been feeling pretty bad though, so I'm fairly confident all is ok... oh god, it's still hard though!! Doesn't help with DS being a little ratbag.. he's really testing us atm and I'm wondering how I'll ever cope with him and a newborn.. without our family around.

Kel xxx

Hi ladies just thought i'd pop in so you know i'm still here for you all just a bit down lately but trying to get past it.

I'm doing well 16weeks now, have a scan in 2weeks and m/s is still hanging around.

Please know i'm here for you all just not posting much :hug:

Mako - You know I found that it was situations like these, where I expected to lose it, that I actually didn't. I don't know if it's because I was so worried that people would ask that I would run it all through my head the way I thought it would play out, what they'd say, what I'd say etc that when the time came it just happened really differently or I had prepared myself mentally for it so was able to stay composed. It was the times it came out of the blue that got me. But I agree with the girls, I think if you are comfortable it might help to let a little out. It's not good to bottle it up for too long. I did that for the longest time but eventually, it all comes crashing down :hug: Re DH - did Dr S/your ob do testing for him? I would have thought they would have already checked him out? I had a feeling you would be busy this weekend! LOL. Always the way.


Mako/Kelly/Bek - It is a bit comforting to hear that you are having similar issues but it's awful at the same time iykwim. I know all children go through this stage but I just don't remember it being this bad with DD. I am starting to realise that we got it pretty easy with her. She is generally an easy going, placid kid. Makes me feel guilty to constantly compare them but things just always seem to be harder with L. Times like this you start questioning your parenting and whether you are doing the right things. Like you Kel, sometimes I just feel like nothing works. Especially when others start questioning your methods too. My parents are very supportive but after my little meltdown on the weekend my dad said to me 'Whatever you're doing isn't working. You're going to have to try something different. You need to take the hard line or you'll end up with a 3 year old running your life' :rolleyes: He honestly is trying to help because he hates to see me so upset over the kids, but it just makes it harder. His tantrums aren't that frequent, it's more constant 'no's and asking him not to do things 3,000 times and him STILL not listening. The scar on his forehead is going to be 1000 times worse than it should be because every time it starts to heal and he pulls at it again :wall:

Had a shocking night here last night and I am just so over it all. Had a feeling something was up with D because he'd been whinging and running hot all day. He was dripping in sweat when I went in to resettle him the first time but panadol didn't help. He is cutting 4 teeth so I'm not sure if that was the problem but he woke so often I ended up putting him in bed with us. I seriously do not know how people co-sleep, he was sleeping but I definitely wasn't!

Anyway, enough whinging. It's the last day of school hols today and I'm determined we are going to have a good day!!

Must be the night/day for it Willow :rolleyes: I am feeling seriously overwhelmed, and seriously tired today. We're meant to be having such a nice week, instead we're dealing with headlice (me and N), reflux, feeding issues (as per usual), DH working like a loony. Oh, and I'm waiting this morning to hear from the paed. surgeon about what day D's surgery will be :(. My mum was going to take N today, but she didn't mention it when I spoke to her last night, I'm guessing she doesn't want nits :lol: Still, I'm disappointed, as I was really looking forward to a day with D. Never mind, I do understand.

Okay, I'm off to work on the positives.........of which there are plenty! Hope you all have a lovely day :D

:hug: Willow. Ripley has been much the same behaviour wise to L. I think its a boy-age thing because from memory Jett was the same around a similar age. Then he went good towards 3, then had a last ditch effort period right after 3 and now he's fabulous.

Jo - 16wks, thats flown by!

Kelly - good luck with your appointment today :hug:

Mako - :hug: I dont have any advice because no one really talks about my m/c, not even Dh. Guess they are just a non-issue for them. Im sure if you just explain to her about it and that your not really ready to talk she'll completely understand.

Mako, I'm going to say something that will probably sounds really blunt, but I say it with love :)..............it sounds as though you need someone, a friend, IRL that you can talk to (if you want to) about your issues. I think you've said it yourself recently. Your massage therapist friend sounds like she could be the ideal person, because she will understand to some degree where you're coming from. Of course, if you really really just don't want to talk about your m/c, then don't. It's only worth it if it's going to help you. But maybe having a friend who can hug you, and let you cry will help?

Of course we are all ALWAYS here for you, and ready to support you. But sometimes that IRL person can make all the difference. Just a suggestion, I hope I haven't upset you :hug: