so just do the right thing and register them and you won't have a problem. whats the big deal?
my cat is registered and she's not a danger to anyone (unless you are a rat). its really not that hard.
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so just do the right thing and register them and you won't have a problem. whats the big deal?
my cat is registered and she's not a danger to anyone (unless you are a rat). its really not that hard.
Ahh got it right then, thanks Alish :)
ETA - Heaven, that's exactly it. I don't understand why people get so upset about it. If the dog is registered, then it can't be taken away. It also means that the community is safe(r) because with registering a restricted breed comes certain rules about how it needs to be kept. To me, this is the same as getting a speeding fine. If you didn't speed, you wouldn't be booked. So if you register the dog, it won't be taken away.
just a quick question!
We own an English Staff who i know for a fact ppl have "thought" was a pit bull until they actually came and asked what he was :wall: anyway my question is what happens to us owners who have an English or AmStaff? (or any other terrier line that is similar to the pit bull). If they are reported or suspected of being pit bull etc then obviously the onus falls on us to prove our dog is not a Pit Bull, so just wanted to know how do we do that, is it only through DNA testing? - should add that our staffy was purchased from a registered english staff breeder so we do have his breed papers showing blood lines etc so we do know what dog we have. my query was more from the pov that most ppl don't even know what a pb looks like (as proven in this thread) so the whole thing encouraging "dob in a pit or 'suspected' pit" was why i asked.
ETA: and yes he is registered and has been since we got him 7yrs ago :) - along with our Chihuahua! (yes, weird match but they adore each other and have grown up together)
i guess for me its the fact that if they start on unregistered - they can start on registered:
while i dont own a pitbull, i own 2 american staffies (one is registered a staffy - when we got her from a pup - she has now grown up and looks like a ridgeback) - both registered - and im curious like negrita is - ive had mine confused for pitbulls.. ill be more than happy to pay for all the testing to prove they arent.. but its the fact that they *could* have the power to just take them off you without finding out the proper breed.
if that makes sense?
i thought they couldn't take them off you if they are registered?
I think it is through DNA testing. I remember seeing something on one of those reality shows, like "The Force" - the police were called to seize a dog people were suspicious of being a pit bull, and the owner believed was a pit bull. The lady was throwing the ball to it out in a park beside a primary school, so it was off lead, and people had called the police. They took the dog and got it DNA tested, and it came back that it was a cross breed, so she could have it back. Maybe ask at your vets? There could be some way you could get it done so you actually have the paperwork to present should it come to that. I know you shouldn't have to do that, but I guess if it was me and I was worried, that's what I'd try and do.
Then get them tested now and have the paperwork there if the need arises.
They would need to test them if the dogs are confiscated with intent to put them down. And you would certainly be able to push for them to do so, it would be at your expense obviously.
I really don't see the issue. They are dangerous, register them. And WTF do people buy dogs they don't know what breed they are??? I just don't get it.
not at the moment - as i said - its the fact that they *could* start to even if they are registered.:
pacrakmg - yeah i might talk to dh about this tonight - if they ever came knocking at least i could have the paperwork ready to prove it - if they started seizing registered ones..
mine are not registered as a dangerous breed anyway - i asked the question - i did the right thing - but at the moment they are not considered a dangerous breed.
And they *could* make all dogs illegal tomorrow.
What are basing that assertion on?
i wouldn't worry about it just yet.
i would only worry if i had a pit bull.
They could also make a law saying we could all only wear purple hats...or ban the burqa...or outlaw wombats...
As it stands, if you've got an unregistered dog, you're doing the wrong thing and will face consequences. If your dog is a pittie then you are also risking the life of your dog. Registered dog = no risk of being destroyed. No point worrying about what-ifs.
There is meant to be something on 10 news tonight about it I think.:
In my experience of BLS- if your dog catches the eye of the ranger and meets the requirements of a restricted or dangerous breed, the onus is on you as an owner to prove that it isn't.
The requirements used to be a 12 point checklist- you can google it, but it's quite vague in my opinion.
Many of my clients did have DNA testing to prove the dog was in fact a mixed breed dog and fought the council to keep it under strict regulations.
This is specifically one of the reasons why I bought my staffy from a registered breeder- I have the papers to prove what breed if dog he is.
I would not buy american staffordshire terrier from an unregistered breeder, basically the council will call that a pit bull.
I have nothing against that breed of dog or a pit bull for that matter- if it is bred and handled correctly.
My previous job before becoming a mummy was to stick my hand in dogs mouths to obtain DNA samples.
Only been bitten once, that was by a dachshund!
Alish your dogs are not pit-bulls and are registered. You're doing all the right things so there's no point in worrying about what might or might not happen in the future.
Ok, something I am trying to understand. The Pitbull and the American Staffordshire Terrier, pretty much come from the same breeding. The American Staffordshire Terrier is on the banned list in the UK. So why is it any different to own a APBT or a AST? If one is dangerous, then isn't the other breed? Also getting onto crosses, shouldn't the crosses of a Pit Bull be also banned, as it seems to be how many people are getting around things by saying "Oh, mine is a cross, not a pure bred" Well the crosses have to come form somewhere, so aren't some of them coming from Purebreds and therefore aren't you supporting restricted/banned bred by buying the crosses?
I think because American staffordshire terrier's are a recognized pure breed in Australia.:
So if you buy one from a registered breeder and can provide pedigree papers, you are safe. Unless your dog is deemed dangerous by the council, but this can happen to any breed.
People have tried to fight BSL in the past by providing DNA results stating a primary or secondary breed of another breed of dog- so 1 parent was a Labrador- this making it unfair to destroy because there are plenty of other Labrador crosses out in the world. Does that make sense?
However, if Your dog HAS bitten a person or an animal and been reported for doing so, I would imagine that the breed won't make much difference.
The cases I have dealt with are more to do with being dobbed in for owning a mixed breed dog that may look like a Pitbull- but has actually not done anything to harm anyone.
I'm trying to think of a case in particular- very well publicized case in Queensland about 3 years ago. If I remember the details, I'll come back to post.
Astrid, there is no such thing as a pure bred pit bull, they aren't recognized as an official breed. Technically they are all cross breeds. None should be bred from but it is next to impossible to stop people that want to keep breeding them.
The distinction between pit bulls and amstaffs is what I was getting at before - they are pretty much the same thing yet you buy yourself a whole heap of trouble labeling your dog a pit bull rather than amstaff.
Thanks for the replies ladies. Seems like a lot of splitting of hairs to me with the whole its a cross, or a slightly different breed etc Whilst a similar breed is recognised, and as such allowed, that it allows the banned "breed" to continue.
Really its wrong to blame the average public for not being able tell the different breeds apart, why should they have to know the slight difference between them? They are not dog show judges and nor should they be.