Hmmm ... interesting. That makes sense that traditionally they would have thought like that. That's not why we made the decision to do it but I can see how that would influence the rates up here ;):
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Hmmm ... interesting. That makes sense that traditionally they would have thought like that. That's not why we made the decision to do it but I can see how that would influence the rates up here ;):
Not going to get into what I think of "it" but I just wanted to say that if you decide not to get it done, make sure you know how to take care of an intact penis - for example, you have to know that normally the foreskin doesn't retract for quite a while (around seven, IIRC? Someone correct me if I'm wrong) and you just need to rinse with warm water. The mantra is "only clean what is seen" - you wouldn't clean the inside of a daughter's vagina, so why clean under the foreskin? It's actually fused like a fingernail, so it's incredibly painful and damaging stripping it back.
My advice would be to look at anti-circ websites as well as pro ones - preferably at the same time so you can compare arguments and evidence to help make your decision. If you want some links to anti ones, I have some links I can send you if you'd like? I'm 100% anti, but I happened to come across a few the other night that I read thoroughly so I could educate myself some more :)
Its funny but alot of women have said reasons for not circumcising , were so their son wouldn't be the odd one out, against his peers etc
My husband is, therefore I thought it only natural/normal that he match his dad, He however did not know we were having a boy until his birth (although I only bought blue clothes lol)
When my son was born he had a common medical condition where part of the condition is that they only develop half a foreskin..... When the midwife/paed explained this condition we were shocked .... but it was easily treatable :)
We took my son for his circumcision appt to be told it would be done at 6 months old under general aneth. and they would also fix the curve.....
We really had no choice in the matter as if we did not fix it , he would definately be different
it was traumatic for us all, but not the circumcism, the actual condition my son had/ and his hospital stay.....
Since we have had no problems and he looks just like his Dad
my son wont be dropping his pants around other boys anyway... These days kids dont change in front of there friends anyway im told....
And we were suprised by the many reasons people are so pro circumcision , there is alot of information out there... Reduces STD's, cervical cancer in women(for there future partners) UTI's and other cleaning problems little boys can have...
I say its your choice and certainly a personal one, thanks for letting me share too :)
hi everyone..
i am pregnant at the moment with a boy and have a 15 year old boy as well, my son is circ and my personal experience from it, was my son felt the inital pain of the needle and then nothing, i had a great doc who done it and i am happy i did. He has not had any bad experiences by having it done even when older, he thinks nothing of it.
as someone said before it really is a personal choice, i chose to get my son done because of hygeine (plus i live in nth qld )and other reasons.. my mate at the time had a 8 year old who suffered from infections because he didnt clean properly etc,
when i made the decision it was a hard one , i did not want him in pain from it etc, but i am happy with my decision and now i have the big decision of whether i choose to get my new boy done.
it really is a hard decision.. so i say just do your research and look around for a great doc ..
all the best jo
Was debating whether to look at your pics rory but couldn't make myself lol.
I have 2 boys and neither are circumcised. My DF, my EH, my dad and my 2 brothers aren't either so it was never an issue for me. I have friends who have decided to do it but that is their decision. I don't think either way will matter in this day and age. It is a personal choice.
I have never seen a baby strapped down like that before (only in America) and if he is anaesthetised, I bet you that's far more distressing than the actual circumcision. Finding decent information about circumcision is really hard. Most of the stuff on the internet is opinion based to one extreme or the other, and each have their own propaganda. Finding something that comes from a neutral stand-point is almost impossible. It's a really polarised area of opinion.
I agree that it's a personal choice. I personally don't see circumcision as being any different to vaccination, both are done in the name of preventative measures, and each should be decided based upon individual risk/benefits and values. The WHO have research that says there are health benefits, and a lot of medical bodies have changed their policies regarding circumcision from "closed" to more "open" language, saying it's the parent's choice because there really isn't a definitive answer despite the extremes in opinion.
This is an issue that we are currently struggling with ourselves. We have a history of autism and yeast over-growth in our family. The risks of DS getting an infection and/or not having the capacity to clean properly are much higher than average on both counts - we can't stick our heads in the sand, but have to take this into account. I believe it will be far more traumatising getting it done later, then just after he's born. It's something we are going to have to decide soon as I'm 38 weeks, and if we are going to get it done, we'll get it done within the first 2 weeks when the foreskin is thinest and healing is at maximum. At this time, I still conflicted and in the end we'll just go with our guts. My DH isn't done, but thinks it's important to be the same as his sons, as children get their identities from home and are far more likely to see dad's penis when going to the toilet or having a shower than they are other males. So if we do get it done, DH has decided he will go get done to as an adult as well (because he would never do something to his children, he wouldn't be prepared to do himself) - so you can see, it's not a decision we take lightly. But it is a personal decision, and its relative.
OP - I don't think it would be too hard to find a doctor in Sydney who will do it, you'll just have to ring around and investigate what method you want it done by - there's loose, low, high, tight depending on whether they take just the outside foreskin, or both outside and inner foreskin. Whether the doctor uses the clamp or plastibell or other method etc. would also dictate which type you get. I think most adult men who were done as babies have a high and tight (you'd be able to tell this on your partner by where the slight colour change is on the shaft - it's normally about half way up). I know the Jewish people normally go for a low and tight, so the skin taken is only enough to reveal the glands. As you can see, there are a number of different options...
My sis has 2 young boys & neither are circumcised, I think it's more uncommon to circumcise these days. If our bub had been a boy we would have had him circumcised. DH was taught all the right things, did the right things etc as a boy & needed to be circumcised at 8 yrs old because he got a bad infection that wouldn't clear up, he remembers it being very painful. So DH would like any sons we have done. I don't have a prob with it, I've done my research. I don't think they would be the odd one out either way. Do what you think is best for your little boy :)
i didnt get my son done coz his dad isnt and has never had an issue but my little half brother was because his half brother had issues at around 8 and had to get it done as it didnt grow properly so they didnt want to risk it happening again at the end of the day its ur choice so good luck with watever u decide
i don't have any boys but i do have 3 brothers (all circumcised) and i know my one of my brothers (now 17) did get teased in primary school at swimming in the change rooms for having a "different doodle" initially he was upset but mum and my stepfather talked to him and he didn't care what the other boys said anymore. I say do what you feel is right :) BTW congrats on your pregnancy :D
Circumcision is a very personal choice we had DS done because DH is and so is the whole family. we found our doctors to be extremly helpful and great. they did NOT cut DS it is a new technique and once i went in and spoke to them about it and they showed me exactly how it would be done we were very much happy with our choice to hvae him done.
good luck in choosing and just remember it is a personal choice and you and your DH have to make it noone else.
Thanks to everyone for being so supportive. I tried to ask my question on another forum and it was locked in minutes.
I'm a little surprised that circumcision is not more common. The impression DH gave me was that everyone did it and that DS would definitely be the odd one out. I don't have any Australian friends here to ask though though.
One of my best friends is American and she said definitely to do it. She wanted to but couldn't in the UK and they are waiting for when they go back to the US. I guess we will have to do the circumcision in Auz.
I'd like to email one of the mums who offered to PM me her experience but it says I don't have enough 'privileges'. How do I get these? Do you have to pay?
Thanks again,
Alex
i am more than happy to offer you some links and number and my experiance on the whole thing ashwilson061123@gmail.com. My name is Sam and i have a little boy 2 Hayden.
Alexmoving - you need to be a member to use PM functions, so will have to stick around and post some more before you get there
Please take care when posting email addresses - it is an open invitation to spammers.
Hi again Alexmoving!
Interesting that your DH is an Aussie and wants it performed as it was the done thing here in Aus a generation ago. My DH is from the UK and so there was never any doubt that we would be leaving his "Christmas Wrapper" on as it was the opposite to here and not the done thing in the UK (so my DH tells me....)
I dont think the 'look' of a penis is a good enough reason to do it. Do heaps of research before making the choice. Since thinking both my girls wouldbe boys I have done my research and decided I wouldn't do it. I found no valid reasons. Now I hear of boys getting it done later on for health reasons, which is interesting!
I'm getting sick of deleting posts in this thread. The OP has not asked for links or videos. She has requested that people refrain from debating. Ask yourself if the post you are about to do would be appropriate if the situation was a little different ie a woman deciding not to vaccinate. If the answer is no please step away from the keyboard.
Sorry That was me! I ummed and ahhed about posting and thought I had actually posted it in a non debating way???? So sorry OP Good luck with your descion but PLEASE research both sides :hug: x
Our reason for circumsicion was slightly for religious reasons, plus DH wanted it done. I hadn't researched anything before DH booked the op (I tried, and cried to DH about it!). I think DS is the only boy in my MG to be done, so I guess that makes him the 'odd one out' but I don't regret the decision now. Since having it done though I have had a couple of friends ask me information about it, so they could get their boys done too. DS is none the wiser, but should he ever be questioned at school, then I will be more than happy to explain to him the reasons we chose to do it. I really hope it isn't something he will be teased about....kinda like the kid with big ears I guess, but kids can be cruel.