marcellus, you have a very handsome little man there!
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marcellus, you have a very handsome little man there!
A real quickie for Kelly, sorry, I nust have been posting at the same time as you today, so didn't realise you had made that plea for help. I went and looked at one of those development bibles and your symptoms described teething to a tee. It's very early, but not unheard of but sounds very likely doesn't it?
As for your wind drops, I went to get them and then thought of the more natural gripe water (it even has "natural" on the label and then lists the chemical breakdown on the back..what the? I think I got a dodgy brand cashing in on the old gripe water that my mum used to use.
okay i should be doing the vacuuming but... :shakehead:
murph, i also give Ash infant's friend and he likes it. It certainly helped with his burpy wind and a bit with the bowel wind but the ABs have really interfered with the fart/poo thing. But it does smell lovely (i think) ingredients are: Cassia Oil 0.041ml ; Magnesium Carbonate 2.22g; Ammonium Bicarbonate 0.10ml; Dill Oil 0.012ml; Anise Oil 0.026ml .
If you have no luck with the non crap gripe might be worth a shot.
marcellus - what a cutie! I love him in his snazzy little car lol.
oh Smithy - i know exactly what you mean about the time flying! hope Charlie's feeding starts to settle down a bit for you :) ox
kahlan -lol. i was like that this morn "ash, go to sleep so i can wash nappies, vacuum, tidy up, get dinner sorted, rah, rah rah". Instead he went to sleep and i got on belly belly (in my defence i did wash his nappies!).
neptune - yayay I did my first 2 runs this week. Ouchy on my belly! Been a bit slack with my core and pelvic exercises so this rainy day that is my work out. But nowhere near my 10km runs i was doing! I jogged on the way home from the post office with Ash and our lovely 'running' pram. Very surprised i didn't tip the child onto the road - those 3-wheelers can be tricky for uncoordinated people. lol. And then DH played with ash yesterday and i did about 2.5km. I was pretty happy with that considering it's been sooo long since i've run. But could feel my floppy bum trailing about 200m behind me heeheee. Are you back in the swing of things? how do you manage with bubba?
kellyD- sorry can't help you love but hope Tara starts to feel better soon love. and i'd love to hear if it is teething - so i can note it down lol. Our MCHN said Ash might teeth very early as his teeth buds are "very prominent already" eek! you can see his little teeth already, they are right there! oh deary deary deary me.
BG - boo hiss to AF! what a cow! i was NOT happy to read your post. But we are the same. we'll leave it to fate... although are using condoms til probably August as we are probably getting posted in December (i'd be my luck i'd fall and be due right on the moving date lol).
Hi Lenny! and Poppy - good on you gurlfriend!
I'd love to hear about everyone's thoughts about subsequent children. Going back for full cycles? Using frosties? Calling it quits (well, you have got perfection there already)? Living on an au natural prayer?
Personally, we'll leave it to fate for awhile and then in a couple of years go and use our 2 frosties. If nothing comes of all that, I seriously doubt we'll pursue IVF further. We got our dream already, so can't be greedy about these things lol.
Oh and flat head discussion a little while ago... spoke to MCHN about Ash's very lopsided head and i''ve been told to get more tummy time in and try to force him to turn his head the other way in the cot. So we've turned his bassinette around and put a little toy on the side for him to look at. Also at play time i make him turn his head the other way. He had such a lovely round head when he was born :( hopefully we can correct it...
SEVEN WEEKS TODAY! it's flying.
kelly - the teething thing can start very early - doesn't mean you'll get teeth that early! E had teethin symptoms from 3 months - really badly off and on. it started in august and she got her first tooth 10 days ago (with no sign it was coming til she bit my hand!) and her second this week! the little suckers can start moving and threaten to come through but never make an appearance. my poor niece had it from 5-13months!
Grub - i'm ALMOST ok with AF being here. in a way it's actually a little comforting to have AF visit and have a short gap (only 6 weeks) - given, before we started AC, i had between 4 and nine months between her visits, i think it's a good thing for me that she is visiting more regularly. unexpected so soon after E's arrival, but i'm actually kinda happy she is behaving for now. it means if we do decide to actively TTC at any point, i may actually have more of an idea what my body is doing...
Hi all
Grub - Well done girl on the running! I hear you about the bum flapping thing, I've solved that by investing in a running skirt! It has tight lycra type shorts underneath and it just holds everything in and covers the lumps. Makes me feel heaps more confident and motivated to get out there. I haven't run with Adam as yet, but will be trying that this week. My DH works a set shift roster for the month so it works really well; I just look ahead for the week and run when he's home and not sleeping. I figured it was better to try and get some semblance of fitness before running with Adam, but I'm keen to see how he likes it.
Update re flat head! Saw the MCHN yesterday and she reassured me greatly. She said that his head was not too bad and will sort itself out once he's moving/rolling/crawling. She checked for any muscle shortening on the affected side but that was fine. Basically tummy time tummy time tummy time! She said if he gets upset (which he does) pick him up and distract him, then do some more. I put a mirror in front of him so now he does seem to be enjoying it more. Also to encourage him to roll back to front as once he is able to do this, tummy time takes on a whole new level. Also, she suggested that if holding him sitting on your lap, get DH to talk to him from the side he doesn't like to turn, so that he turns his head that way. Just little things I guess that may help.
Re the 'more babies' issue; after all the trouble we have had, we are just going to leave it to fate. WE do have one frostie so we will use that at some stage but I am quite adamant that I won't be doing IVF again. We feel very very blessed with our little cherub and I am just happy.
Well my red cheeked girl seemed to sleep much better last night, but it seems like we are in for the long haul with this teething thing. I suppose it doesn't help that she is also going through a clingy stage as well... Can't even go shopping and put her in the pram as she cracks it because she can't see me..
As for us and having a second, we are just going to see what happens at the moment. If we get a natural miracle then that would be a bonus, if not we are planning on doing our next FET in Jan 2011. We are probably fortunate that we still have 3 day 3 and 5 day 5's in the freezer (although this guarantees nothing) but if non of these work then I doubt I could/would go through IVF again, mainly due to the cost as I am planning on being a SAHM at least until Tara starts school. To afford to do the cycles to get Tara we actaully sold our house in Melb and moved to the country where housing was cheaper and IVF was cheaper and had some money to put towards the costs. So many things to consider and I know DH would love 2 children but sometimes you just need to look at what we have and feel blessed.
Another little teething monster here. Either that or he's coming down with something. He CRIED when I left him at daycare today, was absolutely heartbreaking and I feel like an awful, awful mother. But I just rang to check on him recently - they said he's much happier, however he is quite clammy so they have him just about undressed. I do hope he's not getting sick!
As for subsequent children... Surprise miracles are completely off the agenda here. Not only is it pretty impossible with both my infertility and DH's infertility, but I needed three different drugs to stay pregnant and I'm not on any of them now. I'm also on heavy-duty drugs for my arthritis which are category X, so even though we're both essentially infertile, my specialist has insisted that I'm on the pill while I take it. We have two frosties, and I can see us using them eventually, but not for another year at least. Further stim cycles are completely off the agenda as well. I have had OHSS very badly twice, and I'm not going to take that risk when I've got a child to care for. Considering our defrost statistics (only 4 of 11 blasts) and miscarriage rates, I honestly think Sam will be an only child - but that's ok because he's more than we thought we'd ever have!
At work today... supposed to be working, so best get back to it.
BW
Love the new avvy BW!
More babies... well I was pretty cool about it all to begin with. Figured, what would happen, would happen. We never used contraception, but didn't get my cycles back till DS was 16.5 months anyway. Sometimes I wanted a baby, other times I thought, nah, this is good. I thought I'd resigned myself to just one, if that was what happened, but I really really want a baby now. We've been ttcing, with no real expectation of success (and yet, I hope every cycle - well you all know how that is I'm sure).
I just made a day-21 apt. So maybe next month....
We have 6 in the freezer and are hopeful there's a baby in there. I don't know about a full cycle, but then again I don't know if I could say never just yet.
kelly: sounds like the early stages of teething, drool, yukky poos, red face sometimes, bad moods, crying a lot and wanting to be held, and then theres the baby too. LOL
teething can be horrible, but bonjela and teething rings are good. good luck and hope it isn't teething this soon but it is possible.
i love reading these posts, it brings back so many memories and hoping for some more soon. just need to get preg first.
good luck to everyone.
loving the new avvy BW - looking HOT hun!
Thank you. Or thank Bathsheba. :) Note how I'm all dressed up for work, and the calculator in hand... Now, should probably dress that smartly for school every day, and I can't yell at the kids yet for not having their caculators because I still can't find mine!
Well... Feeling like an awful mother right now. When I dropped Sam off this morning he was pretty upset. But I called at 9:30 and he was a lot happier. Then daycare rang me and my heart just sank. But I had to be on playground duty so I asked them to give him some panadol and I'd call them back again in half an hour. The panadol helped, so I managed to finish the work day. Now I've got a freshly washed and probably not at all sleepy all wrapped up and snuggling on my lap. He's had some nurofen, I've sucked all the snot I can out of his nose, given him a bath and a dose of brauers recovery tonic... So now we wait for daddy to get home and hope he feels a lot better very soon. It's like he's feverish, but the daycare centre took his temp and got 37. Even taking into account that Sam's like me and runs a little colder, it's just not all that high. Hopefully it's just teething combined with a revoltingly humid day and wanting mum. Or dad - he's starting to go to DH to fix ouchies and me for his snuggly night-time bottle. :)
BW
Poor little tyke. Hope he's feeling better soon.
I do know how you feel - it's bad enough when they're still adjusting, but to know they're sick also... At least your daycare called you about it. A had a bit of a temperature one day and they didnt' even tell me till pickup time! And he was sick - out of action for the next week and a half.
that's really intersting regarding going back for more. it sounds like we are all pretty much on the same wave length - just grateful for what we've got and pretty accepting of whatever the future holds (more bubs or not).
haaha JBM that made me laugh. :) looks like you are starting again soon love. fingers crossed :)
neptune - oh i saw those skirts. i'm wearing 3/4 tights to hide the hideousness of my thighs. I have all the sudden inherited my mother's asre and thunder thighs... woe is me. Ash loves the pram, i've been walking with him since he was about 3 weeks old. we were going every arvo (before this crap weather arrived) after his 5/6pm feed and before bed. Then bath and another feed and he'd zonk out... processing all that he saw, smelt and heard i imagine lol. But i do have a really good treadmill at home so have been using that as well but love running outside so much more.
bw - poor darlin! hope he feels better soon. But it really warmed my heart when you said about your little man going to daddy for ouchies. lol. My DH hasn't been as engaged with Ash as i'd liked... he does the nappies and changes and baths but not a lot of talking and cuddling etc.. But in the past few days that's changed and Ash is responding better. I think it can be hard on the blokes so can't wait for Ash to grow a bit more and become more responsive.
kellyd - that doesn't sound liek fun re the teething. and wow wee about all those frosties! certainly you'd think the odds would be in your favour.
hi marcellus; BG; Murph; Kahlan; Smithy; Lenny and Poppy! :) and of course anyone i've missed!
by the looks of the Pg thread we should be getting some new recruits soon :)
AFM - Ash is still getting terrible belly pains and lots of very runny poos. damn ABs. I get half a boob emptied and the first milk starts causing trouble so finishing the boob can be a battle. but we just go boob, dummy, boob, dummy etc until he gets 'drunk' - Ash full; Nappy full lol.
I managed my first dreamfeed the other night. Found he had to be a little awake or he just lays there like a lump lol. Tried again last night when i heard him starting to stir and it was like he was laying a trap of me.. the minute i touched him the eyes were open and i was caught!
but on the up side we are getting more playtime in as although he gets belly ache he can manage with the dummy and some rubs from me and it comes in waves so we just incorporate into our play.
Neptune: in the just 2 days since we've enacted Operation Round Head, i can see an improvement in Ash. We are doing tummy time every time he's awake (you should see his head control lol) otherwise i make sure his head is turned to the right (flat head on the left) when playing etc. I also go and turn his head in the basinette while he's sleeping.
Hope you all have a great weekend ox
hello to all you bautiful mummys ,hope you all have a really nice weekend.
I can't believe i'm finally here :leap: (even if it's a tired one)
It's one week home for Lincoln and I and I'm so happy to be in my own bed with DH big strong arms to cuddle me when I'm crying or just exhausted.
I don't know what your hospital experiences were like but mine was questionable. The Mids were below average and this was private, next time I'm going public. I got very little help around BF exept from the lactation consultant who is a gem.
I lost it with one mid and she really deserved it, I was crying on my bed and she didn't even ask if I was ok, I then got a senior mid who was wonderful.
Geeze you read about hormones but really until you get them you can't prepare.
How are you going grub? things going well for you and your bundle of joy?
How bout you smithy? settled? or at least on the way? what a wonderful shock parenting is at least for me and DH.
DH is father 2nd time around but worked 3 jobs with the others so this time he's like a new dad, it's so cool for us to learn together.
Well bubs has been sleeping for 2.5 hours I keep anticipating a little squeak and then action stations.
Have a great weekend.
Welcome Green!
Most of the middies I saw were great, but a couple were not so nice and definately hit and miss with breastfeeding - only the LCs will do really.
Hope you're all having a good weekend
Welcome Green!!!! Congrats on the birth of Lincoln. I'm sorry you had a not so great time at hospital. It's a time when you feel so out of whack and have no idea what you re doing, and they really should be sensitive to that. The hormones really play havoc with your emotions, I remember the 1st two weeks as a general feeling of shock and lack of confidence mixed in with wanting to do anything to protect this tiny being. So hang in there love, it just gets better every day!
Grub - excellent effort on the running, that is fantastic. I felt really weird around the core/pelvis area so it's a good idea to strengthen there as well. I think Adam's head is getting slightly better, but I'm too scared to re-position him when he's sleeping, I'm trying to get some study done and don't want to wake him. I'm being VERY naughty and propping him very slightly on his side with a rolled up towel during the day, so that he is laying on the non-flat side. I think it's jsut giving his flat side a break. And now I think because of this, he is starting to turn it the non-flat side of his own volition which is fantastic. Sounds like you are doing a great preventative job!
BW - I hope your little one is okay!
Hello to Smithy, Briggsy's Girl, Marcellus, Lenny, KellyD, Kahlan, Murph and anyone I have missed. I hope you are all having a great weekend.
All is well in my house!:D
Well... we have a sick little boy here. Mainly just a snotty nose, but it seems he's got a sore throat as well. He had a massive spew after his last bottle as well, but he'd chugged it down pretty fast - I'm just hoping it won't get worse than the snotty nose! So, he's been smothered in baby balsam and is breathing a bit easier now (he came in with us last night and it was like trying to sleep next to darth vader). He's having brauer's childrens recovery tonic at regular intervals and panadol or nurofen when needed. Poor thing! Despite all that, he's still his happy, laughy self most of the time which makes things a little easier. Only issue now is that it seems DH and I are probably getting it too. Dammit.
BW
Very sorry to hear that BW. :cold:
Big hugs to you and your family and hope you feel better soon.
Aww no BW. hope it clears up soon
''mummy... i am your son''! oh BW that sounds horrid. I hope he starts to feel better soon and same for your DH. Better hit your vitamins love so you don't cop it to!
neptune - i was scared about turning ash's head but he doesn't wake. its extremely surprising actually as sometimes he seems to wake when i just walk in the room to check him. But i had to laugh... we are going to all this effort and you just KNOW the little horrors are going to decide their non-flat side is preferable and then we'll have to reverse our hard work lol. Oh and I did a 3.5ker yesterday :) a long way off my 10km runs i was doing pre-EPU but i'm pretty stoked after so long out of it!
oh Green - so glad you are here. but i'm sorry your hosp experience was ruined by slackness :( I would mention it to your Obstetrician when you go back in a few weeks. they usually like to know. and i had to laugh - about action stations, i know exactly what you mean!
Oh i'm a bad bad mummy. Was attempting to trim Ash's fingernails and I cut him (this is the 2nd time i've done this) and it bled lots (must be a bleedy spot). Ash screamed, I cried. But after a few mins it didn't seem to bother him. Still feel awful. As bad as I felt when i laid his head on a snappy, claw side up and then jostled his belly asking "why are you screaming darling'' DOH! this is gong to be one tough kid.
:)
have a lovely sunday... ooh rainy sunday :)
Grub: I'm so scared of doing the same thing to Lincolns hands and feet but his nails are starting to be razor sharp. I put mittons on him but he gets them off. He is very strong willed (wonder were he gets that from ;) ) Will do on the OB and letting her know.
Neptune your bubba is so cute well done.
BW sorry to hear you have a sick boy. I'm so parinoid of sick baby but I know it will happen.
marcellus thank you for the welcome.
Ok Baby is now sleeping :bluecheer: we had a horrid night, he woke up with wind just screaming and when I latched him on, OMG no teeth yet but ouch! Then after 10ish sucks he's asleep. I know we all want our babies to sleep but not while feeding. I've tried unwrapping him, tickles, kisses, switching sides and even a flannel (still feel mean about that one) but he sleeps! I'm going to talk to the nurse about it. After all my hard work at getting my supply up now he's sleepy What the?
It's so strange that before bubs I never wanted to BF but now I feel like I should. But when it doesn't work so well I feel like the worst mum in the world. DH is a great support but without the equipment I guess that's limited to nappie changes and feet tickling (lincolns not mine :D)
Everyone says at 6 weeks BF and sleep patterns settle, hmmm only 4 to go I guess
BW: poor little man, hope he gets better for you soon. DO you think it is going to be bad enough for him not to get to CC so you can go to work??
Grub: I think we have all cut our bubs when doing nails at some time, well I know I have. They are just "slippery little suckers". As for the 8 frosties, we are hoping that we have a goodie in there but we used up 7 just to get Tara.
Green: Welcome, Tara was also a very lazy feeder to start with and probably only in the last 4 weeks or so has she shown she can finish a feed in 10-15 minutes no the 1-1 1/2 she used to take. Best advise is to try and get some rest in those down times as a slow feeding baby that feeds every 3 hours doesn't leave much time to get good sleep.
Have a good sunday everyone, we are in for a very warm and sunny day here.
I did that too Grub. :redface: Don't worry, they forget all about these little mistakes
HI ladies!
Sorry but persies are going to be short and sparse. Excuse - fussy baby!!!!
Green - I hope the breastfeeding settles down after 6 weeks! We are still cluster feeding and if not doing that we are feeding at most hourly. I don't know who these babies are that feed every two hours but mine doesn't!!! Two hours would be a luxury for me! I do however usually get three hour blocks of sleep through the night so I cannot complain too much. Although last night he was very fussy before going down and woke up two hourly through the night. Hope this is a one night phenomenom!
BW - hope bubs is better soon and you and DH don't get it too
Grub - well done on the exercise. Running to have a shower or go to the toilet in the five minute breaks I get from holding bubs is the only exercise I am getting now.
AFM - attaching still sort of a problem. Don't know if I am doing it right but on his fave boob 9 times out of 10 he gets on in a way that doesn't hurt and on the 'cr*p' boob he gets on without hurting about 5-6 times out of 10. Now I am worried that my boobs are slow flow because he is on for sooooo long and wants it soooo often. We tried pumping last night and today and I don't know if it is because we have a rubbish manual pump but we only got 30 ml even after DH's vigorous pumping!!! He is putting on weight so he is getting enough but it is just turning into a trial getting it to him!!! Some days I love breastfeeding and other days I just want to cry and I feel a failure. One nurse at the hospital said it looked like he had a bit of a tongue tie but said they don't often correct it unless they are losing weight. I need to see my original midwife but I have been discharged from her. I am a little scared of the LC who told me off last time but it might have to be her I see about it.
As for the settling, we are getting more and more minutes where we do not have to hold or carry him. He enjoys his bouncer for about 20 minutes which is a lifetime compared to the early days! We use the sling at home when he won't settle and we need to do stuff. I feel bad because I am pro gentle parenting and always planned to hod and carry but I fee guilty when the health visitor makes the whole 'rod for your back' comments. We are co-sleeping all the time now. I have given up the drama of the mosesbasket. I just need to be less influenced by people who do not share my philosophy! Very hard when you are vulnerable and tired though!!
Poppy - please don't see the amount you're expressing as any reflection on how much milk your baby is actually getting - expressing just isn't as effective as bub feeding - when you're feeding, you have the emotions of bubba being there, so you will let down etc where a lot of people have a minimal let down (if any) on the pump. even now, there are times when i struggle to get more than 20-30ml expressing - can completely drain my breasts according to the pump, but DD will get a full feed straight after...
must run - bbl - bub awake!
Poppyfairy :hug: i feel your pain, I was pumping like no tomorrow for a week and only getting 10-30mls but not for 30mins I did 5 on each side twice. No more pumping for me for now. I'm getting bubs weighted tomorrow and if he's putting on weight I'm putting the pump away. Do you have a lactation consultant? if not phone the hospital and get in touch with one, mine is a legend and the only reason I'm still going. Glad you're doing what works for you.
KellyD thanks for the ray of hope. Lincoln fed well for 90mins last night without falling asleep I was over the moon he still got back up in 1.5hours but I felt like his belly was full. Then back to sleepy feeding. When I can no longer wake him I just let him sleep.
ATM feeling confident with a good feed last night. I seam to be full of milk thanks to frequent feeding and bubs is feeding better. He has a fav boob too :lol: same one as DH. He can finish a feed in 15 on that side but the other I don't really ever feel like he finishes.
Back to the lactation nurse tomorrow for a weigh lets hope he's over his birth weight and I can forget the pump and top ups for good. I HATE PUMPING! Cuts into sleep and life and I feel like a dairy cow.
:hug::hug: poppy and green big hugs as i could not do that so i take my hat off for trying ,my little cherib is on the bottle and has been from day dot so 10 points for trying girls.
have a great day all.
oh poppy! your bub is putting on weight and i assume bright and happy. so bbllaahh to anyone who boo-hoos what you are doing. You do what is right for YOU and YOUR baby not what suits someone who has no connection to your life or circumstances. And i also had a moment several weeks ago where i thought "oh he's upset because i have slow flow and not enough milk'' ... so i pumped to "see how much was there''. Got 40mls and was very worried. But the next day found bub had put on about 500g in 2 weeks and just put that worry aside.
You could not possibly do anything more to increase your supply! oh maybe some regular skin-to-skin if you are worried. As for attachment, for us every time isn't perfect but i make sure to take him off. I figure if it doesn't hurt and he's getting fed then we got it right!
I really found it was helpful to stop watching the clock on how long the actual feeds last (kellyd) because Ash is putting on weight like a buddha but his standard feed is 5-10mins to drain a boob! i was told this wasn't enough but it obviously is for him.
I did another successful dream feed last night... so ash slept for 8 hrs! only they weren't the 8 hrs i wanted to sleep doh! from 7pm to 3am :) with the dreamfeed at 9.30pm. Then he had lots of belly pain at 3am and didn't really got to sleep until 5am.. then up again for more food at 6am! bbrrhh. He's laying in his bassinette whinging now. so best go and see wht the fuss is about.
hope you are all well. And you are doing an amazing job! look how far you've come in the past year... and when i am low i try to think of the positives - putting on weight, happy, gorgeous etc. No one lese knows our bubs like us!
bbl oxox
Poppy - you're doing fantastically! If you still need help with breastfeeding, I hope you can find a different LC (there must be more than one around...) because that one you saw sounds pretty ordinary.
As for the tongue tie - they said the same thing about A and we had real problems till he was 11 weeks old. I would strongly suggest you find a doc who will get it done for you. I wish I had.
I would forget about pumping at this stage unless you really need to do it - 30mls is actually a pretty decent result, but it's not worth the effort :hug:
All the best for your weigh in too Green!
And hi everyone else
Just a quickie. It's been a rough couple of days, but just par for the course. I actualy think I have solved the problem of what is making Jazz crook, dehydrated and green poo and sore red bum this week...chilli sauce. It's a theory but I think a possibility, and it makes sense. Now I've heard that anything warm fo us is ten times warmer for them...ahhh, curses, now a fatwa on pad tai!!! Today's been brilliant though...and coincidence or not, no chilli sauce for two days and she is perfectly healthy.
Grub...me too, me too. Not the nails, but that won't be long. I didn the snappy thing on the change table..too funny, you did the same asking what was wrong. Ouch, what a scream hey? Doh! I also managed to get the side of teh box of wipes imprinted on her forehead when I slid her past it??? Bad mummies aren't we. Oh and I tried the gripe water again, figuring the novelty factor had passed so she may tolerate it. Oh my goodness, I can't tellyou what her reaction was like. sometimes you just have to listen to your individual little person and this one screamed and cried, vomited and spluttered..I made DH get rid of it so I can never do it to her again and then i nearly cried.
Poppyfairy, I have been following you and I feel that my situation closely resembled yours at first. I never knew when one feed started and the other one ended, they were round the clock. Not quite your 24 hour efforts, but I'd say al ot of that is comforting as well as feeding. You sound like you are doing everything right and once you get the hang of it, you will know yourself better than anybody. People may give you advice, or dumb comments, but you don't have to take it. that rod for your back thing...well that's just somebody's opinion and if you agree that's okay. My husband and I personally agree with the line we were given, that you can't spoil a baby at this stage, they are all about needs and not manipulation. We keep that at the forefront in making decisions..you can't spoil them too much at this stage. It can still be frustrating and time-consuming and you feel a bit tethered like a milking cow, but it's our job at the moment and it won't last forever. Hope you get a bit more support from helpful quarters. Midwives come in all shapes and sizes just like anyone and you won't always agree with everyone. I had, oh roughly about 500 and I only wanted to punch out about half of them...and I am a very peace loving individual:o
Better go, the lovely man jagged an interview for Kangaroo island and now has to work on a presentation for the trip down on Friday.
BBL xoxo
Hi Everyone
Just a quickie from me, wanted to let you all know that Tara achieved her first unassisted back to tummy roll today :clap:. She hasn't quite worked out how to get back again but still a major milestone at almost 4 months.
Anyway off to Mothers Group tomorrow and then Tara has her weigh in, will be so interesting to see how much she has grown in a month. Also this is scary but I have had to start putting her into size 0 all in one sleep suits, her legs and feet are getting to big for the 00's already. Fortunately all her other 00 stuff will last for a while (hopefully) as most of it is summer stuff and are tops and pants or dresses, but it made me sad to think my baby is getting so big so fast and when I see all the little babies at Mothers Group it makes you realise how fast they grow.
wow kelly!!! that's wonderful. I can't wait for ash's first big "he did it!" lol. you must have been sssooo excited.
murph - poor jazzy. hope you got it right with the chilli sauce.
Just home from my mothers' group... they are all really lovely and i enjoy it so much.
Ash is not having a good few days. having trouble feeding again and a few green poos. not sure if its the ABs or something else. feeding is a battle... it's like the wind pain and fussing a few weeks ago. He feeds for a few mins then pulls off screaming,, then back on, then off etc. Anyhoo i managed to get him on for a decent feed buy reclining on the lounge and having him straddle my leg iykwim while patting his butt.
but he's still got plenty of wet nappies and most of his poos are normal so just feel a little confused. just have to persevere i suppose.
but on the positive he slept from 8pm to 4am last night!!! :clap: Not sure if it was cos he was extremely unhapy and unsettled all day that he just konked out after our shower hmmm
What are your bedtime routines? Do you shower/bath bub before or after the feed? Read stories? What time to do do that? When do you put bub 'down for the night'? and What time do you start your day?
sorry lots of questions just wondering. WE put Ash down 'for the night' anywhere from 6.30pm to 10pm - we save his bath for the night and quietly read him books just before bed. But can't say we really have a strict 'routine' (he is only 7 weeks). Would like to get an idea of what others are doing and at what age/stage.
not sure if that makes sense.
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Sounds like you're on top of things grub! I know ABs did awful things to A's stomach - hope it settes down soon.
We didn't have a routine at that age - just whatever we could manage. Things started to settle down from 12-ish weeks, but that routine didn't last long - only till the next unsettled phase. Some people find routines are great, but honestly they've never done us much good. I guess we have patterns, where we tend to do things in a certain order, but that's about as far as it goes.
What a strong little girl Kelly:clap:
Damn, no chilli sauce?! But it's good if you can find an easy fix like that.
Hi Grub
We sort of have a night time routine, but I'm a bad mum and we only do bath's every second night and wash hair, mainly because we use the big bath...
On bath night, Tara will have half a feed about 7pm then has a bath and a play in the water (she loves bath time) then into p.j's and has the rest of her bottle and she is generally in bed between 8-8.30pm.
On the other night, we do pretty much the same but instead of a bath we generally have a play with her on the floor until she shows her tired signs and then into p.j's and bed.
She tells us when she is tired and is pretty consistent with her bedtime, as when we put her into bed she will take her dummy and within 5 minutes she is crashed, dummy is then spat out about 30 mins later.
She generally wakes about 6am and we go and put her dummy in and she will sleep until about 7-7.30am and then nappy change and into the big bed where she might have a bit more of a play and then she goes back to sleep again (without an early feed). Then depending on what time she wakes up (this depends on how long she plays for in the morning sometime 10 minutes, somtimes 40) so anytime between 9-10am she has her first bottle and our day together starts. This is great for me as I get a chance to do everything in the morning and leaves the day for us together.
But remember every baby is different and Tara was sleeping through at 8 weeks and also has 3 large feeds a day (240mls each feed) so she happily sleeps for longer, where some babies still wake for a feed during the night. Just keep doing what you are doing as Ash seems to be adapting and it won't take him long to start to get into the swing of it and will be letting you know when bedtime is.
Kelly - that is great, well done Tara! Adam is not quite there yet, just getting onto to his side and staying there for a while - when I see him doing this, I flip him over so that he knows how it feels!
Grub - I didn't worry about routines with Adam, just went on trying to read all his signs,demand feeding etc. But pretty much at the 12 week mark, he seemed to decide on his own routine which was down for the night between 7pm and 8pm, and 5 feeds during the day (7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm and 7pm). so i have fitted in with he what he wants, and at night time at 7pm, I pop him in the bath, put his pj's on and give him his last bottle, then straight in bed. He also has a little sea-horse/night light thing that plays soft music and glows when you press his tummy, and this has turned into a real sleep cue for him. It works for day-time naps too!
This does vary a bit depending on the day and if anything has thrown the routine, but he gets back on track pretty well. I went back to my running club training night last night, and got home at 8pm to find DH and Adam asleep on the couch, a lonely, full milk bottle sitting on the coffee table grrrrrr. So I had to wake Adam up, give him his bottle and then bed, so it was quite late. However, it really doesn't seem to bother Adam too much, and I'm just to darn grateful to DH for letting me have some mummy time that I don't say anything!
At the end of the day, I'm using this 'routine' that Adam has set as a guide, and don't get bogged down if the plan doesn't work. That way there is far less stress and pressure on me, and I am trying to just go with the flow.
It sounds like you are doing a fabulous job, so just keep on keeping on!
AFM: No major news, Adam doing well, having a big arvo sleep at the mo, and I've started back at uni today......feeling very overwhelmed but hopefully I will feel better once I get my head around tings.
Hi to everyone!!!!!
hi ladies just thought i'd pop in and see how all my old friends are going.
Breast Feeding : talk to a BF consultant if you're having any doubts, i still had to use one with 3rd baby, we're not super women you know.
it is so exciting that all your babies are growing up so fast, and it is so exciting when they learn new things too.
good luck ladies. chat soon
Hi JBM!
Now, this reminds me - For those who haven't done so already, perhaps when you get a bit of time (say, sometime in the next 6-12 months for newbies;)) you could share your success story.
I know LT TTCers (past and present) love to read them
Hi girls
Just a quick one from me.
BG sorry I didn't reply to your very helpful input regarding solids. Unfortunately my diet is very bad, high in salt and fried stuff... if not that it would soupy stuff so not so good for Lyla. But she show such eagerness to eat food that are not mashed that now for dinner I generallty just cut up fruits or steamed vegs for her to munch on. She now recognises (or understand the word water vs food) food from drinks. She loves drinking but doesn't like certain food and I would often have to give her both, alternating so she would continue to eat. The other day DH was feeding her and after a few spoons she clamped her mouth shut and wouldn't have any more. He then said "water" and she automatically opened her mouth for daddy to pop in a spoonful of water. What DH doesn't know was she wouldn't understand conditional sentences so when he said "eat a spoon of this and daddy will give you some water" she opens her mouth expecting water but instead got a spoonful of food. She gave him such a look, which I interpreted to be "what the? Why did you deceive me?" DH got a no no from me.
BW - hope your little one feels better.
Kelly - wow Tara seems like a very strong girl...bet you she would be an early roller, crawler and walker as well.
Grub - no set routine but generally, Lyla would have her bottle at 5 pm, play, dinner at 7 follow by shower and then bed at 8 or 8:30ish with or without a bottle. I generally feed her more often even though I know she would not wake to ask for it, ie I dream feed her at 9 or 10ish pm and then again at 6 am (or else she wouldn't feed until 8 or 9am - if she is awake at 6am she would not feed, outright reject the bottle). She is one of those lazy feeders in the morning. She wouldn't have a decent feed until the afternoon. I would be lucky if she feed her normal full bottle (230ml) before 1pm. I tried once to wait until she ask for her bottle as well as dropping the dream feed at 9pm and she went for 13 hours without a feed. Now that she is eating solid I am not so worried about how much she feeds so I play it by ear...if she feeds well in the morning that I forgo the dreamfeed.
Poppy, I am so very proud of your efforts. I gave up after 3 weeks. I learnt my inability to express milk is not a reflection on my milk supply but by then it was too late, Lyla was so used to the bottle she outright refused to take my boobs. The other day, while playing she accidently pulled down my top and saw my breast. I waited to see what she would do. She leaned down and smell my nipple but other than that had no idea what it is or what it could have been. It made me cry for the wonderful thing we both missed out o, for the what could have been. I just thought, "these boobs could have been her world" but it was not meant to be.
Sorry really have to go to bed now. But just a quick report, Lyla is now walking! For the past 3 days she had attempted to walk around the play pen and cot, supporting herself on whatever she could hold onto, cot rails. Fell a fair few times but just kept at it.
Good night everyone.
Wow Kahlan, how advanced is Lyla both with recognising words and also with her walking. Mmm, I also think Tara is going to be advanced as in those areas as well. My feeling is that these little ones had to work so hard to get here to start with that they must be very strong willed beings.
Was interested to hear about your solids adventure, I started Tara on solids last week just a couple of times to see her reaction and have moved onto giving her solids and 1/2 a normal bottle once a day now. She is getting the hang of it and I know she is ready as when she sees the spoon she has her mouth open ready. I must say (TMI) it has also helped wonders with her BM's as well, they are no longer runny explosions but now have some consistancy to them and we don't seem to have had an upset tummy with adding the solids. To start with I've been giving her rice cereal mixed with formula and also pre prepared food (rafferty's garden and organics) to see how she goes before I start prepping vegies to cook and freeze. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for her to start wanting more solid food.
Anyway off to Mothers Group this morning, but of course little miss has only been asleep for 15 mins so might delay leaving for another 15 to give her a least a 30 minute sleep.