Parenting after LT TTC #4

I need to have a bit of a grumble... and then I'm going to bed - EARLY!

I'm exhausted from work this week. And this is just the setting assessment phase - on Monday the marking begins and I'm so not looking forward to it!

Anyway... I had to do a GTT a couple of weeks ago and finally got to see my GP about the results yesterday. With my first one, my insulin at the 1 hour mark was something like 297, but with the latest one I only got to 220-ish. Still pretty horrendous when you realise that it's not supposed to get above 80!

So it's back to metformin for me. I don't know if many of you had metformin as part of AC, probably just the PCOS girls... But I'm sure if you've had it before you'd know why I'm worried. I took my first tablet tonight - after having pasta for dinner! Could be a rough night ahead! :(

At least if I end up having to take the day off work Sam's at daycare so I can relax in peace and quiet at home - and probably go mad cos I'm not used to being alone any more. Will be a rough night, too - DH will be at church until late so I'm doing dinner, bath and bed solo - and Sam's so set in his ways and there's certain things I have to do and other things that daddy has to do... ugh! I have confidence that we will manage. DH went out briefly last night and I had a bit of a meltdown and when Sam saw the tears he just snuggled up with me. He went from hyperactive psycho chicken to snuggling quietly in an instant because mummy was upset. He's such a sweet little boy - offers to share his dummy with us, and his bottles. :)

BW

oh bw i spit in the face of metformin. you poor thing, i was on it for a few years before we conceived Ash and it really is not that pleasant. sending you a big hug hun. take it easy and what a good boy Sam is! how sweet.

We are off to our first ABA meeting today and despite what my ticker may say, Ash is 12 weeks old today :)

He has settled from the screaming unhappy bub a few weeks back and is sleeping better at night... last night 5pm feed 6pm bed; 8pm feed; 2am feed; 6.30am feed and he's just gone back done again lol. So i definitely think it was wonder week/growth spurt.

kelly d - how was your mum's group the other day?

my mum's group organised by community health is getting together next weds for a St Pat's themed morning tea :) I arranged it but its at another lady's house. I'm so excited because I won't have to spend my birthday alone at home now :) although i'm not telling the ladies it's my bday cos i don't know them very well and jsut feel odd about forcing strangers to wish me a HB.

anyhoo, i have to go and find some green things to make for morning tea hahahhaa

wonder how murph's move is going? well i hope.

and Green how are you love? has linc settle a bit more for you.

hi to everyone :) it's the weekend!

I am in disbelief!!! DS has gone for a nap and has stayed asleep now for 45 minutes!!! I don't know what to do with myself. I keep on going in and checking on him LOL! I lay down with him on the bed and he had a good feed and fell asleep. So for the first time I didn't stay lying beside him but got up and he stayed asleep!!!!! We will get there eventually!!!

Hi Girls

BW: Yucky, I didn't have to take Metaform but there is nothing worse than taking meds that react badly with you.

Poppy: Yay for your little man, hopefully he can have some more big sleeps for you now.

Smithy: :clap: for Charlie and sleeping longer as well. I found once Tara was in her own room she slept better. I think it is because when she was in our room I woke up everytime she made a noise but since being in her own room when she wakes during her sleep cycles I don't hear anything and she then goes back to sleep.

Grub: Only one more pre arranged Mothers Group for us then we are on our own. I'm hoping the concensus is not 10am in the morning like it is now, it really mucks us up as Tara usually has her breakfast around that time and I have to take it all with me.

AFU: Well we are having our unsettled week this week. Night time sleeps are no problem but during the day..... I put her in bed when she is tired and she is now fighting going to sleep, we are having something like half hour screaming matches before she will consisder going to sleep and then she will wake herself up and we start all over again. Although yesterday I went to the hairdresser and for the almost 2 hours we were there she was fine, smiling and laughing at everyone and was more than happy to be held by anyone. So in public she is fine, it is just when she is at home. As I mentioned off to the hairdressers for me finally, the grey's were coming through to obvious and decided to go the chop as well. My hair was fairly long, and I was so sick of all the hair everywhere (i'm still malting) I decided to get it cut up to collar length. Should be much easier to do in the morning now and as my hair grows so fast anyway it will be long again before I know it. Oh, has anyone else been suffering from exhaustion lately (not the sleep deprived variety)?? I've been going to bed around 9.30 at night and crashing (sometimes I don't even hear Tara at night and DH gets up to check on her) and when I wake in the morning I'm still so tired. This has been for the past week to 2 weeks, maybe it is everything catching up on me now.

Kelly- I hope the unsettled week is over soon for you! Is it a Wonder Week?

Smithy - well done on the sleeping!

BW- Metformin Yuck!!!! I was on it for a month or so for my PCOS. It did nothing for the PCOS but I remember the side effects!!! Awful!!!

Murph - hope the move is going well!

AFM - DS slept for an hour on that nap! There are celebrations in our house tonight!!!

Well... not doing too badly. Just one nasty attack this morning, but if you'll excuse the TMI, it has cleared up the nasty issues I was having with constipation so I actually feel a lot better for it now. Just a bit :redface: - I should not post under the influence of sedating drugs! Don't worry - they're all on prescription.

BW

Poppy: More than likely her Wonder Week. She was due for one at 20 weeks on EDD which would make her 21 1/2 weeks the correct time. Only took me 45 minutes to get her to go down for her morning nap, and she has only woken once screaming. I'm also going to try spacing out her food for her for the next few days, instead of doing the normal 3 feeds as she has gone off her food as well (typical wonder week sign) but I don't want her to decrease her fluid intake.

OMG, I also can't believe that Tara is 5 months old today. I tell you girls time has flown by so fast. It is hard to believe that she has been with us for that long...

:dance:yep as of yesterday at 2.50pm IM A GRANDMOTHER :dance: to a very healthy baby boy..chayse bruce 6pd 6 oz

well girls my secret is out ,the only one ive ever kept from the bb world ,only one bb girl has ever known about this little secret :redface: but im just to happy to be keeping it a secret any more actually ive always been a little bit embarassed by it but from now on i DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK LOL..
my 16 year old daughter gave birth yeaterday after a very long hard pregnancy,when she origaNNALY came home and we found out she was pregnant i could have killed her ,and was so worried what we would all do,but with a tone of help from my mother we have all managed very well and now my girl is a mummy :clap:
she had a 6hr labour with only a bit of gas towards the end and only a couple of stitches we are all so very proud of her and bubba boy is just beautiful.
the only thing she said to me yesterday was " omg mummy im never doing that again "
so girls at 33 years old im a nanny and actually very happy about it :dance:
thank goodness sophie is living with my mum atm or we would have 2 babies in this house lol.

Marcellus Thanks :) also kitchen reno's are hard work, hope you have a great BBQ

Smithy Thanks, I think it's the ruitine changes that are the hardest. One moment it's this then it's totally different. Learning to go with the flow. Hard for a capricorn Poor Charlie but I second the needles, loads of cuddles. :dance: for good sleeping well done. and congrats on being a granny, :D good timing.

BW yep I second the diagnosis but that means no dairy still for now. will have to do some more reading on it. I'm going to get a prescription from my pead. I took Metmorphine for PCOS. haven't gone back on it, just go slow on the dose it can be a bit explosive. :hug: hope your night was beta

Grub he was great last night, he's sleeping on his side. I know I know not good but it's working, I have wedges and check him but same thing 7pm feed sleep on me then down till 11pm then 3am then 6am No sling to settle just burp for 10mins and he was out like a light. Not holding my breath but fingers crossed.

Poppyfairy :leap: yayayayaya

ATM Linc is getting more settled :D no sling at night to settle just bottle burp nappy burb sleep. :D I did leave him on his back for a bit long last night and up came a feed but I know now to only help him with wind when he's sitting up after a feed. Oh well it's all learning.

I had a big BLOW UP at DH yesterday. I lost it with him cos I rang and he was drinking and having a great time and when he hung up he didn't say love you. I was so annoyed I'm ok with the working on his house but not the party. We spoke afer and it wasn't an organised gathering so I'm ok and he's coming home a day early which is good, My mum did her back and can't even lift Linc so really no help. I'm so ready for someone to take over for a couple of feeds and let me sleep. DH has been warned to be ready to land and be hands on right away. he did say he is so nervous with him cos he's so small. i said the only way to get over that is to spend time with him. So hopefully my blow up soaks in :) sometimes it's needed.

Oh good Green, yes, sometimes that is needed. Dads often feel that way, but they're only going to get better with practice!

Wow, Granny Smith! Congratulations!

Eeerrr, so, so far so good BW...?

That's great Poppy! Make the most of it when it happens

Happy Birthday Grub

I soooo wanted to sleep when DS had his nap today. But unfortunately he's decided he does not want a nap today. Sigh. The bright side is that he should be in bed early.

Hi all!

Hi lovely ladies.

Wow Smithy, congrats to you on becoming a nan - and congrats to your daughter. Hope she and bub continue to be well and she loves being a mummy too.

BW - :hug: to you. You look after yourself. I'm not sure how you do it!

Kelly - 5 months, yes time does fly, and don't you just love them so much. I love getting more and more back from them as they get older. Smiles, cuddles, kisses.

Green - yup, tell him to get stuck in and he'll be fine. My DH had to look after DS1 at 5 weeks as i ended up in hospital unexpectedly for a few days. He learnt VERY quickly!! Funnily enough, he co-slept all 4 nights...something he had previously thought was too dangerous.

Go to bed early marcellus..although it's a friday night...didn't that used to be party night when we were footloose and fancy free :p

DS1 had a fever from 8pm last night that has come and gone and come again. I have managed to get him into the dr at 7pm - just hope DH will be home in time so that I don't have to take DS2 as well. I've never seen him so sad and lethargic. He never watches tv for more than 20mins, but all he wants to do is sit lie down on the floor and so I've got the tv on for him. He's ok, but there must be something wrong. My poor big baby.

Oh your poor baby!
I dunno, it's been so long... what's Friday night?

Lenny I had to chuckle at your DH and the co sleeping my DH was the first to try it in our house too. Instincts kick in eventually with DH's :D how DS1 is AOK

happy Birthday Grub hope you're getting spoilt :D

Marcellus hope you get a good night sleep instead. I've given up napping cos DS wakes, and today little bugga slept from 2pm and is still down at 5.30pm! Only 3 dummy replaces early on. Hope he sleeps as good as last night tonight :pray:

Just popped back in for a bottle q? Linc is looking for more food, not suposed to till 8 weeks but whateva. When do you go to a bigger bottle? not sure if I should persist with the smaller ones and offer a top up at the end for now. Cos it's not every feed. I'm using glass and putting off buying the big ones $$$$$$ especially since I've only just started using the small ones.

Green, the amounts they say are just guidelines - if he's hungry just feed him more, I reckon.

Green: Take Linc's queues, if he wants more then offer it to him. The tin details are only a guideline and Tara was always having bigger bottles than recommended. The tin says she should only now be having 250ml bottles but she has been having 240ml's for around 2 1/2 months, it also says she should be having 4-5 feeds a day but she generally only has 3 sometimes 4, with the 4th being a small bottle only. Trust me Linc will guide you on how much he wants and how freqently as well. Remember that when they are due for a growth spurt he will want to feed more and more often.

it's the nature of a baby to want to feed often. some may decide that three or four feeds a day are ok - but most need to feed much more often. they only have small stomachs, and need to have frequent small meals to allow them to grow properly. i would stick with the smaller bottles and only top up when needed. formula is exxy and you don't want to be wasting it!



bubba awake - bbl

Have to agree with BG - you can offer more if he needs it. But we only increased the size of Sam's bottles when he seemed hungry after he'd drained them on a regular basis. There's also been a number of times when we reduced the size of his bottles when he just wasn't interested. Easy to do when your formula is one scoop for 30mL of water!

BW

Well girls sorry I havent been in for a while. Xavier had his six week check and all is fine. We still need to follow up his hips and the clinic nurse said it still feels very loose but we will wait and see what the ultrasound reveals. The docotr was going on about what a strapping boy we have and I quickly informed him that he is our lttle baby. He is doing well for being prem. We have to remember that even though he was big development wise he was still very early. I had my check blah it never ends with the hormones. I am having to use oestrogen cream because I have not healed well down there and that will help. Must go. Hope everyone is doing well.

Thanks for your advice all After having a HUNGREY unsettled day he's been very very sleepy and isn't finishing them anymore. Went out and baught the bigger ones. THEY ARE HUGE but don't think I need them yet.

Saph :hug: Did you have a VB or CS? I'm still not AOK down stairs from a VB and a big split. But it's on the mend after some antibiotics. Hope you feel better soon and Xavier (nice name by the way) hips are good.

Well I'm a bit shocked but little man is going to bed awake! :leap: I feed, burp, play, he then get's tired and we have a cuddle and sleep. I don't need to rock him to sleep anymore. Just keep going in to re plug (dummy not happy but it works) and usually 2-4 times he's away. Today I just put his mobile on and it did the trick, I even went to check and OUT. :pray: this continues. I guess I really love the cuddles but it's not good to need to get them out out before they'll sleep. especially as he gets hevier (back is already out).

Ok he's still not great with poos. What to do. I'm giving sugar water every feed plus coloxyl drops x3 and he's still making a huge fuss and they're not great. Might have to chat with the pead. I tried the prune juice and nothing happened. Starting to miss the bf mustard:shakehead:

DH is on his way home Tuesday can't wait I really really miss him. Left mums a bit early cos I need to be on my own for a while too many hens in the hen house ;)

I must admit I'm a little scared today. I was assuming my little man was going to be mr awake and fight sleep forever and the last couple of days it's been so nice to know what I'm doing. I don't know if this will last but It's nice. I thought when he went throught the 6-8 week mark he's be more on the unsettled side not sleepy. What are you ladies finding with your little ones at this age? Nothing is as it seams :o

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

Happy Mother's Day Ladies!

I hope you had a nice one (not sure of the time difference!) I have spent the morning eating chocolates in bed and reading my lovely card that DH made. We are going on a picnic later.

Well this is the first mother's Day I haven't had to turn my face from all the Mother's Day stuff in shops or ignore the ads on TV. Last year I was embarking on my first IVF and too scared to tempt fate and the 12 years before were either too painful because of the TTC and the fact my own mother died 12 years ago. So I am enjoying the change!!!

Poppyfairy, Mothers Day in Australia isn't until May - but I will agree - the first time you experience Mothers Day as a mother is just surreal. My pregnancy with Sam was confirmed on the Friday just before Mothers Day and DH decided to be incredibly optimistic and buy me my first Mothers Day gift then... I could have killed him! But I guess it makes up for the fact that I didn't get anything for my first Mothers Day as an actual mother of an earth baby... He'd best pull his socks up this year!

BW

lol bw that is so sweet of your dh but men are hopeless in taht way aren't they. everything is very black and white to them!

poppy i hope you had a lovely mum's day :)

green - it's so wonderful when they turn a corner. it's like all the sudden they work it out and then don't look back. i hope thtat's the case for you guys. and don't beat yourself up over using a dummy. i really gave myself a guilt trip about it, but if you use it correctly it's not an evil device. we only use ours after he's eaten to help with the little bit of reflux he has and wind he only occassionaly gets now. And i remove it as soon as he doesn't need it.

oh saph that sucks about having to get on meds to help heal. i hope you are feeling better and go Xavier! hopefully he won't need much and it's just a growth thing that only time will solve.

lenny - is your boy okay? what did the doc say and did dh make it home to look after ds2 before the docs? thinkikng of you.

Hi BG - how is E going?

hi kelly D too!

Marcelllus - isn't that always the way re dropping the day sleep the day you want a lay down! i think they have mummy radar where they do the opposite of what you want them to! it's a conspiracy, i tell you, conspiracy.

lol the granny smith comment! congratulations Smithy! i imagine it feels a little surreal to be a new mum and a grandmum all at once but i'm sure you wear your new title with aplomb :) so lots of baby cuddles round your place atm! and what great mates they are going to be!!! hope it's all going well and your daughter is coping ok with her new arrival.

afm - thanks all for the bday wishes. the day isn't till Wednesday but this year DH actuallly went out shopping for me rather than a last minute homemade card with a "this entitles you'' line. i'm so excited, i know he's stashed it in his computer room, i wanna sneak but i just love surprises lol

my subscription to this thread is doing all sorts of weird stuff, that's when it works, so i'm a bit behind - thought it'd been awfully quiet lol.

but the news round here is Ash slept from 9pm to 6.15am straight last night!!! I heard him once or twice stir but he must've decided that sleep was more important than food!!! omg! i slept from 10pm to 6am without getting out of bed or laying awake for hours!!!! And even better when he woke he was HAPPY! and smiling! We had a play and a feed and he was back to bed about 7.30am. Let's hope that lasts!!! lol. but i won't hold my breath. still one night respite has me buzzing!

that's it.

morning all

green - talk to the paed or child nurse for any more advice - sounds like you're doing all the usual stuff to get things moving - so you might need a bit more help for your little man

yay on the sleep Grub - fantastic! those long sleeps are bliss (can't wait to get back to them - if i haven't said it before - wonder weeks and teething SUCK! lol)

PF - hope you had a great mothers day. DH asked me on friday night what he could get me for my birthday and mothers day this year. first birthday as a mummy (and my 30th!), first mothers day as a mummy - big weekend for him to think about! lol i was mean and told him i want him to work it out! we're not in a position to spend big money so he has to work out something special rather than something grand kwim? for his first fathers day i put E in a little suit that says "daddy is my hero" and made him a photo book with a special message from E. i made two copies so one could stay home and one go away to work in the truck with him - then he got fires 2 weeks later. grrrr

well, not a lot happening here. E is teething and has a few misery guts moments - but thankfully they're not that common. when they do happen though, they are massive meltdowns. she is unsettled at night - i think partially from pain, partially as she is going through some major developmental leaps at the moment. she rolls in her sleep and instead of going back into a deeper sleep, she wakes herself up thinking she has to try and stand up! she has learnt to stand using the furniture thsi week and has started cruising - quite proud of herself! i had all these plans to baby proof the house more over the weekend but went to melb to see friends on saturday (was a bb meet that got cancelled so i just met a few of the girls i already knew), rang to tell DH was on my way home and he told me we were going out that night. no drama. yesterday, we slept in (yay! she went back to sleep til 9.30!), then got up and did hte breakfast thing. DH went to mow the lawn while E napped and i did some washing - he came in to tell me we were going out after lunch. to same friend we'd been to see the night before! good weather turns the boys into social butterflies! E is a real social kidlet though and loves it, so that helps....

best away - need to make myself a cuppa before she decides to join me for the day. it's rather chilly in the mornings here but beautiful in the arvo and evening!

Hi ladies - just wanted to stick my head in quickly and say a big HI!

Won't have time today to catch up on persies, but hopefully I will settle into more of a routine in the next couple of weeks.

Well this is now the start of my 3rd week back at work and as such Jasmine's 3rd week at nursery. It has been a real mixed bag. I am so thankful that I am only back at work part time at present as I don't know how I or Jasmine would have coped with full time. On the work front it is actually really great being back doing what I do - I work in such a great company where my expertise is really valued. Our Melbourne office is only small, but everyone is such a 'good fit'. It truly is the best company I have ever worked for. I have been really busy every day which helps to distract me from missing my gorgeous girl.

Jasmine's first week at nursery was great for the first couple of days. She didn't even cry when I dropped her off. She was so exicted about playing with the other kids it was really wonderful to see. However (and I know those of you that have/had kids in child care will understand this) by the end of the week she had caught her first cold and had to have the Friday off (and me off work - thankfully they are so understanding as it was only my 3rd day back!) Poor baby was really sick and is actually still only coming out the other end now. So come to last week - her second week - and although she was well enough to be at nursery, she still wasn't 100%. And she started to realise that this was not a temporary situation. So the tears at drop off and pick up started. Broke my heart everytime, but the carers are so wonderful at distracting them that they bounce back so quickly once you walk out the door. I am hoping that this week will be much better (our third) as she would have had 4 days straight at home with me and she is almost totally over this cold now. So lets hope that she goes back to enjoying nursery again. Apparently she loves the group activities and has even started doing her first painting for St Patrick's Day on Wednesday.

Well I hope to be back soon to catch up on everyone.

Much love,
Janie and Jasmine xxx

What a weekend. Poor DS1 ended up in hospital with rashes and vomiting and it was awful. He is still not eating today, but has stopped throwing up water, and must be feeling better because he only woke up 3 times last night! He asked me for a swing this morning (his favourite thing) then fell asleep in it. Poor thing. As some of you know my DH is a shift worker, so it's been a bit of a nightmare. I rang a girl from mother's group and she came over and helped with DS2 while i got ready for the hospital visit. I was covered in vomit (noice!) and needed to shower and change. I've never asked for help before...and boy i'm glad i did. It makes you realise how people are happy to help, they just need to be asked.

Gotta go, they are both waking now :doh:

Wow it seems we are all having a bad time of it with our big babies at the moment.

Just have a few moments before miss cranky wakes up. BG, I hear you on the Wonder Weeks and teething thing. Tara has the worst w/e possible, really fussy, not wanting to sleep and then being overtired. It took us almost 2 hours yesterday afternoon/evening to get her down for a sleep (which only lasted 30 minutes). So definately Wonder Weeking here plus I think she might be starting to get teething symptoms. Her poor dummy now doesn't just get sucked but it's getting the life chewed out of it as well, so with all the crankyness and teething signs I caved and gave her some baby panadol last night. At least that worked and she had her usual long night sleep (9.30pm-8am) and then into big bed and back to sleep until 10am. She is asleep again now, either from exhaustion from her w/e ordeal or we are over the worst of the Wonder Week. Gotta go grocery shopping today and going to get some teething rings to put in the freezer for her, yesterday her favourite thing was to suck on the outside of a cold can straight out of the fridge. Not ideal, but a huge clue for me. I've already got some amber teething beads, but haven't used them yet, I've have put them on her but they keep getting stuck in the folds under her chin so am hoping I can hold out until she can sit up by herself so her neck is stretched out a bit more and the necklace won't get stuck.

Hopefully will bbl for a catch up, but I'm just so exhausted still and after the weekend I'm feeling more shattered than ever.

Grub DON"T PEAK! :P and well done little Ash. Oh my goodness you must be bouncing off the walls. I'm over the moon at 3 hours at a time. but that sounds like hevan and so soon. Fingers crossed for the continuation.

Brigsy well I think I'm just impatient (:rolleyes:) He did a great one this morning so much so I think I'll give the coloxyl drops a tone down, keep going with the sugar water and then ween him off. I'm not going to stop all together don't want a relaps. Also No screaming just a bit of pushing. Oh my lord it stunk though :o Have you tried lemon? My bro swears by lemons for teething it seams to work.

Poppy Happy Mothers day :hug: I can't wait till May, I almost cried reading your post. I think the story is so similar to mine. I can't wait and am so glad I get to do it first. Fathers day is in Sept here.

Janie I'm sorry Jasmine hasn't enjoyed childcare I guess a cold can really throw babes. I hope it gets better Not looking forward to my own experience comming up.

Lenny really glad you asked for help. Hope it all gets better soon.

KellyD hope the cold teething stuff works, I got one at my baby shower, bit of a way off yet (I hope).

ATM hungry little man, he's waking up 4 hourly at night but three hourly during the day, drinking 120mls then right back to sleep. I put him in the sling to do the washing and he was so annoyed with me and just wanted to go back to bed. He fell asleep on my lap and didn't even wake when I set the smoke alarm off.

DH home today. Oh boy do I need a cuddle

Have a great day all :grouphug:

;) hello girls ,
just popping in for a very quick hello,i hope your all well i just dont have time today for perssies,my miss c is also very unsettled the last few days ,nights have been great though si atm this is all i care about lol MY SLEEP .
anyways big hugs to all and take care.

Oh poor little man Lenny! :hooray: for your mothers' group friend.

Hope things are better with the poos Green.

:hug: Janie. It's really hard. I'm sure she'll settle in just fine, but when they get sick all the time it's bloody awful!

A pox on teething!

Hi everyone else

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A pox on teething!

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Amen to that! Feral teething toddler here - hunger striking and complete with toxic teething poo... ugh!

BW

Green I had a VB with a cut because of the scar tissue from Campbells birth. I was cut with his and had a third degree tear. I have had 2 lots of antibiotics and burst my stitchers. The oestrgoen cream seems to be making it more irritated. What to do, will leave it a bit longer and then call OB.

I have to have a little complain. We went privately for both our boys births. Campbell ended up in intensive care so was therefore admitted to the hospital, his medical bills were ciovered by our health insurance. Xavier even though he was prem did extremely well and was not addmitted to hospital. I have just recieved $600 worth of paediatricians bill for the 10 mins that he spent with us and also recieved $700 worth of pathology bills for the 2 of us. So not impressed.

Sleep what is that, well we had a good night last night. I got 10 til 1.30 and then 2.30 til 5 and then 5.30 til 8. I am just so lucky that when DH is not here to get up to him, Campbell will play quietly on his bed until I get him up. Must be off to cook dinner.

Ouch! Those bills are nasty! We went private for Sam and didn't pay a cent for the ten days that Sam was in SCN, nor a cent for the ten days that I spent in the same hospital as a patient as I told them I wasn't going home for Christmas without my boy (I fully expected to go home after Christmas, but they then didn't talk about sending me home until Sam was ready to go too). How premature was Xavier, Saph? Sam was a 36-weeker.

Sorry, I lie - I did receive one bill - a pharmacy bill for the haemarrhoid cream I needed. Pathology for us both was covered.

BW

BW he was a 36 weeker as well, Well almost 37 weeks but they all kept telling me he is doing amazingly well for being prem. This was my dream birth, an hour labour and straight up onto my chest for a feed, ( not a great feed but one all the same.) We got to cuddle whilst the ob did the cord blood storage and then I had a hemorage ?sp so they started working on me for a while but I still got to cuddle him. Campbells shoulders got stuck and he had a terrible delivery and didnt breathe. He was intubated and taken to ICU before I even got to see him. They almost sent him to the childrens hospital here but luckily we only ended up on different floors not different hospitals. But I now have my 2 beautiful boys and the huge bills, terrible blood loss and sore bits are all worth it.

:hello:beautiful friends.thinking of you all

Hope you get some more sleep Smithy :D actually I hope we all do

Saph :hug: ouch that sounds awful, here I am cursing my little ouchy. I hope it works soon. Also your baby and my baby are almost in sinc. I got 10.30 to 1 DH got up but I fed, 2-4.15 (resettle up at 5) then 6-8. :D good night. Also since DH is home Linc is not so screamy at wake time little bugga must like his dad changing his nappy more than me.

Hmmm last night was awful and wonderful I craked it a bit during the day after linc wet the bed 4 times (boys ahhhh) so I rang DH for some support he was awful and said "you wanted him you can't give hime back" OMG I almost changed the lockes when we got home we had a huge fight but it did clear the air. and we're on track again. Funny how now linc is better I feel worse I guess it's all about survivol.

I got out heaps today and DH looked after Linc although he slept most of the time.
Any tips on sleeping when we go out? He slept on me (not always ok)
He's better in the car :dance: but I need to put the dummy on a bungie cord so I can find it while driving.
Hate the capsual and will be buying a car seet soon. Thank god I borrowed one.
Work rang and I need to drive 1500kms by the end of the month :doh: what the with a new born, so off to Victor Harbor and the Baby Expo this weekend Oh and Voting (fun) NOT.
Off to the Hosp tomorrow to see if little man has kidney reflus but I don't think so.
Oh we're back to pellets :doh: so back on all the sugar water and stuff, I'm going to speak to the pead on a lighter note though he didn't scream at all even though it was mega solid.
But we had a windy day. Bring on 12 weeks..............
Oh I forgot to add I found out why (I think) Linc was hysterical after his 5am feed, he wants to be up. We DH DS and I had a cuppa (bottle) in bed for an hour and right back to sleep :) happy mummy and not over the top screaming DS. So it seams for now 5am and 5pm are our awake times (an hour or more) but the rest of the time he gets cranky or falls asleep at 30mins (I wonder how long for)
Have a great day all :D

Hmmm... All this loading up babies with sugar worries me. Will he take cooled, boiled water from a bottle? It's something we did with Sam very early on (it was a nasty hot Summer when he was born) - cooled, boiled water in a bottle and if it was hot and he wasn't settling he got offered water over more milk. If he woke up too early (which was usually because it was hot) we offered a bottle of water and he would take a few sips and settle back to sleep.

Now we have a toddler who is happy to guzzle down water and we have no issues keeping his fluids up. Just a thought - pellety poos are often (and I'm judging from my own digestive system here, not Sam's!) from not getting enough water and I've heard of it happening often with formula-fed babies that they just simply need extra water (offered as water, not added to their formula bottles).

Last time I ran into a friend of mine she was giving her 9 month old boy water with cordial added as he wouldn't drink water without the cordial and he was born with only one functioning kidney so it was really important that they keep his fluids up. I would hate to have to do that, and I somehow feel that giving babies sugar-water now could lead to that further down the track.

I know it's hard to think beyond an immediate solution when you're in the midst of trying to help a constipated baby - have been there so many times before!

I hope that doesn't all come across as a lecture - just a concerned parent trying to help out others from my own experiences.

I was also never really fully comfortable giving Sam prune juice until he was older. We stuck with coloxyl drops in his bottles until he was about 7-8 months and now the preferred constipation remedy is watered-down prune juice. I told him once that it was black drink like mummy's and he's never tried to snaffle my coke since!

Meanwhile, we have the opposite problem here. Sam's cutting a molar or two and is off his food and producing some fantastic nappies for DH. Yesterday he was into his 3rd nappy for the morning before we even left at 7:45 to drop me off at work. The look on DH's face when he opened a nappy to find liquid poo barely held in by the leak guards was just priceless! Panadol, brauers teething relief and brauers stomach calm seem to be getting us through and while his poos are still more frequent and runny than normal, he's doing much better and is actually eating food again. After two days of virtually hunger-striking and only finishing about half of his bottles if that, it's a huge relief!

Work is hell - I won't go into the details, but there's been several floods of tears over the last few days and I'm seriously OVER some students and some of our executive staff! I never expected to be treated so much like a new teacher when I was returning to the same school after a year off.

BW

BW I totally agrea Linc will take water and I offer it especially today when it was so warm He woke up so hot, on with the AC. I stopped the coloxyl dropps and have started them again. I don't like any medication but I guess they are designed for babies :( just wish she wouldn't be constipated really.

The only issue with the water is he wont take it after a feed so I'm offering it before and wondering if that's filling his little tummy and not letting him eat as much ??????? so many questions.

All the parenting lines recomend the sugar water and when I phoned yesterday they said stop the drops before stopping the water??????????? but I'm sure if I rang again I'd get a different answer. There really is no RIGHT answers is there.

I've been googling different formulas and am wondering if the prescribed formula is less likely to cause constopation? Sounds like a good reason to get my pead to write a script and gett my little man off soy. Seeing Pead in a week will go with my LIST.. I'm sure they're used to it.

No Prune juce either didn't work so why keep going. but will use at 3+ month if needed. Let's hope not.

Also I read somewhere that your baby has your bowl movements? in that case he's probably always going to have issues. Poor bugga I need mega fiber in my diet.

i will second the cooled boiled water - took DD a while to take to water, but now she is fantastic. if we go anywhere she has her sippy cup and will drink when she's thirsty - when it's hot, she will drink more to make sure she doesn't dehydrate - she will even take herself out to the kitchen and let us know she wants it - at nine months. she will happily take water over prune or pear juice (we tried when she was going 10 days between movements - she wasn't a fan!) - personally, i would think it's better to get your bubbas to have plain water...

not a lot else to say at the moment - i'm really struggling emotionally as i've made the decision to return to work next month and it's starting to hit me that i won't be with my girl all the time. it's not a nice feeling!

I can certainly see some merit to your baby having your kind of digestive system. Mine's slow and sluggish and Sam's tends to be as well. Poor bugger is going to have a lot of heartburn issues when he's older, I guess!

I try not to use coloxyl or prune juice too often. I guess I look at it as a case of there are some things that you use to get things moving... and you don't necessarily want to be doing those things all the time to keep things moving.

I guess my gut feeling on the sugar water is that it's the sugar making it more palatable to the baby so that they increase their water intake and it's the water that does the job... I just can't see how sugar can have a laxative effect on babies when it doesn't do that to adults.

Is it possible to offer water between feeds? If he's only taking a few sips of water at a time I can't see how it's filling him up and stopping him drinking enough milk... I can also understand not wanting to drink water after a big drink of milk. Do you go feed play sleep? How about water after play time and before going back to sleep? I think that's how we did it - but I mainly remember the first 8 weeks where the heat was such an issue for us (we moved to a cooler house when Sam was 8 weeks old), if Sam was awake and not due for a feed, he got water - and he'd never take a huge amount, but it seemed to do the trick. We offer water if he wakes during the night now, too. Didn't start doing that until he was about 6 months old - before then it was milk, but after that point it was water and it seems to have kept him happy.

Anyway, I must dash. I do hope that I haven't come across as lecturing and I certainly don't want to make anyone feel guilty - I guess with an older bub, it's a bit easier to think about the long-term consequences and not just be so focussed on getting my poor baby's bowels moving again!

(and the teacher in me never really stops!)

Must go get some work done - urgently!

BW

ooh, on another note - when your kidlets are 6 months, try giving them prunes as a snack. they make my tummy turn, but E loves them - and when she eats them every day or two, we have no dramas with her getting backed up!