Parenting after LT TTC #5

Opposite side of the coin - Sam came home in a routine from day dot and has never really thrown too many curve balls at us unless he's sick. I'm not sure still whether it was because he was premmie and spent 10 days in special care being "trained" into a routine or whether he's just that kind of kid. I try not to talk about it too much as I know that most kids aren't like him!

No closer to a decision on more IVF or not. I'm kind of leaning toward not for now - but will probably consult with a few specialists before I finalise that decision - not that I'm doing anything to get that underway!

I have just one more thing to say. Tonsilitis sucks.

BW

Marcellus - BTW DS's little miracle of falling asleep by himself lasted about two nights!! Then teething mucked it all up again. We are now doing half an hour of feed, whinge, feed, whinge, roll over, feed, roll over, whinge, feed, shake toy lamb vigorously, feed, whinge, feed, sleep. And not always in that order!!! The big lesson I am learning is you get over one obstacle and the next one is looming quickly! Routine schmoutine!!! Burn those books!!!!

Lise - just reread your post and noticed you mentioned shields. I used them for a couple of weeks because of bad attachment due to a tongue tie. I started them at about 5 weeks though I think. I found it hard to believe that he would attach without them but eventually he did after a couple of days of weaning him off them. Also their attachment improves as time goes on and they get bigger (even with flat nipple) so you may not have to use them forever if you are unhappy with them.

Psst Poppy, DS did it at around 5 months, then not again till nearly 2....

:hug: BW. Good luck with your decision.

Oh and nipple shields, I used them from 4-11 weeks.

What a refreshing and funny convo you are having atm Poppy and Marcellus. As I write, I have just fed my two hourly feeding terror and she has sprawled out upside down over my lap, arching her back, because that's what she likes to do after a feed now apparently:rolleyes:

Yep, I was doing feed upon feed and I still get the look like "well what took you so bloody long?" when you just offered her a feed 5 minutes earlier and she refused point blank, but now it's like you have been starving her. It's hard to read the signs sometimes still as I said to DH lastnight, it looks like I'm forcing her but I'm trying to work out if that's the "don't want it" cry or "give it to me now" cry. It was the latter as she practically inhaled before my top was even open! I think wind still plays a part too, either from what I eat, or just her system, so I still have to go back and remember the basics of burping and working her legs, or just get her up and moving. It makes sense but it doesn't always come into your mind when you think it should just be a smooth feed.

routine schmoutine..I agree, although I do recall 12 weeks being a time where the really bad wind started to settle as her system got stronger and she could pass it through herself. NOw there's nothing funnier to her than feeling those little bottom burps rumbling under her (like right now OMG!) and she feels really proud of what she can do. For a kid who can't hear, she still enjoys alot of tactile sensations like the vibrations of a good fart and oh dear, I've never seen a kid blow more big wet raspberries.


i was addressing a Lion's Club meeting this week and I'm standing at the mike explaining our situation, and her Dad has her on his lap and she is blowing raspberries at me non-stop:redface: she's actually quite useless in the cutest possible way. she gets tangled up in things and just can't get out, like I put her on the ground to work out her wind a minute ago (it worked!) and she is now completely stuck untder the clothes airing rack. If she can get under it with her legs, she will, but she can't get out. I digress.:doh:..good news....the Lions Club rang us back after the meeting and want to support us by paying our travel costs for Jazzy's therapy. I was so happy I cried from sheer relief. I knew it would come from local community and not government agencies and I didn't waiver in my belief that somewhere, somehow, a window would open for us. We don't need much, I mean it's not like we can ask for the $100,000 plus for the surgery, but the therapy costs are a huge deal and are setting us further behind than ever before. We have a few more trips to Melb before the surgery now too, so that's going to be a great help. I'm feeling much better now and all on track for November.

Janie, it's a me post too, but it's hard to find time to speak to eve3ryoneand again I have a squirmy wormy on my lap eating her foot. I know what you mean about the fear getting less. I guess it's like a lot of things and now it's more of a contained fear for you, not hysterical and terrifying I imagine.

Gotta go resume feeding and hopefully get a nap out of jazzy.

xox

Oh and by the way, I think I 'll be in the same boat with the baby that never goes down for a sleep on her own. It's boob and me for now. Don't know what I'll do when she weans but we do what works for now hey?

Hehehe I have a little monkey who is totally routine-less too! He sets his own routine, and every day is different! And BW he was in special care too for a week! I guess he's just contrary & stubborn just like Mummy :rofl: I guess it goes to show every baby is different. One more on the "Burn the Books" bandwagon! Of course they're not gonna follow the textbook, Don't they know that babies can't read? LOL

Hope you're all well. Been lurking but not posting. I very rarely get the laptop open these days, generally just read posts on my phone while feeding, and posting via iPhone is rather annoying LOL.

We're all good here, although still dealing with the teething monster :( Hoping something will cut through soon. DS is madly trying to sit up. He can pull himself up from a recline position but can't hold it just yet. Also when you lay him on his belly his arms & legs go like the clappers, but when he realises he's not going anywhere he gets rather cranky!

I just have to say, once again, how totally in love I am with my boy! This is just the best job ever! And all the hard times & sleepless nights are totally worth it! Waking up & looking over the side of the cot to see that grinning little face just makes our day, even if it's at 4am!

Anywway here's some more pics of our cheeky little monkey: Kelly Wijnans#039;s Photos - Jagger 3-6 Months | Facebook

Hope you all have a great weekend! We are very excited, Daddy has his first full weekend at home in months! We can't wait to spend it with him, and we're having family portraits done tomorrow to boot!

I guess that proves it - Sam is just that kind of kid that loves routine. I remember Sam doing all those things too, BOC - but when he was MUCH older than Jagger is now! Looks like you'll have an early mover on your hands!

And tonsilitis still sucks - both me and Sam for the third time in the last two months. I never got it before this - it's horrible!

BW

Hello all,
Long time no posting, or much reading! I've gone back to work 4 days a week (needed to for my sanity as much as I love our DS), and with that and farm and getting organised for work...everything else just drops off. BUT am trying to get back into do some 'me' stuff - including BB:D

Looks like lots has been happening, so will have some catching up to do, but till then :hello:

FG

big hello to farmgirl..
and boc hun love the new pics hun,thanks for sharing.talk about cute,i just wanna eat him up

FG: Good to see you back, wow back at work 4 days a week you get my praise I couldn't even think of working.

Lise: I was pretty lucky that once Tara started sleeping through the night at 8 weeks we established some form of routine. Although I think FF babies are a bit easier to get into a routine as you know how much they are drinking and are able to work out when the next feed will be. This has seemed to be the case with my MG between booby and bottle babies anyway.

Big hello to everyone else...

Well I'm still very tired and having a baby who is suffering with teeth and having disrupted sleep isn't helping. After the 2 Tara got last week, I can see she has 1 more ready to pop and also the "fangs" are starting to show as well so lots happening in her little mouth at the moment. Still no crawling but to be honest I am happy about that as she is able to roll too fast for my liking and can get around just fine, she can easily change direction and will shuffle backwards and sideways to get around.

Things are moving forward as well for our FET, I start on progesterone tomorrow and will be having the transfer next friday. So fingers crossed that our little frosties survive the thaw and that everything goes to plan. Anyway better go and try to get a little cranky pants to sleep....

Popyfairy, I totally agrea Linc is only now feeding 4 hourly and that's on a bottle when it was breast it was 1.5+

BW :hug: I second that I never had it until I went to Canada now I get it yearly hopefully DS can avoid it.

BOC i have had the teething monster for a while now, got a good topical gel from the womens and childrens.

KellyD :goodluck:

Smithy :hello:

ATM DH is at the football Nana just left and linc is down for a late nap. I know I'm not suposed to but if he sleeps a little bit longer he stays up till 7.30 then sleeps till 2am and I only have one wake up. Other wise it's still 10 and 2.

Beautiful day today :) can't wait for summer

hi everyone, still here just been very busy.

As for all the routine talk C had a routine like clockwork (BW he too was in special care and came home on a routnine) and even now he is till the same, has to watch neighbours and then it is bed. But as for X he has no routine what so ever.

Green I have to say I dont know how you do it working and still getting up twice a night. If linc is going from 7.30 til 2 I would put him to bed then. X is going from 7 til around 5. We have stopped dream feeding him as well. His last feed is about 6.30 which I make sure he has a really good feed (both sides as he usually only takes one).

hope everyone is doing well

:hello: hey girls,hope your all going good today.
janie,murph,grub,marcellus,saph,bw,bg,farmgirl,boc ,green,lise,poppy,kelly im thinking of you all girls and i hope you have a wonderful week.dh and i have our 4th wedding anniverary thursday :D and its dh birthday the same day,so his getting a new motor for the ride on heheheh we blew the old one up bumma.love to you all xoxo big sloppys from baby charie

Thanks for all your responses re routines ladies, I must admit i'm feeling a lot better now! I was wondering when I would work out the difference between a hungry, bored, sore tummy, over tired cry etc, and wondering when he might start setting into a more predictable routine. After all, the books say by now he should be in a regular pattern but alas he musn't have read that one! I think i'll be ignoring the books and just going with the flow. One more question though - now that Finn has regained his birth weight we've moved to demand feeding rather than waking him every 3 hours etc. At night he actually goes 6-7 hours without a feed - should I be waking him sooner or just letting him go until he wakes himself for a feed? I'm taking him to the clinic to get weighed again tomorrow but just interested in your thoughts regarding waking him for feeds versus just letting him dictate feeding times...

Kelly - hope you're coping well with your cycle as well as a baby. I know I was emotional enough when I was stimming so wishing you all the very best!

Greenslw - glad that DH is going to be home looking after Linc and you can focus on work without having to stress about other things also :)

BOC - have you had a lovely weekend at home with JD and DH!

Murph - glad to hear about the Lions club chipping in for Jaz, must be such a relief.

Smithy - hope you have a lovely anniversary with DH :)

Marcellus - thanks for the tips. I think i'm going to call ABA as even with the nipple shields (which are indeed a nuisance!!) my boobs are still hurting half the time so think we might still be having some attachment issues or something...

Big hello to everyone else and apologies for the lack of persies. Finn has decided it's feeding time again so my computer time has come to an abrupt end. Hope everyone is well xx

Yep, get on to those boobs. If you PM Barb also, she may be able to recommend a good LC in your area. Attachment issues are usually fixable (and sore boobs suck!)
As for demand feeding, how often is he feeding all up? How many wet & dirty nappies? You want 4-5 wet disposables (or 6-8 cloth) plus at least a few poos per day. Bf babies will often poo every time you feed them early on, too. If he's getting at least 8 feeds (that would be bare minimum mind) and plenty of nappies, then it's probably fine to leave him longer overnight (enjoy!). Just keep an eye on that, as well as weight gains etc.

Sometimes books are useful, just remember that your baby is an individual and has his own unique needs, and your circumstances are unique also. Pick and choose.

Congratulations Smithy! Sorry, I changed the colour on your post as my old eyes couldn't read it.

Hi Farmgirl!

Fingers still crossed for you Kelly

Hope you and Sam are well BW

Who says you're not supposed to Green? Sounds like it's a good idea

And :hello: to everyone else

We're getting there, marcellus. Slowly but surely we are recovering... The problem is that this usually means it's about time for the next bug to start making plans and to attack the household!

Haven't moved any closer to a decision on more IVF now or not, but I have decided I will at least consult with an FS to see what they say.

BW

Hi girls,

Welcome Lise. If it was me I wouldn't wake to feed but it really depends on whether LO is having plenty of wet nappies or not. Lyla when she was about 5 months (teething) when for a whole morning without any milk (she refuses) and only one wet nappy by 1 pm, I had to feed her every hour or so just so she get enough fluid.

Thanks for the birthday wishes.

good luck Kelly.

Congrats Smithy.

Murph, want to speak to you so I am going to PM you.

Green... glad to hear DH will be doing fulltime dad.. but you are so very brave... I don't I could trust my DH to be a fulltime dad within the first 12 months. He does everything go but struggles a little when things go pear shape... which is all the time with a bub.

BW.. poor you... so far in our household only Lyla and DH get sick... somehow God always spare me... to take care of all...

Hi to anyone else I have missed.

AFU, we had the biggest 1st birthday party with over 100 guest! Lyla had a wonderful time and everyone was so thrilled to see how she had grown, walking and interacting with others... so sociable. .. she's mimicking words we say...sorry got to run.. will further update later... never seem to get the time to do proper posts.

Thanks Marcellus and Kahlan for your thoughts. We took him to the clinic this morning to get weighed and he's put on 325g in one week so the MACH nurses were quite happy to let him go longer as long as he continues to have a good number of nappies and a good weight gain. I must admit as much as i'm enjoying the good night sleeps I feel a bit neglectful letting him sleep so long during the day but I guess I know he's putting on enough (more than enough!!) weight so should all be good. Marcellus - can I ask who Barb is? I still want to talk to a lactation consultant about the shields and attachment issues.

Ooops, I have an awake baby so better dash. Hope all are going well :)

Oh sorry, Barb Glare, our resident bf guru. Pop in over at the breastfeeding help & support forum too if you want.

That's a great weight gain. Enjoy the rest while you can, you never know how long it'll last anyway! Just keep an eye on things - always better to jump on any potential problems before they become major ones (though obviously I hope you won't have more problems!).

Hi Kahlan! Wow, that's a big party! Sounds like your little one is doing wonderfully :)

BW, don't say that! Let's have a break from illness

DS was up last night with a temperature and vomitting (well more like dry retching poor poppet, as his tummy was nearly empty). Very little sleep but he's bright as a button today :rolleyes:

Oh, I suppose I should start a new thread.