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can't remember how the rest of the song goes, but it involves yelling, yes?
we're trundling along. no baby plans as yet. hey, we're finally getting round to writing wills. anyone written in something about frozen embryos? like giving partner permission to use/donate if one of us dies...?
hi! just poking in here before my time! hope that is ok..wasn't planning on repling but..
MadB ~ ours had that in our IVF thing... basically through the IVF clinic we had to sign a thing saying what would happen to our embryos if one of us died, and if we had any frozen sperm if DH gave me permission to use it if he died.
would that be legally binding?
Yes, after quiet comes lots of yelling!!
MadB - Ours was also in our IVF paperwork. We could choose if one of us 'inherited' our embies (if any).
Janie - nice to hear from you too. Wow, half way. Exciting!!! (Insert tiny bit of baby envy!)
Tei - you can join in. Get a feel for your new thread!
i don't remember any paperwork like that!
MadB - ours was with our paperwork also - I think we may have filled it out as part of our Psych appointment (preggie brain not helping me much at the moment!)
Tei - come and join us! Looking forward to your BA soon.
Hi Lenny :)
Green - any more news about using your frosties?
Hi to everyone else xxx
nope, they forgot our pysch appointment, too. lucky we're not crazy. much. (my clinic is a bit crap sometimes)
i haven't gotten round to paying my latest rent fees - astronomical, by the way, given how little space they take up - so maybe when I call I'll ask about it.
Good to hear from you Green!!! Can't believe Lincoln is almost 2.5, where did that time go??? And so glad to hear you're trying for number two, have my fingers crossed for you that it's an easy journey xx Where are you up to in the process?
Janie, wow, almost half way now, woo hoo! When is your scan? Are you going to find out the colour of your bundle?
MadB, I really must write my will too, neither DH or I have one which is very bad. But like some of the others have said, i'm pretty sure we had to sign paperwork when we did IVF (we did ours in Vic, not sure if that makes a difference?) regarding what would happen to our frozen embies if one of us died. I certainly remember we had to discuss it at our counselling session so at least we know what we would do even if we can't find the paperwork! How much are your storage fees if you don't mind me asking? I just paid mine again, we pay $150 each six months and we're coming up to three years. It was our intention to use our frozen embie this year but turns out we didn't need to :) So now we just need to work out if we want to try for number three or not. Seems funny to have this conversation when number two isn't even here yet but anyway...! I think i'd prefer to try and then if it doesn't work it wasn't meant to be, I don't think DH would want us going down the IVF path again given we'd be busy with two boys anyway and much much broker than before.
Big hello to Lenny, JBM and everyone else! It has been very quiet in here indeed. I must also confess to being a bad bb member - i've been working full time in the lead up to mat leave (which started this week, yay!) and in the past couple of months DS has had about three ear infections and tonsillitis (gotta love the first winter in childcare, NOT), and then thrush from all the antibiotics, so he's been a tad miserable poor little sausage. But other than that he's going really well, he'll be two soon (this baby is due the day after DS was, i'm very worried they'll have the same birthday) which has just flown by. He's such a funny little guy, very much his own person and we love him to bits.
Anyway, i'll stop rambling now (can you tell i'm on leave?!) but hope everyone is going well and looking forward to hearing from more of you xx
mine $250 for 6 months!!! Used to be $120.
Hooray for mat leave! hope you have some lovely time for yourself and little guy before the next one is here
Yay!! I'm officially allowed in here now!!!
Hey, did I miss an announcement!!!!?
hey guys we are all busy it seems. i used to get annoyed when people who were in LTTC groups had their bubs and suddenly dissapeared ...... now i am one of them ??!!!
life just gets busy and even now i am supposed to doing something for dinner ???oops ...llol
my little fatty is almost 6 months now. so cute, heaps giggles and growing heaps !!
i cant believe how much i love him and the boys love him too ..
by the way a big congrats to you teirae !!!!!!!:clap:
=) here are my middle of the night musings, whilst feeding my little girl.
its very odd... i always wanted hundreds of children, and we will deff have more one day, but atm i am truely happy with just DD. I never thought id feel this way. after experiencing a want and a need and a longing for so long its really nice to feel content =) her and i have been searching for eachother for so long, and times when i was ready, she wasn't and vise versa, i really do feel complete with her. ive never felt this truely content before, because ive always just experienced that empty want feeling.
does that make any sense? im typing one handed too... and it did come to me in the middle of the night.
REDrobbin:"yeah 30 mins to do the laundry, i totally know where you coming from ..lol
lise: what is it with those 30 min naps ?. we are having them also
hi to everyone else
hi guys. yeah looks like we've all been busy .
we have just got our 4th tooth .....boy i hate teething !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i had forgotten how bad it is, we have got one of those amber teething necklaces which does help his dribbling and during the day, but he doesnt wear it of a night and we have been waking 5 times a night ....
which may not seem so bad but he had only been waking once or sometimes sleeping thru ?!
bubs getting cranky with me now !...so gotta go fix him... some BF will put him to sleep ...lol
chat soon
Hi girls, I haven't been on here for ages, but wanted to announce the arrival of our beautiful girl K.eira K.aur on 10 October at 3.230kgs by CS.
We are totally in love although the last few weeks have been difficult. I ended up back in hospital with my wound getting infected, boy did I feel terrible! Spend another 3 days in there on IV ABs with my wound reopening slightly to get rid of all the gunk, yuck! Anyhow I am feeling on top of the world now. Then bubs had failed the newborn hearing screen whilst in hospital twice. So the day after I got out of hospital the second time we went to get tested by an audiologist at Uni of Melbourne. We were convinced that all would be okay, but unfortunately our gorgeous girl is profoundly deaf in her left ear. Thankfully she has perfect hearing in her right ear. So we have been coming to terms with that also.
Everything happens for a reason and our DD is just a little ray of sunshine, we really are truly blessed to have here in our life's.
Xxx
Janie: congrats on your new bub:happyforyou:
you know I can remember when bub number one was born for you, how amazing hey, now 2 little girls :)
so sorry about her hearing, but i suppose at least she can still hear ok out of one. its amazing how they can check these things so early on and get as much help as possible :D
she will be a month old now so hopefully you guys are settling into a new baby in the house and being a mum of 2 now :)
sending you our best wishes :loveshower:
AFM: well my bub is almost 11 months!!!!..... wow that gone fast. I love him to bits and he is such a good baby, mine just keep getting better.
its amazing how quickly ive picked it all back up again :)
i still dont have AF back.... not really complaining about that :noaf:
we have discussed that as soon as we can afford we are going to try again ...... with our frosties and if nothing happens with our 6 we have in freezer then thats it. i'm not doing it again :(
... ever
ok
hi to all. chat soon
Hi
Congratulations Janie!
We've also come to a decision - for now - about our frosties. We will go again early next year. We have 2 left. They may or may not thaw. We may or may not get a baby out of it. But that's it. I'm hoping I can feel ok about that, whatever happens. There are positives to no more children - return to work, sleep (!!!), etc. I know it will be hard, though. Logically, I think I really have to draw a line under this and soon. I still feel that sensation of waiting, hanging out for something to happen.... Perhaps all will be easier once we've moved on from the baby-stage of life...? :)
Glad your boy is going well JBM. I just got my first period a couple of months ago - over 20 months. woooooo!
MadB ~ I like that idea, I think when we are getting close to being done. we will probably do the same sort of arrangement. Wont be this time, but maybe after we have 2 kiddies, (3 trying for a 4th would be my ideal, but dont think that will happen), and depends how many frosties we have by then I guess. you have 2 cuties as it is, (read your blog re: things your boys says), I think he is a genius!. hope you get one more out of them though =)
JBM ~ Hi!! long time no see! I'm glad your going to try for another =) your lucky no AF!! I got mine back straight away!! so straight away infact there was a few weeks I wasn't sure if it was my period or I was still PN bleeding! and WOW I can't believe he is nearly 1!!!
Janie ~ ouch about your wound! Hope it is all healed up now. congrats on your little girl!! how is she going? is there a history of hearing loss in your family? or was it completely out of the blue? Its great they catch these things so early as early intervention can make a difference in some things.
we got the bill in the mail today to keep our 2 embryos frozen, or our options if we don't want to use them anymore. is $300 for the year. is that about what others pay? When Spock is a year old we will start thinking about going for number 2, get referals etc... so will be a couple of months after that by time we get back into it I think. I would love to try again earlier, but think it would be better on my body etc.. to wait til a year non pregnant. of course I can spend the time enjoying my girl =). Even though I still do have that content feeling and not longing for number 2 yet, I am finding myself talking about number 2 (already has a nickname), so already part of our lives etc...
Both times, I think my longing started around when af returned! But that took much longer for me than you (which sucks, btw)
Our storage used to be $240/year, but has recently gone up to $500/year!!!!! no explanation. I guess it's the gold plating they use on the fridge drawers?
Hey, did anyone here to HRT FET? What did it cost? It was $5,000 for us.... seems very expensive. I'm not sure if it's worth moving t a new clinic with only 2 embryos, and particularly since we've had such excellent success rates at this clinic.
500! wow, you would want 100% guarrentee with that!
HRT FET? is that the type of transfer? like a simulated cycle with a FET? Im going to say no cause I'm not sure what it is =P
Hormone Replacement Therapy Frozen Embryo Transfer :)
So it's a totally controlled cycle with no ovulation - pills and pessaries to replace any ovary action and support pregnancy till 12 weeks
ahhhh, then no sorry haven't tried it. is that an option if AF hasn't arrived? or do you do it even if you have AF?
mad B: woohoo, on deciding to do something with your frosties, mine are still in the freezer waiting,,....yes we have decided that when the time is right we will use our frosties but no more IVF after that, so if we dont get a baby that is it. i am happy with that as i feel i have my amily now even if it is all boys...lol. good luck to you. make sure to keep us posted as to what is happening. :-)
TT40: our bill for our 6 babies in the freezer is $ 200 a year , which they let me pay off, so i dont mind that. its a hard one when to decide to go back again, and every mum is different. you've just gotta do what you feel is right.... i don't recommend a 9 year gap like i had but 2 or 4 years is good. make the most of your precious daughter ... good luck
AFM: yes almost 1 year has gone very fast! ..... my baby doesn't look like a baby now but a little boy already :doh:
but i love him to bits and he is very spoilt
chat soon to all
TT - you still need to have a cycle, yeah, so you'll need af. You just don't need to ovulate yourself - so good for those with dodgy ovaries. It also allows you to coast along if the first embryo doesn't thaw - you can wait for the next in a sort of hormonal holding pattern. That won't work if you do a natural or stimulated cycle.
I was flicking through a book in the library the other day and came across a page that reckoned, biologically, a roughly 2.5-4 year age gap was most ideal. I didn't read any more so don't know what evidence they had of this.
Congrats Janie! Hope all is well and you're getting lots of sleep :)
Re frozen embryos, we're not sure what to do though it's still early days really. We only have one so initially we thought we'd transfer and see how we go. But DS2 is such an ATROCIOUS sleeper - I'm talking ALL sleeps on me and only 45 mins at a time, day or night - that I honestly don't know if I could cope with a third. But the thought of donating our embryo to research (which was our original plan when we had our IVF counselling and they asked this question), well now that we have children, I just don't know if we can do it. We'll see...
That sounds very rough lise! With both of mine I never contemplated even trying before 18 months - only then were we getting a few hours at a stretch. Too tired to even think about conceiving, never mind starting over with a new baby! I'm sure it's not always the case, but I wonder if those parents who have kids close together must get the babies that sleep :)
Hope it's not too much longer before you get some better sleep!
We had discussed donating any spares to another couple. then we had DS and we pretty much dismissed that idea. I'm still ok with lab research - I figure it's only a potential baby and it may as well - indirectly at least - help some other parents conceive. I think DH would prefer they succumb. But it doesn't really matter since we'll be using them up most likely.
Trouble is MadB I don't have age on my side! I'll be 37 in a few weeks so if we want another then I think we're looking at another two year gap.
I'm pretty sure we'll transfer and i'll have another bad sleeper :P
yeah, fair enough. You've got 18 months on me :p
Just catching up. It's nice to have a few people around who understand.
We no longer have any embryos left (as of about 5 months ago). I always wanted more kids, and i still do actually. I'd do it all again in a heartbeat still. But as time passes i'll get used to it. And i'm not sure if our relationship could cope. DH has embraced his new 'no babies' lifestlye somewhat! Nothing ever quite turns out as planned. I watch as my SIL is going through TTC with Turners Syndrome and i think how lucky i was really.
My endo has gone mad though since breastfeeding stopped. Now, ironically, after TTC for so long - i just wish i didn't have to endure AF every month! I am now hating my 'fertility', ITMS.
MadB - i'd stick with your current clinic.
lise - my number 2 has his own plans when it comes to sleeping. It never seems to matter anymore. But it's tiring when they are so little. I feel for you!
:( Lenny :hug:
It's true that there are good points to not having babies. But that doesn't help much if you really want one. I hope it does get easier
well we had a 9 year gap so imagine now going back to a baby ?... hes into everything but so amazing and he will be one on sunday which i cant believe has gone so fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i still want more .... i maybe insane ??!!.....
we got 6 babies in the freezer in Tassie, heaps cheaper to do ivf there so i'll go back when the time is right...... still dont have AF back ?
no complaints
hi everyone and have a great christmas
Happy Birthday to him JBM :)
9 years.... sweet! If I were younger I'd go for 4-5 year age gaps, I reckon :) Get through the first hard years and into school, then go back again after some sleep!
I'm not sure I would want to go back after sleep MadB, probably a good thing my boys are only two years apart ;)
Happy birthday to DS JBM, can't believe he's one!
I figure I need the break before starting over again! It would be all-round awesome to have the baby and the sleep, of course....
wow!! happy birthday Hunter!! as if it has been a year already!!! crazy =D
I have thought about that MadB, doing it all with one and then start again fresh....but I think once I see the light on the other side I will stuggle harder doing it again =P better to just get it all done in one big continous forever go =P because we all know that sleep never happens again anyway, even when they are grown up =)
Whatever works for you!
I dunno. DS sleeps wonderfully now.
By the time DS1 started sleeping through I was pregnant with DS2, so not too many full night's sleep. Maybe one day. All I know is that I'll take great delight in waking the boys up when they're teenagers and just want to sleep ;)
exactly right MadB, truth is, I am happily giving up all my sleep for my little alien, and all little aliens that choose to join us in the future, whenever they choose to join us. =)
hehe Lise, revenge is sweet!!
yes. i will have to remember to do that!
yeah 1 year ... where did that time go ?????????????
tt40: yes gladly giving up sleep for a baby. :p
thanks everyone
we had a great christmas and Hunter is crawling around everywhere and into everything, sure is fun :clap:
chat soon
happy hatchday Hunter!!!
Spock is now crawling. and even pullung herself up! that is too soon for me!!! she also just got her 2nd tooth.
we are thinking of the next one. if we werent doing ivf i probably would wait until she is 2. but because of it we are going to try when she is 1. i will regret and be sad about not having more children but wont regret having them too soon. even tho Spock is still a baby.