Pregnancy after Long Term TTC #6 - 2009

Saph - I see you are a teacher...I was in a past life too and they certainly make it difficult to get time off don't they? Also it is a bugger having to leave lessons for others etc..sometimes it feels easier just to go in rather than take the time off!!! But you insist! I took a month off just before I resigned with this pregnancy. I had resigned and was finishing at the end of term and school year in July(we finish in July here for Summer) and in June was getting too stressed and sick so I made sure my reports were done and got a sick note for one month. So I literally came back for two days before the end of the school year!! Gave me a chance to say goodbye to the kids and my colleagues but ensured my sanity and health. My school was a hell hole though and going through all sorts of rubbish with a psycho temp headteacher and severely deteriorating behaviour from the kids. The day I was almost trampled by a group of 11 year old boys while on playground duty was the final straw for me! Teachers get too much of a guilt trip put on them anyway. Take whatever time you need. Get that principal in to teach your kids...they could do with a bit of real teaching once in a while to bring them back to earth and make them realise how hard we work!!! Thanks for the story about your Poppy! There are some kids who make it all worth it. My little girl in my last class who made my day was called Zarlsht (pronounced Zarlarsht) Her name was Arabic (like 98% of my class as they were 98% Muslim!!! The other two percent were Eastern European!) Cool name though hey!

Grub- three weeks!!! not long now!

LondonMiss - Welcome! Does your username mean you come from London or did you live there? I have just left London and now live in Somerset. Good luck and enjoy NZ!

Lise, Mitf, Grub and everyone else who has supported me and encouraged me with my family dramas, Thanks so much! You have no idea how much these last few days of me being able to talk about this has helped heal a broken family! I confronted my Dad about a few things and he is no longer going to force my stepmother on us. He actually said he believed that she has serious mental problems and as she is not seeming to be willing to accept help, that the best he can do is keep her away from the people he loves so that she can hurt them no longer. We have offered him support if he feels he has to leave her and I know that he will be spending the next few months thinking this over. He has said that he will come to visit us on his own and acknowledges that even he feels better when she is not around! I told him that if she makes him happy then that is great but he married her, we didn't . She has been so poisonous to my brother and me over the years that we cannot play happy families anymore. Dad even said he is worried about her influence over my baby. Her own adopted children don't want to know her. When she visited one of her sons in hospital she said something to him and he actually screamed at the nurses 'get this woman out of my room!' Her other son has decided not to have children as he is still so scarred from his childhood with her. In fact one of the first things he said to my brother when he first met him was 'so have you worked out yet how much of a b**ch my mother is?' Men she has previously had a relationship with have said to my father that they cannot believe he is still with her! So you sort of get the idea that it is not just me being a difficult stepdaughter!!!
Anyway the crux of it is that Dad and I have decided to forge a new relationship together that does not involve her. He will see me on his own and he is happy with that as he has seen that everyone is happier without her around (even him!) Now he just needs to decide whether he stays with her. I leave that completely up to him and will not pressure him either way.

Anyway hopefully that is the last of my family dramas for a while. It is unbelieveable that just a little bit of venting on here and your supportive messages has done so much.... Thanks so much!!!

Afternoon ladies,

Londonmiss - Welcome and CONGRATULATIONS as grub said everyone is so supportive in here so feel free to ask questions seek reassurance, vent and update!!

Poppyfairy - Keep looking after number 1,2 and 3 (DH + bub!) You sound like a strong woman - this is your time.

Grub - hope your appt goes well today and you enjoy some time with your sister.

Hello to everyone else - sending lots of cyber belly rubs!

AFM - nothing new - waiting waiting waiting!!!! Was having alot of painless braxton hicks this morning so took the dog out for a short walk praying that maybe something was happening - but no everything has settled :lol:. Appt and monitoring tom - which i'm looking forward to - you would think i would be sick of spending so much time making trips to the hosp but i actually enjoy it - weird i know! Anyway another hot but beautiful day in Melbourne.
Hope everyone is looking after themselves.

Will update tom.

xxBella

Thanks Poppyfairy: I think you hit the nail on the head, if they want me now they'll want me latter, I don't need to say do anything right now. :hug:

Grub I'm not wanting any tears rip or cry. OUCH. :D the garden and I are well aquanted atm. I go out most mornings to check on my patch and water every other night, via dripper or hand (depending on stupid water restrictions). DELUX facial sounds so good, and support arrives yayaya. Hope you are taking it easy. My bubs is already central but no launch yet ;)

Thanks BOC. I still have trouble saying "no" to people as I get scared opportunity may not knock twice, but I'll go to the info session on the 23rd and see what I feel at the time, I might see if I can have someone cover for me for the fist 4 weeks then if I don't want to go back there's someone there already. Sorry to hear about the neighbour, I bet his eyes popped out of his head!

Bella thanks for the advice, I'm starting to get a picture Wow you sound like your being watched closely which is good, hope you have a good aircondish and lots of good movies, daytime tv is awful. Funny how I loved it when I was at Uni now it's tragic.

Saph thanks for your input, I am going back to my Managers job in April for similar reasons that you stated but only part time with the option to work from home, The tafe work was a bonus and I really didn't think they started till march which would have been great. Feb is way to early but I guess they're not moving the dates for me.

Airline :leap: well done great news.

Lise :rofl: my bra is the first thing to go when I get home followed by anything else tight fitting. who cares if someone notices one of the joys of being pg.

mitf I have two maternity bras on lay by and am not just thinking I need them, but I think cos my bbs are big already they didn't grow that much. I really just want something with no lace and a bit softer.

GRUB da da da THE TENT! :rofl: you made my day.

Welcome LondonMiss

I think I'm all caught up. I guess it's been a long week and there are loads of posts.

ATM i'm not sleeping. It's been 30C at night and the fan isn't cutting the mustard. I used to love the heat but pg is making me so hot. I could be in a sorong all day I reccon, except that would probably frighten all my staff.

Day off tomorrow and I'm not coming in. You'd all be so proud of me. I've booked 8 spearate days off (my TOIL and RDO's which I haven't taken in ages) so in the next 8 weeks I will be working no more than 4 days each week (i am so proud of myself seriously)

I really needed the hit upside the head too ladies. Thank you, I will go to the info session and then tell the head lecture I need another month, if that doesn't work I'll see what's happening in Term 2. I was starting to panic about how my body would be, the last thing I want is to faint or have an embarassing moment infront of a class, I'd never forget. Thanks Again. :grouphug:

Hi all enjoying my second day off work. Currently marking maths test yeah. Will start writing comments for reports when I am done. Did a little shopping yesterday, went into pumpkin patch, they have the most addorable baby clothes out at the moment. For boys anyway didnt look at girl stuff. I couldnt resist I brought matching jumpers for my 2 boys Campbell wanted to wear his last night and just hold his baby brothers. So Cute. Oh well these maths tests wont mark themselves.

Hi everyone,

Just a very quick update from me.....
Last night i ended up in hosp as i was having lots of back pain and heaps of mild (2/10) braxton hicks contractions, my bp was also elevated. So after monitoring and an internal (cervix soft but only 1cm dilated) i was given some panadeine forte to see if things slowed/stopped..... Things slowed so i went home... conclusion pre/very early labour. So i then had my clinic appt today where it was decided to hold off on induction (which was due to be Friday) and see if i progress further. So plan is ultrasound and monitoring Tuesday and Friday assuming the growth discrepancy isn't worsening i will be left to "see what happens" I also need to keep an eye on my BP as i have confirmed pregnancy induced hypertension.
So i feel good - obviously it's 10 times better to go natural rather than induction and they seem to be keeping a close eye on me so hopefully everything will be ok.
So i am now trying all the natural things - curry, walking (although so much groin pain!), rasberry leaf, and maybe maybe if i can convince DH some SEX!!!!!!

Better go as DH has cooked dinner....Chicken Vindaloo!!!!!

xxBella

Oooh Bella! Wishing you luck over the weekend hun! :crossfingers: for a good natural outcome for you! Hope you get those little bubbas in your arms soon!

:goodluck: bella i to hope your little ones come this weekend all by them selves, hang in there sweety gee your going great.

BOC...:dance: loving your pics hunny gee your as big as me lol your belly is beautiful hunny .

AFM..:goodone: pmsl weell i dtd with dh yesterday and oh boy was it good worth waiting for i tell ya GO DH it was very funny he was skipping through the house yesterday lol..
but gee it was different with this big bump i actually said to dh" do you feel like your rideing a camel "
anyways girls enough from me going to vacume today and wash the sheets :o

hay saph what grade do you teach? enjoy your home time hope there's not too much marking.

Bella :lol: you have to convince DH? I guess at the end it would be nerve racking, I'd hate for my water to go in the heat of passion. :lol: it went through my mind this morning, I have way too active imagination. Glad you're hanging in there. Goodluck

Smith :rofl: you are a clown! I hope DH didn't say "yes" I'd smack him. I must admit my drive is so high atm, poor DF is so tired from working in this heat but I corner him every now and then. I just love your new belly shot, you are so round :D love it.

ATM glad to be home. My class room was so hot and my students were good till 1 so I let them go. I felt awful when I got home, hot, dizzy and swolen, I think I need to take it alot easier in the heat, I had to park ages away due to xmas pagent and it was a bit far in 39C. Also cost me $17 for 5 hours, they really do rip people off dont they, it's a parking space! not a car wash!

Glad to be home, slowly doing some washing as all pg cloths that are cool are dirty. Hanging out in a sarong but not for public viewing.

Hope it's cool were you are ladies :grouphug:

:D harry high pants here just signing in to say have a wonderful sunday girls im thinking of you all ,happy belly growing :lol:

Hi Girls,

I am SO SORRY its taken me so long to get online to tell you my news but I have been so tired since I got home from hospital and our bloody internet at home ive hijacked the inlaws internet!!!

Well :itsaboy: Trent Paul was born on 4 November at 2.09pm weighing 8lb 6oz. It was a difficult birth as in the end he was lying tranverse so it took my OB awhile to pull him out. He had some fluid on his lungs too so they had to put him in a humi crib for a few hours but he was able to spend the first night in the room with us which was good. They also had trouble putting the spinal block in, tried 3 times before they ended up putting in an epidural. The whole experience was very overwhelming. I found breastfeeding the hardest especially since he lost over 10% of his body weight so had to feed him every 3 hours and they nearly made us stay in hospital an extra day too because of it.

Since being home, I have had next to NO sleep. Trent damaged one of my nipples within a few days and now Im off the whole thing so I am now madly expressing milk every 2-3 hours and feeding it to him out of a bottle. Also, he isnt the best of feeders anyway so since hospital, have been having to top him up with formula too so he is getting both.

I really want to breastfeed for 6 months but I know if I had to do it from my boob, Id give up sooner rather than later. Doing it this way, hopefully he will get breast milk for longer. I have such large breasts too that its hard to position him and with the heat we've had of late, its even harder.

I will be keeping an eye out on everyones progress when I get the chance.

Take care girls and thank-you so much for all your support during my pregancy. I couldnt of done it without you :D

Tania xx

Miss M : Congrats on the arrival of Trent :dance::dance:, I've been hovering waiting to hear your news. Such a big boy as well... I can sympathise re the b/fing and know how tiring it is with a lazy eater and having to express as well. Hopefully after a couple of weeks he will pick up on the feedings for you.

Tara started out with her feeds taking 1 1/2 hours and on 3 hourly feeds, she now only takes between 30-45 minutes (including nappy change) to get through her feeds. I hope to see you in the parenting thread when you get some free time :lol:. I have found the girls there to be a huge help with all the changes that happen in the first weeks. Once again huge congrats to you and DP.

:dance::dance: MM yay congrats on the arrival of little (big )trent :dance:
i hope all settles with the b/f hun it is hard sometimes, but good on you for trying it will either work or it wont hun never works out for me :redface: but thats ok ,take care sweety and i also hope you get a good sleep soon.

hello kelly :lol:

Oh Miss M congrats. I can tell you boys are very special. but then I am bias. My advise re the breast feeding try a nipple sheild for a few weeks. And if it doesnt work dont beat yourself up about it nobody tells you how friggin hard it all is.

Smithy I had to have a chuckle over DtD with DH. As a random act of kindness my DH got a bit last night and we had the same conversation. Bit uncomforatable with a lump in the way.

AFM after my good effort of taking a day off or two I have undone all the good today. Finally couldnt deal with the mess around the house anymore so whirl wind cleaning, I even vaccumed the blinds and the walls. Now I am very sore and tired. Oh and to add just another amount of pressure to the situation we are toilet training DS before the new baby gets here. LOL

Congratulations Miss Magpie on the birth of Trent! Hope the probs with BFing settle down soon.

Smithy - chuckled over your DTD story as well! All this DTD talk has reminded me how good it is these days!!! After 7 years of TTC sex it is great just to do it for fun!! I remember hearing other women talking about great sex and wondering what the fuss was...just seems we had forgotten!! I remember when it got really bad in those 7 years when DH and I had an argument mid-DTD over who's turn it was to be on top!!!!!:redface:;):) Although I must admit now that the bump is starting to get in the way!!! Maybe we should start a thread on Bump Avoidance Positions!! LOL!!!:o;)

Saph - enjoy your time off. The good thing about marking maths tests is there is either a right or wrong answer. I hated marking essays or reading tests...so much fudge room to deliberate over!!

Bella - good luck with your natural methods of induction! Hope to hear news soon!

I just wanted to pop in and say hi to all you lovely pregnant women!!!

And a huge congrats to Miss M on the arrival of Trent!!!! Well done!!! I hear you on the BF'ing, I had major nipple damage and now expressing and botle feeding with formula top ups. Just do you best and what's best for you is not necessarily what's best for someone else, and do not beat yourself up.

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Smithy - chuckled over your DTD story as well! All this DTD talk has reminded me how good it is these days!!! After 7 years of TTC sex it is great just to do it for fun!! I remember hearing other women talking about great sex and wondering what the fuss was...just seems we had forgotten!! I remember when it got really bad in those 7 years when DH and I had an argument mid-DTD over who's turn it was to be on top!!!!!:redface:;):) Although I must admit now that the bump is starting to get in the way!!! Maybe we should start a thread on Bump Avoidance Positions!! LOL!!!:o;)

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:rofl: what a good idae and how funny you you are hun :D it is so true though i think i really did forget how much fun it can be insted of oh well i guess we have to OR no we cant today :p wow who would have thunk it i love normal sex pmsl.

Miss m...I haven't been able to follow your whole story as have only recently joined in this forum...but CONGRATULATIONS...and wow!! you sound like wonderwoman!! I hope things start to fall into place routine wise with your wee Trent, and you get some well deserved rest.

It's so nice to read stories about the 'outcome' as well as all the bits in between :D

Smithy your camel story.....!! I know it's early, early days but I am so tired in bed at 8.30 most nights, napping during day etc... I knew poor DH had been soooo patient since half way through the IVF cycle....I also knew he was getting desperate, although he didn't say anything except compliment me A LOT! .... so I offered to 'help him' but not 'fully participate' :o:redface::o:redface: He was happy ;)

:DAIRLINE... oh i no just how you feel hun i didnt let dh actually touch me until about a week ago i was just so scared of something happening so i would do the same and help him out with other things ,the good old tub of sorbalene cream and the hand does wonders :dance: but now im feeling like i want the real thing :redface:
i just have to work out how im going to do it next time as my dh has a very big belly to (from beer lol) so just imagine 2 huge belly hitting each other :p theres a big gap in between us pmsl ...gotta get creative here i think

Good morning lovely ladies,

MissMag - CONGRATULATIONS! Hope everything begins to settle down and ditto to all the other ladies advice re: BF - do whats right for you. Take care. xxx

Gosh everyone seems to be "getting a bit" atm :clap::clap: ha ha!

AFM - nothing to update. Everything has gone quiet! Still having BH on and off all day and so much pressure and groin pain when i'm upright i feel like not only are the babies going to come out but they are going to take all my insides as well!!! So not moving very far from home esp alone. DH has started his holidays early so at least he can take me out and about now and i will have some entertainment - going quiet stir crazy.
Off for ultrasound, monitoring, bloods etc tom so will wait and see what tom brings.

Take care everyone.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxBella

Hi girls!
Well it has been 10 weeks since I last read this thread...time flies!
Have just seen that Miss M and Neptune have had their babies - congratulations!
Will try to follow everyone's progress a little more closely, but am always thinking of you.
AFM, baby Zach is doing well - such an amazing precious time.
Take care all!
Mels xxx

Big CONGRTULATIONS Miss Tania and welcome Trent!

hope the feeding and such setles down for you shortly lovely.

would you ladies mind stop the DTD talk lol you are making me extremely jealous!!! husband away 8 weeks, preggy hormones!!! aarrggghhh! :wall:

Two weeks on thursday til DH comes home. so excited.

My sis is here atm that's why i'm not on much... but my subscription wasn't coming through for some reason.

anyhoo baby shower was on the weekend, it was lovely, i laughed so much my belly hurt and had a great time. very spoilt.

have finished the nursery as well! it's all happeneing. bubby is having a dance at the moment and fur baby is asleep on sis's lap :)

Bella - hope those bubs get moving!

hi to everyone else.

oxo

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awww Grub :hug: never mind, although all this DTD talk I reckon your DH will barely make it through the door and you'll be pouncing on him, he'll think all his Christmases have come at once :rofl: YAY for only 2 more weeks though!

Miss Magpie: CONGRATULATIONS on the safe arrival of your little man! Hope everything settles in soon for you!

Smithy: thank you so much for the visuals, I have these images of two bellies in my brain :lol: Love love love your little tum though! Thanks for giving us a good laugh with your story though!

Grennslw: For $17 they'd want to wash your car too! And valet service at that! Nothing wrong with the sarong, I do it often. Although ATM just as happy wandering around in bra & undies. Have warned people to call first before they come around and if they choose to ignore well they can just enjoy the sight LOL. Oh but I do have to remind myself every now and then, almost caught myself going out in my undies to bring in the bins this morning!

Bella: Hope you're doing ok, keeping our :crossfingers: for you that there's movement at the station soon!

:bellyrubs: to everyone else.

AFM: well I must be one of the few who are not on the casmel-riding bandwagon. I'm unfortunately just not enjoying it that much right now. A bit uncomfortable with the belly and still a little paranoid that something might go wrong. Luckily for me DH has been working huge hours lately (he normally does about 13hrs a day but last week threw in a couple of 15hr days too) so it's the last thing he wants when he gets home. I was all for it at the end of the first tri but now... :shakehead:

Had a busy weekend, had my first Braxton Hicks start on Saturday! Right in the middle of watching a wedding! Luckily they weren't too bad. I was a little worried that they had started too early but did some research and apparently you can get them as early as 2 months but anything from 20 weeks on is about average. Had some more this morning that were a little stronger and I stopped what I was doing and got a couple of funny looks but just made out like nothing was happening. It's interesting to know what they feel like though.

Stage 1 of nursery decoration has commenced! Went to Sydney to visit DH eldest son & family and picked up our gorgeous change table console. It's awesome, has 3 drawers on one side, 2 cupboard doars on the other and the change table has a slider that opens to reveal a slot to put a baby bath! I'm just wondering though, it's timber and I really wanted white, but it's also a little scratched so I'm thinking we will prob paint it white. Also picked up all my soft furnishings so hopefully over the next few days I'll get started putting things together, then next week I'll be going cot shopping with my mum.

Anyway better stop rambling, just got a phone call with an urgent job assignment that needs to be done in the next couple of hours and they're going to double my fee for the inconvenience! :hooray:

Have a great day & keep cool! Catch you all soon!

well hi all, Thought I would come and tell you I am so bored that I have been actually writing my reports for some fun. Thank god for play group in an hour. Campbells toilet training is coming along nicely but he prefers to pee in the garden. LOL

If you think you have had a bad day.... Warning WAY TMI...

If you are squeamish turn away now... Well.. My bad day kinda started yesterday... I swallowed the ball on the top of my tongue stud :doh:.. So I rang my midwife and after explaining what a dufus I had been she reassured me that eveything was ok and that I just had to make sure it re-emerges out the other end... I think you get my drift.. So anyway... I have had the worst constipation since the day I found out that I was PG so I figured this may take a couple of days for anything to "emerge" as it were and it had pretty much only been at night that I have had to go so I was confident that I had this under control... But no... At about 9.00am this morning the urge takes me and... Yep... I'm at work... Now I move around a lot for work and work with a heap of different people so while I know these people I haven't worked the side by side type of thing with them and were besties or anything like that... So I have to decide what I am going to do about this because disappearing into the only toilet in the building for what could take a while (and armed with a bizarre array of containers and implements) may cause some consternation... So I have to fess up to what I am up to... I have found a new and darker shade of red than I knew existed... So anyway... I am now armed with an icecream container and a piece of wood with a nice flat end cause it was all pebbly and I had to smash each one open to check if the ball was inside... It wasn't... So now I have to wait and do this all over again and I hope that it won't be tomorrow at work again... Sorry if this freaked you out but I just figured that if I could help one person feel better about their day then it would kinda make it worth while (lol.. not even close to worthwhile but what choice do I have)... And I bet that at some point in our parenting lives we will all have to sift through the poo of our child to relocate something weird they have swallowed... I'm just getting in some practice... Enjoy your night ladies... :rofl:

:redface: littlemisshavachat! i felt mortified for you reading your post. Not so much the digging but the having to share what you were doing! lol. you poor thing. Found it yet? I did find my digestion changed completely with pregnancy... personally i like the comfort of home iykwim and then all the sudden it's happening at work and we only have 1 loo... hated it.

anyhoo, saph that is a sad case of the boreds! lol. If you are looking for a giggle and want to waste time go and hire Lesbian Vampire Killers from the video store. Yes it's about lesbian vampires who kill...it's a britsh comedy/mock up of those vampire movies and it''s hilarious :) and very cute image in my head of a little boy weedling in the garden lol.

boc - yep, I have dreams nearly every night now about dtd with Dh... but not exotic erotic dirty dreams.. very pedestrian and real to life. I also dream about kissing him! i love it, it's like sleep time is my little DH fix! They pushed the coures out ANOTHER day! so he'll be home 2 weeks on Friday... considering I'm 37 weeks this Sunday, I"m not particurly over joyed at that. But what do you do? Glad my sis is here atm but i can feel i will very much struggle in those 2 weeks. It' hard! I need DH home now. Plus bub is making me very uncomfy, i've gotten very big and get tired. it's all a bit much to do alone really. ... ah well... gotta go get my cup of cement, as they say.


Boc, it's weird getting BH hey! sometimes i'm not sure if its them or not. but have notice them more lately.

Did a breastfeeding class at our hospy yesterday. Loved it (boc make sure you do it if you are going to NPH), they very much push breast, bonding, cosleeping and getting what YOU want from your stay. We can even have skin-2-skin and a feed in theatre if having a c-sect - all we need to do is demand it and the midwife said "they can't say no, so you tell them'' lol. But in even more exciting news, she showeds us how to hand express! it's so easy! i had a play while waiting for the kettle to boil and THEY WORK! i got colostrum outta them babies! It was a strange experience and i was surprised... (can you tell i thought my equipment would be faulty lol why not? every other woman bit of mine apparently is!).

ooh dear, written too much. SIs and i are off to take a look around and get some final flourishes for bubba's room :) oxoxo

Good morning ladies,

Lilmiss - oh my god :redface: glad it's you and not me!!!!!

Grub - I can sympathise with the disscomfort - have fun out shopping - don't do to much and glad your equipment is in working order ha ha!

Hello and big belly rubs to all.

AFM - had appt at hosp yest - it was great! I finally got some answers and a definate plan. I was scaned by an obstitritian/consultant and i had a bit of a winge about that other ****er junior doctor who keeps leaving me in limbo, i also complained that i felt i was falling through the cracks a bit and that i wanted a definate plan - she really listened and sympathised with me so from now i am only to be seen and looked after by her or her senior registrar :dance:.
So new plan - BP/monitoring Friday and review by the registrar in preg day care if all good then same again Tues but she will also do an internal on the Tuesday to see if i am dilated further then induction Friday 27th November :dance:. If i'm at least 3cm or so dilated they will just break my waters no need for the gel (which is great) This is all assuming i don't go natural in the meantime - so 9 MORE SLEEPS AT MOST FOR ME AND MY BOYS!!!!!!!
I feel so much better having a plan and i know i will be watched closely.
My scan yesterday was good but my little twin (twin2) is only 10th percentile now weighing 2.0 so they would like him in a bit longer if possible. Twin 1 was 2.6! But blood flow and fluid levels are perfect.

Sorry for the me post just wanted to update everyone. Please send lots of labour vibes my way!

xxBella

Take 2 at post yesterday I got so sidetracked at work I closed the post :(

:bluecheer: Well done MissMagpie :bluecheer: thank you for sharing your birth, it sounded like you had to work hard. I hope all is getting easier day by day.

Saph is somebody NESTING? :)

Bella glad DH is with you I think I'd want as much support as possible. esp when the birth is so close. Glad you have a plan. Bet that is making you feel more relaxed.

Hi Mels glad Zach is going great :)

Grub :lol: your DH isn't going to get 1 foot in the door before you pounce is he? lucky man.

BOC Lol I wrote the post for Grub seams you and I are on the same wave length LOL about the bras and undies. Bugga the warning just put an entre at own risk sign on the door. Oh no the neighbours may have got a nice surprise in the morning. :D

Lilmiss dam about the ball swallowing, did you gasp? last time I did it infront of a class. I almost choked. I never looked for it though

ATM it's 39C in Adelaide, the gods are crazy. It's NOVEMBER!

Had a team building session this morning which I paid big bucks for out of my budget and asked the presenter to go slow as my staff can be "emotional" well the little buggas all thought it didn't haven enough meet to it and they wanted more. I can never please them, they are like 12 year old girls and 55 year old menapausal women all in one.

It was DSS b'day yesterday :D 16. He had a great day went with DF to the firing range, DSS want's to go to the army so it's up his ally. DF made roast (I had vegies) and we had a cake, I sang but nobody else. Oh well then DSS helped me through a tricky part in a game he gave me. It was so nice seeing his joy. Now he's practicing for his L's He's so big. I've known him since he was 8. He's a real man these days. Kind heart, is being so helpful with me being pg. I know it's the hormones but I'm teering up. Just wanted to share how lucky I am to have DSS.

Hi girls, remember me?
I'm so sorry I haven't been back to post and probably still won't be able to come in for a while (and anyway, I'm meant to move on to the next thread but I will miss you all so much til you are in there too).

I have read lots of the latest posts to catch up today and again, I'm sorry for no big personals, it's mostly about me to let you know where things have been and how things are going. I can't take on the newbies, so I have to leave you in the care of the gorgeous old hands in here (i.e Grub, Smithy, BOC and others). You'll know yourselves when you reach the point and have to move on and shock horror, with babe in arms, you no longer get quite as much joy from other relationships;).

Miss Magpie...huge and mighty congrats on little man Trent and your big effort to get him into the world safely!! I have to tell you though that staying an extra day was the least of my worries, if I hadn't fought to find common sense in the whole of the hospital system in Cairns, we would have only just got let out yesterday when Jasmine reached the magical healthy weight range they wanted her in (2.5 kilos)! Somewhat ridiculous when we have been gaining that weight at home happily and healthily.

Jasmine weighed 2.44kg at birth and for the lack of 60 g she was threatened every 5 minutes with being supplementary fed, placed in special care again and taken from me. I'm happy to say that she got one supplementary feed (though fights and tension ensued between special care nurses and breast feeding advocate midwives. Score 1 to excellent midwife and us, Jasmine threw up her only supplementary feed:p. It's very contraversial, you have to sign papers to say it's okay to supp feed and they didn't do that with me. the midwife was livid and it was mighty tense. Its my choice, it's not that I judge what other people choose or are forced to decide. It was a wholly stressful ordeal for me and I so nearly came to blows with one hovering (get your boobs out midwife). We finally got a conditional leave pass, we were released to my local hospital which is a gorgeous warm and welcoming old heritage hospital. I cried my heart out that first night because I had no idea how long it would be before they released us and watching my beautiful DH walk away yet another day without his girls was heartbreaking. You have to feel for these wonderfully supportive men of ours who support us the absolute most and can't even stay with you and share that time in your life. My hospital room in Mossman was lovely and I was a guest there really, with Jazzy the patient. the staff were excellent, had loads of common sense, never once threatened to take our baby and set me up with my own bathing and changing station where after 5 days we gave her her first bath and we had a lovely old cane bassinet. I had a single room and ensuite which opened to big sweeping verandah in an old people's ward. How gorgeous, I was woken to the sounds of Slim Dusty and one morning one of the locals brought in her 4 month old grandson to visit me. How funny. It was the complete opposite experience to the surgical environment in Cairns. Surgical environments have their place, but not long term. You get treated like a number and not a person. In Mossman we were celebrities, we had visits from every staff member rotating through a shift as babies are such a rare thing there these days. Even me as a caesarian case was useful to train staff up on so it was an amazing experience to feel so welcome and embraced and in charge of my baby above all else. It was a relief to get out of cairns, it was freezing cold and sterile and don't get me started but every girl I met, hated the experience, the culture of threatening to take your baby and supplementary feed and every nurse and midwife expecting you to get your boobs out and show them your attachment. Man I wasted so many years being a prude when i could have been a porn star or at least a lot less inhibited! I've had my boobs out for every man woman and dog I've seen since starting this breastfeeding gig and although we are pretty good with the whole thing, you don't have the rapport with everyone you meet to flop em out and get going iykwim! And I tell you what, there are occasions where you just can't be discreet when your boob is exploding and spraying and you are laughing behind your wrap which is threatening to expose you as your baby tugs both boob and wrap and milk is pouring out. that was my experience yesterday (just an ordinary day out at the audiologists where even there, they expect you to breast feed you baby as part of relaxing your baby...what the...??? Anyway after two visits I'm an old pro and what's a bit of exploding breast milk between you and a young male audiologist!!! You have to know me to know I'm kidding, although it's true and it's all just a huge learning experience.

Oh, oops, by the way, thank you all sooooooo much for your support and congrats to both me and DH on our birth. It was an overwhelming feeling of love and warmth and we both appreciated it so much. Now promise there won't be tears when I tell you a little bit of our news and what we have been dealing with. Promise!!! I have made my family and friends cry when we havent' even cried ourselves (yet maybe), but Jazzy has been diagnosed profoundly deaf in both ears. It was confirmed yesterday and honestly we are not upset. It's a challenge and poses hurdles and we will do everything to give her the best life and best chances at hearing or communicating but we dont' have a clear picture yet, there are lots of tests to find out what her damage is and if she can be fitted for hearing aids, cochlear implants or whatever other options. for now we continue to talk as normal and treat her no differently. There are masses of support available and someone is even doing a house visit way up here tomorrow, so that's pretty damn impressive. So no tears for us...this girl is gorgeous and her Dad said yesterday "she is the most beautiful thing I've seen in my whole life". Being the scientist that he is, he backed this up by saying that he'd thought long and hard about saying it but as beauty is in the eye of the beholder it is most definitely true. I have to admit, all bias aside, DH never looked more beautiful to me than the moment of looking into his eyes at her birth and nothing looks as beautiful as my little girl. You will all feel the same and it's amazing and I believe Janie when she says, it just gets better.

P.S I love everything about these early days and weeks. Ithought it would be a time to just kind of get through and I'd be scared to be left alone and feel overwhelmed, but it's just wonderful and cheesey as it sounds, we are just so incredibly blessed.

Love and miss you all stax but can't really come back til I get my new computer.

Ange xox

oh bella, i'm so glad your concerns were taken seriously. good on you for standing up for yourself ;)

had to cut our shopping trip shrt... i did a major stack comign out of a shop, fell down the gutter and onto the road. Was considerate enough to land mostly on my sister LOL so she got a bloody knee while i got a grazed leg and a big fright. Lucky didn't land on my belly but rang the doc and she so long as there's no bleeding and bub is moving its okay. But scared my sis and i all the same.

but bub is on the move atm so i'm very relieved. fur baby is providing comfort cuddless.

greeslw - oh i feel how much you love your dss. i'd say he's a lucky boy! good luck with the driving lessons lol.

oxox

Murph :hug: - I'm sorry, but I did have a tear in my eye - but it was because of how much love I heard in your voice. How lucky your little Jasmine is to have you and your DH as her mum and dad. I am sure that there will be challenges ahead but having you two to guide her and love her, Jasmine will do just great. And trust me it does just get better and better.

I'm looking forward to hearing more about how you guys are going. In the meantime - soak up those early days because believe you me - one day you will wake up and she will be 7 months old and you will wonder where did the time go! I look back at my Jasmine's early photos and can't quite believe how much she has changed - it really does happen in a heart beat.

Sending you all so much love.

Janie and Jasmine xxx

murph, we must have posted at the same time :) No tears here lovely. I'm sad she has this hurdle in front of her, but she is loved, and she WILL communicate - she might not be a chattering box but I bet she'll write as much as her mummy and be expressive and as kind as you and DH.

its only one small part, albeit a improtant one for those who have it, but she will never know and she will make up for it in so many other ways. not only that, the developments in science thesedays means she will have the world open as her oyster like all others bubs born today...

Big hugs for the times ahead lovely. We all know what a strong woman you are and what a wonderful man you have by your side.

I was soo moved by your words about your DH. what a lucky man you have, you both obviously adore each other.

glad mossman were able to make it up to you a bit for cairns' rubbish care.

with love! to you all oxox

Murph - sorry but i have shed a tear not for saddness but because your post was so moving. You are an amazing person and i believe jasmine is very lucky to have such a person for a mum! I can also feel the love in your family and you will all travel along this path of life with strength dignity and love. Take care and enjoy this special time.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxBella

:hug: oh murph i to am shedding a tear hun but also not because i feel sorry for you or anything like that but at how bloody strong you are. i tell you what you have one very lucky little girl there with a mummy and daddy with such a wonderful attitude :clap: and spirit, that post you just did hun is just beautiful and i thank you for sharing ,you have been such a support to so many of us now i hope we can all be here to help and support you. IM SO VERY PROUD OF YOU :hug:
take care sweety of you and your beautiful little family xoxo

Murph: So happy to hear from you and I too have felt quite emotional reading your post. After all the problems you have had with your pregnancy from the d/s scare to your traumatic birth I am so proud of you and Jasmine couldn't have chosen better parents. I'm sure that you will treat her like any normal little girl who is just a bit more special than all the others and it is a whole new world for you to experience as a family together.

I look forward to hearing more of your journey and am sending you lots of hugs and best wishes.

Hello again,
awww, your comments were so sweet, there were most definitely tears! I also made a friend up the road cry, an old hardened mum and grandma, she was so upset for us. I put Jasmine straight in the car and turned up at her house right as tea was on the table and said how can you be sad when we are all so happy? She loved it and was surprised at how well she is after first seeing the wee little thing in hospital.

can you please let me know if anyone is able to view a few of my pics on face book? You shouldn't have to be a face book user to view on the link we used, so smithy you should be good to view (I hope so, you'll love her).

I've been meaning to do this for ages but have finally pinned DH down to do it for me. Hope you can see my photos. It takes ages to upload them onto face book and as you can see I barely use face book so I'll post more later if you are interested. xoxo

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=10945&id=100000144321153&l=cce936e76 8

:loveshower::cheer::loveshower: awwww murph i could see the pics and oh my goodness jazzy is just so beautiful im melting here rite now .
you have done so well my friend and thank you for letting us have a look at your beauty:lol:you were rite I LOVE HER LOL.

Hellooooo!

Murph: Oh you gorgeous thing! You are so strong it's an inspiration! Jazzy will be just fine and is very lucky to have the two of you as her parents! By the way she is a very cute & tiny little poppet! Love the photos! I'm glad you ended up in Mossman, seems like it was the perfect place to be in the end.

Bella: WOOHOO!!! 8 more sleeps max! Man when I get to your point I'm gonna go insane LOL. Glad you stood up for yourself ansd finally got taken seriously! Wishing you a smooth and trouble-free delivery.

Grub: Yes I'm booked in for the b/f classes already but thanks for the tip. Glad to hear you got something out of it! So what's the countdown now til DH gets home?

lilmisshavachat: :rofl: oh sorry to laugh but you just gave me the giggles. As if with IVF etc we don't have enough to explain to people but now you have to add your poo habits LOL. Just for good measure though, I would have hidden the sorting implements & when you came out of the bathroom, tried to shake hands with them, just to stir them up hahaha the looks on their faces would have been priceless.

Saph: Oh dear... that bored??? Well I guess on the bright side it must mean Campbell is being a good boy!

Haven't had a post from our friend Harry lately, she must be too busy making up for lost :bd: time with DH LOL

:hello: to everyone else! Hope you're all :bellygrowing: away nicely!

AFM: Not much happening here. Yesterday was DH's birthday and I deliberately arranged to have our 20wk scan then as a little "present" for him. Well it worked a treat! "Best birthday ever!" he said last night! Cookie is all good, albeit stubborn. The little bugger has refused at every scan to let us see his/her face, curls up in a little ball with back to us every time we try. But the rest of the time was having a ball in there... swinging off the umbilical cord!!! The sonographer was almost falling off her chair laughing, said she'd never seen that before. We're now measuring 2 days larger than original EDD (although we're not changing dates), which is fantastic considering that at our 7 week scan we were almost a week behind.

So all that being said... 20 WEEKS TODAY!!!! (except my stupid ticker still keeps mucking up!)
:dance: :hooray: :loveshower: :leap:

I am so happy, I honestly never thought we'd make it this far, and I know it's all a downhill run from here. Everyone's telling me the last 20 weeks will fly! I hope so. Can't wait til my baby shower, I've had 3 different people asking if they can throw one for me, so I've just told them to put their heads together and go for it! Awww way to feel loved! I went into Toys R Us/Babies R Us the other day and started a registry for everything I have left to get. Got a nice little goodie bag too, and we sat at the table that night and went gaga over the teeny newborn-sized bottles. It's soooo great seeing DH so genuinely happy & excited it just makes me melt every day. He's not a man that gets excited over anything so it makes it extra special. Every time he talks about Cookie his chest puffs up with pride! So cute!

Anyway hope you all have a great Thursday!

Oh Murph, Jasmine is so very lucky to have a loving and supportive Mummy and Daddy.
Tears of love roll down my face on your sweet words for the love of your beautiful girl.
You and your DH will do whatever is needed for Jasmine and know that we are fortunate to live in this country where so many medical things can be done when needed.

Enjoy these early days as Janie said they fly so fast and soon you too will be waking up to a toddler and chasing her around.

Sending you a cyber :hug: not in sadness but in your love and strength.

BTW, your little Miss is soooo cute!!! Gosh they grow so fast

Murph- Jasmine is absolutely gorgeous! Your time in Mossman sounds lovely. Just the sort of thing you need after clinical hospitals. I hear you about the boobs. After IVF and years of gynae investigations every Tom, **** and Harry has seen 'down below' but the boobs have been my last bastion of modesty!!! I am inspired also by you with your attitude about Jasmine's hearing. Everything is going to be just fine...Big hugs!

Boc - Great news about the scan...so did you see any telltale gender signs accidentally? I know you don't want to know but did you accidentally sneak a peek? LOL! You sound like you have some great friends around you too organising you a baby shower. Enjoy!!!

Bella - wow only eight days!!! Good luck!

Grub - Oh dear! Glad everything is Ok with bubs but hope you were not hurt too much in the fall. Sometimes the shock of falling is bad enough! We just are not prepared for it as adults!

Everyone else Belly rubs!!!!

AFM - Scan in two days!! Hopefully we get the nice sonographer again as she will let us take our time looking. The last one only looked for his face because I asked her to as she had finished the scan in two seconds flat. I see the midwife tomorrow so will ask her about this pubic bone pain. Kills to turn over in bed and get up or do anything really that involves lifting my knees. It is not actually at the front of the pubic area but (TMI sorry!!!) underneath each side of my vulva IYKWIM.

Busy couple of weeks ahead...We go up to Manchester to visit DH's parents. I am hoping there might be a big box of nappies waiting for us there! Or the money to order them off the net! It is the only thing we have asked for so I don't feel too bad.
Then my friend from London is bringing her new boyfriend to meet us. We have had to put the moses basket in the guest room temporarily so we have to remember to take it out before they come. She is hoping to settle down and have babies soon and I am not sure how far their negotiations have got in that way so I don't want to look like we are dropping big hints to the new boyfriend!!! No pressure at all!!!
Then my Dad is coming (ALONE!!!!) and then my brother. Then I think it might almost be time for me to have a baby! I still haven't washed all his little clothes. I said I would do it week 30 but that has passed! I have however almost finished crocheting him a blanket and I have begun a cloth mobile for his hammock. I also crocheted him a jumper and hat and sewed and crocheted a bunny blanket. So I haven't totally been slack in the preparation area!

oh Murph, she is so tiny and precious. I can't wait to see how much bigger she will get very soon.

Oh, by the way.... Got my first real smile this morning, wow they grow so fast.