Pregnancy after Long Term TTC - Jan 2008

Yep...Felix is sleeping better now...YAYAYAYAYAY!!!

Taking him off the Nurofen seemed to help as well as giving him some Dimetapp to dry up his mucousy throat...poor little thing...he's so used to having syringes in his mouth that he can almost self-administer!!!

I figured out the 1200 feeds at 1am yesterday morning...strange ways to amuse yourself whilst feeding!!!

We bought an Ikea cot too! Really happy with it! We did the reversible car seat as well. I can certainly see the advantages of a capsule but like Mako, we thought it was one of those things that we could probably go without!

I don't think I told you guys...but on Felix's first trip in the car (leaving hospital), I sat in the back with him (partly because the car was packed with stuff as we were moving straight to my Mum and Dad's due to the renovations). Anyway...I said to DH, "Felix really doesn't look very comfortable"...he was all crouched over with his head hanging down and his little chin bobbing on his chest.

It was only a day later that we realised that we forgot to recline the baby seat!!! Oopsy!!!

And...the strange thing is...we took the seat to have the fit safety checked before he was born and they didn't even notice that!!!

Lenny...a wriggler, hey? Know what they are like!!! All the best with trying to reduce your working hours! It's lovely if you can get a bit of time off before baby arrives...

Anyway...hope all is going well for everyone...

Ltl Panda...you doing okay?

Best wishes to all...

Monnie How lucky was it that you sat in the back with Felix. I'm sure you aren't they only parents who for got to recline the seat.
I'm pleased Felix is better now and yeh we sure do think about the strangest things while we are feeding our bubs all hours of the day and night lol.

Does anyone know when Lttl Panda is due to have her bub? I know its not too far away but she hasn't been here for a while and I'm hoping everything is ok.

Hi everyone, happy Aussie Day...not that i've been very patriotic myself. A simple movie, grocery shopping and home to read and relax - not exactly too Aussie, but that's cool!

Sazz, so great to hear from you. You sound so all together, walking 3km's already, post caesar, home and expressing, it all seems too much for 1 person, but nup, you're on to it, or at least come across that way. Congrat's and big hugs to little Celeste (and DH too of course!)

We've gone the reversible car seat too, rather than hiring a capsule for now (though SIL swears by the hiring), the $$$'s seem to add up so quickly don't they! But it is a personal needs thing i think. We're picking it up tomorrow when we go and collect the pram (were meant to go today but the memory things kinda deteriorated for both DH and I, so we forgot when we were in town and are too lazy to drive back now).

I think Ltl Panda is due in 2 weeks?? She can't be much more than that as i'm only a few wks behind her...hope all's good there, maybe she'll have a real little Aussie Day bubba, who knows!

One of my close mates is having an emby transfer today and i've told her if it implants and leads to a birth, her bub will be permanently named Ozzi or skip, if you could all send good vibes it would be much appreciated, she's been on such a long IVF journey and this time she's come out with so many viable eggs we're all just hoping and praying for her that one takes!

Anyway, all's good here, bub's moving around alot despite the supposed lack of space by this stage (yeah, whatever!) and the midwife said she's started to engage which is exciting. I start back at work on tues, but have decided to bring mat. leave forward and finish up earlier than initially planned (in 2-3 weeks)...they'll get over it, i figure everyone's replacable and given i'm eager to rush through the month of Feb and meet bubs, my mind isn't going to be focused on work at all is it! LOL
Hope you're all well.

Hi everyone.

Sazz - I hope all is well with all of you. Sounds very traumatic from the sounds of things.

Nothing much to report from here except it looks like I might be getting SPD - the pain started in my pubic region last night whenever I moved so didn't get a lot of sleep. I'm much better off sitting or walking slowly so I'll just have to keep upright as much as possible. Hoping it will go away but from what I've read about it, it tends to stay til after delivery (if that's what it is, could be jumping the gun a bit).

Kimbe - sending positive vibes to your gf. We all know what a roller coaster ride this is. Good on you for finishing up early - i'm going to try really hard to do 7 hour days for the next few weeks and see how it goes.

Monnie - thanks for that little car seat story - I guess babies are quite hardy little things and i'm sure that you weren't the first or last to make that little mistake.

Sazz - welcome back, so glad your enjoying mummyhood!
You poor thing sounds like you really went through the wringer but thank god your little Celeste is ok.
It took Jenna a little while to get the hang of the boob as well so try & hang in there.
I eventually started using a nipple shield & the difference was amazing, bub actually had something big to grab onto which made it easier for her & I ended up using it the whole way through.
Can't wait to see pics.

Lenny - I know exactely what you mean about wriggly bub, Jenna was constantly moving in my tum & guess what she is still the same now so get prepared for a wriggly bubby on the outside as well. (Jenna never sits still)

Hi to everyone else, hope you are all well & enjoying the long weekend.

Jo - 28 (treated endo)
Dh - 34

Hi all
Hope you and family are doing well Sazz. Sounds like you're loving it no matter! which is great.

How cute is bugsy? He's just sitting there doing his thing. It's cool that he's got so much room still (and yours too from the sound of things Kimbe). Poor Jelly hasn't been able to change positions for almost 2 weeks now... i have a very short waist, which i think is why my belly sticks out so much, and doesn't leave much room for Jels. He's still kicking and punching, but he's stuck on the left now.

What's SPD Satya? Doesn't sound too good...

Hope little Felix, Sage and Jenna are all doing well also.

Hi

Well we survived my 1st day back at work :rolleyes:
Sage stayed with my MIL for a few hours this morning and he was a good little boy apparently(she wouldn't tell me otherwise ;))
We are doing ok other than that although Sage has decided to catnap during the past few days ie 5 mins here and 10 mins there GRRRR. He also refuses to go to sleep unless he's being cuddled which can be very tiring for me but I'm sure its just a phase and it will soon pass I hope. He's feeding quite well too which is good even with very sore nips. They just aren't getting better for some reason. Oh well we'll just feep doing what we are doing.

Satya Poor you with the pain already. I hope it gets better for you chickie.

Kimbe Wow you haven't got too long to go now. Less than 5 weeks :D

Marcellus I hope Jelly is doing ok even if he's a bit stuck atm. Hope you are doing ok too.

Monnie How's little Felix going? Are you still enjoying being back at work?

Jo How cute is Jenna smiling. Its great when they start to do all these little things. Sage is rolling from back to front now aswell as front to back. He's just getting so clever. I was really lucky the other day. I changed him on the lounge and went to get up to put his nappy in the bin and as I stood up and turned around he rolled over. I was so glad that I was still next to him cause I think I would have freaked if he did it when I was away from him. So needless to say we don't leave him on the lounge by himself anymore ;)

Hi to everyone. I hope you are all staying as cool as possible as its so hot today.

Anyone heard from Ltl Panda or Ktgirl lately?

Take care.

Hi all - here comes a self absorbed post...
We saw our little guy yesterday...and he's definintely a guy! He has his head down - but way over to the right hand side, and it's his big bum that's sticking out under my ribs - not his head. So all this time i've been patting his bum! And his arms and legs are all over the place! The sonographer said he looked truly uncomfortable...but the head was close enough to the right place, and that's all good. He weighs 2160gms which is a teeny tiny bit above average, but completely within normal. He predicted a birth weight (full term) of between 3.5 & 4 kgs. And all the measurements were really good, and average and normal - which is what we wanted to hear.
In a sad way there is no sign that he ever shared 'a room' with a sibling, but i guess that's a good thing for his own health.

He is a real baby now, sucking all the time and breathing too. Quite cool. No picture though - he's too big now to fit on the screen.

Mako - oww, work. What a bummer! At least Sage is in good hands.

DJTTC - no! I ordered a quiet baby! I'm sure i ordered one for you too! What's going on here!

Marcellus - I think my genes are finally working in my favour...I guess I can finally appreciate my body - and thank my mum!

I hope Ltl Panda is going OK - but sounds like another 2008 LTTTC baby might be on it's way! Kimbe - you're next hun!

Hi ladies, sorry its going to be a self indulgent post....im getting flogged at work, end of month and mergers.....cant wait till I stop...13 weeks to go :D

You who have popped all sound good and I hope everyone else is still growing strong:bellygrowing:

Had first hospital appointment yesterday, all is good had a very good doc and an obs in training....so was pleasantly surprised to have such a thorough check up. Was shocked at the prospect of being 69kg that means i have put on a kg a week in the last month, and im still growing oh my :doh:

Work is sending me to Brisbane next week....seems strange with so little time left, but 3 days in a nice hotel will no doubt make up for some of it.

Keep up those belly rubs :bellyrubs: and big hello to everyone xx

Hi lovelies!
Bummer about being back at work Mako, hope you arent too tired?
Lismith, enjoy your work trip if you can... wont get too many more expense paid motel stays for a while I'd say! Take it easy if you can.
Lenny, your bubs sounds like our Celeste. I patted her bum for months and she was almost always on the right side too. It is strange to see him on the screen now, huh, when he doesnt fit all in the one picture anymore. I was a little dissapointed at our 36wk scan for that reason. I mean it is good that he is big now but sad that you couldnt get a good look KWIM?
Marcellus, you sound like you are getting a bit uncomfortable? I was the same, I'm 165cm tall and not much of a waist. Everyone kept telling me I was HUGE! Like I didnt know! Must put up some pics of me at due date... shockers lol

Me, went back to hospital on Tuesday for 24hours to get this feeding caper sorted out. It was truely horrible. I felt like the meanest mum in the world. There was Celeste, going all red and blue from crying and there was me with tears rolling down my cheeks. Even the midwife (who took our class and attended the c section) was almost in tears. But we succeeded! Ok, she only goes on the right boob but better than no boobs!!! I had midwife visit yesterday am and CAFS nurse visit yesterday pm so have been a bit busy of late! Going great now... havent cried all day! lol.
We have the only girl born to our antenatal class so far with 4 boys born and 5 more due to pop soon. Wonder if she will have playmates? Funny cause all the old wives tales were saying Celeste would be a boy but we thought otherwise.
Keep growing those bellies girls!

Hi everyone...am i dreaming or was the sight down for a while?? I didn't realise how much i rely on visiting and reading the posts until i went to log on yesterday and my internet just kept rejecting the site address...anyway, phew, am back on now.

You all sound good.

Glad the boob feeds are happening for Celeste now Sazz, you have really been tested in these first few weeks haven't you!

Lenny, I am soooooo jealous you know all that info about your bub from the recent scan, all i got was head circumfrence at the time, nothing else! I had no idea i could even ask those things, i mean, i'd love to know prospective weight etc, it might at least help with the clothes shopping. But i must admit, we were lucky enough to get another 3D image, though just of bubs face!

Lis, glad 1st hospital appoint went well for you, it makes it that much more real again doesn't it! And i love the count down till you finish work, i hope it goes quickly for you. I have 11 days (not counting weekends in between) left at work though some colleagues are predicting i'll be a mum before the maternity leave kicks in...i'd love for that to happen, but i'm sure it's just their excitment with the whole pregnancy too!

Well, i am now having the swelling, my feet/toes have been going up and down, and my hands haven't been able to hold a fist without some pain in the nuckles for a week now, and today, i have lost my ankles for the first time. Sadly, when i pointed this fact out to DH he kindly informed me that my face and neck are slightly swollen today too. Hmmm, I'm not liking it, but i accept that it is all part of this fun loving journey...after all, wont bubs go through those "cute" chubby, rolly polly stages when i wont be able to see her ankles either LOL.
Man i can't wait to hold her!!!!!

Anyway, enough of me, hugs to all, hope your coping with the weather extremes, work demands and physical attacks coming from your insides!

Sazz Poor you and Celeste having to go back to hospital. I'm pleased you have the feeding up and running now. It sure can be very difficult hey. Sage and I still have issues and we can't seem to get them sorted out. We just go with it and endure the pain and the tears(from me and Sage) at EVERY feed :( But it is worth it as I really do love BFing him.

Kimbe I hear you on the cankles hun. I had them when I was pregnant too. Not too long left at work now. How exciting!!! Oh yeh don't rely too much on the scan measurments as they told me Sage would be atleast 8lb born and he was 5lb 15oz (admitedly he was early but those results were at 32 weeks) and he dropped weight :rolleyes:

Hi to everyone else. I'd better go as the little man is hungry and he's screaming ;)

Hi all

marcellus - SPD is symphysis pelvic disorder. I think someone on another thread said some people call it unstable pelvis. I'm not sure it's it as it's gone away for now but I reckon it will come back again.

Lenny - congrats on finding out it's a boy. Now you can confidently go out and buy blue.

sazz - glad you have the BF thing sorted out now.

I think I felt my first kick yesterday morning. It was like a tap from inside and it happened whilst lying in bed trying to get back to sleep. I'm not sleeping well, having to get up 2 or 3 times a night to wee and then can't get back to sleep for ages. No pain now so all's good with that, but I had really nasty indigestion last night and I was burping constantly throughout it. It happened just as I went to bed, I felt so bad and almost threw up, not a nice experience at all.

Wow! So much has happened in the last few days with you guys!

Sazz...you poor thing! What a tough time you've had...but hopefully it's a real turning point for you both...and little Celeste has plenty of booby success! Good on you for really trying to get it sorted out...what a fantastic mummy you are!!!

Mako...how you going at work? Hope it's going well. Sage sounds like such a clever little boy. Rolling front to back and back to front....that's fantastic! He's a real little marvel! I know what you mean about not turning your back!!!

Satya...sorry to hear about the SPD. I had alot of pelvis problems in the last few weeks. I ended up going to a physio and she gave me an elastic belt (like an 80's stretchy belt) that worked a treat. YAYAY on the first kick...wonderful!

Lenny...your little boy is really growing. Isn't it exciting when they don't fit the screen anymore!

Kimbe...yep...the cankles are fun! Mine ended up staying a little while til after the birth...it was so exciting to be able to have ankles again...and fit into some of my shoes! You're getting really close now...how exciting!

Lissmith...enjoy your work get away! Sorry to hear you're so busy at work, though

Marcellus...I can't believe how close you are getting to the end...50 days! It just seems like yesterday when you announced your pregnancy! So wonderful!

Jo...how's little Jenna going?

Who else is there? Nic, Ktgirl...hope things are going well!

Ltl Panda...where are you? Fingers crossed!

So hope I haven't missed anyone...if I have, sorry!

As for Felix and I...we're doing pretty well. Work has been pretty hard going but after tomorrow should settle down hugely...(for the last two weeks I've been doing 2x my normal workload)...but tomorrow that finishes...can't wait. Felix's sleep is still pretty up and down but I guess it's just a stage they go through...I've heard 4 + 5 months can be a bit tricky like that...

He's doing really well though...every day I still look at him and realise what a beautiful little miracle he is...as is Celeste, Jenna, Sage...and all the little ones on their way to entering this world!

Hi

Monnie I've just finished my last shift of the 1st week back. It hasn't been too bad thank goodness. Sage has been staying with his Nan and has been a very good boy(she wouldn't tell me otherwise lol). I have felt a bit guilty about leaving him but haven't told anyone in RL. I'm sure I will adjust and everything will be ok. I'm just so very tired. More than usual :( but I hope it gets a bit better.

Satya Yay on feeling those 1st kicks. They are fantastic and I have to admit I do miss those lol.

Hope you are all well and big belly rubs to everyone.

Mako, you're a real trooper with the bf! I really hope it can get better (and less painful) for you. Sounds like little Sage is doing well at any rate, which is wonderful.

Sazz - Glad you've gotten the bf on track - well done! Seems like so much hard work. And yeah, I've been saying "Yes, I know" a lot re how big I am. Mum keeps saying that i'll have to go early given how little room there was, but then I see your post.... hmm. I think there's no correlation between these things.

So funny that you've been patting bugsy's bum Lenny! Seems like he has the right idea about the exit, hey?

Congrats on your first hospy apt Lis - all good! too bad about your work though. And don't worry about the weight thing.... I figured out the other day that at the present rate of expansion I will have put on about 20kg by term. That is shocking!

Aren't hubbys great at pointing out these things Kimbe? Mine was very quick to reassure me that, yes, my bum was definitely bigger...

Satya, hope the pain stays away. And hooray for feeling your baby!

Great to see you still popping in Monnie - hope work eases up a bit for you.

Big hugs and belly rubs to all the babies!

Hi all!

Mako - glad to hear your first day at work went ok & you know what babies are always ok with other people which I know totally sucks (well it does but it doesnt iykwim) I used to work in the babies room at daycare & the mum's would always say 'were they ok today' & they were always angels but the mum's totally didn't believe us.
What a clever boy Sage is rolling over, hope your boobs are better now.

Lenny - so happy for you that everything is going well with bubs, have you thought of any names?

Sazz - finally the right boob, well done for trying so hard, hope everything else is going well with your little princess.

Satya - your first kick, how exciting!
Sorry about the indigestion, I know exactely how bad that is I had it all day every day all throughout my pg since 6wks.
I even remember in labour getting it from some snakes I was eating for energy.

Hope everyone is doing fantastic!!!

Jo - 28(treated endo)
Dh - 34

Quick post. Had a scare last night. Got the nastiest abdo cramps I can ever remember (even worse than when I had food poisoning many years ago), just after eating dinner. I was so worried that all was about to end and then after 5 quick trips to the loo realised it was just food related. Don't know what I ate that did it to me, I'm so overly careful and it couldn't have been my dinner as it was way too quick for that. Anyway, alls well that ends well. Sooooooooooooo relieved.

Satya - glad to hear everything is OK. I nearly called my DH home from night shift one night - the cramps were unbearable - but, like you, it was just food related and ran it's course. Scary though, isn't it.

DJ - names are picked, we have a no#1 name and a couple of back-ups. (But DH calls bugsy by no#1 name from time to time already, so I think we will be going with that)

Marcellus - Can you believe that one of the girls due at the same time as you has had her little princess already! Wow! Scary stuff.

Kimbe - Is someone doing your BA? You can't leave us waiting!

OOOO Satya, that sounded unpleasant! Glad it's all over now. Must have been scary.

I know Lenny! I feel a littlel panicked when I think that, at the outside, it's only 8 weeks till we meet the little guy. I mean, i'm excited about it and all, but...
Well done on picking names... we have a girl's name we like, which is really useful! boy's names are problematic. i'm sure we'll come up with something

Ltl Panda and Kimbe - you guys doing alright?

I've been getting cramping/other kinds of pain down there with the BH at night. dunno what it is but it's starting to keep me awake.

Hope everyone else is doing well. Have a good week

Hi everyone,

Satya, that sounds like it was really distressing, and with good reason too! Glad it was "technically" all ok iykwim.

Lenny, Marcellus, yep, all's good with me. I haven't got anyone doing BA, but you'll know pretty quick, if more than 4 day's have past and i haven't said boo, then i'm probably in, you guy's will know the second i get home how it all went! That's a guaranteed promise (if they offer the internet at hospital, i'll even get on there for you!!). Though given bub's still moving around recklessly, i don't think she has any big plans for facing the big wide world just yet.

It's nice to hear people talk about name selection in here, it's not really been mentioned before. DH & I settled on a boy's name very early on (pretty much from 1st +'ive preg test) and then a girls name, after much mulling over it, by the 3 month mark. Since, another little person has arrived and been given the same first named (hint hint), but despite me considering changing it, DH was set and already talking and refering to bub by the chosen girls name so, there was no budging!

We had midwife visit today and to be honest, i'm a little over my regular midwife, she has no recollection of things she's said previously or things i have already asked and it kinda frustrates me. I know she has lots of us preg women to see, but, it all seems very impersonal for something that is quite the opposite. Today she asked about breast feeding and antenatal classes for about the 4th consecutive visit... ah, hello, been there, done that! And then, cause she had a prac student with her she attempted to tick all the boxes as though she'd been thorough, i felt like saying something but bit my tongue. Then out of nowhere, she said 'bub is long isn't it' (not that i knew what that meant) and given we're both short i joked that maybe it wasn't really ours, we laughed, but the midwife looked at us like we were stupid...i'm guessing she's forgotten that DTD isn't what got us pregnant! Anyway, positively, after having her explain why she thought bub was long, I was able to find out what bub weighed at the 32wk US and she was 1800grams, so, i am going to look up to see if we can estimate birth weight.

Wow, selfish post I know...hope everyone else is going well. There's many that have gone quiet recently and i hope it's not the MS, heat, exhaustion or yucky feelings you sometimes get keeping you all offline. I hope it's more because you're all lying on your lounges talking to your growing bellies is awe that we're all going to be mummies this year!

I enjoyed reading your post Kimbe - reason being, although i really like my ob, i often wonder about midwife care - there are some little things that happen to me (like a big 'coffee' stain on my leg) and some little questions i sometimes think i'd like to ask, but i never quite feel comfortable. I don't want to waste his time IYKWIM. I guess each form of care has it's good points and bad points.

BTW, if you don't find a growth chart on Google, the sonographer said bub gains 200gms a week for the last 8 weeks (approx). So that makes your bub about 3.5kg, a nice comfy birth weight for you hopefully. But as Mako said, things change!

I don't think my brother's GF knew about bugsy's conception and when the family was with us for Xmas we made a joke about the baby not being ours - she looked really really blank at us. I guess someone explained later - either that or she thinks we are having marriage troubles!!

Kimbe I hope things work out with your midwife. I think they get so confused sometimes as they are just so busy. In saying that though, there is absolutely NO excuse for her not to know your history and your concerns etc as she should have these written down in your notes and anyone caring for you should take 5 mins or so to go over them before they see you or even while you are having your appointment. This is what my Ob used to do EVERY appointment I had.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but are you having bub at Katoomba hospital? I only ask as my sister had her 3 babies there and am just curious.

Lenny How funny about your brothers GF. I bet she was wondering WTH was going on :cryinglaugh:

Ltl Panda Where are you?????? I hope you and bub are ok. Maybe you're in hossy now with your new bundle of joy.....

Ktgirl How are you and those gorgeous twins in your belly??? Hope all is well as I haven't seen you here for a while.

Sage is doing ok. We have to see the Paed again tomorrow for a check up about his growth etc. He is gaining weight but is still not on the chart in the blue book.GP was happy with him yesterday as he's growing consistently and thats all we can hope for.
He was a little monkey last night when I put him to bed. He wasn't too happy about going and was crying and fussing etc.Anyway I went in about 5 mins later to check on him and he'd rolled over onto his tummy. He usually sleeps on his side so I was suprised to say the least. I put him on his back so he could roll to whichever side he wanted and he rolled to his tummy again lol. I left him there like that and once he was asleep I put him on his side again. Thankgoodness he stayed like that for the night.And he slept for 7 hours again.WOOHOO go Sage!!!!!! He's only done this 3 times now.

Oh yeh the feeding is getting better too now which i'm happy about.

Hope you are all really well.
Take care

Lol at your brother's GF maybe thinking you had 'marriage problems' Lenny. Do you think maybe that's a subconscious fear we have, that the clinic may have mixed up our 'stuff'? I know we often joke about it... I'm sure they're very careful anyway, but DH did forget to put his name on his sample that day. They told him it would be fine though. God, could you imagine the lawsuit!?

So Kimbe, we have 50:50 odds at guessing your girl's name, right?

I know our OB had a bad day once where he reasked questions and didn't seem to be keeping up - the apt was about 4-5 hours late cause he'd been so crazy busy that day so we forgave him. He's usually alright - in fact I'm surprised at what he does remember, but then I guess he does have his notes. And we always take the time to ask whatever questions we have. I know what you mean Lenny, I often think about all those other people in the waiting room, but this is what we pay him for after all.

Well done Sage! Sleeping for a whole 7 hours, what a good boy.

Hope everyone else is doing well, and babies too.

Yeah 50:50 odds on the name Marcellus! Not a tough one i know. And DEFINATELY, there is the paranoia about scientific mishaps. I've had several dreams that i give birth to a little Vietnamese baby...and DH and i are as Anglo as you can imagine! My fall back though is that we were ICSI and the first couple that morning (with hubby also having surgical extraction!) so there wouldn't have been any other eggs or spermies to join but ours! LOL

Lenny, thanks for sharing about your Ob too, i often question whether we should have gone private, particularly given the midwife we've got, but then, she'll not actually be there during the birth (i know, it doesn't really make sense to me either) and the other 3 i've had in her absence have actually been quite good so here's hoping they're with me during labour...hmmm maybe you could suggest to your Ob that there is no coffee permitted in the delivery suite!

Mako, sounds so exciting with Sage, sleeping well, paed appoints and feeding well, i can't wait. We're actually going to Nepean hospital as we're lower Blue Mountains so it's slightly closer to home than Katoomba or Hawkesbury, plus, it's the teaching hospital and any prob's at the other hospitals are automatically transfered to Nepean, so i figured why risk being elsewhere if there was a prob, but so far so good.

Kimbe I'm so much happier knowing that you're going to Nepean. My SIL had her 2nd bub there and all was good. My sister had an awful scare at Katoomba with her 3rd. I'm not going to go into it but they are ok luckily but as I said I'm so much happier that you won't be going there hun. My brother and my sis both live in the lower mountains also. Such a lovely spot!!!!!

kimbe - love your dream - your subconscious must really be worried that bubs is not yours. I'm sure bubs will pop out with no vietnamese resemblance.

DF and I picked out our bubs first name ages ago. For some weird reason we had only agreed on a boys name, and had done very little discussion on a girls name, so I guess deep down we must've known what we were having. We chose his middle name on the day we got the FISH results back which showed he was a boy. Both names were suggested by my DF. The first name we are using is the last name of a now deceased racing car driver (who my DF idolised) and the middle name just happened to be one of the ones on my list of about 5 that I felt went well with the first name so I was very happy to agree to that on the spot. It's really nice to have that settled so early on.

All is well with me, I'm off to my OB tomorrow - hoping for a nice strong heartbeat again as I've had some paranoid thoughts that all is not well in there (the m/c risk after an amnio keeps popping into my head) even though I have felt a little movement on and off, and just felt some whilst typing this up.

Satya - so glad that you & bub are ok!

Mako - how good is Sage for sleeping for 7 hours, well done.
I'm sure that if he is consistantly putting on weight that must be good.

Rolling onto his tummy how do you cope with that?
I am petrified for when Jenna does that, I wont be able to sleep if I know she's on her tummy even though millions of babies slept like that in my mum's day.

Jenna was playing on her side today & then rolled onto tummy for the first time but luckily she still has to be wrapped at night so she can't do it for now.

Kimbe - I think from memory it was our bubby's name that you guys liked & honestly it is ok if you have a girl to call her that.
It's funny though that we both like the name because you very rarely hear the name, I guess great minds think alike!

Lol on not being your bub, we were thinking the same thing because the day we went in for IUI there was an asian couple & we often joked about them mixing them up but thankfully there is no denying the paternity because she looks like both of us.

Jenna laughed for the first time (properly anyway) on Sunday it was sooooooooo cute but of course has not done it since.
She is also doing this fake coughing it is precious.

Marcellus, Monnie, Ltl Panda & everyone else hope you are all well.

Jo - 28 (treated endo)
Dh - 34

Hi ladies

Awwwww I need help. Im feeling so tired and down all the time. I cry at the drop of a hat and just not enjoying this pg. I have had movement and havent really felt much of late. I know its early but this is my 3rd pg.

Ive been trying to find some vit to take but cant seem to find any that are small enough as I cant take tablets. Im just getting down and down.

Been having some pains too. Ive had the worst night sleep last night. I was getting the worst pains. It woke me at 3am and didnt sleep very well after that. It felt like, hmmmm sharp pains running from my fanny straight up to my tum. Ive also had it when Ive been sitting down and go to get up it also happens some times. Does anyone else seem to get this. Im not to worried but in the back of my head I am.

I have my ob appoint next wed and abit scared of going incase he tells me some thing is wrong. Could there be and I know there is in the back of my mind. Is that why I could be feeling so down.

Im sorry for the huge downer post but just need to talk to some one. DH is good but he is so pos++ and thinks im just reading into things. But you know when some thing isnt right and I feel that.

Oh Missy, you poor chicken. I wish i could lift your spirits a bit hun. Your pains could very well be all your bits (uterus etc) stretching to make room. Apparently some people get lots of stretching pains...my ob warned me.

Emotions are always so very different after all the cr@p we go through - don't kid yourself Missy, you had a lot of ups and downs to get to this point. And you kept positive and you also supported a whole lot of other LTTTCers as well. It's draining...and maybe it's all just catching up on you - combined with all those pregancy hormones, which can just make everyone burst into tears - like me watching Zoo programmes on telly...i get all weepy!

Our DH's are great when they try to be all positive, but sometimes our feelings aren't so easy to put aside.
I hope you start to feel a bit better soon...
Big hugs
Jo

Missy,
It sounds like you are really expereincing a difficult time right now, but I think seeing your Ob next week is a good thing, possibly they can shed some light on what is happening for you. It is still a tender stage at 16 weeks so do what you can to take it easy. I kinda agree with Lenny, the pains may be stretching and ligament pain. Do a search on google for 'stabbing pains' during pregnancy (if you haven't already) and it will show up that it is quite common in the early stages - there's heaps of info on it.

I don't know of any vit's that might help, but as they say, the healthier your diet, the less your body will actually need supplements, so go hard on the fruit and veg, servings of fish and red meat etc. and you'll feel better for it.

Also, you mentioned knowing when somethings just not feeling right, and most times I agree, we just know, but there are times when we're tired, anxious and emotionally drained that we can get mixed messages from our bodies and when our mind starts to play tricks on us or puts doubts out there. I hope this is one of those times for you. Oh, and I know it probably wont help but try to remember that your body has done this for you before with the 2 beautiful children you have as proof. Hold onto that while you await your Ob appointment next week.
All the best chicken.

Oh Missy, lots of hugs sweetie :hugs: I think Lenny has said it all perfectly, we go through so much physically, and emotionally and it is draining. Sometimes I feel like I'm living back in June/July last year and am just coming to terms with the fact that we have to do IVF. It's just so much to take in, it can really get you down.
I had the fanny pain on the weekend while standing in the kitchen, ouchies too.
I think we will forever wonder if something is wrong after the journey we have getting here. I find that I still really have no attachment to this pregnancy/baby, I wonder if it's because I'm waiting for something to go wrong, and if I'm not attached it won't hurt so much when it happens? At the moment, it's my DD and DH's excitement that feeds me, I'm only ever excited when they are, when I'm by myself and I have time to think...well that's a different story.

If you're wanting to get some vitamins, could you crush them up maybe?
WIll be thinking of you, and hope all goes well at your appointment next week :)

Satya - Was your OB appointment yesterday?

To everyone else, I have been reading, just not posting :redface: I changed my scan yet again! A new place opened up 200 k's away from us and they will take my referral for the 'other' place that stuffed me around. So I called yesterday and got in Friday next week, and get this... They bulk bill and I can get a 3d photo of the face. The other place was going to cost me $200 for a 2d scan with no pics, AND we have 40k's less to drive YAY, so no sitting in the car with a full bladder, I can just drink up at mum and dads and drive to the scan place. DH is stoked about the 3d photo, hope we can get a good one, as he will be so disappointed.

DD is worried that the baby won't like her. I told her that as she knows, the baby can hear us now, and will be so use to her voice by the time it is born, that she will probably be the only one who can settle the baby down. She seemed quite happy with that explanation.

Hope you are all keeping well. I managed to get an appointment with a GP today to get a new referral for our OB, as the one from the FS to the OB is only valid for 3 months.

Will check in with you all later :)

nic

Well, just returned from GP visit for an updated referral and saw a new female doctor, and she asked how long it had been since I had seen my OB and when my next appointment was. She decided to take my blood pressure. so I told her it would be high as it always is when I'm told I'm having my BP taken. It was 137/90my heartrate was 117, not sure if this is normal or not though?? does anyone know what the 'normal' heart rate is during pregnancy?

She then decided to check for protein, and I had been to the loo just before going to the clinic lol. I have high protein. She didn't tell me what it was, but I could make out it was either 3 +'s or 4. She is sending it away to see if there is an infection or anything. I have to go back and see her Thursday next week, and she is doing my blood pressure and testing for protein again if no infection shows up. If they are the same, or still on the high side, she is going to call my OB to have a chat about what to do with me. So I'm freaking out basically. I asked her what we do if everything stays the same, she said not much really, probably just extra monitoring and possibly bed rest.

She had a look for baby's heartbeat, and of course, baby was hiding. She would find it for about 5 seconds and then it would be gone. She thought that baby was lying towards my back. Eventually found it, and baby's chest was just below my left rib. She seemed rather happy to have found it after looking for about 5 minutes.

Got in the car and drove home and cried. As soon as Dr's find out about my mum's kidney failure (which I never told the GP about thoguh) they always want to put me into hospital. I had it with DD, and looks like I'm about to have it with this one too. Think I will go and have a lie down for a little while..

Nic

Oh guys...

Nic...I'm sure everything will be okay. Your BP is a little high and no doubt they will want to keep a check on that...but remember it's just one reading and so many factors can be in play. Even being a little anxious about visiting the doctor can push it up...and being a LTTTC-er, we are very familiar with anxiety!

I think your heartrate during pregnancy is faster as your body is having to push around more blood...

It's good that your GP is keeping a good check on things...that's the main thing! So sorry to hear about your last experience with hospitalisation...I so hope things go smoothly.

Oh...and what a little sweetie your DD is...how lovely...she sounds like a beautiful sensitive soul!

That's great news about the scan...well done!!!

Missy...hang in there! Pregnancy can be so hard...I often think it's really tough for us LTTTC-ers as we feel less 'allowed' to complain about the downsides of finally being pregnant. I hope that your Ob. appointment goes well...just remember.."this too will pass"...I know it sounds a little twee to say that, but I often say it to myself to help get through rough patches...

Hope everyone else is doing okay...Felix is going through a fussy period at the moment...think it's the whole 26 wonder week thing! Oh...and he's teething again! So we are back to 3 hourly feeds at night!!! YAY!

Anyway...take care all!

Monnie

Had wondered where you were Nic. You guys are obviously doing a great job of getting DD used to the idea of being a big sister. I'm sure she'll just be fascinated with the baby when it's born.
I hope you are ok too. It's good that at least the doc gave you the tests. I do the protein one every visit, but they never tell me the results - just that it's ok. As for BP, it can be elevated during pg - or in my case it's actually low because of pg! Weird...there's no one-size fits all, is there!
I hope you don't end up in hosp. :pray: Let us know how you go.

Missy I really hope you start to feel a bit more positive soon hun. It sure is a rough road that us ltttc'ers travel at times hey? But know that we are all here to support you during this low time. I'm sure all will be ok at your Ob appointment next week and make sure you pop in to let us know how it goes.

Nic Good on you for finding a new place to have your scan done.I hope all is well with your tests and you don't have to go to hospital. Try and take things easy and get as much rest as you can. Your DD sounds great too. She's going to be a huge help for you when bub arrives. Good on you and dh for raising such a special princess ;)

Monnie Poor little Felix. The teething thing can be so tough on the whole household can't it? I hope they come through quickly so you both can get back into your pleasent routine.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm starting to worry about Ltl Panda. Maybe she's had her bub by now. I just wish she'd pop in to let us know how she is.

Also has anyone heard from Ktgirl recently??? Just wondering how she is going too.

Sage is doing really well. The last 4 nights he's slept 7 hours, 8 hours, 9 hours and 8 hours. My poor bb's don't know what to do with themselves lol. Lucky I have a pump :rolleyes: Our appointment with the paed went well on Wednesday. We have to go back in May for another check up but he was very happy with Sage. He told us that we need to tie Sage down for a while as he's so developmentaly advanced lol. So all in all he's doing great.

Hi to everyone. Hope you have a good weekend.

Me too about Ltl Panda Mako, its been nearly 2 weeks (??) since we've heard from her and her bub's EDD was definately about now...sending you hugs and good thoughts Ltl P, hope to hear from you soon xxx

Nic so nice to hear from you. Wow you travel for your pg support, it is just phenominal, hopefully the new Dr is just being thorough with the tests. I know my BP was considered low in the beginning but each time it's checked it's so completely different. Even the other day i was sitting waiting to see the midwife desperate for the bathroom, but thinking she may want a urine sample, anyway, when she called us in and said no she didn't, i rushed to the loo, rushed back into her room and was tapping the ground really fast with my feet (like a kid with ADHD!) and then as she was taking my BP i realised i was edgy so stopped tapping, but it was too late, my BP was high. I have no doubt had i have not rushed around or been edgy it would have been much lower.

I'm still going well - Technically 5 more working days before mat leave (yay!) and then the long wait for labour to start in the comfort of home. My ankles are back (another bonus!) but i am experiencing terrible upper back pain, right behind my left shoulder blade. I am struggling to bend, move, pick up things etc without flinching in agony, i don't know where it's coming from as bub is quite low now and by BB's aren't exactly that big to be causing it. I actually took my first 2 panadol last night for some relief...and i don't take pills, haven't had a panadol since before ivf started in April last year. DH has been giving me regular massages ubt it's back within 30 mins or so.

Hope everyone else is travelling ok...

Ltl Panda - we are all wondering how you are, and hope to hear a fabulous BA soon!

Kimbe - bummer about the back pain - I have heard that because my placenta is right at the front and bugsy is facing forward (i.e. his spine to my spine) this causes back pain. Could this be your problem too? I hope it eases for you - but don't tell DH, enjoy those back rubs while you can get them. Perhaps when you stop working things will settle down.

I did teeny tiny blue shopping at Target today. Then came home and did a load of teeny tiny blue washing. I still have many things that we need before bugsy arrives, but I was tired, and at least i got some half decent bras for me - my BBs were getting sore. I'm definitely not a 10A anymore - i should be thrilled!

Anyone got a Grobag? I'm keen, but they are a bit pricey.

Hope all is well with everyone and I'm always pleased to hear how our new mummies and their boys & girl are doing!

Hi Lovelies,
I have been worried about Ltl Panda for a while too... Lets just hope she is loving being a new mum and hasnt had time for us... where are you Ltlpanda??? Sending you luck and love!

I had a lot of upper back pain towards the end of pg but my bb are 18E so that might explain it hey?! It is probably to do with the weight on your front in total not just the bb. Your whole posture is different too. I reckon tell DH that the massage is the only thing that gives you any relief and he needs to do it all the time ;)

Nic, thinking of you and hoping you are feeling better soon. Yuck feeling with high Bp... take is easy love! We dont want you on bed rest where you cant chat to us!

Missy, sending you big hugs. It is hard sometimes dealing with all the emotional crapola that you go through with a LTTTC and all the AC rubbish to then have the uncertainties and worries that go with PG. As if you havent had enough to think about already. Feel free to purge your feelings here though as we will all understand!

Kimbe, how exciting is it when you can see the finish line for work coming up!? Enjoy. Hope they give you a nice send off.

How cute is it when you start washing all the little baby things? Not quite as cute after a few weeks though. hehe. Only kidding, I still get all clucky when I see those tiny socks and singlets hanging up there next to my nanna knickers hehe.
Kimbe, maybe you could make a grobag? do you sew?

Monnie, wow 26weeks, where did that go? I am really not looking forward to the wonder weeks as we have had a few yucky days in the last week and she was only 2-3weeks then. What will week 5be like??? Maybe she is just advanced and we had the week 5 crap happen at week 3? Fingers crossed lol.

Mako, I have those amazing boobies in the mornings lately too. Celeste is snacking on and off every half hour or so all evening then sleeping for 5 or 6 hours from midnight and my boobs are then soooo full she can hardly get on them at all! She gets pretty cranky I can tell you cause she is mighty hungry then!

Where is Ktgirl lately?
Hope everyone has a nice relaxing sunday! We are going to my folks which is 90km away. Celeste's biggest trip yet! Better take a million nappies and 5 changes of clothes. :)