Pregnancy after Long Term TTC - June 2007 #2

Monnie Your break away sounded like pure bliss hun. I was talking to my dh earlier tonight and told him that I'd like us to have a weekend away together before our little man arrives. Dh is going away next week for 10 days fishing o/s, so I am really going to push to get a weekend away. How exciting being able to distinguish your bubs arms, legs etc. I hope you enjoy your maternity leave and have lots of time to relax. Have you decided on your birth options?

Jo Today was another BIG milestone for me. I spent some time with my family at my nans house and this was the first time I've seen most of my relo's since becoming pregnant. It was a huge thing for me as I'm really looking pregnant now. Everyone was really nice though and commented on how good I looked which was great.

Sammi All the best for your scan tomorrow. I'm waiting for the day that my dh can feel bub move too. I can feel him move all the time now which I'm really happy about. I do have to say that my little man is one very active boy and seems to only be quiet for about 2 hours at the most lol.

BW, Keen,Sazz and Beibei Hi to you all and anyone else I've missed. I hope you are all doing ok and had a great weekend.

Mako...yes...definitely do the 'babymoon'...it's one of those special things!

Re. birthing choices...I wish I knew what was happening! Due to the late change in Obs., my new Ob. is looking into what my options are...and he's away on holidays, so I don't see him again until July 20th! So I guess I'll find out then...

So...it's all up in the air! Ahhhhhh!!!

So glad your family thing went well...you bask in the glow, girl! You deserve it!

Sammi...all the best with your scan tomorrow...

Excuse the self-absorbed vent here...

It's 2am, and I can't seem to keep my head out of the toilet! I was right in the feeling that I'd feel better if only I could throw up, but DH was also right in that I've "broken the seal" and now I can't stop... it's 2:30am, I'm exhausted and feel like complete and utter crap!

I guess this is the painful part of pregnancy - where there's nothing to see or feel apart from nausea. Where the fatigue dominates, and I'm so tired I can't even take advantage of the reduced joint pains...

I'm really wondering why we spent so much money and went through so much pain to get to this point... when does it start feeling better? :cry:

BW

Oh you poor thing, I hope you will soon feel better BW. At least you don't have to go to work...Sometime I was surprised that how one day can make life feel completely different...

Hey, it must have been out of sympathy, I think my m/s kind of kicked in, started from the weekend. I feel queasy, light headed first thing in the morning and trying to eat something, but apart from dry toast can't keep down anything...so far haven't vomit yet...I can't even open my mouth to talk, feel like going to puke on someone... ah..I don't know now I should be happy or not after complaining lack of symptoms...tomorrow is my very first scan day, can't wait! Have been waiting for so long...

Monnie, babymoon sounds great, so glad you have put your feet up (literally) and enjoy the time off...not long now...you must be excited..

Sammi, good luck with your scan tomorrow, I will be thinking of you!

Hello to everyone else and hope all is growing nice bellies...

BW and Beibe, hope the nausea is not causing you too much grief. I too have been bent over the toilet a couple of times a day for the past week. It only happens with complex meals. The vitamin B6 is slightly helping, means I can get up to go to the gym in the mornings now.

monnie, excuse my ignorance, but are birthing plans done with the midwife or is it something you write up and give to the hospital?

Hey guys,

BW and BeiBei...sorry to hear about the ongoing attack of m/s...

My experience of pregnancy so far is certainly it has it's ups and downs...it's amazing and exciting...but it's also draining and exhausting and 'invasive'...

I was just thinking yesterday "I can't wait til I feel like me again!"...

I think mid-2nd trimester is certainly the highlight...m/s has hopefully resolved, you have so much energy, you truly feel like you are blooming, and you are starting to feel the baby kicking...

For me, 3rd trimester has been wonderful BUT also hard work...but thankfully you know you are close to the end...

I can't wait to be a Mum (although that petrifies me too!) but I'm not one of these people that absolutely loves pregnancy...but that's okay!

Ltl Panda...as far as I know regarding birth plans, you write them up yourself and share them with the Ob. and/or midwife...I think ideally it should be done in collaboration but I think that is probably unrealistic...there just doesn't seem to be the time available to do that...I haven't written one as yet, as I don't know which way I'm going (e.g. c-section or VD)...but I know the most important thing is that they need to be flexible...

BW and Beibei Sorry that you're having a hard time with the m/s.Remember its all worth it in the end. This is my motto and say it anytime I feel like crap( not that its too often these days).

Monnie I have to agree with you about feeling pretty good half way through the 2nd tri. I'm feeling really good atm and I do hope that lasts a little while.

I hope you are all ok.

Not too much to report here atm. I have to say that I'm very worried about my nan atm. She goes into hospital this arvo and has a pacemaker put in tomorrow. I saw her yesterday and she wasn't well at all( she 86 and never had an op before). I promised that dh and I would go and see her this afternoon at the hospial.

Hi to everyone, thank you so much for your well wishes with my scan.

We had our 19 week scan today. It was fantastic but the little bean would not stay still, not even for a minute - for the whole hour that the poor nurse tried to get her information. It was disappointing in that we didn't get many good shots, but everything was checked and it's all good! :)

Monnie - glad to hear your 'babymoon' was so good, it's sounds wonderful!! We've got a holiday planned for September which I absolutely can't wait for!! Sounds exciting being able to tell which part is kicking you, and feeling the hiccups - how cool!

BW & Beibei - hope you both feel better. It's horrible isn't it? You try for so long, finally fall pg, you're so happy, then m/s hits... arrghhh... all your joy disappears into a sea of nausea... It will pass though and you will feel better. I hope it doesn't last too long for you.

Hi Mako, I hope your Nan is ok...

Hi Jo, thanks for your well wishes. Hope your Monday wasn't too painful... I'm looking forward to needing maternity clothes.. probably in the next couple of weeks I'd say.

Hi to Keen, Sazz, Ltl Panda :hello: I hope you're all well.

Hope I haven't missed anyone.

Sam

Hey Sam,

Great news on the scan! Fantastic!

Ours is a wriggler too...we actually got better pictures in the 12 week scan than the 19 week one as well...but at least you know everything is great!

Wonderful!

Mako...hope your Nan is okay...

Sammi Jane, the scan sounds great, big thumbs up for the great results.

Moko, best wishes for your nan, you sound pretty attached to her.

I am jealous of those who are in the second tri.....m/s really puts a downer on things, the only thing that lifts my spirits is the end result....and what it took to achieve this pregnancy.
Sometimes I feel guilty for feeling so bad about the way I feel in regards to m/s. God forbid I talk about it outside of Belly Belly forums….

Anyways I guess m/s can turn us all in to fruit loops.

Panda, I know exactly what you mean - I had someone have a go at me for grumbling about feeling so unwell when it took IVF to get pregnant. I think the fact is, pregnancy is uncomfortable - regardless of what it took to get you there.

I've just returned from the GP - I have the referral I needed, as well as a script for maxolon to hopefully stop the nausea, I've got to have a urine test to check for a UTI... unfortunately, I'm so dehydrated that I just can't pee - so that's the job for now. Push fluids.

But all I want to do is sleep!

BW

Bump, bump

Hey ladies just wondering if anyone here had OHSS at the time they were PG????

Hope your all well and Monnie - look at that ticker luv!!!!

Has anyone heard what ~jane~ may have had?????or jane if your spying please let us know

Sazz would be the person you're wanting to talk to, Lou. She's not on terribly often, so perhaps send her a PM? It's great being able to send PMs to non-platinum members now :)

Hope you're not feeling too crook, Lou. :hug:

BW

Thanks BW - i knew there was someone here who had been through it, but couldnt look back far enough. have pmed

I did this time Lou - but all is fine and never affected the babies or me very much. Fingers crossed for you matey! Good fert rate, by the way!!

BW - sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. It really is awful when you feel like that and I also had things go through my mind that I should be grateful regardless because of how much I wanted to be pg - and I am, dont get me wrong, but I think everyone has the right to complain when they feel horrible regardless of why - so you whinge all you like in here honey! My MS pretty much was all gone by week 13, so not too much longer.... just hang in there!

BW get drinking those fluids hun. I know its easier said than done but you do need to drink.

I want to say to all of you who are suffering from m/s that its perfectly fine for you all to complain about how yukky you are feeling. Its also ok to complain when you've got a bit of pain and not feeling so good at any point of your pregnancy. I think its awful when people say that you should be grateful for being pregnant in the first place after what we've all been through. As if we wouldn't be grateful iykwim. I remember a few times I commented on how bad I was feeling earlier in my pregnancy and I used to get people commenting on how I shouldn't and that it all "comes with the territory". This used to make me feel soooo mad. So please all hang in there and feel free to let us know how you are all feeling. Just know that it does get a bit better along the way ;)

Thanks to all of you for the well wishes for my nan. Yes Panda I'm very close to my nan. She's been my rock for my entire life and I'd do absolutely anything to make her better. She's such a very special part of my life and I just want her to be around when my bub is born iykwim. I'm going back to the hospital tonght to see her. Dh and I went last night and I just broke down as I left her room and had a huge cry on the way home. I hope I can hold it together tonight when I see her.

I hope you are all ok and belly rubs to you all

Hey guys

Loula...wishing you all the best, chickie!

Mako...so wishing all the best for your Nan...I was incredibly close to my Grandma and lived with her for a few years when my family moved to Sydney (I needed to finish my TEE/HSC in Perth)...anyway...take care chickie!

I remember feeling really bad that I wasn't always totally loving pregnancy...which is so ridiculous...pregnancy is bloomin' hard work...and LT-ers have every right to grumble...I also had some comments like "you should just be grateful"...which are just silly!

To be honest, I didn't really feel great in pregnancy until about 21+ weeks...and even then, I have had plenty of blurgh days! It does really help once you feel the baby moving and kicking...

And here's my new grumble...my groin really hurts!!! Just been to the physio after weeks of trying to 'brave it'...it was just getting worse and worse...to the point that it now hurts all the time...especially when I try to roll over in bed or get out of bed at night (anyone got a spare hoist?) Anyway...the physio has given me an elastic belly belt to wear...which just gives me a bit more support...hopefully that helps!

Anyway...need to get back to some client reports...I am the master of procrastination at the moment!

Hi guys,

Had my very first scan today and I am a bit worried with the result. The fetus measures 6 weeks and 2 days which is a bit smaller than it should be and heart beat is also slower 95 (should be 100).

My FS will talk to me tomorrow and nurse is really nice but she basically said there is nothing you can do but wait till another scan in a week or 10 days time. That sounds really really long ...

Don't know any of you know anyone had a similar experience and still go on with a healthy pregnancy, I am hoping this little one can just catch up real quickly...a bit emotional ATM, sorry no personals...

:cry:

BeiBei, sorry I don't have any answers for you. At our first scan they didn't measure anything - I just don't think the equipment there was up to it. I hope someone has answers for you

You are in my thoughts. :hugs:

BW

Hey Beibei,

Just posted in your other post...

They never measured anything for me either...

Big hugs to you...thinking of you...

Beibei,
Sorry that you are feeling so low at the moment. They did measurements for me too and mine was a day behind in size but heartbeat was about 150bpm. They didnt say much about why the size was behind but when I had the 12wk scan (at 12wk6days) all was well with size and the nuchal fold measurements too.
I hope that makes you feel a little better. Hoping the days fly by for you so you can get that next scan quickly.
Big hugs from me
Sazz

Hey Beibei

I have no answers for you, but I wish you all the best hun....Hang in there.

monnie, is the groin pain caused from the pulling and or loosening of the ligaments.

Girls, I had a bit of rusty coloured CM yesterdays, no red stuff, just an old brown, rusty colour. Who would I call to express concerns, O/B or hospital. I woke up this morning at 2:30 and took 2 hours to fall back asleep.

BW, has your spotting stopped?

Panda,
I had one little tiny bit of the same coloured spotting you had at around 7weeks. I told the GP and he said not to worry about that as it is old blood and they only worry if it is red or pink as that is the fresh stuff. I think it was my CM finally coming back to life which might have losened it and it had been there for a while. hope that puts your mind at ease.

Nope, Ltl Panda, still going. :(

It actually seems a little heavier this morning, but is still very dark and old, still no cramps or back pain. Vomiting has stopped but I'm still have troubles with diarhhea - add that and the spotting and it's easy to get a bit freaked out!

...so I'm basically just doing my best to relax and stay stress-free. I guess it also proves me wrong when I first connected the spotting to reducing my dose of prednisone. I'm also wondering who I should call if it gets worse - I'll probably start with the OB and go from there if it gets to that point.

Ltl Panda, how are you doing with the morning sickness now?

Sazz - read your journal - amazing! Can't wait until I reach that point! :D

BW

Beibei, sorry, I don't have any answers for you either. When we had our 1st scan we saw the heartbeat but weren't told any measurements etc... Try not to worry yourself, be positive - I'm sure your little bean will be ok!!! I will be thinking of you. Hopefully your FS will tell you more today is it?

Ltl Panda - I think as long as it's not red and coming with pain etc it's ok.. is that right girls?? I hope all is ok.

BW - Sorry to hear you're not feeling so good... I hope it passes for you soon. How's Leah doing? I haven't been for ages... I'm on the waiting list but apparently she's going on holidays soon, for 2 weeks???

Monnie - hope your groin pain goes away :) Oh the joys of pregnancy!! We were the same as you - got better shots of bubs in the 12 week scan than the 19 week. Oh well. We'll be seeing a lot of them soon enough!! ha ha...

Mako - hugs to you hon, I hope your Nan is ok.

Hi to everyone else I've missed.

Sam

To be completely honest, Sammi, I don't think Leah's doing that well lately. She's just taken a month off for family reasons, should be back for a few weeks and then on holidays again. She's reduced her work hours, so I get the new girl, Melissa, quite a lot now. She's good, but I've just got so used to Leah that I miss her. I'm also worried as I'm supposed to have an appointment tomorrow but I didn't get the confirmation text message yesterday... I really should call them to check.

I think I'm slowly finding my way back to normal today... still feel pretty icky, but only taking half-doses of maxolon so I can keep some of my mental faculties intact.

:hello: to everyone.

BW

Hey guys

BW...glad you are feeling a little better today...you poor thing! Let's hope this is the corner...

Ltl Panda...from what I've heard, rusty spotting is fine...I think I've heard that spotting without cramps is generally okay...

Sazz...hope you are doing well...

BeiBei...hope you are doing okay today...take care chickie!

Sammi...yeah...know what you mean about the better shots at 13 weeks...we were initially disappointed about the 19 week scan (the sonographer was using a brand new machine that morning and wasn't really sure what he was doing)...but regardless of the 'pictures', the results were good...and that's what counts, hey?

Mako...how's your Nan?

Keen...good to hear from you...where's that new avatar?

Went to the physio yesterday...groin pain is still there but a little better...she did a lot of massaging my butt...which helped! First time ever I have had steel buns!!! Yeah, it is ligament pain...the relaxin hormone loosens everything up (getting ready for birth), so it's all a little unstable...she said it's also the way that I'm carrying...very much in front and low, so it's putting pressure on my pelvic floor...

Anyway...feeling much better today...got an Ob. appointment this afternoon...it's with another Ob. I haven't met yet, as my new-Ob is currently on holidays...so I guess it will be a very quick check up to ensure everything is fine...I'm feeling fairly fine so hopefully it will be an uneventful appointment!

Take care all...

Thanks for the reassurance girls. Much appreciated.

I am happy you are starting to feel a little better. A little better is better than nothing.

No spotting on the undies, just smudge of brownish discharge when I wipe. But its just a bit.
Sammi Jane how have you been hun?

I had very stressful day with jam packed meeting back to back and I have to schedule 15 minutes talk with my FS that I was on hold for about 10 minutes...FS didn't offer much that I already knew...all he's done was adding a bit stress for me by saying ' expecting the worst'...and will do another scan next Thursday...

Anyway, got home and mum left a mesg for me and she went to consult a local OB (she lives overseas) and said the OB was laughing at her saying at this early stage, they don't measure and if there is a heartbeat what else you are worrying about? So my mum now is starting to laugh at me...that I am a constant worrier...

Don't know what to think, this week gonna be hard...I think I will try to stay positive. Ironically, m/s has been with me whole day and I hardly had anything apart from a muffin and just manage to keep a bowl of noodle down...I hope the bub is trying to show that he is catching up...

BW and Panda, I hope the spotting will stop soon and takes the worries away from you, its really not fun...

And thanks gusy for your support, that means a lot...

BeiBei, I'm so sorry that your FS couldn't be more reassuring. I think all you can do is simply take things one day at a time. I think it was Monnie's suggestion that you look at each day as being the furthest you've got, so that's an acheivement in itself. I'm recalling the words of my FS (which may or may not be comforting, they weren't to me at first but I did find some comfort in them when I thought about it) - we've got you pregnant once, if worst comes to the worst, we can do it again.

So... when the spotting threatens to overwhelm me and reduce me to a quivering wreck, I'll sit calmly with my hand on my belly and remind myself that today, I'm 8 weeks pregnant. At this time, in this moment, I am pregnant and everything is ok. I've never been 8 weeks pregnant before, so getting this far is an achievement. Tomorrow it will be 8 weeks and 1 day, and that will be another milestone on this journey.

I'm sure we've all had days of fear, confusion and wondering how much further we can go... but I honestly think that we need to be more positive. Let bubs know they are wanted, loved, treasured already and you are choosing to believe in them.

:hug: Hang in there! And if one day at a time is too much, take it one hour at a time. We'll be there with you.

BW

Hey Beibei,

Sorry that your visit with the FS wasn't so supportive...you poor thing!

The 'good' thing is that your m/s is still rearing it's ugly head...hopefully that's a great sign...and that your little one did have a heartbeat...I know heartbeats can vary greatly...and like the overseas Ob. mentioned, at this stage, lots of times they don't even measure it...they didn't with me...

Just so sorry you have to go through this at the moment BeiBei...can't wait for things to brighten up...

I think BW's thoughts are fantastic...

Take care chickie!

Thanks, Monnie. I was worried it was a bit morbid, but when things are dark you find the positives where you can.

Hope you are doing ok, BeiBei.

BW

Bei bei Hang in there hun. Like BW said take 1 hour or 1 day at a time. I do hope this next week goes so fast for you and that all will be well with your little bub at your next scan. Like Monnie said too a heart beat is still a heart beat. I would try not to worry too much although I do understand how hard this is. Try and stay positive and keep talking to your baby and tell them how much you love them and want them.Know that I'm thinking of you too. Take care.

BW and Panda I hope the spotting stops soon for you both.

Monnie How did your appointment go hun? I hope the groin pain gets better and that the support band thing helps too.

Well my Nan came home today. All went pretty well with the op yesterday although she's very sore which is to be expected. I couldn't get to the hospital to see her last night as I felt I would break down as soon as I saw her. So I thought it would be best not to go.
Nothing else to report here atm except I can't believe that I'm 22 weeks tomorrow. The time seems to have gone so fast and then at times so slow. My baby is very active and I can feel him most of the time. I have to say that I love that feeling. I wish dh could feel the movements too though. Does anyone know roughly when dh should be able to start feeling them?

Hi to Sammi, Keen,Sazz and anyone else I've missed. I hope you are all ok.

Thanks guys for your comfort...

BW I think your theory sounds great, it starts to work already...

I have also found a thread online talking about this topic and knowing there are so many women are experiencing the same thing make me feel that I am not alone...I guess I will just be positive and leave the rest to destiny...whatever happens will happen...

Mako, I am so glad that your nan's surgery went well, hope she will have a speedy recovery!

So glad to hear about your Nan, Mako...good news!

Beibei...so glad you have found a thread that is helping...it makes such a difference to know that you are not alone, hey?

My appointment went well...poor Ob. was running 2 hours behind due to 3 deliveries today...

This Ob. is just a stand-in one for me whilst my Ob. is on holidays...I see him again on the 20th...

Anyway...baby is growing very well...looking healthy and big! Placenta is looking good as is amniotic fluid. This Ob. spoke briefly to me about delivery options and basically was saying that it's not something that I want to play around with, given the possible effects of a scarred uterus...he was pretty much saying that a c-section is the way to go...

So...it looks like my baby could be here in 3 weeks, given that they generally do c-sections at 38-39 weeks!!! Can't quite believe that! WOWOW!!!

Anyway...hope everyone is going okay...take care!

WOW Monnie 3 weeks and little ziggy could be in your arms safe and sound. Thats sooo exciting hun.

Bei Bei I'm so happy that you've found a thread to help you during this difficult time and atleast you now know that you aren't the omly one in your situation. Take care hun.

Well I went and picked up our bubs car seat today and yesterday afternoon dh and I went and picked out a cot. Its all starting to come together now. I've chosen the pram, laybyed the linen and the porta cot as we are going away for christmas. I don't think there is really all that much more that we'll need to get as far as the "big" stuff is concerned. I'll have to start and write a list of what else we need as my baby shower is at the end of August. This seems to be a little too soon for my liking but its the only time that all my and dh's family will be around at the same time as our parents are going away several times before bub is due. If it was up to me I think I would have liked it in late September but anyway August it is.

I hope you are all ok.

That's great Mako...well done on your purchases!

We still haven't got a cot...still haven't fitted the baby seat in the car...bought a change mat today...but still feeling slightly out-of-control at the moment...

Hopefully ziggy will be happy in a bassinet initially...otherwise we are in big trouble!!!

Still waiting on renovations to start too! They were supposed to be finished in the next month...but have yet to start!!! HELP!!!! Looks like we will be spending longer at my parent's than I imagined (or hoped)...they're great...but just never imagined, after waiting so long for Ziggy, that I would then be in someone else's home...

Oh well...what can you do!!! Maybe it will help me to be a flexible parent or something!

Trying to get my work finished (18 reports which are driving me crazy)...

Anyway...I'm complaining too much in today...

Really...all I wanted to say...is well done on the shopping spree!!!

Bei Bei
Like the rest of the girls, I too take each and every day as a miracle, the fact that your bubs is still in your belly is something special, he/she is showing you their presence through making you feel sick. Try to relax and enjoy the experience of being pregnant.

Mako, I am so happy about your nan, hope her healing will be smoothly. Ohh and how exciting you picked up all your stuff. that is great stuff.

monnie, I am happy your scan went well, but also happier that you will have your bubs in your ups sooner than you had expected. gees 3 weeks will fly.

My spotting stopped, but boy do i look like I am 4 months preggers or what. People have commented that I have a little bump. I am only 8 weeks 2 days. I know I am bloated, my belly is pretty small in the mornings.... it must be all the carbs or something.
I have also had some light cramps here and there, I guess its just everything moving around and things stretching

Because of all the worrying and anxiety, I didn't even realize that I am 8 weeks today! YAY for that! (here is my positive vibes girls)

Monnie, 3 weeks to go...OMG! its great that you have decided on the delivery options and you know what you are expecting...C-session sounds great to me (i am so scared of natural birth personally), at least you can be more organized and save the drama of delivering the baby in the car...on the floor etc...isn't it? :D

Mako, how exciting of doing your shopping spree, I can't wait when I am at that stage...you must be feeling everything is coming together now...very organized girl...

Panda, I am glad your spotting has stopped...I know what you mean about the belly, mine was definately bigger in the evening (before going to bed) than when I got up in the morning...partly because of the bloating I guess and I am trying not to eat too much in the evening...

Hi all!
Mako, how wonderful to hear all your news. Your Nan coming home is great. Picking out you baby things is so exciting and a baby shower soon too.... it is all happening in your world!!!
Monnie, hang in there with the reports. Hope they finish themselves soon! And yay on getting a firm idea of the birth. I know you werent really happy at first with the suggestion but it sounds like you have come to think about the end result which is the most important. I am sure there are heaps of women who are dissapointed with having a C but at least we have these options these days and they are sooo much safer than they were in years gone by! 3 weeks left! Wow you must be so excited. I cant believe you are renovating at the same time!!!! You are a beggar for punishment hehehe. good luck with it all!
Panda, glad your spotting has stopped. A big relief for you I reckon. I know what you mean about your belly. Mine is huge. I saw a 17wk preg woman yesterday and I am way ahead of her in size at 14wks. Made me feel like a whale!! hehe. Every one is different I guess.
Beibei, I am glad you are taking the approach you have. As I had a catch up read of everyone I was nodding my head when I read BW words. Exactly what I was going to say. And Congratulations on making 8 weeks!!!!! yay!
Hi Keen, BW, Sammi, and everyone else. Nothing much to report from me. I think I have turned the corner with the fatigue thing. I am just tired from working evenings and having a bit of a cold. Other than that feeling great!