Pregnancy after LT TTC #20

[JBM]

meredith: when i was TTC before 3 years ago there was a LTTC lady ( dont remember her name) who had bleeding thruout her preg and baby was fine. fingers crossed for you. good luck . x o

[Coral73]

Hi Ladies,

JBM – I hope you have settled into a nice routine and that baby Hunter is a dream sleeper! I was lucky with DS and he was hardly ever awake during the 1st few months, however, fed consistently every 3hrs.

Joy – So good to hear from you and I have sent you a PM :hugs:.

Loops12 – Totally understand about the MIA… I think everyone is in the same boat. Such a busy time of year and it takes awhile before things settle down to routine again. March is so not far away – yay! It is always February before you know it . I am planning on finishing up at the end of April so an extra month for me .

I can unfortunately relate to the financial strain and am hoping everything will sort it self out in time. Just borrowed some money form my Sister & Brother-in-law (they are fantastic and are like our own personal bank minus the interest fees!) to purchase some furniture for DS so we can move his nursery stuff into the spare room in preparation for Little Bean .

I will keep my that your placenta rises in the coming weeks… I have never experienced it but have heard that most women’s end up rising and it does not become an issue. Are you having scans to monitor the position in the coming weeks?

So happy to hear that bubs is doing beautifully – yay!


Meredith – Oh, you poor thing . I can’t imagine how tuff a time you must be having a the moment…. I would be beside myself so please vent anytime you need .

I am so, so happy to read that bubs is measuring correct for dates and that you heard a lovely strong heartbeat ! Such a huge relief for you but I can understand that it would be hard to relax with the bleeding still going on . If it is any consolation, my Sister had several bleeds early on and all was fine and she delivered a beautiful healthy baby boy.

Thinking of you and praying that the bleeding stops so that you can get some peace of mind, xoxo


Maruschke – Sorry to hear you are also going through stressful times . Sounds like the morning sickness is really affecting you and I hope that the Maxalon is doing the trick! Working and morning sickness is not a good combination!

I cramped allot during my 1st pregnancy so hopefully it is growing pains you are experiencing although I remember freaking out about them too… . I’ll also for good results for you at your scan next Tuesday. Hoping that time goes quick for you until then.

Yogi Bear, Teirae, MelissaI, Nikki, Lise, jacklicky & Bengal – How are you ladies? I am hoping no news is good news and you are all off enjoying the festive season!

Hi to anyone else I may have missed :hi:.



AFM – All is going really with us – yay! We had our 19w scan yesterday and I am so, so excited to be able to officially announce that we are expecting a beautiful healthy baby GIRL !!!!

I am still pinching myself at how lucky I am to be expecting a DD as I was fully expecting to see another unmistakable little you know what on the screen, he, he! When the tech showed us the important bits she asked if we could see anything and we said ‘no’ and it was at that moment that I started to cry! We went straight to Target after the scan and DH and I each picked out something pink to buy DD… I think it hit DH then as he started to cry in Target! I am just so, so happy!!!!

[Maruschke]

Coral how exciting .

MS is easing here, which is awesome. Had a scan today, bubs measures perfectly on dates with a hr of 172 bpm.

[Loops12]

thanks for understanding ladies about being MIA - great to see everyone is doing really well.
Thanks also for the positive reassurance about the low placenta :-)

Take care and thinking of you all xo

[MeredithD]

Hey ladies,
I have been offline for the past week as we were away and just trying to catch up with everything.

Coral - huge congrats on expecting a little girl. I didn't really believe I was having a girl until DD came out! It is lovely to have one of each much as really once you've been through LTTC gender becomes far less important than I guess it is for many. A sonogropher once told me she had a women heartbroken because her totally healthy baby was found to have an EDD in an astrological month she wasn't happy with!!

Marushke - Yay at bubs doing what he/she is supposed to be doing. Great news!

AFM - Have still had light bleeding this whole week which is just getting really annoying. MS not really easing at all and with a bout of gastro thrown in during our holiday, I have lost over 5kgs ( I am pretty tiny to start with so not a really welcome thing). Am trying to get some more food in but just totally not interested in anything or it makes me feel ill soon after. Fortunately, babies are true parasites so it doesn't care at all - saw my OB again today and bubs looks well. Just counting down the days to 12.5 weeks when i'll have my official scan. I'm still in denial that a baby might actually come out of this!!

[Loops12]

Geez Meredith you have been through a lot, you'll be in my prayers that all works out and you get bubba no 3 at the end of this!!

Hope everyone is well!
xo

[Yogi Bear]

Hi everyone!
Gee its been quiet in here lately, i dont think there are many of us in here at the moment? Or maybe everyone is still enjoying the festive season and on holidays!

Coral - congrats on a precious little girl! I actually think i'm having a girl too, keep checking on the scans and keep seeing the 'hamburger' lines...even DH saw them clear as day last time, no dangly bits!

Meredith - huge hugs for you sounds like you are having a rough time at the moment. I hope the bleeding stops and you feel better soon. Hang in there honey!

Loops - Wow, your pregnancy seems to be flying! though its funny that other peoples pregnancies go so quick while your own just seems to take forever. Do you have any more scans coming up?

Hi to everyone i've missed.

Ladies, i need some reassurance here, or some experience or words of wisdom...

Had 28 wk scan on thurs and Ob said bub looks too small for dates (almost 2wks behind) and sent me straight away to another scanning centre for a complete growth scan. They found that all looked good with bub, heartrate good, blood flow through the cord and in the brain all normal, fluid levels good....just a small baby and sitting on borderline at the lowest end of 'normal' (5th percentile). My Ob started stressing me out saying be prepared to be delivered early as growth not good and also brought up risk of chromosome abnormalities cause we didn't have the ammnio and so cant rule that out. But from what the sonographer said all looks good, dont worry its just a small baby. I am having another scan next week. I am just so unhappy with my Ob, she is always putting the 'fear of God' into me, i think its because she knows my history and our risk factors and its like she is automatically predicting that something terrible is going to happen to my baby. I was so upset over the weekend but from what i have read (thanks to googling!) this is unlikely to be an issue and baby most likely perfectly fine. My gut feeling tells me bub is ok, getting lots of movement and growing steadily bigger in the belly (fundus measurements all on track) I just feel like Ob is a scaremonger, she has never offered any positive reassurance about this pregnancy. I am seeing my specialist immune ob next week and am looking forward to his opinion, he is much more positive and i fully trust him.

Anyway, sorry for all that. As if this journey isn't stressful enough as it is i just dont need negative Drs too! If anyone reading this has any advice or experience with small babies, would love to hear them, good or bad....hopefully good! I know i am at risk of IUGR and preterm labour so be it, but at the same time i dont want to stress unnecessarily when all other indications point to a happy, albeit small, baby.

Thanks
Yogi
xx

[~TT40~]

*hugs Yogi*
some babies are small, and they did the right thing to check it all out properly and like you said, heartrate was good, cord flow, fluids etc.. all you can do is monitor it, so another scan in a few weeks and see if bub is staying on the same percentile. Try not to stress, focus on all that movement. xoxo.
I'm measuring small, my fundus is 2cm behind (has been the whole time), but my bub (according to the 20weeks scan) is on the 63%, ...don't know what my point is really... just that measuring etc is still off even though we have all the scans etc.
*hugs*

[lise]

Hi ladies,

It's been so long since I've posted in here you might not remember me but I promise to be better from now on! I was incredibly tired first trimester (as well as having awful ms all day/night long) basically in bed at night as soon as DS was, which very much limited my BB time. I started to feel better second trimester, and then we had our nt scan, results of which indicated we were very high risk for down syndrome. After a few stressful days (which happened to coincide with my birthday and the days just prior to Christmas) I spoke with someone from the fetal medicine unit at the hospital and I'm having a scan at the hospital at 18 weeks to see how everything is. All going well that will be it, but if things don't look good then we'll consider an amnio. I'm still not sure if I want one, we wouldn't terminate based on the results but I think I'd like to know if there was something wrong so I could be prepared.

Anyway, apologies for the all about me post, I feel very rude writing it after not having been on for so long but I can hear DS yelling in bed so I think I'd better see what he wants. Will be back tomorrow with persies xx

[*beannaithe*]

Hey hey, it's been a long time since I posted too. Just want to send out a big hug to Yogi and Lise - hoping all is good with your bubbas.

Just wanting a bit of advice. I have a very very close friend who is also a ltttc-er and this girl absolutely has been through hell. She is about to start her final ivf cycle, she had a stillborn son whose edd anniversary is coming up and is very down. I so much want to be able to help her but she won't return emails, texts or anything. What do you think I should do - just wait until she is ready to talk, just keep touching base with her a few times a week via email cos she doesn't want to talk? I just don't know so any ideas would be great. I know from my own experiences that it is such a catch 22 - get mad when a pg person keeps talking about their pregnancy, get mad if they studiously avoid talking about it and get mad if they keep their distance as well - help. I know part of the reason she won't talk to me is self preservation on her part but I just want to be able to help her through this and know that she is alright and that I am always there for her to pour everything out to like we always have in the past.


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[~TT40~]

Mel ~ I would keep touching base every week or two, not too often, but enough for her to know that you are still around and when ever she is ready/wants to you ou are there. but yea I would let her have her space though and let her come to you. wishing your friend all the best.

lise ~ *hugs* fx everything will be ok.

[MeredithD]

Just a quickie from me. My apologies too as its really hard to get on here sometimes
Just had to reply to Yogi and Lise - stressing about the health of such "hard to get" babies is horrible

Yogi - I haven't got huge words of wisdom for you but I would also err on the side that baby is probably fine - just small especially if you have predisposing factors that may contribute to IUGR.
My DD was considered to have mild IUGR - picked up at 32w scan. My OB wasn't overly negative but certainly cautious for him and I was recc to be induced early . I was quite against this initially and faught him on it. Then spoke with the sonographer whom I had used many times so knew fairly well. He was not overly worried either but did say that sometimes small babies can mean poor placental function and that this can go downhill quite quickly to the point of sudden foetal death. My OB never mentioned this to me but the sonographer says he knows my OB has had a couple of cases where this ma have happened. Not trying to scare you at all - just relaying what I was told.
I did then aggree to induction at 35weeks although I was practically in labour by then anyway so shelikely would have been prem anyway. Yes she was small but otherwise perfect and only 2 weeks in special care. She was also not as small as scans predicted so remember - scans are not "fact"
I guess my point would be not to panic but take the regular scans to check baby and if its recc baby come out early then perhaps go with it.

Lise - feeling for you too. HOw horrible to live in limbo wondering if baby ok or not. Try to remember the "risk" calculation for downs etc is just that - a calculation. Even a 1 in 2 risk would still mean you had a 50% chance of a normal baby. I jknow a few people who have been pushed to termintate based on scan findings etc and then gone on to have perfectly healthy babies

Hello to everyone else. Sorry running out of time for more perrsies.

AFM - still getting some bouts of bleeding but as far as I know baby still ok. My haematologist is altering some of my meds but not convinced it will make much difference. I have bled in pregnancy not on any meds. 10weeks now so edging closer to my goal of 12-13weeks! Maybe I'll put up a ticker then

[Bengal]

I went through this a lot when friends who shared my journey became pregnant and I didn't . I now have GF's keep their distance from me and I completely understand why so I am not offended.

Perhaps make it a little more personal than an email or text, and buy a simple card with a little charm or something and let her know your there and thinking if her, rather than emailing weekly as that may just become upsetting (even though she is a close friend) let her know your giving her the space she needs and post it.

Hope that helps Hun, if she is not responding Hun, I wouldn't keep emailing (hugs)

Hey hey, it's been a long time since I posted too. Just want to send out a big hug to Yogi and Lise - hoping all is good with your bubbas.

Just wanting a bit of advice. I have a very very close friend who is also a ltttc-er and this girl absolutely has been through hell. She is about to start her final ivf cycle, she had a stillborn son whose edd anniversary is coming up and is very down. I so much want to be able to help her but she won't return emails, texts or anything. What do you think I should do - just wait until she is ready to talk, just keep touching base with her a few times a week via email cos she doesn't want to talk? I just don't know so any ideas would be great. I know from my own experiences that it is such a catch 22 - get mad when a pg person keeps talking about their pregnancy, get mad if they studiously avoid talking about it and get mad if they keep their distance as well - help. I know part of the reason she won't talk to me is self preservation on her part but I just want to be able to help her through this and know that she is alright and that I am always there for her to pour everything out to like we always have in the past.


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[Maruschke]

Meredith glad to hear all is going pretty much OK. Keep hanging out for the 12w scan, not long now!

Everything fine here, boring really. Zzzz

[lise]

Thanks for your thoughts ladies. I'm strangely calm and not worried at the moment - both DH and I think everything will be okay. But then I worry that I'm not worried enough, and worry that if something IS wrong it will be such a shock to us. Ahhh, gotta laugh sometimes, even I can see the lack of logic there

Meredith, hope your bleeding has stopped so you can finally start enjoying the pregnancy. Getting closer to your goal!!

Melissa, hope your friend is okay and has let you in a bit closer to offer some support. As you said, it's such a catch 22 and everyone is different in how they want to be treated it can be difficult to offer the right level of support and comfort.

Maruschke, (oh, my auto correct wants to call you maris hoe!!), glad everything is boring. Boring is good! Took me ages to work that out with DS, I'd see the OB for two mins and get charged $100 and get cross. Someone finally pointed out to me if I only saw her for two mins it meant things were fine and I had nothing to worry about

Big hello to everyone else, hope you're traveling well.

AFM, I had a breakthrough at work today! Actually, two victories, so happy about that otherwise, I'm wondering when I'll start feeling regular movements from this baby. I felt DS from 17 weeks exactly and while I think I've felt this one a couple of times, it's not as obvious as I was expecting. But then I figure that I'm much busier this time round and don't have as much resting time, so I probably just don't have as much time to notice. At least I hope so anyway...

Well should go eat a chocolate biscuit before bed, don't think I've hit my chocolate quota today!!

Belly rubs to all xx

[Yogi Bear]

Thank you Teirae & Meredith for your replies and well wishes Meredith, glad to hear DD arrived safe and is doing well. I know about quite a few small/premature babies and they are all perfectly healthy. Good news... i had another scan yesterday and bub still doing well and growing at normal rate, actually had a growth spurt and is now up to just over the 10th centile so i'm really happy with that! I see my Ob on friday but no doubt she will find something negative to say to me, i dont think anything is ever good enough unless the baby fit the perfect 'textbook' pregnancy! My immune Dr was much more positive and said its just likely to be a genetically small baby with no chromosome issues. At the end of the day no one knows for sure the health of their baby until they are born, regardless of whether the pregnancy is 'high risk', 'low risk' or all looks 'normal' on ultrasound. I am just so sick of my Ob always talking about the worst that can happen...i just wonder if she does this to all women. The extra stress is not what a pregnant lady needs!!

Anyway, i'm feeling much more relaxed now and bub is still busy kicking me in the bladder...nothing wrong with its legs anyway!!

Hi to everyone, hope you are all well. Its quiet in here...guess everyone is off enjoying their happy healthy pregnancies.

Yogi
xx

[~TT40~]

great to hear Yogi!! =) Yay for bladder kicks =) I get mine in the stomach, basically right on my belly button atm

[lise]

Hi ladies,

had my scan today - no abnormalities detected or any of the soft markers that would indicate down syndrome, they said everything looked great. They can't guarantee of course that the baby doesn't have down syndrome but the scan has effectively halved our risk we're feeling much more relieved. We've decided not to go for an amnio as we don't consider the risk to be worth it, and the clinical director we spoke with, although he couldn't really say, seemed to think that was a sensible decision. The quality of the scan itself was absolutely amazing, the hospital must have much more advanced technology than other places, it was great.

And we found out - it's a boy

I had a slight moment of disappointment that I won't ever have a daughter (DH only wants to have two babies, he thinks we're getting too old for more after this ) but we're so excited to be having another little boy, he'll only be two years younger than DS, and because the due date is the same as with DS we have all the clothes already so don't have to buy anything!

Anyway, am at work so can't do persies but will hope back on tonight. Hope everyone is well, belly rubs to all xx