Pregnancy after Miscarriage or Loss ~ January 2011 #2

Clairesmummy so sorry to hear about your grandmother in law. May she rest in peace. Thinking of you and your DF.

Forshelby Happy Birthday for this weekend.

T-Hopes did those BH settle? Hope all is great with you and bub.

Ferrals yes Hope sounds familar. I'm pleased to hear her and her bubs are doing so well and due to arrive soon. Woohoo.

Thanks for the wellwishes ladies with DH and my issues. I cracked the shiats with him last night as he proceeded to go to bed without kissing me goodnight. I told him I've excepted that our relationship sucks and I either except that this is how its going to be or do something about it and leave. He got very upset and said he doesn't see it how I do. Made me feel all guilty. I do think pregnancy isn't helping. Hopefully its just a bad phase we will bounce out of. Reet your right. Thats one positive is DH will be home quite abit when bub is born. Knowing my luck it will be then he decides to pull his finger out and work more lol. I guess I can't have it both ways.

The whole ruptured membranes is a little concering after what happened with DD. It was obviously only a tiny leak enough to dampen my undies not even wear a pad but I guess it was enough for the protection to be breached and an infection get in. As soon as my membranes ruptured for good (like in the movies how you expect) then labour was on in full force so it wasn't enough to send me into labour.

Well goodnight ladies. I'm exhausted. Of to bned for another early start at work. Very depressed I only have 1day of on Monday before back to work again. I'm so exhausted.

Unfortunately my stay was short here but hopefully in the next year or so I will be back again, this time for the long haul :(

Good luck with everything!

freya~ I am so sorry to hear about your loss.

Mildez~ I am sorry to hear about the stress that CS and the ex is adding ontop of everything. CS sucks me and my bf are having issues too the ex is trying to say that he was behind he went to court the cs person said that he was not behind but would not take it off his record (confusing i know) so she said no that she wants him in voiletion. So he has to go back to court in march he was never behind but still its just added stress. She is mad that he is happy with his life.

Sorry if i have missed anyone but life around here has been busy LIL miss honor has been keeping me busy.

sorry to hear about your loss freya

Sorry to hear of ur loss Freya, I really hope u will be back to join us all soon xx

Dory- Aaaw ur bday story made me so sad! Now thats EXACTLY why i dont put myself into situations like that.. i just cld not handle it AT ALL. Even when i was a bit younger i wld have 'joint parties' so if it was a dud it wasnt so bad.. there was someone else to feel sad and like a loser with me too! Luckily they always turned out ok.. must have been all the other persons friends coming!! Sorry to hear ppl let u down at ur christening too.. its so annoying when that happens and they are the ppl u wld always bend over backwards for.. just store them in ur memory bank now.. no going out of ur way for ppl that dont deserve ur time miss dory! :)

Clairesmummy- Sorry to hear about DFs grandmother :( Have a safe trip to Grafton. I hope the weather isnt too wet for the drive. Good luck at ur ob. appointment tomoro.. does ur ob. have a little u/s machine in his room??

Melster- I hate seeing u all frustrated! U shld be enjoying this pregnancy. I really really hope things sort them selves out soon.

Alish- Woohoo for ur upcoming scan! So how many days til u have it??

Mildez- I really hope dh is making a little bit more effort now that he realises ur not happy.. its those small things that definitely count.. like saying goodnight. I hope it is just a phase and u can sort it out before baby comes.. u wont need relationship stresses when looking after a newborn.. u will need the support from ur dh. Maybe go out for a cheap dinner somewhere.. or go and see a funny movie (No Strings Attached looks alright!!) Just take some time out for the 2 of u. Its times like this when u need each other.. especially if ur dh isnt too happy in his own life at the moment. U make me feel so sorry for u whenever u bring up going to work.. i can almost feel ur pain thru the computer! I hope ur day off tomoro is a good one.. do lots of relaxing if u can! :)

Angelfish- Nice to hear from u! I hope little miss honor is being a good little baby for u :) Are u severely sleep deprived?? I bet its all worth it anyway even if u are :)

Forshelby, Forshelby- U deserve a post all to urself! .... To be continued...

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WISHING FORSHELBY A BIG BIG BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

I hope u have a lovely day today and u get spoilt rotten by ur DP... foot rubs.. lovely meals cooked.. head tickles.. etc. :)

xxxxxxx

hi reet - it says i should get the scan done between 11 weeks 3 days & 13 weeks, so im only 10 now now im thinking ill get it done thursday or friday week.. so like the 24th/25th feb?? and it says the blood test should be done at 10 weeks so i might go on tuesday or something.. im not sure though, had anyone else had this done?
then i have to see my normal gp in 4 weeks just to have a blood pressure check up.. i have to go see him anyway for something else so it works in well... thennnn i see my obgyn on the 21st or 22nd march and i think ill be around 16 weeks, and then i think he will organise the 20 week gender scan.. eeek i cant wait to find out the sex..!

I NEED SOME ADVICE!!!! im having issues-ish with my best friend atm.. when i had my ectopic pregnancy, a couple of weeks after she asked me to get the morning after pill for her cuz she had had unprotected sex with her hubby but she didnt want to be preg cuz she had already booked an o/s trip.. which i was totally disgusted about but i did it anyway.. then 2 weeks later she claimed she miscarried (i thought the morning after pill bought on a early period?? but i dunno) she was saying her hpt was positive but her hubby said it wasnt so whatever, i consoled her like a good friend does.. then i fell pregnant again and she went o/s and i lost the baby, she didnt even get in contact to see how i was.. then at xmas time she thought she was preg and she was like ohh worst timing ever it will ruin my summer, but it turns out she wasnt.. now im pregnant and she thinks she is but im finding it hard to believe her cuz one minute she wants one then the next she dosent, and im even finding it hard to try and say positive things to her.. i dunno what to do, what do you girls think?? after the lies and stuff i dont know if i really believe her period is late but i feel like a sh*t friend for not believeing her??

im sorry for no persies i have really bad baby brain atm im just all over the place and my bestie is really rattling me..

happy birthday forshelby, i hope you have a fantastic day & get spoilt rotten :)

i hope everyone else is well, and having a fantastic day also :) xxxxxx

Reet - oh thanks for your kind words... I am tough and I'll bounce back... sometimes I think in that department I can be like a big ole puppy, tail between my legs one moment and then bounding around all giddy happy and loving everyone again.

I think really what it means is my expectations of people may be too high - there is always going to be a certain number of people who can't attend and know it in advance, a certain number who say they can but then either forget, or something comes up, or just can't be bothered, and then those who just don't rsvp for whatever reason. TBH, I have forgotten to rsvp sometimes. It's hard not to take it personally but I think it's just what happens? And it's kind of comforting to know it happens to others? We went to a bbq for some friends, and it was kinda last minute but out of the 10 couples who said they'd come, 2 turned up. My friends were pretty cut up about it and were making comments like " it was better like this, more intimate". Poor buggers... know how it feels to walk in those shoes.

Honestly about the christening, of the people who didn't attend, I only really care about 1 group and they had health issues and an 8 hour drive one way, so totally explained why they didn't come. The others? I don't really care about them enough to really care that they didn't come.. I just get annoyed because they are rude. The people who did come? Well they are the people I wanted to share it with anyway.

I like the idea of a joint party....

Alish - hmm oh dear, I am sorry to say it but that friend sounds like bad news. From an outsiders perspective she seems to only think about herself and not consider how her actions impact on you She seems to need "everything to be about her".... I mean seriously at very special times of your life, she has made it about her. My view is you need better than that and I think your gut instinct is right not to trust her. But for me that's easy to say. And putting that into practice is even harder. I took the very noble course of just ignoring a friend of mine like that for 18 months, and then eventually told her, like I was in primary school, " I don't want to be your friend anymore". Of course she made THAT about herself too. It's hard huh? you need support but also that support has to come from well intentioned people who give to you rather than take. Sweetie, short of ignoring her or telling her exactly what you typed here and seeing how it goes, I don't have much advice. I am just so sorry that you have to deal with something like this.

FORSHELBY - happy birthday girl. I will have a cup cake today for you with a candle and everything and I will tell you as per your request, how it tasted. Guess what? Once your little honey dew has made their way into the world.... I am going to get you your own cupcake! Have a good day. Belly rubs.

Sunshine - sending you all my sunday love and strength... give that little Obie and huge serve of love from his aussie aunties.

thanks dory, im starting to think if our friendship is as good as we thought it was.. im scared to say anything to her as well cuz she is a very selfish girl and she dosent know it, like, how will she react??
like i shouldnt have to worry about crap like this, im so so happy ive gotten to 10 weeks cuz ive never made it past 8, even saying that, im not to know something hasnt happened cuz i didnt know last time, and i just feel like she dosent give a sh*t! its about me at the moment, i dont want it to be about me for the next 5 months but at least til i can see my baby again! and feel better!

i think i might cook a choccie cake today :) i like cooking sweets it takes my mind off things

Happy Birthday Forshelby :)

Alish- Now I want to cook chokkie cake.. Don't have the ingredients or money for one though :(

Freya- so horry to hear about your loss. Hopefully we will see you in here again shortly.

How are the newborns of the group going?

The CSA should get their butts into gear and help the right people!

Afm- Can't believe that my NT scan is tomorrow :D extremely excited!

Just real quickies i have been up since 4am and worked all day.

Freya-so sorry hun hope you are ok and we will see you back here real soon.

Damprye-Have a great scan i am glad i never have to have another 12 week scan again i now just look forward to seeing my girls face before she is born she keeps hiding it in the 3D scans and i only have one more chance on wed to get a nice picture of her.

Forshelby-Happy BDay hun hope you got spoilt.

Mildez-I hope your man pulls his finger out and gets with it soon it take two in a relationship to make it work.
I came home from work today to DH cooking dinner and he had done the boys uniforms and lunches for tomorrow he saw i had had a bad day so he went and ran me a bubble bath how lucky am i to find him i will never let him go.

AFM-sorry i am so slack with persies just really sore and tired today but the best bit is today was my last day of work i am on maternity leave until the end of july.
Little miss has not been her usual disco queen self the last 2 days i feel her moving around every now and then but no kicks or big fit type movements like usual.
And these braxton hick and the pressure i have OUCH!.
Mildez when do bubs slow down with movement before birth i just feel so ready to burst and the pressure is like my water feels like its about to pop is that because the placenta is on the bottom of my uterus.

Freya - I missed your post in here earlier when I went on about myself.... I am so so sorry that your angel wasn't with you for longer. Take care of yourself....

Mildez - glad you at least got from DH he doesn't see your relationship in the same way you do. Phew, but maybe he'll try to be more demonstrative now? Hope you're taking care of yourself at work.

Ferrals - yay for last days of work! Hopefully it's just been you've been to busy to notice LM bouncing around.

Clairesmummy - GL for tomorrow and condolences for DF's grandmother's passing. Drive safely.

Dampyre - GL for your scan too. It is so exciting seeing your lil one on the big screen.... sending you lots of love.

Melster - keep strong.

Alish - I agree - maybe just try to avoid her?

Angel - hugs to you and Honor.....

Reet - yep Angel will be sleep deprived and probably teary.... it's a very demanding time the first 6 weeks... but oh soooo worth it.

hi dory, well now shes taken a test and she said there is a really faint positive line, i tried to tell her to get another one & test with first morning urine but she kept saying well the packet didnt say that blah blah, like how many times have done a hpt? i think id know..
i know when i wanted it so badly to be positive ive often thought ive seen a really faint positive line, and it wasnt.. im trying to be supportive but she is seriously doing my head in. i want to support her but its annoying i cant even have a pregnancy to myself!

Alish - I think you're amazing trying to support her..... maybe if it is a bfp, then you'll be able to share the journey... that can be nice... but even more so once bubs is here.

Oh congrats on getting beyond your vodoo dates too - you mentioned it earlier. Isn't it awesome to be the pregnant - est you've ever been? I celebrated that milestone in Hannahs pregnancy by writing a message on my tummy and taking a photo and then leaving it on there for my obs appointment. Got to grab those moments when we can huh?

Eeek! I'm so behind! I can't catch up but i feel guilty not to try so....*deep breath!*

Freya: There is no way of saying anything to make it better but I am so sorry you have suffered another loss. So very unfair. I hope you have another sticky BFP very soon.

FOrshelby::happybirthday: I hope you have a lovely day with DP and a GD friendly chocolate cake!

Mildez and Melster: So sorry you lovely ladies are having such stress with ex-es and current partners. I'm sure you are right MIldez and being pg and hormonal doesn't help make all the stress any easier. I wish you ladies get some solutions soon and that your hubbies remember that it's you that needs some rest and spoiling. GBHs.

Ferrals: Woo Hoo! Yay for maternity leave!!! So glad you can rest your weary pg self! And what a gorgeous DP to spoil you like he does!

Alish: It's really hard when you feel yourself start to go a different way to your bestie or even when you are just on different wavelengths for a while. This kick she is on with "i'm pg/i'm not" "i want a baby/i don't" Must really be doing your head in when you really want your baby and just want some support from her right now. I hope she realises that soon and gives you a little back too. Oh, and with the blood test i had mine done around 10 weeks. The nuchal u/s can be done 12- 13 wks i think? Mine is Tuesday! So excited for you that you are at your pregnantest!

Clairesmummy: Hang in there. The cramping is such a stress i know because it's hard to know what it's about. I've had quite a bit on and off with this pg. BUt so far so good and i'm 12wks today! Your ticker is moving along nicely too!
T-hopes: So very sorry about your MIL. I hope she is here and well enough to enjoy her grandchild for a while after s/he arrives.
Damprye: Good luck with your u/s! Mine is day after yours!
Reet: Glad you are enjoying your boogeying little bubs!
Dory: Shame your spa day got interrupted but good on you for trying to set up some pamper time. I hope it works out next time. How lovely to have family who can set you free for a little while. That is precious time to keep a mummy sane!
Sunshine and Stars: THinking of you and little Obie- what a lovely story behind his name- and hoping he is doing well.
Angelfish: Hope you are feeling a bit better and able to enjoy little Honour. Glad to hear from you.
Kitfaerie: If you are lurking at all, hope you are enjoying little Samuel and all is well.
Tegam: Hello to you and Miss Molly. How fast she is growing!

AFM: I am 12 weeks today! I had an OB appointment THursday and my little 'plum' was measuring 2 days ahead! I have my official Nuchal scan on Tuesday. I've been nervous about it. Don't want to get this far only to find out there's a problem. But all looks good so far so... courage! Oh, and i worked out that as of this week i've given myself over 50 injections now (of clexane)! Are there any medals in that?!!!

Possums - congrats on 12 weeks. GL with your nuchal scan AND yes there must be a medal in having over 50 injections already.... the number at the end of it all must be truly staggering.... eeek. Thanks for your kind words.

Oh well off to bed for me.

thanks dory- i feel abit relieved to be past the 8 weeks but its not over yet! ill feel much better once i get my 12 week scan!
possum - i have a feeling she is pregnant but i just dont want all her drama that is attached to it. as much as i love her she is a very selfish person, 2 months ago she didnt even want a baby and im p*ssed off now she is doing it cuz i am.. oh well, not much i can do about it.
congrats for being 12 weeks! how exciting you get to see your little plum soon!
im going to get the blood test done on tuesday and ill try to book in for u/s when im 11wks6days.. plus thats my arvo off work to so it will work in well

have a lovely day everyone

Possum Magic fantastic news about your Ob appintment and reaching the 12week stage. It wont be long and we will be waiting for your morphology scan next. Yeah on seeing bub again tomorrow. When is your appointment?

Thanks for the wishes on DH and I. Things have improves since my spaz attack at him the other day. I'm not worried now about our marriage although I'm also not holding my breath either expecting things to improve dramatically. I think when I stop working things will improve as DH wont have the work load he currently does with the kids when I'm at work with breaking up the fights etc.

BBL.

Awwwwww i just need to share as DH is still not working and we are povo and cant buy each other anything he stayed up after i went to bed and unknown to me made me a heart shaped chocolate mud cake with I LOVE YOU in white chocolate iceing on it. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love him him.

Thats just gorgeous Ferrals. Your DH loves you very much. Is your little girl moving more today? My bubba is still very quiet. I see my Ob tomorrow and hopefully he can give me some reassurance. Are you on weekly appointments?

OMG Ferrals- ur man deserves the MAN OF THE YEAR AWARD!!! That is SO BEAUTIFUL of him! I just cant believe that any man is actually like that! Most women arent even like that! U are one lucky ducky :) Enjoy ur cake... i am super jealous!!!

Alish- I dont think i cld handle having that person as my friend for a little while! She sounds really selfish and way too much hard work! Just concentrate on ur own journey for a little while. What got me about her too was why she cldnt get her own morning after pill??! Why did u have to get it???! It sounds like teenager stuff to me.. like shes too embarrassed to buy it for herself. I reckon give her a few weeks to mature a bit and then start contacting her again.. thats just my harsh opinion tho! :) Yay for ur upcoming scan! Not long to go!

Damprye- Good luck at ur scan today!!!

Mildez- I hope ur Ob can reassure u tomoro that bubba is happy.

Possum- CONGRATULATIONS on reaching the lovely 12 week mark!! Best of luck at ur scan tomoro, i hope u get a couple of good pics. Is ur appointment in the morning or do u have to wait all day??

AFM- Im feeling a bit anxious.. ive been reading on here a few ladies that have lost their babies right at the very end of their pregnancies.. has absolutely freaked me out! Im in the mind frame that i want this baby out sooner rather then later.. i know its too early now but maybe if i cld start doing something at 35 weeks to help labour along... I know i just have to relax cos the longer the baby is in the better but its just so scary. I think thats the main reason i still havent done anything to get ready for baby.. no cot etc.. i just imagine setting the room up for it and then having no baby to come home to it.. and then i think stop being stupid.. these thoughts are going to make something bad happen! I finally got rid of the queen bed yesterday out of the babies room so thats a start i guess..!
Sorry to be a downer.. hopefully my thoughts brighten up a bit soon! :)

xxx

Sorry havent been posting at all - i have thr same fears as you Reet. Skybie losing her baby boy jack was awful and made me want my boy out now even though hes not ready. Seems so unsafe in there which is irrational i know. Hes been kicking so much it makes me feel better. I feel really down when i should be happy. I just want him safe and alive in my arms.

Reet and Kellbell your not alone in your fears. I feel very similar thinking as soon as I am term I'll be encouraging labour to start. I feel my body to is unsafe which is ridiculous really when we have gotton pregnant and got to this stage so really we are doing everything right. Ill be asking for an induction as soon as my no intervention Ob will allow (it will be 40weeks at earliest knowing him I'm sure) and am more then happy for coninuous monitoring. Induction and the cascade of intervention doesn't worry me for myself the slightest. Its so predictable. Its natural labour thats not so predictable. The reason for my induction on my notes will read maternal anxiety. I'm completely honest. When its safe I want her out within reason. The whole lack of movements is the concern.

Reet lol about women not been like that. I made my DH a pile of heart shaped cupcakes. He came home when I wasn't expecting him to whilst they were cooking so I had to cover the oven with a teatowel and fortunately he didn't look in to see what was cooking before the master pieces were complete. Agree but Ferrals DH gets the husband of the year whilst mine is in the sin bin lol

S&S thinking of your little Obie and praying his going from strength to strength.

haha Mildez- Oh ur a good wifey! :) well maybe most women are like that and im just not! Come on.. ive only been married for a yr and a half.. i have a few things to learn obviously! My dh is away so we both get out of it... i looked into getting him something delivered where he is staying.. like choccies and roses.. but it was going to be so expensive! I told him last night that i had looked into it and he said 'the thoughts nice but i wld have been p***ed off if u had!! What a waste of money!' haha so im glad i didnt! He can be romantic but his is more spontaneous.. like when i found out i was pg he went out and bought me a $1800 diamond ring..! I was grateful but we SO cldnt afford it.. how can u get angry tho!! I honestly dont know how ur relationship can be a bit 'rocky' at the moment! U romantically cook ur dh lovely little cupcakes.. AND u give him a lot of love making sessions thanks to those awful veins!! haha. Gosh when im not happy with my dh he gets nothing... and thats a huge shock to his system as hes used to getting it everyday! :)

Kell- Ive been wondering where u are! Im glad im not the only one.. but its such an awful feeling i wish none of us felt like this! Yep it was Skybies story that started me off.. the poor thing :( i just cant imagine it.. right now its my worst nightmare and shes living it. My little one has been kicking and moving around heaps too.. and i just look down and feel my tummy and LOVE everything about it so much but that fear just wont leave the back of my mind. I am loving being pg but i just cant wait for the next 10 weeks to be over.. the worst thing is i cant talk to my dh about my feelings. He gets angry at me for being negative.. obviously he just doesnt understand! He is a pretty big believer that if u think about something too much u will make it happen. If anyone has read 'The Secret' or 'The Power of Now' u will understand where hes coming from. U know whats really f***ed up.. every night when i go to bed i say a huge thankyou for my baby still being alive and pray that i wake up in the morning and can still feel it kicking. Messed up or what?! I stop about 1 billion times throughout the day to make sure i can feel babies movements.. luckily i never have to wait too long for it too happen but gosh ill be a mess if baby starts having some quiet days! Stupid me read some article last night about monitoring babies movements, it said that cord compression can cause the baby to stop moving as frequently but it can also make the baby have a huge fit type thing where u can just feel it going crazy.. gosh u just cant win!!! Anyway i hope i havent depressed u anymore with my ramblings.. we can all be here for eachother.. counting down the days til we meet our little ones.. :) xxx

Mildez- Oh i think i will definitely be trying to get induced at 40 weeks too then.. altho im not too sure if my dh or ob will be too keen on that. I think from 36 weeks i will just start doing all those things that apparently bring labour on.. waxing.. lots of sex.. big walks.. Can anyone else tell me any tips???!

xx

Reet the only thing I was going to do to "induce myself" was sex and walking. Trying to remain upright alot which is not going to be easy as I sit alot on this computer. I might try a hot spicy meal but knowing my luck it will send me into labour and I will have diarrhea. How embarrassing would that be? Pushing with the runs. Maybe some rasp leaf tea would help. I'll start around the 38weeks I guess and hopefully she is hear by 39weeks (I haven't been beyond that before) if not I'll be asking for a S&S and if that doesn't work and more sex I'm praying my Ob will let me have an IOL if the cervix is favourable around my EDD. I'm even considering booking my own induction date now lol. The 10th of April sounds like a good date to me just a few days before my EDD. My 12week scan gave me at date of the 11th April but we are going on my LMP of the 13th. A scan at 6weeks said 12th April.

Getting really P***ed of with my internet/phone atm. I will do a decent post and try to post, will have full reception yet it wont bloody post and then my phone glitches, resets and I have lost everything yet again *deep breath* trying to calm back down again lol. Pg hormones do not make things any easier though lol

I really wish I couls go by my LMP date. I'd be due 16th Aug instead of 31st. Come to think of it, all my pregnancies have said that I am two weeks behind what I am supposed to be. Even the one where I only slept with XDP the once in the months surrounding and DNA test proved DS to be his. Maybe I should bring that up with my OB today... I'd be 13w6d if I went via LMP

reet - i know right, i think because she is "so well known around town" she didnt want people talking about her, spare me!

ferrals - thats so cute what a lovely dh

my dh woke me up this morning with a flower in my face, unfortunatly the flower stank like garlic and i woke up heaving and felt sick for the morning lol.. god love him though, what a nice though considering we dont celebrate valentines day and he is the most unromantic person ever! i love him more everyday!

hope everyone is having a nice valentines day

This is going to be a long one............ you ladies have been chatty!

Reet - I always was happy not having any friends, but then I thought I stumbled across a few when I started working with these ladies. You're so right though, I usually would avoid throwing parties etc to avoid being let down if nobody came...... but I thought this time would be different. And I didn't want to let my fear get in the way of what could have been a lovely occasion. Shows what happens when you try to be brave huh lol. Like you, I'm lucky that DP is my best friend and we've always got eachother. It makes me feel bad seeing how sad he is for me though, he's so cute. He's hoping to be able to take a month off at least but we just aren't sure where that money will come from. I think I'll have to do some rough budgeting and see how we go. 2 weeks would be enough though I suppose. I agree it would make a difference if he could just do his normal hours.... but sadly he doesn't get a choice whether or not he does OT. If there's more orders to be delivered, then that's that and it has to be done. We'll cope though, I just feel sad for him missing out on special time with the baby. About my bday, thanks for remembering me, and I did manage to have a yummy dessert when we went out for dinner with a couple we're good friends with. (Our only friends as it seems.) They even bought me a lovely present so I felt really special. Now enough about me, how cute that your bubby is always poking and prodding you hehe. I hope you didn't hurt yourself falling UP the steps lol. They say that's good luck though to trip up stairs... so yay for that? Your DH was sweet to fix your pants up for you, and it's so good that he was concerned and making sure to take good care of you. I say lap it up woman, :) There were a lot of stairs at the restaurant last night and DP was holding onto me for dear life, making sure I didn't fall.......... we are both lucky to have such caring men.

Dory - You're so right... I used to avoid those situations for that reason. I used to kick myself for 'missing out' on parties because I was too chicken to invite anyone. Now I realise I was better off that way :( I know exactly how you felt when your friends didn't bother to show up for your birthday party...... "stones into your heart" so true. And the christening? I would be even madder about that.. that's a once in a lifetime thing. A wise man once said that if you expect nothing, you won't be disappointed. But that's the hard part. How do you NOT expect your friends and family to want to celebrate important occasions in your life? I don't know how to 'turn off' that feeling of hurt and rejection. I'll let you know though when I work it out. :) I hope you enjoyed your cupcake in my honour. I'm dying to know how it tasted lol, and of course am very much looking forward to enjoying some cake together in person to celebrate bubby's arrival.

Clairesmummy - I had cramping too around 8 weeks, don't push any panic buttons yet hun. The nausea was also much the same, coming mostly when I was overly hungry. So sorry to hear about your DF's Grandma, what sad news. :hug:

Melster - I think the saying is misery loves company?? It does help to know I'm not the only one feeling down. We can all share our boo hoos and hopefully feel better after. Don't you hate when you cry at an awkward time/place? LOL, worst thing ever. I hope you can work things out with your hubby soon. It must be rough.

Alish - Good luck with your upcoming scan! About your friend, well this is only my opinion and by no means do you have to agree with it.......... but WOAH, I would be burning that bridge. Here's how I see it from the outside. She's selfish. She's an attention seeker. She isn't there for you when you need her support, and you both have VERY different views in terms of pregnancy, and different moral standards as well. (Not that I am judging her choice to take the morning after pill... but why did she have to get you involved??? Seems really high-school.) I'm not surprised you're having trouble believing her.... I would be sceptical too. Honestly though, all you can do is look at the facts and make your decision based on that. How does she make you feel? Do you look forward to the time you spend together? What are YOU getting from the relationship. That's my perspective.

Mildez - Maybe it's a good thing that your DH sees things differently to you? Keep up the communication, you will sort through it one way or another. Nothing is solved if there's no talking. :hug: I hope you can enjoy your one day off, though I know one day is never enough.

Freya - I am so sorry to hear your sad news. Nothing I can say will ease your pain, I know. But I hope you know all our hearts are aching for your loss, and that you aren't alone. :heartbeat:

Damprye - Good luck for your NT scan!

Ferrals - HOORAY FOR MATERNITY LEAVE!!! I am so excited for you. And wow, what a lovely DH you have to run you a bubble bath and do all those other things for you. If you're concerned about your little princess's activity, don't hesitate to see someone about it. I think my bub has slowed down a bit with movements but they're still fairly prominent at times. Let us know how things go. Oh and the mud cake for valentines day............. SO BEAUTIFUL. I think you officially have the most thoughtful DH in the history of the world, lol. We actually don't celebrate v-day, with my birthday the day before.... it's just not all that practical. I don't mind at all though, DP spoils me randomly all the time with plenty of attention. Still I will be sharing this little story with him so he can go 'AWWWWW' with me hehehehe.

Possum - Congratulations on reaching the 12 week mark. What a great milestone that one is. Good luck for your scan, and yes I definitely think there should be some kind of medal for giving yourself that many injections. I don't even like doing the finger needle thing to monitor my blood sugar.

Reet again - I have been feeling exactly the same worries after reading some of the sad stories of late loss recently on here. I don't have any advice, but I agree, it's hard! We also made the exact same remarks about alish's friend......... freaky. I think I have another cosmic twin! (Dory is my first lol)

Kellie - :hug: Well said, and agreed. Look at your ticker flying along.... yay!

AFM - Thank you all for the birthday wishes, made my day. We didn't do anything super duper special, as our money situation isn't so great, but it was still a nice day. I suppose as I get older I feel less and less like it should be MY day, and I just want cake and a nice dinner lol. Anyway, a couple we're good friends with went out to dinner with us (buffet... YES!) and they were just lovely, spoiling me by bringing me a present and all. I got a beautiful frame to put a picture of bubby in when he/she arrives, as well as a really pretty necklace which sparkles like you wouldn't believe. I think DP felt a bit sad because he hadn't gotten me anything, but we talked about it beforehand and I told him that my gift from him is growing in my tummy. It's not about getting stuff, it's about people celebrating with you and making you feel special. He did his part, rubbed my feet and even gave me a bit of a pedicure since I had cracked old lady heels... LOL.

I packed my labour bag on Saturday, which was exciting, and spent most of the day yesterday washing bubby's clothes and blankets so we're all prepared. I actually really enjoyed washing baby clothes, they're so cute and small, it was thrilling! Clearly, I take pleasure in the simple things in life hehe. I was also lucky enough to have my mum call me and instruct me to (and I quote) "go and get everything you need for the hospital TODAY, I'm putting $100 in your account on Monday because I can't sleep knowing your bag isn't packed." LOL.. I was telling her how I didn't have enough knickers or pj pants or anything really, so she said I should enjoy one last birthday spoiling myself before bubby comes along. I'm also on strict instructions not to go anywhere by myself in case I go into labour.. lol. Mothers can be amusing at times. At least she seems to be more excited and supportive now she's finished playing her stupid mindgames.

OK, so that was long. I need to keep up better! I think it's time for lunch and a snooze, I'm exhausted after that marathon post!

forshelby - oh my god you only have 29 days to go! how excitinnnnnnng!!!
yeah im seriously rethinking my friendship with her, im not as angry today and if she is pregnant she is pregnant, good for her. im just going to focus on my baby, thats all that matters :)

Mildez-yes the little bugger moved and figited all night and kept waking me with big boots in the ribs THANK GOD! they know how to stress their mummies dont they.
I have u/s wed and OB friday i am going to push for a ceasar at 37 weeks i an a nervous wreak at the moment and want her out safe.
Today she hasnt stopped moved moving:D

Reet-me to i have read about those ladies losing bubs right at the end and i have given mildez and ear bashing with my freaking out i am on egg shells waiting for something bad to happen when we are suposed to be enjoying our pregnancies.
Thank god i am having a c section now i didnt want one but now bring it on.
Castor oil worked for me twice.

LOL my fave thing i have done for my DH was to pack his lunch box for work and take a bite out of his sandwich and leave a note that said love you my sexy man you can take a bite out of me when you get home lol he loved it.

Forshelby-what would we do without our mums mine gave me $100 to fill the freezer with meat before bub comes and i only have 30 DAYS until my c section i wonder if our babies will share their birthday.

AFM-Little miss is moving heaps today so i feel better but i am still going to push for a c section at 37 weeks.

Ferrals - Oh I'm so glad your little disco queen is discoing away again. :) I love the bite out of the sandwich thing, that's hilarious! I once made DP a sandwich cut into a heart-shape, only thing is I lost so much bread doing that I had to give him 3 instead of 2 because they were so small LOL. It would be so cool if our babies shared their birthday! Good luck with your OB appointment, I hope you get the date you want. On the up side it must be nice to have the power to choose a date. Me I have no idea when things are going to get started, which is the only thing that makes me nervous. I'm confident about labour and delivery, sure I know it'll hurt....... but not knowing when it's going to happen has me a bit edgy! (How do I know when to groom my bikini area LOL) I get the feeling I'll go into labour while DP is at work and be here by myself worrying about him rushing to get to me. One step at a time though, I'll just worry about getting through today first hehe.

Forshelby-do what i did with my boys natural births every day i shaved my legs and bikini line and kept myself neat and tidy but at the end of the day the midwives dont pay attention to that.
I am still maintaining my bits and pieces everyday just in case i end up in hospital but with little miss i am struggling with my undercarriage i am more out front with her so my belly is in the way havnt seen my vag for weeks now not that i want to lol.
I will get my eyebrows waxed and eyelashes tinted and a wig chop the week before so when i am feeling like crap i dont have to look like it.

happy valentines my lovely lades.....

well...the child support was as we suspected.............i wont write the swear words i am saying.....they are basically going to make a decision based on all the incorrect information....the lady was a sub contracto to child support.....and they will make there judgement....and then we will have to contest it......and we are going to claim against her buisness and her selling of her buisness........so now its the waiting game and waiting for the ridiculous amount there going to come up with....we have to send her the amount we got....and we told her we have spend it all on bills etc..........so i am just waiting to see this amount. couldnt believe there was nothing we could do even tho we were telling her all the info was wrong.....cs is so swaer word swear word....pains in the uno what.

im still at mums but we saw each other today and we tried to get a few things sorted. i have told him that this is it....they have been separated for ten yrs and its time to take back control and not let her do this any longer..........im still at mums because i just want to process it all......its defiantly not fixed and its going to take time......hopefully we can sort it out.

i woke up with a blinding headache and threw up this morning from all the stress and i havent really felt baby very much at all and its concerning me alot. i thought being my second and 18 weeks that i would be feeling baby all the time.....

Hey ferrals..how u going darl

alish..thats right...u just focus on u and ur baby and let ur friend worry about whats going on in her life. Sounds very complex

forshelby....all that talking of ur baby is getting me excited....its so close....i cant believe ur the next one...i hope everything goes smashing for u and ur new bundle

damprye...oh i hear u about the internet and mobile...its so annoying...im on mine now

kellbell and reet......i dont think it matters at what stage of our pregnancies we are at there is always something to worry about and its completely normal...u just end up worrying about different things....best thing we can do is keep talking about those fears and get support...i have also been trying not to read about all the stories....for me it just plants seeds and makes me even more worried...

Freya......so sorry darl.....i really hope u are getting thro the best u can..thinking of u

possums....so glad things are going well and ur twelve weeks...yayyy

mildez..dory...everyone else...belly rubs

Melster-FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRK!!!!!! i hate cs if you and DH are in the right and have proof dont give in contest it take it to court.

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Forshelby- I could not read that without bursting into laughter. Mainly because I remember thinking that same thing haha. In the end I was doing it every couple of days, I was so paranoid that people were going to see down there and that there would be hair lol. In the end, I did end up going in the night before I was supposed to redo it... Without my razor haha. It really didn't matter in the end though, DS's head was hairier :p

Damprye: :rofl: Oh thanks for that! The image of Ds's head being hairier than your nether regions was priceless! But you are keeping us in suspense... you've posted twice today but nothing about your u/s. Didn't you go today?

Ferrals: :cryinglaugh: Oh dear! More ROFL. THe image of the disapearing vag, legs shaving and the 'wig chop'! And i loved your trick of biting DH's sandwitch. You are one inventive woman! You should be running some sort of romance advisory service! Sounds like your DH could run it with you with his choccy cake skills!

Kellbell, reet,mildez, melster: I totally know where you are coming from. Reading stories about other people's late losses freezes my blood. Makes me very scared. I'm trying so hard to get back to the state of denial i lived in when i was pg the first time. I know late loss could happen but the chances are small and so i'm trying really hard to keep thinking it won't happen to me (cos if it did, heaven forbid, it wouldn't feel any easier if i'd been worrying about it before hand and it won't feel any worse if i haven't been thinking about it). But i'm still feeling scared.

Melster: ****e about the child support stuff. It must be hard not to climb the walls in frustration.

Forshelby: Glad you were able to enjoy your day.

AFM: My u/s is tomorrow arvo. Will post tomorrow night. :pray:

Wow forshelby- i think u have beaten me with ur long post! Its normally me catching up and having to write huge posts! Its funny how our catch ups end up being so long.. when other ppl havent posted for ages and they catch up there posts can still only be like 10 lines long.. i think we talk to much! :) Here i go again... haha
I used to think friends were really really important and i was always on dhs back to stay in touch with his.. he was always saying he didnt need anyone but me in his life.. i thought it was a bit silly but in the last few years i have realised that i wld much prefer it to be like this.. just the 2 of us! I never have to worry about him hitting the town without me.. or waiting for hrs for him to come home from work cos hes with mates etc. I know its probly not overly healthy just relying on each other so much but hey it works for us right now so why not go with it! I think it also helps me having 2 sisters... who needs friends when u have family!
Speaking of family.. ur mum!! Wowee! It put a huge smile on my face reading what ur mumma did.. its great! :) Maybe shes turning over a new leaf.. she sounds like a normal mummy!
So did u have a good shop?? I was so close to asking u for ur address and sending u some super comfy pants for hospital.. if u look at my latest tummy pic im wearing them in it.. they are bloody magnificent! But they are $70... and its not that ur not worth it!..but i really cant afford it :( I hope u found some bargain knickers and pants! How exciting packing ur hospital bag!!! Yay!!! U will have to tell me in a few weeks what u packed in ur babies bag.. i think ill need some help :)
I think my dh is only going to have a month off max when babys born... im hoping he can work around town for a day here and there still in that time tho just to keep some money flowing in.. ive warned him he better not be working too far away when our edd approaches.. that wld be stressful if he was miles and miles away! I hope u guys can sort something out so he can have the whole month off but yeah if it can only be 2 weeks that will be ok too.. i just hope for ur sake he doesnt get too much OT when he starts back again.
Oh and that was hilarious that u wrote basically what i wrote to alish!! (u wrote it better tho) hahaah while i was reading ur post i was thinking hmmm this is so similar..its like shes copying me! even the high school comment... haha..definitely some kind of cosmic twin connection there... :)
And finally..! Im so glad u had a good bday and that u got a lovely foot rub and dead skin removing session.. very sweet of ur dp!

Now girls girls girls... (forshelby and ferrals) please go and get a bikini or a brazilian wax done before u have ur babies.!! Forget this shaving business! Honestly u will never look back! Ive just had mine done so i figure that will get me thru til im 34 weeks and then ill go and get another one just before 39 weeks.. I promise u u will love it!!! I really dont know how u girls are even managing to still look after that area.. i used to love looking for ingrown hairs now i cant see anything! Lucky my waxer looks after it all now :) I was talking to someone and they also said if u need stitches after giving birth it will heal a lot better and be a lot cleaner if u have been waxed. Have i convinced u???!

Ferrals- Are u being serious u had castor oil twice?! Isnt it revolting???! Woohoo for ur little disco queen making a comeback! Must be a huge relief!

Melster- Hope ur headache has gone and ur not feeling sick anymore, how awful to wake up like that :(

Possum- Cant wait to hear all about ur u/s tomoro!!! I hope u get a good tech that talks u thru everything. And ur so right.. no amount of worrying will change the outcome of things.. i need to remember that!! So were u really pretty carefree ur first time around?? I sometimes wonder if i hadnt had my mc wld my thoughts be different.. like wld i breeze thru pg not worrying about anything... I guess the m/c has opened my eyes alot tho.. maybe even too much. I suddenly know all the little things that can go wrong.. whereas this this time last year i was 9 weeks pg and spotting but not really freaking out.. oh to be nieve again... Once again best of luck tomoro!! x

AFM- I am feeling a bit better now.. it makes things a lot easier once u have opened up and shared ur fears and worries.. other ppls words help so much (a big thanku to the beautiful Kit for ur pm xxx) And i guess it just doesnt feel right to be so worried when u have a lovely little bottom..or head.. poking out from ur tummy all day reminding u of the lovely journey ur on.. its just so beautiful! Im also going to try and stay busy busy busy! And focus on the present.. if u live in the present moment u have nothing to be afraid of.. its worrying about the future thats the killer.. scared of the unknown.
Oh before i go.. here is the link to my latest fb tummy pics for u girls with fb! u will also see a couple pics of my little beautiful puppy dog on my main profile page :) Our beautiful baby! | Facebook
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Just a quick one from my phone- reet your belly is gorgeous!!!

haha finally its looking like there is a baby in there and i havent just drank a carton of beer every day for the last 6 months!
Kell- pls dont be a stranger! Keep posting when u have time too... tell us all about ur little ones movements and the funny little things he does during the day.. honestly we can keep each other positive! :) It was hilarious the other day my little one was having a little skitz attack it felt like for about 10 mins and it ended up giving itself the hiccups! It was so cute!! I felt sorry for it tho so i was trying to scare them away by making loud noises unexpectedly.. haha yes im a weirdo!
Oh i just saw ur ticker! Wat a big girl! Are u planning anything for ellas 2nd bday?? I bet the next 3 weeks will absolutely zoom past! In 3 weeks time ill be going 'see it did!! we only have 7 to go!' :)

I do feel better tonight - thanks for everyones advice it all helped
I will try and post more i just felt abit lost after what hqppened to skybie
Im going to try qnd be more positive
My little man had the hiccups tonight too its super cute. He hates me putting anything on my tummy he has to kick it off - i sat the remote there the other day and he went beserk. I should try it with the malteasers like the add
So you reckon go the wax- its like a forest down there at the moment TMI i know i wouldnt want to go into labour now poor midwives lol. i havent been able to see down there for a long time haha i should do something about it!
Does the waxing hurt down there though???