TTC & Taking Clomid &/or Metformin ~ November 2006 # 2

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November 15th 2006

butterfly_warrior CD 36
My previous cycles: 35 - 78 - 54 - 25 - 43 - 79
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10d2ba
Medications: Metformin & Clomid

Hayseed CD 23
My Previous Cycles 49 - 31 - 27 - 26 - 24 - 25 - 28 - 28 - 26
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/61c46
Medications: Clomid

ktgirl CD 10
My Previous Cycles 35 - 78 - 31- 28 - 32 - 31 - 32
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdd99
Medications: Clomid and Metformin

Mako CD 30
My Previous Cycles 28 - 35 - 35 - 38
Medications: Clomid

Monnie CD 8
My Previous Cycles 30 – 26 – 26
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1593bb
Medications: Clomid

princess CD
My previous cycles: 46 - 77 - 32 - 34 - 40 - 36 - 37
Medications: Metformin

Catch up on your old thread here

Sushee, my DD (nearly 2) was sitting on my lap earlier, pointed to your picture and said "oooooooh. pretty girl". Awww, too cute.

She's right though!!

Not having such a good day today... It's that busy time of year at work (yes, to the person who asked in the last thread, I'm a maths teacher), and I was racing around absolutely flat out... got to lunch time and I was feeling quite faint and shaky - just needed food! I commented that I didn't feel so good and a passing casual teacher dropped the morning sickness comment... that then had me in tears! Fortunately, most of the women in my staff room know something of what's going on with me, so there was someone around to talk some sense into me... :crying: Starting to wonder if it's ever going to happen for us.

erm... just noticed I'm about a week behind in cycle days... can someone fix me up?

BW

O BW, sorry that you are having a bad day. Hope you feel better soon.

Me *VENT* ahead, sorry girls, I dont do this to often.

As some of you know im very near 40, 3 weeks actually! and if I wasnt pregnant by then i was going to stop. Today Im very very sad, af turned up bang on 28 days. I really thought this was the month, had some symptoms,so I have landed really heavy to say the least. I dont know what to do!! I thought I had it sorted, and would be happy to move on if it didnt happen, but Im sitting here devestated. What if it is never going to happen. I thought after the Lap back in july i would fall easy, duh was I wrong. Its now 19 months, 3 miscarriages and nothing. Im so disappointed. Dont know where to go. My Doc seems happy enough to let me wait alittle more b4 anything else... HULLO!! all my test reveal nothing is wrong. I have heard many times on other posts that girls in there mid 30's are worried about there eggs, and i think O my what about mine. Our DS is nearly 3. I had him when I was 37 no trouble at all. So could things have gone down hill from then. Wouldnt tests tell me if something else was wrong. Prog test reveal all is ok...
O am so sorry for the long post. Im just glum glum today and I normally pick up and feel positive for the next month. But today I just cant... I so want another baby... just so badly... I dont really know how you just say o well lets give up!!
Maybe tomorrow I will feel better.
Also I dont know where I really belong on BB. Being my age and all and running out of time, I dont think I fit in, so hope you dont mind listening to me waffle. Clomid was my next thing , thats why I kinda slotted in here! But am thinking I prob should Buzz off.
Hey all you other beautiful woman, I hope today is going ok, and we see some BFP's very soon. Sorry for no personals.
take care

chelle66

this journey is such a lonely isolating one, but please don't think that because you don't quite fit anywhere specific, that you're not supported and cared for. I too am finding that I don't know where I quite fit anymore, but am still willing to let the lovely people of BB support me and help me through my own unique difficulties. Please don't feel like you need to leave. You have a right to be here and helped along as much as the next person.

Willow, aw your DD *blush^ I could kiss her! Lol! How cute!

BW, sorted out your CD. I'm sorry you had a bad day. I used to get the 'must be morning sickness' thing too. I hated it with a vengeance.

thankyou sushee, you are so right. Its nice to be able to come on here and support all you lovely woman. It can just be so hard, and often I find myself staring into the computer screen, not wanting to 'air' my sadness and sometimes depression. So I dont. And then weeks go by and then I dont know what to say at all!
Will try harder.
thankyou for your kind words. Needed today!

Chelle :hugs:

I understand how upsetting this is. As for eggs being old - there is more to it than that. Your nutrition, your general health. Statistically it's true that "older" women have a higher risk of miscarriage but conversley there are many women that are your age (and mine!) and older who have healthy babies.

If you want another child try not to focus on your age. Have you had hormonal tracking throoughout your cycle? Is your luteal phase greater than 12 days? Tell your body that your eggs are beautifully healthy and tell your body you want to have another pregnancy that results in a live healthy baby. Come in here and let us all give you a hug and a shoulder to lean on.

As Sushee says we are all unique - we have our own story. We are all wonderful women though and we can share each others journey and triumph with each others successes and cry with each others sadness. Hopefully though the sadness is behind us and it's positive pregnancy tests and strong healthy babies for us all!

:hug: my friend

Pollyanna - yep you're right. A lap does give you an incision site and you can have winding pain. I was lucky. My incision caused me no trouble at all and when the stitches were removed on the Friday (had it done Monday) everything was already almost healed. (A quick healer I guess.) My shoulder pain was due to the gas they use to "blow" you up but as I said I was fortunate enough for it to be more of an annoyance rather than actual pain. Also, not everyone feels discomfort from the gas.Everyone is different. Maybe I heal quickly, maybe I have a high pain threshlod, I don't know. But not every procedure goes exactly the same for every person and also it does not neccessarily go the same each time for the same person. Different person, different surgeon etc. As I said, I was lucky that time but it doesn't mean things would definitely go as smoothly if I had to have another one someday.
Best wishes,
Debbie

Chelle,
I know where you are coming from. When we lost our last baby Luke in September last year I said we would try again for 6 months and if no luck stop. Wellllll, it's November 2006 now! I am still hopeful especially as I now know that there isn't anything really wrong and as my OB said, the Clomid should give me a "kick start". Here's hoping he is right.
Big hugs to you and don't ever be worried to vent!
Debbie

Pollyanna - forgot to say that I had a hysterscopy (kind of like a D&C) at the same time as the lap. So I had an incision in the tummy button and one just below the panty line and and the hysterscopy was done vaginally.
Hugs,
Debbie

hi guys!!

i've been MIA- just getting my head around the misscarriage but reading and posting every day- sotmime it does feel pointless though :(. Just on met this month!!

AF is due in a few dasy and temp has dropped so- not sure whether i feel happy or sad.:confused: will go and to clomid if i have AF this weekend.

love to all my girls!!

Hi

Chelle66 I am sorry that you are having a really bad day. I hope things improve for you soon. I'm sending you a great big hug cause it sounds like you need one :hug:

Princess Just remember to take one day at a time and know that we are all here for you.I hope if af does arrive this weekend that she is kind to you. Sending you a hug too:hug:

Has anyone had any pain similar to a stitch on either side of abdomen on or around cd 24? If so what was it and how long did it last? I have this type of pain atm and its driving me mad. I had similar pain on the oposite side in september when I had a cyst but I am trying really hard not to think its the same. Would appreciate some advice.

Thanks, Sushee.

Big :hug: for you Chelle. Doesn't matter what box you feel like you do or don't belong in, don't worry if all you seem to post is nagative. We've all had times like that, and the thing that has helped me out most, is posting it here and sharing my troubles. Realising that you aren't alone is wonderful. The women here in this thread, and on the whole site in general, are just wonderful. Burdens are much easier to carry when they are shared.

Princess, I have been missing you and thinking about you. Lots of :hug: for you, too.

Not much to say on my end of things... Just generally plodding along. Won't have acupuncture this week, so looking forward to a relaxed Friday evening for a change. Sent lots and lots of questions off to a friend of mine so waiting for answers but thinking very seriously about which specialist to go to, and what monitoring my GP can do for me between now and then...

BW

you guys are all truly amazing. Such wondeful warm comments. I can go on and I think I will try to feel a little differently to the 'age' thing. Normally I dont let it get to me. maybe cos its not many sleeps till I actually turn it. ;)
I will post personals tomorrow.
hugs to each and everyone of you!
love

Chelle - a big hug for you. Believe me, the forties aren't that bad and they certainly can deliver beautiful, healthy babies!

A big hello to BW. Hope you do have a great weekend. Relax and enjoy yourself.

Princess - we are all here for you so don't forget it. Take care and have a good weekend.

Hugs to everyone,
Debbie

Debbie, thanks for your encouraging support. Does make you wonder how one wd get on without it.
BW, how are you today? I agree with Debbie, hope you have a relaxing weekend.What level children do you teach maths too? that wd be a hard job. My DS is always putting his maths in front of me, just cos he knows I have no idea! smartybum(14andhalf)hmm

Mako, sorry I cant help you with your pain question, I had alot of things happening to me on and off b4 AF, I got really confused about it all.hope someone else here can help u.

Princess, you poor girl, hope you are feeling better soon enough, miscarriage is a horrible thing.life can be so cruel. Big hugs to you.

Well today I had to go to the Docs, because I have had the worst P pain! thought I was going to die. Flooded last night. Anyway she has put me on some killer drug, said its the latest wonder drug out . Cant understand why I am having it tho.Its still unbearable at the moment. Sure hope it passes soon.
Anyway also had a good talk about the baby thing! as all you other woman have said, it can happen, it does just take longer.... and sometimes alot longer, so have to get a positive ora around me, and just keep trying and hope that we get lucky soon enough, and forget about the '40'thing..I dont feel it, so why should I let it bother me!She said im fit and healthy, I have always taken care of myself, so that should help. SOOOOOOOOOO... on that note,I have opks for next month, might help with the guess work, because last month I did feel like I was 'O'ing for about a fortnight!!!lol.
Deb, you sound so posivite, I feel that alittle has just rubbed off on me, so thankyou so much for that!!! How are YOU?
Well I need to shake this permanent headache of mine, its just the pits. Pills havent helped that much.
So take care love

I am happy to hear you sounding better Chelle. I am 39, and I reckon I've got gorgeous eggs ready to hatch!!!! I am thinking you have too! Try not to even speak or think of "it taking a lot longer" when you are older. It doesn't always and it may not. SAY positive things to yourself really tell that body of yours that it is healthy and can produce a beautiful healthy baby. It relly does have an impact if you have cared for your body and do good things to it. It DOES make a difference. You ARE going to have a healthy strong baby Chelle!

Thank you for asking how I am. I am going well. I have times where I can't believe I have to go through ttc again and all that goes with that. But then I think of the excitement of finding I am pregnant again and that is what I am choosing to focus on. Some days I feel really sad about my "Goodbye Babies" and I just let myself feel that for a time and then fix on the future with a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby. I am hoping that it happens quite swiftly! I will begin clomid when I get a period which I am assuming will be at the end of November early December. A positive pregnancy test would be the worlds best Christmas gift for me - (hello Universe did you hear that???!!!!)

Debbie - how is the TWW going for you? How are you feeling?

Michelle - How are you and Alf? I haven't heard from you for a few days. :hug:

Butterfly and Princess :hugs: to you both.

Deb - TWW is almost over 9DPO today. Have been feeling good. Have been having a lot more CM post "O" than usual. Possibly the effect of the Clomid? Almost feels wet sometimes (sorry if TMI!). I have felt so good this cycle. Maybe just the thought of taking the Clomid has relieved some of the stress. I feel very positive and what will be will be. Those two things maybe a bit of a condratiction but I hope you know what I mean. Having said all of that, I have woken with slight feeling in my tummy today. Not pain as such, just a feeling which is the normal thing I get about 5 days before AF shows up. It usually goes away and then the day before the ache starts again just a bit stronger. So, not such a good sign. But, I have to confess that i have had this before when I was pregnant. First time was with the twins and the other time was with either Chloe or Grace. I just remember telling DH that there was no luck this month and then five days later broke the news that I was pregnant!. SOOO, still being optimistic. As they say, it's not over 'till the fat lady sings! So here's hoping she keeps her mouth shut!!!

Hugs as always,
Debbie

Hey Debbie,
Just read your post. I really hope that you have some success this month. Sounds promising. I'm really thinking of you heaps and praying that soon you have your little miracle-those two magic line on that strip that say BIG FAT POSITIVE!!!Then the singing fat lady can shove that up her jumper...lol
By the way have you been on clomid for long? I'm out again for this month this time af showed up after only 12 days. REally angry about what and why my body is doing this,but soon i'll have the answers i so desperately need.Even considered cancelling the procedure until AF showed up and reminded me why i need to do something about this pain and inconvenience. Have a wonderful weekend;and thanks for your recent information,care and support.

XX Pauline

Hi ladies.

Firstly, what a supportive site this is! I hope you don't mind me joining your little group and hopefully I can add something positive too.

My husband (33) and I (31) threw caution to the wind in January 05. In about August 05 we started to wonder and organised our first meeting with a spec. To cut a long story short I have PCOS along with hbp and after altering medication and getting healthier my period arrived after long service leave, this week - MUCH to our surprise!
We had a FS appt yesterday to touch base and my bp spec had given me an excellent report. FS gave me a script for Clomid to start in the morning!

We are so happy and very hopeful. I'm trying to read up and gear myself up for what to expect (frankly all I have heard is it's nickname is 'relationship wrecker!') ha ha. I am on a small dosage (25mg, cd 5-9) purely because my FS does not want to see more than 1 follicle, in an effort to minimise the risk of multiples. This is due to already being high risk because of my bp.

I am booked in to have a scan on Nov 20th to check for possible follicles.

I would love to hear any stories or words of wisdom from you ladies who have first hand experience with assisted conception. Is it normal to have a scan to check for follicles? This is an internal ultrasound isn't it? oh boy, I really do have a lot to learn!

Look forward to chatting here and wishing for your dreams and wishes to come true!

Good afternoon ladies,
Sorry to invade your thread but I've been searching around to see how Princess has been going since her miscarriage. I just wanted to say hi Princess and that I'm thinking of you during this hard time.
Thanks for letting me invade. I'll sprinkle around lots of baby dust before I duck off.

Cheers,
Dan.

Hi Deb - *alf* and I are good. Nothing exciting to report which is fine by me. Just very tired after 2 early shifts and U2 in the middle (excellent concert BTW :D)

Off to bed but I will do personals soon. Love and baby dust to you all :hug:

Wow Michelle 9 weeks already, that time sure seems to have gone fast. I hope all is well with you and "ALF". When do you go for another scan?

Welcome smudge, I hope you get a bfp very soon. Good luck with the clomid. Some people get all sorts of side effects from it but, hopefully your like me and don't get any of them. Keep us posted on how you are going.and good luck with your u/s on the 20th :)

Awwww thanks Mako - it does seem to have gone quickly doesn't it!! My next scan is the NT between 11-12 weeks (when my OB will do the scan at the clinic for me). I thought it was a bit early but that is when he wants to see me so who am I to complain :D

I am sooooo full. I think I ate too much for dinner or there just isn't the room there used to be. I am getting a little scared about the tummy that is sticking out. I am not the slenderest but I can usually suck my tummy in with the best of them ..... not now!!! I didn't get to full term with Caitlyn and I was very *compact* so I don't think I have the excuse of pre-stretching. Oh well, a joy to behold. Won't be able to keep this quiet for much longer although scrubs for work do hide inumerable sins ;)

:hello: I've been fairly quiet for the last few days because I'm just not doing so well.

the job situation appears to be stabilising, and the anxiety is under control (or medicated out of existence! but at least I'm not too zombie-like), but I just feel... bleh... Mood swings the last few days have been awful - I feel like I'm either grumpy or depressed... and the jealous feelings about the two pregnant bellies at work are just out of control at the moment! I wish I could pull myself out of feeling this way, but I just can't! I'm stuck.

BW

Hi girls. Sorry for ducking in and out lately and not really contributing. I have been quite busy last week and then this week, I had to do a flying visit to Adelaide (literally - there and back in a day) to attend a funeral. Took me a day to get over it. And then we had visitors. But things should settle down now before the big rush up to Xmas.

Hugs to a few of you girls in here. A lot of us are having rotten times and getting bad results back. We all need a bit of a lift. I sort of feel like I am stuck in a rut and feel like I am just living from month to month and coming up disappointed each time. Sigh...

Well, the BD fest is effectively over for us. Just doing it for recreational purposes now. Because of taking cows to the show last weekend and then attending this funeral this week, my BD schedule has been rather stuffed up. Fingers crossed that we caught the eggie though. I think I might have mentioned in the last thread that this time I was on Clomid (before that I was on clomahexal and then serophene). I know that they are all the exact same drug, but this time, I definately didn't have the "heaviness" in my ovaries. Praying that I did O. I used OPKs, but missed the day I think I O'd because I was travelling to Adelaide. i did take an OPK with me, but I forgot to use it. The previous day, the line was almost as dark as the control, so I expect that the follwoing day was the day. Who knows!!!???

So if things go awry, I expect to see AF in about 9 days. God, I hope not though.

Hi Michelle, Good luck with your scan. I'll be waiting to hear how it all goes so don't for get to post here. I'll be thinking of you and your little ALF. I love the name btw.:hug:

BW, I hope things get better for you soon. Sorry to hear that you are feeling this way. The pressure of ttc and work along with life in general certainly takes its toll. Take care and chin up sweety, hugs to you :hug:

Hi Hayseed, You sure have been a busy lady of late. I hope things become a little quieter for you soon. I soooo hope you've caught that little eggie and have a bfp to announce. You are so right about us all needing a bit of a lift :)

Hi to everyone else sending lots of baby dust and sticky vibes to all. Hope you are all having a great weekend.

Hi Girls,

Just taking a quick break from a very busy weekend to say hello. We are painting the outside of our house this weekend and have just taken a break for lunch and to escape the heat! Every time we plan a big job around the house we get a stinking hot day!

Not much happening with me, just plodding along waiting for AF to turn up, probably tomorrow judging by another temp drop this morning. Something interesting this cycle though - no LP spotting so far (cd27). This is the first cycle in 6 months that I haven't had it. If it wasn't all in vain I'd be a bit excited about that but considering I'll be under the knife in 9 days time it's a bit of a moot point now. Still, depending on the outcome of my lap, at least we now know that 100mg is a better dose for me if we can continue to ttc without ivf. I am assuming it's the increase in my dose that has finally stopped the spotting but will discuss this with my FS if it becomes relevant.

Chelle - I read your posts at work the other day and i really felt for you but was waaaay too busy to reply. All the other girls have since said what i was going to say anyway! Deb just has a way with words that picks you right back up doesn't she?? I just wanted to add that I am "only" 28 and I still feel that panicked feeling when I hear my biological clock ticking. I think everyone has a life plan mapped out in their heads to a degree and mine included having all my babies by the time I turned 30. I don't think there's a single thing wrong with having babies in your thirties or forties, but it's a very personal thing and I just wanted to be a young mum. That's not going to happen now and it's something that I too struggle with, so it's not really about age to a degree, I think it's more about hopes and dreams and plans not working out the way we wanted them too - ifykwim. Although I do appreciate your concern about your age impacting on your fertility. Anyway, glad to see you are feeling better.

Pollyanna - how are you feeling? I hope you are not getting too anxious about Thursday, but understandable if you are. I'm going to be shocking next week I think. I am thinking of you and praying for a brilliant result.

BW - you really have had a crappy month all round haven't you? Hope you are feeling better soon. ((Hugs))

Michelle - glad to see you pop in and that you and alf are continuing to do well. I think about you often and look forward to hearing about your next wonderful scan. Glad you enjoyed U2 - one of my girlfriends is 13 wks prg and went both nights!! I was impressed by her stamina! LOL!

Deb - congrats on becoming a moderator!!! Brilliant decision by BB. I know I'm a bit slow but I only just read about it.

Hayseed - I hope you did manage to catch that egg and this is THE month! I agree with you about the different brands of the drug - I took clomahexal the first two cycles and serophene this cycle - I felt A LOT more ovary action on clomahexal than I did on serophene which is strange considering I took 100mg this cycle and my previous cycles on clomahexal were only 25mg and 50mg. I know they say they are identical but I think if I do another clomid cycle I might go back to clomihexal.

So nice to hear from you Willow!
You are so right about having a plan mapped out. We all have that and they all vary but they are real. House painting! I am glad it's you and not me! Good luck with it Willow!

Butterfly - it can be confronting when you see a pregnant belly. It is a difficult one to deal with sometimes. One of my dearest friends is pregnant with twins. She is a week ahead of what I would be. So, our babies were due only 7 days apart. I am enormously happy for her, but now and then I look at her belly and I feel sad for Eggy and me and our family. However, I can't wait to meet her twins when the time is right for them to be born. She has asked me to be at the birth of her babies - it's always an honour and this birth will be even more special to me somehow... By the time the twins are due I will be pregnant again I feel sure...
Hayseed the waiting game for you. I have all things crossed for you...

Chelle :hugs: Sweet love.

Michelle - You have been a mum before so that belly can let it all hang out. I am so excited that you are at 9 weeks. I can't believe how that has flown (for me at least!)


I have had a full on weekend. My husbands fortieth last night - it was wonderful, good friends, good food and good wine - not that I had any wine. I have decided to behave as if I am pregnant so not a morsel touched my lips!

Talk to you all soon

Thankyou to everyone for all your kind words, love and support.

I don't know what's wrong with me, but all I want to do is sit in the corner and cry! I have no motivation to do the things I'm meant to be doing, and I just can't find the energy to force myself to do so. The strangest thing is that today a friend from church rang me to see how I'm going... all my old friends have children now and go to morning services, but I'm still going in the evenings only - makes it so much easier to cope at times. My friend made sure to tell me that she understands why it is so, that everyone understands, but they miss me and are all praying for me. I felt so much better after the phone call, but since then I've sunk back into the pit.

It's crazy - there's no reason for me to feel this way - life is good! Why can't I be happy? Hormonal mood swings? Possibly... I don't know! My hormones are all messed up and I just don't know how my body reacts to them... There's never been a pattern for me to be able to sit here and think "I'm feeling XXX, it's hormonal, I must be XXX in my cycle". I hate not knowing! I hate the fact that with me being so sick we haven't had sex in weeks! I hate the fact that sex has now become about making babies rather than enjoying being intimate with my husband. I hate the fact that we've been TTC for nearly a year, and I still can't even ovulate. I hate the fact that what most women can take for granted never actually happens for me.

I just want to be normal! I just want to be pregnant! Failing that, I just want to be able to have a regular and predictable cycle. I want the clomid and metformin to work for me. I want answers to all the questions I have. I want to know why my body doesn't work properly and what will make it work.

I want to go smash things and throw things, and cry buckets of tears, but I just can't let myself... I feel like I've got to be super woman and hold it all together... show that I can go on with a smile on my face when works sucks, I'm infertile, and the one thing I most want seems to be so easy for everyone else but is absolutely impossible for me. I miss my friends and family who are all back in Newcastle. I miss my grandparents who won't be here at Christmas.

I feel scared, alone and broken... but I can't let myself show that to the world... I sometimes feel like I can't even show that to my husband.

And now that the tears have started, they won't stop... Sorry for the vent - it's just so hard right now!

BW

You vent all you like Butterfly :hugs:

O Butterfly, I wish I could come and give u a hug! We all know how you are feeling, so we could sit in silence and listen! My heart aches knowing that you are feeling so lost, remember you dont need to be superwoman, just a woman! I pray you will find some happiness very soon. As Deb said, we are here to listen, so vent away

Heya Deb,hugs back to you...
Willow, thankyou so much for your kind post. You are right about the path thing. I think that is what has messed it up for me, and not wanting to be pregnant at 40! BUT... so dearly want another little bundle, and I so see myself with one...So on that note Im feeling alot more positive and am thinking about things differently. I do have to say it feels so much better. Im way more relaxed about it! well at the moment anyway...haha, no doubt this will change...
Good to hear you are doing great Michelle, wow 9 weeks, that has gone so fast..

Godluck Debbie and Mako, you will be next to announce some BFP'S!
welcome Smudge, you will find all the support you need on this site, such lovely warm caring woman.

Hi and goodluck to anyone I have missed, getting late and muct go to bed, AF has nearly left the building after such terrible torture, damn witch.
take care xxxx

BW - :hug: I have nothing to make this better, only to let you know that I can empathise with what you are feeling. I am here for you if you want to vent further (or on email if it's easier). Take care of yourself.

Pollyanna - well it looks as if the fat lady will be singing again this month. Started spotting. Yesterday only once and only a very small amount but I did notice (as you do!). Today it is definitelsy spotting. Only dark brown but that's how it usually starts for me. I'm only 11DPO so I will be lucky if I manage to make it to a 12 or 13 day LP. Thought the Clomid would at least sort that out for me even though I'm on 50mg. Oh, this is my first cycle of Clomid. As I'd never had any problems prior to my last pregnancy loss I thought that 50mg would be enough. My OB said that if I wasn't pregnant in 3 months to come back. Seems like a long time if things aren't improving. I would have felt better even if AF had arrived but with no previous spotting and a 14 day LP. That was how I always was without fail. I feel if I can sort that out then I will be in with a chance. Don't worry, I'm not really feeling too down. Will call for my Prog test results at lunch time. I feel that I should get a good result as all the symptoms that progesterone give me were a lot stronger this month (need to go to the loo, taste in my mouth etc). I know I get these with an increase in progesterone because I have used prog cream in the past. The days I used the cream I got those symptoms and at no point was I pregnant.
Anyway, good luck for Thursday. It will be over before you know it. I will be with you in spirit.


Hi to everyone else and here's to a great week for us all.
Debbie

Debbie - this is my first cycle with no spotting and an lp of 14 days. First time in the 6 months following my lap in May. I had no improvement whatsoever on 50mg and took 100mg this cycle.

Perhaps contact your dr to discuss an increase this month?

Thanks Willow. I was thinking along the same lines. Hope you are well.
Debbie

Did I read a post somewhere that someone had upped their Clomid dose from 50mg to 100mg without asking Dr? If I'm right, what did Dr think when he found out(if he found out)?
Debbie

Hi Debbie,
Could it be an implantation bleed? I had this with one pregnancy. If not then I would up it to 100mgs. Give your obs a call. However, I suspect that she/he will say if your progesterone level is good to give it one more cycle on 50mgs then up it the next to 100mgs.
It is never wise to take meds or increase doseage without the guidance of your doctor. The risk you take with an increasein clomid is hyperstimulation which is rare. However, there a many women on 100mgs and many women for whom clomid doesn't work too well on 50mgs but does the job on 100mgs. :wink: Please come back and let us know your progesterone results. I am sure it will be good.

Willow, good to see you. Glad to hear that 100mgs is better for you.

Butterfly - how are things?

Chelle - good to "see" you again.

Love to you all, have to fly for now!

Bugga debbie, shes an absolute old hag!!! hmmm thought I had read that 2 somewhere,or maybe someone was thinking about doing that???
Hope she gets lost quick.

Me, well AF only lasted 3 days, then started again this morning... old cow! she gave me so much grief, I couldnt even sit without that awful pain shooting up inside you. O well its gone now, and so have the nasty headaches, so im on top of the world today, have cleaned the car, and am helping sister paint her house so they can sell it. So that helps filll in my days.
hi to everyone else