Will anyone be getting this?
I asked my Ob about it the other day and he said that it's not a live vaccine so giving it to pregnant ladies is fine. I'm just wary of vaccinations when pregnant, live or not.
What does everyone else think?
Thanks
Sue x
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Will anyone be getting this?
I asked my Ob about it the other day and he said that it's not a live vaccine so giving it to pregnant ladies is fine. I'm just wary of vaccinations when pregnant, live or not.
What does everyone else think?
Thanks
Sue x
That confuses me too. I have read elsewhere that it is NOT ok to give during preg, now all of a sudden it is.
It also hasn't been tested very well and imho rushed though...
Exactly my thinking.
The thing is, the next strain of swine flu is going to be much worse. I am really torn about what to do. Getting a bad flu when pregnant is not good.
Ugh.
I'm considering getting it... I was quite worried last time it hit.
CDC To Urge Swine Flu Vaccine For Pregnant Women : NPR
Just googled it and found this link. It's American but interesting.
Arrrgggghhh, still not sure though!
S X
This Swine Flu vaccine is like the normal flu vaccine - getting this vax will not stop you getting hte next strain of swine flu.
Just like this years flu vaccine will not stop you getting next years' strain either....
Personally I would not get any vaccine whilst pregnant, live or not.
Limeslice, totally agree. Just found another article that says they don't have enough evidence to show whether or not it will cause deformities in unborn babies.
I think that I've just decided not to!
can i read that info plz?:
:rolleyes: mmm ive been thinking of it every time it comes on the tv and im very frightend of the swine flu when i first got pg it was rageing but i just tried my best to stay indoors as much as i could but now theres the injection and in my own opinion im just to scared to get that now as i really dont know whats in it what it can really do to me or bub so im gonna say no way to any injections for me while being pg its taken me so long to get pg i cant take any chances.
thanks for this thread to cause i really didnt know if in my own head i was being silly by not having this injection (you know like some hippy or something who hated injections lol but im not im just not to sure thats all :rolleyes: oh and i love hippys to lol ).;)
Just had to find it again:
Taking A Pregnant Pause On Swine Flu Vaccine - NPR Health Blog : NPR
There doesn't seem to be anywhere online that gives definitive answers as to whether there is any effect on unborn babies. Which is why I am unsure about getting the vaccine.
Although, they do seem to think that it's worse for pregnant women if we do get the swine flu..... but that is the case for ANY flu.
S X
Ooohhhh but here is another really good AUSSIE article from the Age newspaper with a myth busting theme.
Swine flu vaccine myths 'busted' by experts
It suggests that Swine Flu won't hit our shores till Feb next year. Will we be ok till then?
S X
Sue - there are no difinitive answers on its affects on babies, as there is no testing for it - the vaccine has not been trialled and tested long enough to know such things - so there is NO difinitve answer anywhere for that question.
Yeah, i know, that is my concern.
Ugh.
And thats exactly the reason why I won't be getting it. If they can't prove to me that nothing will happen to my baby - then I don't want any part of it.:
Not like I have any people coming to visit me anyway.. LOL.. sometimes its good to be a hermit.
yeah if we avoid it if it brings one arly labor we could be alright hey?! Also i have a low papp-a score so i might go early anyhow hrmmm:
i wont be getting it yes there is a risk either way but at least i know the risk this way !!!
ds had swine flu the dr said he belived so but due to non testing then they said they have to go on the symptoms. He is fine now i isolated myself from him at another member of the familys house.
I wont b getting it.
I work at a big hospital so they will be rolling out the vaccinations really soon and we will all be pushed to get them
I have a good friend in the Infection control department and so i will speak to her... and then feedback in here of course.
I dont think that the vaccine is old enough for there to be enough evidence to say that it will not be detrimental to pg women...
I wont be getting it no way no how. Not enough testing and no way to know long term effects for me or the girls.
Thanks girls, sounds like you all agree with me.
Don't think I'll be getting it.
Sue x
i agree how can they say it wont be harmful to pg women if not tested on them? hrmm what are they testing it on???:
Don't think they are testing at all!!
It would be interesting to see what research has been done on the effects of other flu vaccines on pregnant women.
I will be discussing this with my GP on Wed... I am very reluctant to get any kind of vaccine during preg, but I do worry a lot as I work and live in a very high risk situation. We run a holiday park and have tourists from all over the world coming and going on a daily basis and come Christmas it is only going to get worse. We live on site so it's not as if it's only exposure for a few hours a day.
I really do not want to get it, but I am leaving it up to my GP to decide, I in no way want to take any risks, either way.
What a pickle!!!! :lol:
I'm not normally so adamant about anything but I will not be getting this... Maybe we should ask the filidamide (SP?) babies if they think untested drugs in pregnancy is a good idea... They wouldn't know of any posible side effects for years and then it's way too late and what do the authorities say... Ooops
there is a very interesting video on you tube. It is an interview with one of the leading immunology experts in the US stating why he will not be giving it to his family......real eye opener it was when someone in the front line is rejecting the vaccine.
In my opinion the risks of contracting side effects from the vaccine are far greater than the risk of contracting swine flu so i will not be getting it.
Hi,
I wont be getting it, I just keep thinking of that anti nausea one they got MANY years ago that caused problems....It just freaks me out too much to do that to bubs, but Ill get it as soon as she is out.....Id rather it only affect me and Id hate to pass it to her if I did get it postpartum...
Glad to see I am not the only person opposed to getting something that imo has been rushed through...How can they test it over time if there has been no time lapsing???
I'm not going to get it either, it is just too big of an unknown, the possible long term effects. It seems, though, that DH and I are the only ones to feel that way in the circles we travel. I work in long day care, and we going on a cruise in 2 weeks, and everyone from co-workers to family to Ob are all pushing me to get it. My GP is the only one who isn't pushy and just gave me tips on lessening the chances of infection etc.
To each their own....
melbel do you have a link for the you tube vid? I'd like to see it or can you remember what its called?
And I won't be getting the vax too many unknowns can't possibly have tested for long term effects when the vax is only weeks old!
Thanks melbel:)
I won't be getting it for the reasons you guys have mentioned.
Don't plan on being a guinea pig for anyone.
I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I know she is going to suggest it but my answer will be a big fat no.
am i the only person that finds it amusing that the myths debunking was paid for by the pharmaceutical company???
I did notice that too! I disregarded most of that article.:
i haven't even considered getting it and can't really grasp why people would when it doesn't protect against the next strain of swine flu?
Another good point Emma, if the strain does mutate and that's when it becomes more virilant then this vax won't protect against the new mutated one.
That's my understanding, but I guess I could be wrong?? Please correct me if I am anyone?
Definitely a no here.
The new swine flu vaccine contains thimerosal as a preservative, which is 50% mercury by weight. Mercury is a toxic heavy metal, and for this reason we are advised not to consume tuna and other types of fish whilst pregnant as the mercury content can harm the developing baby. Sure, it may be a small amount of mercury, but in my opinion there is no safe level of mercury - this substance simply should not enter the human blood stream at all.
Because of the controversy surrounding thimerosal's link to autism, it has been taken out of many childhood vaccines, so I cannot understand why on earth they would be using it as a preservative in this new vaccine and recommending it to pregnant women when the risks of mercury intake have been so well documented.The substance offers no benefit to the human body whatsoever, and is used primarily as a preservative to prolong the shelf life of the vaccine and hence prevent loss of profit for pharmaceutical companies.
I am a strong advocate for natural medicine and building the immune system via natural means, so my view is evidently biased against pharamcuetical companies and drugs in general, but it is my honest opinion that profit, rather than health is their main driving force. The vaccine has not been sufficiently tested (and in the trials that were conducted the adverse reactions were significant enough to make the mainstream press) therefore and I am not willing to offer my body or baby up as a guinea pig for this scaremongering experiment which is set to line the pockets of a few already very rich people.
But hey - each to their own......
Hear hear!!! I am also very suspicious when 'experts' can apparently tell us exactly when a virus will hit. Sounds more like their profit forecasts have told them when it should hit.:
From what I gather not many people have actually been tested to see if they actually have swine flu. Alot of people I know of have been told they have it purely from the symptoms, which are often exactly the same as normal flu (which yearly kills more people than swine flu has) It seems it is often diagnosis from assumption which is mightily profitable to the company that designed the swine flu vaccine as we can never be sure how many people actually are getting swine flu and not just seasonal flu. With no clear knowledge of the actual spread of swine flu you have the perfect environment for mass fear and panic and then tons of lovely money being made!!! I would love to know how many dodgy handshakes brought about this very profitable deal for the pharmaceutical companies.
I'm usually fairly cynical... but I had my H1N1 vaccination this morning. I feel that I made an educated choice. Though I agree, each to their own... if somebody feels intuitively bad about being vaccinated themselves then they should go with that. Personally I had a very persistent little voice in my head saying "get it!"... so I did. I have a chronic illness (Graves) and 2 kids in school which makes me a higher risk than the average person. With regard to the heavy metal mercury in the preservative: doesn't worry me but I'm not pregnant. Seeing the bigger picture the average person will absorb MUCH more heavy metal by driving their car in heavy traffic every day than via this vaccination. Do pregnant women stop driving in heavy traffic because of the unknown risks? Not usually. That is an incredibly toxic activity that most women choose to ignore... interesting. The number of pregnant women happy to drink Coke also astounds me. Are there conclusive tests as to what THAT does to your unborn baby?
I'm not trying to convince every pregnant women to have the H1N1 vaccination :) Just appealing for a bit of perspective. At the end of the day everyone is responsible for their own health and that of their child... and this does ultimately mean that everyone has to weigh the odds for themselves... keeping in mind the bigger picture.
Hi girls - I got the vaccine at the end of last week - on my doctors recommendation - I have rheumatoid arthiritis so apparently my immune system is a bit weaker than the usual person - only side effect I seem to have gotten was a slight sore throat but that has now gone. Am feeling movement still down there so I assume everything seems OK, but each to their own.
I just came on here to specifically ask about this!
I don't want to get it done at all - generally speaking I am pro-vaccination. But I don't believe in flu shots. Especially whilst pregnant. I even delayed DS's varicella vax until after my first trimester of pregnancy with DD, and I have had chicken pox, just to be safer.
DH is pushing me hard to get H1N1 vax, every time the ad comes on TV he says "see, you're in the higher risk category." I have fobbed him off by saying I'll get it done after the first trimester but I'll just keep my head down and hope he forgets about it.
Doesn't help that I made him get a whooping cough booster a few months ago along with me...it is mixed with tetanus and he stepped on a rusty nail the other week so he was very grateful he didn't have to go haring off to the GP for a tetanus booster. But I wasn't pregnant then!
Like Bathsheba says...I am trusting my gut on this one, and the gut says no.
we are giving it to all pregnant women,
we have seen no ill effects from this yet.
the literature (which si right infront of me)
pregnant wome: pregnant women should get the vaccine. pregnant women are more susceptible to complications of the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus than the general population, putting both mother and baby at risk. some women who have caught this disease have misscarried or have gone into premature labour or have died. vaccination will protect both mother and baby. influenza vaccines are not "live" and is not a risk to unborn children.
it is a catagory B2 medication.
and due to it being new there is inconclusive information about risks, but so far it has been more beneficial to have the vaccine than to risk not having it
I had swine flu in my first trimester/ 2nd trimester it last 6 weeks, i have a cord defect in my baby they only have a 2 vessel cord not 3 and this cant be ruled out as a side effect from having the swine flu. also i am now at a higher risk or preterm labour as that is a risk of 2 vessel cord and also swine flu. it still isnt out of my system completely even after having tami flu.