A fake +!!!

Ok i used pregnoisis and got a + (twice) to find out through BT that i wasnt in fact pg. Then to find out i had no hcg levels at all, so im not m/c either!

Has anyone had a fake + before? My Dr asssumes i waited until the following day before reading it but they both came up straight away!

So i plan not to use this brand next time, but what are the chances of getting another fake + on another test? :help:

hey naomi- i have gotten fake positives before too but on a few different brands. Unfortunately i have no advice expect when you get a positive, to get a bt for confirmation like you did!

i hope you never get a false one again :hug:

Aww Naomi, you poor thing getting a false positive :crying:

Are you sure it wasn't a chemical pregnancy? Would that give you a BFP on an HPT and a negative BT later on? It seems odd that you would get two BFPs... :confused:

I used Pregnosis and found it excellent. I got a BFN before implantation and two BFPs after implantation. So I found it very reliable.

I'm sorry again, hon :( I'm sure you'll get a true BFP very soon.

Love
Goldilocks
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Thanks for that Danni, it just sucks, we had both got our hopes up when i got the +, i wanted to tell the world and Rick wanted to wait til we did the BT (good thing we waited).
I guess next time i get a +, i wont tell him until i get the BT result.
I hated getting my hopes up to have them hammered back down again!

But why do fake + happen? i didnt think there was such things as a fake +, it still there i did it monday week ago!

Hey GoldieLocks, what do you mean a chemical pg? i thought it weird too, ot get 2 + and a neg BT

Naomi,

Here's a description of a chemical pregnancy:

A very early miscarriage is sometimes referred to as a 'chemical pregnancy'. This is when the pregnancy is confirmed by a very early pregnancy test (before the next period is due or around the time it is due), but 2 - 3 days later a period starts. A urine pregnancy test will often be 'faintly' positive, but a blood test (if one is done) normally shows low HCG levels, which don't increase over time. Without testing, most women are not aware they were briefly pregnant, because there are no obvious physical signs of pregnancy and nothing can be seen on ultrasound.

This is possibly what you had. Has AF arrived?

Love
Goldilocks
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thank you for that Goldilocks, yes AF arrived yesterday morning.
Im guessing there is no way to know if i was! Im hoping not and that it was just a long cycle

Well hon, if you got two BFPs before AF arrived I'd be fairly confident in saying that it was a chemical pregnancy. The fact that you got two BFPs and not just one seems to suggest that it was almost definitely a very early pregnancy.

Apparently they're very common...something like 30-40% of pregnancies happen like that and most of the time the woman doesn't even know because she didn't do an early HPT. AF arrives as per usual and she didn't even know she was pregnant!

I hope the next time you get a BFP, you have a sticky little bub! :hug:

Love
Goldilocks
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I didnt want it to be another m/c, im praying it wasnt. I cant handle the thought if it was. But these things happen and i have to move on with things, i cant stay in the frame of mind that i may/may not have just had a m/c AGAIN.
Im so going to now wait atleast 2 cycles before ttc again, just to make sure my body is back to normal and i've checked out whats going on with my body and stuff.
Thankyou Goldilocks - I appreciate your replies. congratulations on your pg wishing you all the best.

Hi Naomi :hug:
False positves are awful things.
I have had them using Discover and I think it may have been Precise.
One of my positives was positive for over a week also. I know I wasn't pregnant - I had a serum hcg on the same day only a few hours after the bfp. Did you get a BFP on your HPT the same day as you had your bloods taken?

It is possible that you conceived and implanted but things didn't work out. That does happen and it happens much more than we realise. The advent of early pregnancy testing has highlighted this.

However, if your hpt was positive and that day you had a serum hcg it is unlikely that you were pregnant and more likely that you had a bung test. Do you know if your doctor ordered a quantatative hcg or just a serum hcg?

Anyway, if a urine preg test was positive and a serum preg test was negative and both were done on the same day it is highly unlikely that you were pregnant.

I understand how you would be feeling. Why does this happen? I don't really understand how a preg test could be falsely positive. Had I not seen it myself I would doubt that it can happen but it does (rarely it's true), but it does... I had full refunds given to me by the company and they said they were having trouble with this very thing and there is much on the web about it.

I wish you a BFP this cycle.
:) hugs to you,

Thankyou Deb for that, my hpt still showing + its been a week today, i did a bt last tuesday at 3.30pm so a day after i did the hpt. The first one was quantative BHCG and the second one, done on friday was Se B-HCG (i dont know what the 2nd means, im gathering a serum test but dont know what that is)

Hi again Naomi,
Quantatative Hcg or QHCG is putting a figure on the level of hcg so it could be 7ml/u and that would say you were pregnant but only just. Usually a woman measures a level of about 50ml/u HCG around when she is due for AF. Qhcg will always give a measurement on the lab report so your doctor will be able to see what the levels were and show it to you. For example if you had a Qhcg of 4 it is possible that you had conceived and things didn't progress. This is commonly termed a chemical pregnancy. I don't like that term to me it sounds really cold. Basically it has been so named as the only way you would know you were pregnant is chemically - meaning through testing.

SeHcg or SHCG or BHCG are basically yes no answers. Yes it's positve or no it's negative. Most labs have a cut off of 5ml/u of hcg for pregnancy. So any lower and you are negative. Does that make sense?
So, from what I have read you have said I am understanding you did a hpt that was positive had a Qhcg that was also negative and then another hpt that was neg and then just a straight Se hcg.
I would feel really comfy in saying that it may have just been a bodgy test and that you should feel secure in the knowledge that you bhcg was negative.
Don't use that brand again! I won't touch them with a barge pole now. I can remember feeling devastated at the false results I got (I wrote about it in BB in December last year).
It is awful and I truly understand what you are going through. I hope this has helped.

Naomi hon, please accept my sincerest apologies if I upset you...that was not my intention at all. Deb is absolutely right - chemical pregnancy is such an awful term and I'm sorry I used it. I was just trying to be helpful and I hope I didn't come across as being cold or unfeeling :(

TTC is such a rollercoaster of emotions and I'm so sorry if I upset you in any way.

Huge hugs, hon :hugs:

Love
Goldilocks
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oh Goldilocks please dont feel like that, you didnt upset me (the thought did) but thats it, you have helped me, i never knew of chemical pg's before now, and you are being helpful and warm and sincere (as much as baby brain will let you LOL), you taught me a few things and showed you cared by letting me know. I appreciate that, please dont feel you have upset me, you havnt only the thought of it being true did, but im ok now!

ETA:
Deb - you have helped me, thankyou. I realise that it prob wasnt a chemical pg, i've been under alot of stress lately so it was prob that, the reason AF was late, along with a dodgy test! Thank you for everything

I'm so glad I didn't upset you, hon. I know how emotional the whole TTC thing can be and I couldn't live with myself if I'd upset you in any way.

LOL You're so right about baby brain...I can't believe how stupid and forgetful I can be these days! :rolleyes:

I :pray: that you will get a BFP very soon. And I'd take Deb's advice and not use Pregnosis again if you got a false +...I can only imagine how heart-breaking it is for that to happen.

Take care hon and I'll be following your progress very closely :hug:

Love
Goldi
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TTC is more emotional than having AF!!!! I kinda feel like i can rest when she is here!trust me im more willing to take it out on the people who are close to me rather then people who arnt (but please dont take this as a hint to stay away), so Rick is more likely to cop any damage that has happened throughout the day, but today i seem to be taking things with a pinch of salt and getting on with things, except im going to kill AF if she keeps stabbing me!! LOL

LOL @ baby brain you have only another 234 (approx) days left to go of it!

Yes i def wont be using Pregnosis again, the lady at the chemist reccomended it, guess i wont be taking her advice again either!! LOL

Now it's my turn. Goldilocks I certainly wasn't meaning YOU were cold just that the term is. I always think it kinda demeans the whole thing. Women who have confirmed a pregnancy to be told it was 'chemical' somehow sounds like we are saying it wasn't real iykwim??? I hope you understood that I wasn't aiming my comment at you but rather at the term.
Oh goodness I hope I haven't put my cyber foot in my cyber mouth???
hugs

Not at all, Deb...I just realised after you said that that I may have come across the wrong way and it certainly wasn't my intention to upset anyone, just trying to be helpful.

You are a wealth of knowledge as always and I always learn new and wonderful things from your posts! Thanks for being such a great support to everyone on BB :hug:

Naomi, it's very easy to take it out on those close to us. I am very lucky to have such a supportive DH and he was always wonderful when I was down about the whole TTC thing. You're so right about TTC being more emotional than having AF!

Oh, and I used about 6 completely different HPT's when I got my first BFP because I didn't believe it! LOL Nooooo, of course I'm not obsessed... :rolleyes: Just find one that works for you. I :pray: that your next BFP is a real one, hon.

Much love,
Goldi
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Deb - I completely understand what you mean about it not sounding real, When I told Rick last night about it he was like whats a chemical pg? is that when they cant find a reason for it not working out? its a bit harsh dont you think! Which i completely agree with, why would you (as a Dr) make someone feel like their pg wasnt real? Its so wrong.
But sadly it will still exist no matter how much we hate the terminology! Sucks hey?

Goldi - Rick is a great support too (most times) LOL Im glad you have someone who you can trust and reveal everything.
LOL @ 6 HPT's - im sure one day i'll find one that works for me, but im determined only that a bt will give me the correct result! after what had happened i dont 100% trust any HPT's anymore iykwim.

Naomi LOL,
I don't trust them any more either!
Let's hope we both have that BFP really really soon.

Dear Naomi

:hello: I am so sorry you got a false+ve:crying:

I know exactly what you are talking about in April i had the exact same thing with a Pregnosis test AF was 5 days late and i got a +ve then i went and had a blood test and that was negitive finally AF turned up 11 days late and usually 29days every month now i am back to 29days again do i dont have much faith in that brand either i used that brand for my first baby and it was correct that time so that was why i brought it. I didnt post anything as i felt really stupid after the doc rang and saying no your not preg i even showed my husband and he could see 2 lines to and they came up at like 1 min so i dont know what went on oh well betta go
:goodluck: TTC i hope you get a REAL BFP soon and for me to !!

Don't you feel sill Mel. I feel really angry when I read about this happening. Pregnosis is a shocker for it.

I hope you get a bFP really soon. Try using Crystal Clear, I haven't heard anything negative about them - I am sure someone will correct me if there are some bad stories but I haven't heard any.

I am really sorry this happened to you....

Yeah i felt completely stupid too, having the Dr say your not pg and i was like huh! I still have the hpt and it still show +, which is like 8 days since i tested! (well actually i just threw it out yesterday!Mine too came up within like 30sec - 1min and Rick could see it bright as day!
Im glad it happened to someone else with that brand iykwim, i dont feel like im making it up or it was just my test that buggered up iykwim
Too confusing for my sake! Dont feel stupid, it does happen and what were we supposed to do/feel? we have a test telling us we are pg and then having the Dr's tell us we arnt!
Wishing us all BFP (real ones LOL) in the real near future!

hi again i was glad to see what you had written so i know i am not the only one so good luck again
Next time will buy another brand may try Crystal Clear like Flowerchild said thatnk you for that buy the wat there are so many tests its hard to know which one to get

Yes there are lots of tests but many of them are manufactured by the same companies. Discover and Precise are the same brand and I have a feeling pregnosis is also... Not completely sure about pregnosis but I have a hunch. If you go into the pharmacy - pick a large pharmacy and have a look on the boxes and compare manufacturers. I only found out that Discover and Precise are the same brand as I got a disappearing positive with Discover and phoned the phone number on the box. They gave me their speel and said they would give a full refund (which they did). Then I went to the grocery store and purchased Precise and that did the same. I phoned the company and spoke to the same woman (WHAT THE?????) So, just be aware of that. I must say I have used Clearblue with my other babies and that was great. I don't recall seeing anything negative about them either.
There is a thread here in bB about my experience. I don't know how to do the link thing, sorry! One of the tests stayed positve for over a week.

HI everyone,
I have made an error in my posts. The test I used last year was First Response and Discover. I do believe however that the tests you mentioned may in fact be related! I went back to search for my post. It is in this section of BB and it is entitled First Response/ Discover ? disappearing positives. The date was 20/12/2005.I am sorry for the confusion.

LOL thats ok Deb we will forgive you!
Im pretty sure it wouldnt have mattered if they wernt related, for me just knowing it has happened to others made me feel normal again, and that atrue + comes from a BT not matter what a hpt says of any brand!

I know Butterfly Warrior has had a flase +ve too, it's just another reason I don't want to do HPTs any more! Even last month when I was over a week late I was a bit reticent to do one, but figured if I were going to go to the GP about it I'd need to.

Big hugs to you, Naomi, and I just wish that your BFP was in fact a psychic BFP and was just a month out for you. Best of luck for this cycle!

Thankyou Ryn, im hoping it was a month or 2 off too!! LOL
It gets pretty bad doesnt it, if it comes down to using or not using hpt! I dont even think i would believe the next one i get, i'll be holding off about going to the Dr's and then become a POAS addict on different brands (figure cant get that many fake + with different brands all at once!! LMAO) then depending on how many are + and how many are - will determine me going to the Dr, dont want to feeli like a git again, being told congratulations by my Dr to find out im not pg! (might use a different Dr!)

Hi Naomi:hello:
Goodluck for this month:goodluck:
I thought about going to a different doc as well but he is my daughters doc as well so i cant avoid him altogeather but will wait and see how i feel if at the end of the month and if AF stays away
mel