You have to see this, how amazing! I've never heard a child talk about BF before.
YouTube - Breastfeeding...at 8.
EDIT: do NOT read the comments, it will only make you want to scream / cry / lash out...
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You have to see this, how amazing! I've never heard a child talk about BF before.
YouTube - Breastfeeding...at 8.
EDIT: do NOT read the comments, it will only make you want to scream / cry / lash out...
Saw that on telly a few years ago
Yeah me too. On extraordinary breastfeeding I think it was.
Tried to watch it, but can't- sorry but I don't think it is necessary for an eight year old to still be breastfed- don't attack me :hide: ;)
This was actually posted a while ago on here - can't find it now though. I'm not sure where I sit with it, I just don't know. Even if you don't agree though, I don't think there's any need for some of the comments posted on the clip, some people are just downright nasty
I agree Delphmoon, so not necessary ;). I breastfed for 22 months and people would comment about my 3 yr old....( he was only 18 mths old at the time )
I saw it on Extraordinary Breastfeeding just after DD was born. Interesting. Each to their own hey?
Yep:
But what was interesting was hearing from the kids, something I've never heard before. I don't know to what extent they were trained in what to say or to be positive about bf etc, but it was still interesting.
Yeah, totally. I liked the fact that they had SUCH a positive experience about it. They loved it and drew pictures about how it made them feel. They seemed to be very well balanced and confident children. A credit to their parents really.
I started a thread about that video when I first joined BB as it was so interesting to me. I hadn't realised there were kids out there still BF'ing at that age.
Since having DD and breastfeeding (and still going)....I can now see why some kids continue to BF for many years. It's not just milk ;)
I agree that breastfeeding isn't just about milk- it is about comfort, reassurance and that 'specialness' between mum and baby.
I do think that by the age of 8 though, a child needs to be taught new ways of finding that comfort, that 'specialness' with mum. I don't think continuing to breastfeed an 8 year old to give comfort is the answer IYGWIM. :)
I agree. :clap::
I agree with Delphmoon.
On a side note, after 8 years wouldn't you just be gagging for a good glass of wine and a really spicy curry XD
I don't really see the problem - if they're all happy, then it's all good... It's kinda harsh to tell a young child they can't have a certain kind of comforting anymore, no? We all grow up and move on at our own pace. Some kids suck their thumbs well into primary school (I know a certain young lady who had to be weaned from her thumb at the cusp of high school).
I guess I just don't see the harm.
Well said.:
My sister had her "sooky" (a horrible rag that she used to suck) until she was 12.
I am also in the group that thinks 8 is just too old to be breastfed. An 8 year old does not need BF for any nutritional reasons and there are definitely other ways to be close to you children. Not to mention the teasing they would get from other children, whether it is right or not, children are nasty when someone is different. It is setting your children up to be ridiculed. Though I have a feeling those girls are home schooled. If they drew pictures of their mother's breasts at a regular school they would have been sent to the psychologist.
Helle, forget the wine and spicy curry, after 8 years I would just want to be able to put on a bra without my children getting mad at me.
Here is the link to the other thread on this:
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-a-138909.html
(hehe, just to save us all saying the same stuff again - but loads of interesting thoughts and insights) xxxxx
Why would you give them up to breast feed?:
I ate all manner of spicy and pungent food while I was breastfeeding and the odd glass of wine is pretty harmless.
well, they are just at the other end of the spectrum really aren't they. We have people that only breastfeed for one day, and others that feed for 8 years. You'll probably find that majority of children self wean around the age of 3, so 8 year olds would be few & far between.
The age of 8 does start to enter the realms of unusual for me... and I certainly wouldn't feed that long. But I don't really see any harm in it. The only harm that would come from it would be the treatment from other people.
ETA: I agree... I didn't give up my spicy foods at all! I did hold off alcohol.. but didn't really want it anyway. But yeah... it's easy to slip in a good glass of wine.. especially when the babies are older and feeding isn't as frequent.
I 100% agree. Afew years ago I wouldn't have. But some amazing women I have the privildge to know online have made me see alot of things differently in the past 5 years.:
I realy wanted to BF till 2 both times only made it till 7 weeks 1st time due to attachment problems and mastitis (3 times is no joke) 2nd time I got to 9 months but DD2s health ended up being more important and the intro of food meant she is coeliac and has severe lactose intolerance with it even to breast milk. But I think 8 years is a bit much
:dunno: It all seems like culturally we are a bit weirded out, but it's not my place to tell someone what their culture should be if it's not harming anyone. As for teasing, I guess I'd not be excluding a behaviour on the basis that my child might get teased.
In Mongolia we'd be the wierdos....
...I was just trying to lighten the mood of the same old debate *slinks out from the room*
I think it is highly unusual that both children didn't self wean until 5 (or 8 and still going) and I wonder if the mother encouraged continuation of BF?
Either way, what she does with her child is of no concern for me, I did however love hearing about it from the child's perspective. If it gives her comfort and isn't causing any long term issues, I see no harm in it.
Although I can see where you are coming from and I personally, know that I don't want to be BF a child of that age either, at the end of the day, who are we to judge that Mother and child?? It's none of our business really what others do if it doesn't impact on us directly, there is no harm. kwim?:
I think it's a bit hard to judge what is strange or weird when we as a culture tend to force or encourage very early weaning. What if we all bf'd freely and let our kids decide and our modern lifestyles didn't get in the way, and so on... maybe it wouldn't be at all unusual for kids to wean at 5+.
I just don't see how there can be a line in the sand where this side is ok, and this side is not, you know?
Can you imagine what some cultures say about those people who FF from a young age- maybe in Mongolia there are threads about how weird that is LOL
Well said Marcellus :clap: you always have a better way of saying things than I do!! :D:
I totally agree LOL ;):
I don't see any harm either I just personally don't see it as being necessary. If an 8 year old child is using bfing as a form of comfort (because it certainly wouldn't be for nutritional purposes) it kind of interferes with development don't you think- both social and emotional development? Thumb sucking, blankets, and other special items are weaned over time- just like breastfeeding.:
Yeah, that's true Delph. But those thumbs, blankies etc are necessary to the child, right? So how do you decide, that's it, you need to stop this now? I don't know the answer - maybe I'll have to figure it out one day :D
If the 8 year old is still breastfeeding for comfort purposes I think we have to think how it impacts on the child. Will the child be teased? will the child develop emotionally? Will the child still complete milestones in his/her early social/emotional development when the child is relying on the booby for comfort instead of looking to the outside world also eg talking, using and sharing expression, learning conflict managment skills, problem solving
Breastfeeding is a beautiful thing, a wonderful experience. An experience for mum and baby, but maybe not mum and pre teen. Just coming from a developmental perspective I think its an issue :) I think you would decide to stop something when it becomes an issue for your child..
It is very difficult because yes- culturally it is absolutly acceptable to breastfeed for long periods of time. It really does challenge ones beliefs when thinking about things such as this. I just asked DH what he thought about it and he said it sounds more like mums having a hard time letting go of her child...hmmm, interesting... :)
Just my own personal opinion though :)
I don't see how breastfeeding at 8 would stop a child from developing emotionally. Me eldest is 6 and in two years time I really think I will still want him to come to me for comfort and not have to deal with everything on his own. My almost 5 year old still has a blanket and sucks his thumb. But honestly he is the most confident wee man you have ever seen. Perhaps because he has his safe place to go to every night, he feels braver during the day :dunno: Perhaps this child is the same.
Personally I chose to stop breastfeeding at an earlier age. It was my choice, and if I had not stopped I think the twins would still be feeding now at almost 3. As a PP said, in many countries not breastfeeding until 5 or older would be the strange choice. If this child and mother are happy and content then fair play to them. The child will be unable to feed soon enough as their mouth changes (between 7 and 9 they lose the ability to suckle - natures intended weaning age perhaps?), I very much doubt this will be an issue in their teenage years.
I saw the whole doco. It was very interesting.
TBH, though, the 8 year old was a pretty "immature" type of 8 year old. She definatly projected as the baby of the family. What was interesting, was that her older sister (who self weaned at 5) was quite wistful about it and was saying she almost wished she still fed as she was jelous of the time that the mother and 8 year old had together.
You could tell in the doco though, that the 8 yr old took the p*ss as her mum had to be quite firm with her when she asked to feed, and had to state quite frimly, "no buggarising around, you drink and then youre done"
I dunno, I thought the 8 year old was playing the baby and I felt sorry for the big sis who seemed left out.
JMO
I agree that comfort toys like a blanket, dummy, toy whatever are acceptable- its a natural progression in relation to a child obtaining comfort. Most go from breast to something like that (toys, dummy etc). That is my whole point about continuing to breatsfeed til such a late age- how does a cild learn to seek comfort in other ways if the child sees the breast as the only form of comfort?:
As living thedream pointed out- this child has a lack of maturity- thats what I mean in relation to the impact on emotional and social development. What will the child do at school? will the child stop going out with friends because it time for a breastfed? :)
But why does breastfeeding have to come at the expense of other forms of comfort? Why is a blanket ok, but not a breast? They are both relying on something that they could be teased about if their friends knew.
Also, lets remember the child in question is 8. I would imagine both mother and child could miss a feed without it impacting negativly in any way on supply. I know this was true of my twins at 18 months. If feeding is only for comfort then it will happen when the child needs it which will be most likely at bedtime. I fail to see why this would stop the child socialising with others, or going to school if that is what the parents choose to do. One of my good friends still breastfeeds her 5yo, yet he manages to go to school and none of his friends know, or care, that he still gets milk from his mum. Why would they even ask?
I guess I just don't see why anyone would care if one child is a bit emotionally immature and still wants to breastfeed. All children grow up eventually, why rush this child if they are not ready?
You bring up some interesting points. I just feel 8 years old is too old. In this doco the girl isn't been fed at bedtime- its whenever...I just don't feel its in the best interest of the child. I love bfing my daughter but I won't be doing it when shes 8 I can assure you of that. She can have a mummy cuddle at night to soothe her if need be, or a teddy, but not a boob! Thats just my opinion :)
I've been wondering about this. Are blankies etc really progressions from teh breast/mummy or are they substitutes? if kids get to choose their own weaning time, do they still use these things?
Anyway, I don't think there's a right or wrong here - just whatever's right for a particular mother/child unit.
I don't know if I'd breastfeed for so long - haven't been there yet. But 5 years ago I would have been apalled at the idea of breastfeeding a 2 year old, and now I've done that :D
I don't see why breastfeeding should be replaced by something else. I didn't give my children blankets or toys to cart around constantly just because they wouldn't be on the boob anymore. I don't think having weened my children and stopping ds1 having a dummy by the time he was 2 makes me harsh. I don't think that an 8 yo should have a blankie either for that matter. Maybe I am harsh?:
Of course a 5 year old won't be asking other kids at school if they BF, it isn't something you expect kids that age to do. However, I would question why do the 5yo's friends do not know? Children talk... does he think it is something he should not mention at school?
Exactly right :):
Like Marcellus said, i believe dummies/blankies etc other forms of comfort besides boobs, are just substitutes. Nature intended boobs for sucking/comfort, not just for milk.
Delphmoon - I too can't see myself feeding an 8yr old child however I can completely understand this mother doing so. It makes perfect sense to me. If she is willing to give this to her child at the age of 8, I think it's wonderful.....there is absolutely no harm in it whatsoever....the child is still going to develop etc....
Some of the comments you make in here could be compared to as if someone said to you "isn't your child a bit too old for cuddles?" who are they to dictate or even comment on that to you?
And the comment your DH said....in regards to that, you can't FORCE a child to BF. That child is doing it because she wants to.