My Conception Plan-It May Sound Crazy But I'll Try Anything!

Hi,
I am on my 4th cycle of clomid and am devistated by the BFN. I spent this weekend in tears because I will only be on clomid for 2 more cycles and don't feel like the odds are high.

As the tears dry up I am starting to view my situation more positively. I feel like my last clomid cycles are a last Hurrah before attempting more invasive fertility treatments, so I am planning to do everything I physically can to create the right environment for conception. I am taking back a little control and being proactive. After hours on the net I have found some things that could help me. I'm willing to give it a go!

Over the next three cycles I will be taking Robitussin to thin my CM (which has thickened since using Clomid), using the Pre-seed lubricant (the only SF lubricant on the market that makes CM more SF), Taking Evening primrose oil to improve the quality of FM, Taking a special herbal blend from the 'Baby Maker', changing my diet even further so it's less acidic (no tomato, spicy food, coffee, tea...) and using ovulation prediction tests and the Maybe baby microscope to help time conception. I will also be attending yoga classes to minimise stress. I am thinking about using egg white but am concerned about salmonella poisoning.

I would love to hear from other TTC'ers who have advice on or experience with the above. I would love to hear success stories or hear about other things I could do to increase my chances of conception.

Also, if you would like to know more about anything I am trying out please ask. I am only too happy to share anything I know! If it doesn't work for me it may work for someone else!!!!

Thanks for reading!
Melissa =;

Melissa, sounds like you're doing everything you possibly can. Good luck :luck:

Goodluck with everything Sedony. I wish you the best of luck. You will find great support here the girls are wonderful

Love

Hi Melissa,

It sounds like you have really taken mental control over the whole TTC business, which is half the battle!

I have used egg whites twice, and on both occasions have concieved (first with my baby girl Olivia, who is nearly 1, and also I am pregnant again). It took us 3 years to convcieve initially. I too was a little concerned about an infection using egg whites, but no dramas either time!

Very best of luck...........

Hi Sedony,
Firstly Best of Luck.
We have been TTC for 2 years. I had a d & C and Laparoscopy in December which showed everything OK. The first few months after this procedure are supposed to increase your chances for TTC so I gave up chocolate and caffeine (as caffeine supposed to decrease chances of implantation) took evening primrose oil for CM and used egg white as a lubricant. And we are PG. however it is early days and I am not sure it is going to "stick" - but at least we got further than usual. We always use OPKs and I know that I ovulate regularly every month. It may have been the procedure that did the trick but I like to think the other stuff helped. I hope it does for you.
Come chat with us in the long term TTC thread if you want. There are about 12 of us in there, some doing IVF and some not, so you won't feel out of it.

Hi Sedony

Ive been TTC for a few years now and also went down the Clomid path to no avail. Also had the unfortunate experience of an IVF cancellation.

I think I am at the stage you are now, where I am SO ready to do this and am trying everything I can to ensure my body and DH's will be at their babymaking best! All things you have said, I am also doing. Am also giving the egg whites a go, and DH is taking Zinc supplements and Tribulus (increases sperm count and motility).

Its important that you do everything for your body, but DH needs to be at his optimum as well. ;)


Keen

Sedony
I've got a friend who started clomid this month, my only concern about Drs putting people on clomid (I've been on it too - at the start!) is that some fail to investigate the male. As in clomid may assist with the female infertility problems but to no avail if there is sperm problems!!

hey there, firstly, good luck to all of you TTC! Secondly, this is coming from a naieve mum who fell pregnant a little too easy the first time and has no plans of going there again, so its all a little confusing this TTC words and terms and meds etc. Just wondering, whats egg whites meant to do?? (Is that a really silly question???)

Apparently egg whites can be used as a lubricant during Bding and/or assists with the longevity of the sperm!

Melissa, just wanted to welcome you to bellybelly.

I'm Tegan mum to Lily, 8 weeks.

Goodluck with everything and i hope you get that long awaited BFP very soon!

Take care,

Hey Melissa,

Welcome to BellyBelly.

When I was on Clomid I found that it affected my cm too. To counteract it I increased my water intake, drank pink grapefruit juice & green tea, ate lots of carrots, and took vitamin E.

Wishing you all the best of luck. I hope you get that BFP soon!

Take care.
Angel.

Hi Melissa,

I believe very strongly on reducing stress (especially bad stress) in your life when TTC. I have had 6 miscarriages and 3 failed IVF cycles and all of them were attempted in a time of my life when I was under unbelievable bad stress at work (ie backstabbing, *****ing, undermining of my position, lies, etc etc). I underwent a bit of a clean out (ie laporoscopy, hysterscopy, etc) and then left work on extended leave (9 months long service leave at half pay). I fell pg again (7th time) and with the help of some medications, I am now 17 and a bit weeks. I had never gotten so far before.

So was it reducing stress? Well, I can't say for 100% that it was, but when I saw on the ultrasound how me coughing can affect the baby so much, I am sure that the stress hormones running around my body could not have been good.

I tired yoga as well and think that it is a positive first step.

Hayseed

Thank you all so much for your replies. Both my husband and I are overwhelmed by the amount of replies and well wishes we received. I am truely touched!!! :D

I will keep you all posted and would love to chat with you all again very soon! I wish all of you happiness and success and truely thank you for your support.

Best wishes
Melissa and Steven

Hi Sedony,

I am pretty much in the same boat as you - minus the clomid. But I am totally frustrated and defeated.

On my "to do list" this month, I only had Robitussin and "orgasm right after BDing". (I read that if you orgasm within 45 mins after you BD the spermies get "sucked up" to the uterus.)

I am desperate enough to try all the rest of the stuff you are going to try too. But if you don't mind, could you give me more detail, please.

- "Taking Evening primrose oil to improve the quality of FM"
Do you drink this? Swallow it? When do I take it? Before I ovulate?

- "Taking a special herbal blend from the 'Baby Maker'"
Can you actaully ask for such a herb in the store?

- "changing my diet even further so it's less acidic (no tomato, spicy food, coffee, tea...) "
I did not know that coffee can prevent egg implantation. I will definitely cut down on that too . Do you know what we should eat more of?

:pdust: :bdust: to us all... :D

Hi Maya
Happy to give you more info.

Herbs: I got them from Sharkeys healing centre. I also bought a book called Natural conception from her and that gave me the info re: diet, coffee etc. it cost $22 and well worth the read.

Evening Primrose Oil I take in capsules. I just bought them from Safeway. I thake 3 a day with meals.

If you have any other qustions please ask me as I am only too heppy to help.

Baby dust to you
Melissa

Hi Melissa,

I've just edited out the link in your post as links to other sites that don't support BB aren't permitted. For more information regarding this guideline click HERE.

I hope you understand where we're coming from.

Thanks :)

Angel.

Hi Melissa!

Thank you for the advice :D Too bad about the link. I did not know that we cannot post links "outside" of BB either until recently.

"Taking a special herbal blend from the 'Baby Maker'"
Is it from the book you recommended? I will buy it next month. That way, I will have "something to hope for" if I get AF end of this cycle; IYKWIM ;)

Do your friends and families know about your intention to concieve? If so, do you get - " Oh, just dun think about it and it will happen! " alot? I am getting tired of it. I do not know how I can do that ! The moment I wake up, I think about TTC. It's like it's on my mind 24/7. How can I NOT THINK ABOUT IT? And all my neighbours are all pg or have given birth (it's a new community, so all young couples around me) which really makes it even harder to not care about it. Sigh. Maybe I should really take some time off, like Hayseed, work and start yoga classes or something.

Good luck to you, Melissa!

Hi Maya,

Sorry to about the link. If you want to find out about the herbs do a google on Sharkeys Healing Centre (I don't think mentioning the name is a link - sorry if it is!!!!) The lady who wrote the book, Ruth Sharkey, makes the herbs. I saw the book she wrote on ebay going cheeply if that's a help! Ruth Sharkey is well known. She has been on A Current Affair I think. My friend saw the program and told me about it.

Yeh, everyone says "Don't think about it" I just say "And how do you recommend I do that?" Strangely no one can tell me the answer to that. I find that if I keep meyself busy I go for long periods throughout the day where it isn't tha main focus but like you it is always somewhere in my mind. I am a teacher so I am always around kids so I guess it is hard for it not to aleways be in the back of my mind. I find that if I am proactive, doing all I can to increase my chances of conception that I am more positive but sometimes it is hards to keep up the enthusiasm. I am always looking for new information and different things to do to increase my chances.

Hope you don't need the baby doctor and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Melissa

Hi Melissa!

I have been trying a very hard to distract myself from this TTC process. So, I have been staying away from BB as well.

My neighbhour tried for 16 months and on the 17th month, she "gave up" -sure enough she got pg that month. Does it really matter, I wonder? Sigh. Anyway, I finally got my appointment for pelvis ultrasound. Yay! I am hoping that I will get referred to a Gyn after this.

How are you doing? Have you been following all that you said you were going to do? I know about that book. In fact, there was a whole thread on that book. But I have not read it yet.

Tell me how your month is going. CD and symptoms, if any etc. :bdust: :pdust:

Hi Maya,

That is wonderful news for your neighbour. I wish I could give up trying. How did she do it? How did she give up? My friend from work told me a similar story about her sister. I wish I could give up cause it sounds like that could be the trick!!!! (If only it were that simple)

This TTC thing can sure be very consuming. I have been trying everything as I said but I am only taking the herbs, folic acid and 1/2 an asprin a day right now.

I went to the gyn last Monday, 5dpo, and as a result I am booked in for a laporoscopy on Thurday which will be the first day of my new cycle. I couldn't sleep last night because I kept thinking that I really should postpone it as I could be pregnant so I went to get a blood test today to rule it out. I'll get the results Monday but I am pretty sure it's negative as I don't feel pregnant. It's 10dpo and I have very tender, full bb's, pain in my lower left abdomin and lower back, I am very tired and seem to be hungrier than usual and I am a bit sensitive to smells but to be honest I feel like I have these symptoms every month so I am not reading them as pregnancy symptoms. I guess I think that when it does happen I will know right away or something because, (I don't know where I have got this crazy idea from) the symptoms will be undeniable or so obvious that there will be no other explanation for them and I'll just feel pregnant.

I hope all goes well with your pelvic ultrasound. Keep me posted. I had an ultrasound to check out my fallopian tubes about 2 years ago. it's pretty painless. Have you had an ultrsound before?

Speak to you soon
Melissa

Hi Melissa!

Yeah, I have had an ultra-sound before too. But it was not for infertility. I do remember it was painless; In fact it was fun seeing my internal organs ;) I will probably call my Doc about 1 weeks after the ultra-sound and see what she advises next. I do hope she will send me for laporoscopy as well. And DH for sperm count etc.

I do not know how they "give up" either. They broke their happy news to DH and I was not there. If not, I would have defintely enquired about the secret to "giving up". If I run into her, I will ask her and delightfully share them secrets.

Let me know about the blood test, alright? I really hope you will get good news and not have to bother going thru laporoscopy.

:bdust: :pdust:

Melissa! I meant to ask you where you bought "Preseed". I cannot find it in any of the Drugstores here. Did you buy it online too?

Hi Maya,

I bought preseed from an online company called 'Downunder Home Pregnancy and Ovulation tests'. I suggest doing an internet search, if you haven't already, and see what comes up. 'Downunder HPOT' might ship overseas. I know it is sold in America if that helps.

AF came three days earlier than expected. It actually arrived just after I called the doctors for the blood test results. I feel a lot happier about the lap knowing that I am not pregnant.

I go in tomorrow at 8am and I should be home by 1pm all being well. I am looking forward to the time off work - 7 days in total. I just hope that if they find something wrong it's easily fixed!!!!! I'll keep you posted (give you all the gory details!!!!)

Good luck with the ultrasound results.

Speak to you soon
Melissa

Hi Melissa!!

This portion of the forum is pretty "dead", dun you agree? Anyway, I am glad that AF arrived; one of the rare moments ;) I would have been anxious too if AF had not arrived before the lap. What a bonus that it arrived 3 days early.

So did the blood tests reveal anything at all? I hear that after they unblock the tubes, the chances of getting pg is quite high. Good LucK! I am just waiting for my turn. Hopefully next month.

Wow, I did not know it took so long to do a lap. It does make sense come to think of it. But what is this about taking 7 days off? I mean I am glad you are taking a week off :D but is that because you are not well after?? If so, what did you tell your colleagues? :o

Anyway, I hope everything will turn out FINE :D :pdust: :bdust:

Hey Melissa and Maya

Hope you guys are both going along well. If you are interested in the link to Downunder it can be found in the BB Products & Service Directory on BB, and the direct link is http://www.downunderhptopk.biz/

Also here is the website address for the woman who has now taken over for Ruth Sharkey (now that she is retired) and has opened her own clinic(after having been trained by Ruth) http://www.fertilemindandbody.com.au

Hope it helps!


And please, do feel free to join with so many other of us TTCers in the Monthly thread


Keen

Thank you, KeenAs for the links :D

I will surely pop into the monthly thread :D

Thank you,

hope to see you there, Maya!


Keen