Late Ovulation on Clomid

Hi everyone,
I am hoping someone may have some personal experience with this???

Briefly I took clomid for the first time this month (50mgs from cd2-cd6). I was prescribed this for a sustained shortened LP and lowered prog. showed a not so fab ovulations.

Anyway as you all would know ovulation is expected 5-10 days after the last clomid dose. I did my opk's from cd9. From cd17 I began to get second lines with a true positive on cd 20. Progesterone levels at cd21 indicated ovulation had not or had just occured which is congruent with my opk's. This has made my ovulation later than usual.

Now, I know that in a very few women clomid can increase their follicular phase as well as their luteal phase and it would seem I am one of them.

Has anyone else had this experience? I will have another prog level done tomorrow or Tuesday to confirm ovulation. I will meet with my gynae next week and we will decide on weather to up the dose to 100mgs. I would so very much appreciate others experiences. I am feeling a bit like a freak! I am concerned the late ovulation will mean poor egg quality/endometrial lining quality.

Thank you so much!

Sorry Deb - I can't help. My ovulation occurs around CD 14-16 after clomid (but it did that before clomid too). I am on 100mg though. It will be interesting to see what happens to your LP too now that you know when you ovulated.

Just a question - when is your gynae going to fulfill his end of the bet ;)

Thanks Michelle, Yeah I will be interested too. I am just hoping I don't get to find out and I am pregnant! I am not feeling too hopeful though because of the late ovulation. My gynae says that it would appear the clomid has had affect on my cycle given the very late ovulation (for me) so that may mean that it will have increased my LP.

Why did you go straight to 100mgs?

Yeah, I think he might defer the bet!!!! Funny about that!
Thanks again for your input

I started on 50mg and then progressed to 100mg for the 3rd and 4th rounds prior to Caitlyn (I was naughty and self prescribed an increased dose after doing some reading). The literature seemed to hint at a higher conception rate at 100mg (for my reasons specifically). It may not be the case for everyone. I had a progesterone level done on Firday to check if adequate ovulation is occurring. My gynae was happy with the increase anyway.

I am hoping you will have such an extended LP that you won't need another follicular stage for at least 10 months!!!

P.S. I am not surprised your doc will defer his part of the bargain. What a sight!!

You are not a freak LOL!! My Cycles are normally between 35 -50 days, and clomid made absolutely no difference. So in answer to your question...I still ovulated around day 25 when i was on it.

Thanks Elly!
That's interesting. Like most things I guess everyone's body reacts differently.
So, did you ovulate on cd25 when you conceived your son?
Many thanks Elly :hug:

I took Clomid days 5-9 100mg, ( in combinatin with 1500mg Metformin) and ovulated day 20-22. The information brochure that came with Clomid says you ovutate 5-6 days after finishing Clomid, but for me that wasnt the case. My first cycle of Clomid I had a progesterone of 38, and second cycle my progesterone was only 8. Anyway, now not taking Clomid- not becasue it didnt work-for other reasons, so that is all I can add for now.

Thanks for that Elly.:)

Hi Flowerchild

I am in a similar situation to you - constant short LP (5 consecutive cycles since finishing b/f). My FS suggested Clomid or FSH injections to improve the quality of O. But I'm a bit hesistant to try either just yet cause I'm still hoping to figure out why it's happening. He also said it might correct itself in the long term and I'd love to conceive "naturally" again. :pray:

Anyway, I was wondering if you can tell me how it has been for you so far. Are you having constant monitoring with this cycle? And what about side effects.

I know alot of women here are on Clomid but not many purely because of short LP. So maybe you can help me m,ake a decision about its effectiveness.

Many thanks. :)

Hi AussieChick,
I really experienced minimal side effects. I did get a bit grumpy (I will deny it if asked!) and I did get a few hot flushes but reallyfor me it was a non event.

I got pregnant even though I ovulated late and today I am 5 weeks. So, I love the clomid!

I believe it did it's job for me and that was to effectively stimulate my hormones and have a nice prog. rise to enable the pregnancy to implant.

I hope this helps. :hug:

Congrats Flowerchild, that's fantastic news!!!

Was this your first round of clomid? What days did you take it?

Hope this is a sticky one for you!

Yes, I hit the jackpot first go - however I did ovulate on the clomid later than usual (which is an abberation), however it was effective at increasing my prog.levels (they were 60 at 7 dpo).
I took 50mgs (lowest dose) of clomid from cd2-cd6. I received a positive opk on cd20 so we are assuming I ovulated on cd21.

I hope this helps! :hug:

That's great news Flowerchild!

I could have started clomid (50mg) or FSH this current cycle, but cause I felt unsure I hesitated and left it too late - now I'm kinda kicking myself. :doh:

Did you have any misgivings about should I, shouldn't I? I guess my main thing is I want to know what's the cause of my poor quality O leading to LPD and if I can rectify it myself or if it will correct itself if I wait. But then I'm thinking all it could take is a few rounds of clomid and I might be pregnant!It's not like being diagnosed with PCOS or something else and knowing it's inevitable to take medication to help you fall pregant. I'm just so confused, but your story makes me feel there's hope. I'm only CD 9 of a 31/32day cycle so i guess I've got some time to think about it.

Best of luck for an uneventful 8 months

Yes, I did have a few misgivings - however, I knew I just wanted to get on with it and as my clock was tocking loudly I decided to go for it.
You will make a decison that is right for you.
GALLONS OF :fertilise: vibes to you.... :hug;

Hi All,

I am new to this forum, and it is really great. This is my first cycle on Clomid for short LP and low progesterone - 18. I took 25mg from Cd 5-9, but unfortunately yesterday CD22 I started spotting and today it is heavier. I will be ringing my specialist for my CD21 progesterone levels tomorrow, but I pretty much know they must be low. Does anyone know why I would be spotting and have possible AF so early being on Clomid? I would understand if I wasn't on it, as this is normal for me since my m/c in Feb, but the reason I am on Clomid doesn't seem to be working.

thanks for any help

Hi Flower child,

I was also under the impression that on clomid (i was on CD3-7) i would ovulate 5-6 days after the last pill, however just like you i didnt either, i was all down thinking this cycle didnt work and then out of the blue i did an OV test and WALLAH! That was on CD17 so in answer to your question yes i have had a similar experience with clomid, and am currently at 9DPO - fingers crossed for meeeeeee

Hi All

Stillhoping - it will be interesting to see what your Progesterone level is - might be an implantation bleed. I have heard it can be as heavy as a normal period in some cases. Otherwise, I'm guessing you know exactly when you ovulated, having BT's and all??? Maybe your FS will decide to up your dosage. Even though I haven't taken it yet, my FS started me on 50mg. Could be it wasn't enough to get that elusive "good" ovulation happening.

12bliss - best of luck, when are you testing? Are you going in for more BT's before a PG test? Is this your first cycle? Sorry, for the all Q's - still contemplating whether to start next cycle or not.

Hope all is going well with your PG Flowerchild - Baby dust to all! :bluedust:

Hi Aussie Chik,

I really don't know when I ovulated. My doc said it would be on Cd14 or 15, but he said the OPK don't work when you are on Clomid, so don't bother using them.... I did temperature charting but my temp rise was masive after taking the 5 days of Clomid and stayed high like after ovulation. I will be asking my doc tomorrow what that means.
I think I will be put on 50mg for the next cyle. I only hope that if this is AF that it comes on quickly, not like last time with 9 days of spotting before full AF, that is really draining as you still give yourself hope that it might be implantation bleeding. The highs and lows are a real killer.

Why haven't you started it yet?

Hi Stillhoping,

Seems we are having the exact same problem - low progesterone (mine was 20.9) and a short LP, mine has been since lap surgery on my ovary in May (I also had a missed m/c in March but following this everything was fine until my lap).

I am on my first cycle of clomid and am on 25mg too. I'm pretty sure that this dose isn't going to do much for me either (just a gut feeling plus I have had NO side effects whatsoever, wouldn't even know I was taking it). The only thing I have noticed is that AF lasted 5/6 days this cycle (I took clomid cd3-7), the longest AF i've had since my surgery, they've generally only been 2 or 3 days :eek: . Am not putting too much weight in that though, probably just a fluke.

Your spotting may be caused by your low progesterone levels (if clomid hasn't worked to raise your levels this cycle). Since my surgery I have heavy spotting from about 7/10dpo till af 'formally' arrives (sooooooo annoying) and I've read this is a classic symptom of low prog. I am at least hoping the pre-AF spotting disappears for me this cycle.

I hope that if you didn't get a bfp this cycle, then at least clomid has done something to improve your cycle! Am interested in hearing what your dr has to say and what your prog. level was.

I am expecting to ovulate around cd14/15 (as i have the last few cycles) but I'm still using OPK's. I've never heard that they "don't work" on clomid??? I know that Deb (Flowerchild) used them on her clomid cycle and have heard of other gynaes recommending them to pinpoint ovulation (my gynae said it was up to me if i wanted to or not).

Good luck!!

Hi Willow2,

I also had a missed miscarriage in Feb at 10 weeks and it took 2.5 weeks to pass the sac using misoprostol. I am still wondering if I made the right decision going with miso. instead of a d&c and now that I am spotting more than before m/c I think I may have made the wrong decision. I ovulate fine but at about Cd17 and then spot on about Cd22 so I am on it because of the short LP and obviously low prog. Have you or anyone ever used progesterone cream to increase prog. I am trying to fine more out about it. It has been 19 months and I am wanting to try eveything possible. I was on herbs from a naturopath for 1 year and tried accupuncture for 3 months, so I feel I have tried all the natural options.

I pretty much feel that if i do have AF that Clomid has done absolutely nothing for me. I too would be happy if the pre-Af spotting stopped and I had a 'normal' length cycle. i also had no side effects on Clomid, but am a bit anxious about uping the does, but may just have to.

I'll let you know tomorrow if i get onto my doc as to my results and what he tellsme to do next cycle.

Goodluck to you too and everyone else out there hoping and dreaming!!!

Stillhoping,

I wouldn't beat yourself up about not having a d&c, I really doubt this would have made a difference. I did have one after my m/c as I was almost 12 weeks and it's what the gynae team at the hospital recommended. I also felt I would cope much better emotionally having a d&c rather than waiting to miscarry 'naturally'.

Although I know I had to have my surgery, I find myself sometimes wishing I hadn't because then I wouldn't be in this mess!! My surgery was supposed to fix me, not mess me up even more!

What makes you anxious about upping your dose? Is it the side effects? I think if that's what you decide, you'll be fine, most people start off on 50mg, that is the 'standard' dose so I think we'd just be catching up. I'm pretty sure this is what the next step will be for me.

I remember reading a post by Deb (flowerchild) in the thread 'Clomid for LPD' (just do a search if you want to find it) where I think she said that research had indicated progesterone only treatments are not very successful in correcting these sorts of problems?? She would be able to explain this much better than I, she knows her stuff ;)

:crossfingers: that AF doesn't rear her ugly head and that your prog. levels are great! Let us know how you go.

Bliss, interesting to see another 'aberration to the norm". I am not sure why he would have said opk's won't work on clomid. If you use opk's within 3 days of your last tab you can get a false result. However, if you got a positive opk on cd17 than I would bet my bottom dollar that you will ovulate on cd17,18ish.

It is possible that this has been some type of implantation bleed (on what cday was the spotting???). Otherwise I would think you will need a higher dose to get things going.
Wishing you lots of luck and sticky happy conception vibes!!!! :hug:

Oops I didn't see that there were two pages!
Yep I haven't seen much to support progesterone only to support the Luteal phase - have a flick through our little corner Clomid for Short Luteal Phase and join us all! There was some chat in there about it.
I am sorry Willow I haven't been around - I have been debilitatingly exhausted. I have only been just getting it together for the basics! Nausea has been around since Sat and soooo tired. Wednesday is my U/s. Nervous and excited but workinghard to stay positive.
I will ocme in and chat in oru corner tomorrow!
Good luck Bliss and Still Hoping :hug:

Hi All

Stillhoping - We haven't decided to try Clomid as yet because the day we saw the FS was CD5 for me and we pretty much had to make a decision then and there - the thing is my FS actually was pushing for FSH injections so we left we a prescription for both and feeling a little confused. We wanted to do some more research on both methods to see which one we would start on. Plus, as my only problem at the moment seems to be poor ovulation resulting in a short Luteal phase, and I have previously conceived the FS felt that with time it might self correct. I am secretly hoping this might happen soon but we have decided to give it a few more cycles and start Clomid in Nov-Dec if it hasn't rectified itself.

Flowerchild - can you please provide the link for the short luteal phase corner - I didn't know it existed!!! Best of Luck for Wednesday.

It is in the TTCAML forum and there are 2 threads on Clomid for LPD. Hope that helps. :)

Hi Everyone,

Deb, no need to apologise at all, you need to get your rest, you've got precious cargo on board!! Can't wait to hear how you go on Wednesday, we'll all be thinking of you :hug:

OK, never done this before but will attempt to put the links in :rolleyes:

Clomid for LPD thread #1 here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ad.php?t=15384

Clomid for LPD thread #2 here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ad.php?t=19319

Just tested it and looks like it works! :crossfingers:

Hi all,

Af here today - sigh!!! progesterone was 25 - doc said that was good, but I think it is still too low.He said spotting and AF so early is a mystery.....great!! Couldn't ask too many questions as I was at work and on my mobile..... He has upped the dose of Clomid to 50mg on Days 5-9, and we will see how that goes. I woud have been happy with a 28 day cycle this month, but I couldn't even get that. It is really starting to get me down my cycles - frustrating.

I got 8 on footy tipping though!!!!!! Came second.

Hi Aussie Chik,

First cycle for me i took it on CD3-7 not sure i tested yesterday (12DPO) BFN but i dont have any PMS symptoms yet (i did on and off for a week) so im so not sure about this cycle. I have decided not to test again until CD16 so we dont waste any more money on them little bits of plastic (they drive me nuts).

Best of Luck 12bliss! Hope you get a BFP soon!

hi. i just finished my 4th round of clomid.. 50mg for the first 2 months then 100mg for the remaining. last month i o'd at day 20 and this month at day 28. clomid on days 5-9.

opk's work fine with clomid just wait for at least two full days after last dose of clomid before returning to OPK.
:ttc:

good luck to all ttc.