Chemists 3 reasons for not immunising

Just sharing an interesting article I just read :)

Chemists reasons for not immunising

And I have a question. Health nurse just called. I've missed DD3's 18 month check up by over a year. I'm not fussed, I know she's fine. But of course that means I missed her chicken pox vax. I have chosen not to have this vax for any of my kids & I have had comments (My kids are fully immunised for everything else!)

Anyway, surprise surprise, the HN didn't argue! But she said she might need me to sign a CO form? Pretty sure since it's not on the register I shouldn't need to sign?

Chickenpox is on the official schedule, so yes you may have to sign he form.

Oh is it? I didn't think it was yet. Did they change that recently, or am I just way out of touch?
I just need to know if I'll need to sign for just DD, or DS as well.

I think it has been on for a few years.

Will have to find out. Thanks.

I believe as of July they are combining the chicken pox with the MMR vaccine as well :/

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I believe as of July they are combining the chicken pox with the MMR vaccine as well :/

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MACH nurse told me this a few weeks back.

Yeah, it will be the MMRV. Clover, they put it on the schedule years ago - I remember it was optional for DS1 and DD1, but DD2 had to have it as per her schedule and she's nearly 9

Yeah it was optional for DD1, DD2 had chicken pox at 6 months, so had natural immunity & it never came up.
I never had a problem not getting it done for DS. I just had the health nurse mention health risks & that was it. CO forms etc have never come up. He's been enrolled at day care & school with this not being an issue.

I also heard they've added the cervical cancer vaccine to the 12 yo MMR... I don't think my girls will be getting that one, even though I personally feel they should have the Rubella update. Anyone else feel the same way? (Who would normally vaccinate?)

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I also heard they've added the cervical cancer vaccine to the 12 yo MMR... I don't think my girls will be getting that one, even though I personally feel they should have the Rubella update. Anyone else feel the same way? (Who would normally vaccinate?)

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Is that as a combined vax?

Sure is.

No, it's not combined, they are separate but it does run under the same school vaccination program. They do it for year 7 students. DS1 had four consent forms - DTp, Varicella, HPV (Cervical cancer vaccine) and Hep B. There is no MMR at that age but they will give girls a booster at 15. They are four separate vaccinations. We declined them for DS. But he didn't need the varicella one anyway because he's already had that one. IN a few years I don't think they will do the varicella because by then, all children will have had it as part of their schedule anyway. Most kids of his age group wouldn't have had it because it was still voluntary to get it.

I have just attended our local school as an immunisation nurse. We gave Varilix, HPV and boostrix. 3 separate sites for the kids that's parents consented. The term before we gave the 1st dose of HPV and Hep B. Next term the kids will have the 2nd dose of Hep B (even those who had 4 as babies) and the final dose of HPV.
I didn't consent to Varilix for my DD who is in year 7 but I did for the others. I would consent to myself and children personally to HPV before Boostrix but that's just me. There is such a huge rate of young girls with HPV which can lead to cervical cancer even in young women prior to finishing their families. I'd also consent to having my son vaccinated against HPV. A huge percentage of women go on to have cone biopsies of their cervix which can cause problems conceiving and birthing so for me vaccinating against HPV is important but I respect others choices as to not consenting to it.

The main reason I'm really unsure about it Mildez, is because I heard of so, so many stories of severe side affects. SIL had it done in high school & more than half her grade of over 100 kids had some kind of side affect. Including a couple that had trouble with feeling in their legs.

I think I'll be doing some research on these ones & go from there. There's plenty of debate about baby vaccines & pro's & con's, but I don't know all that much about older kids shots.

Kind of bugs me that they call it a cervical cancer vaccine. It is not a cervical cancer vaccine, I think this is really misleading when it is an hpv vaccine. Sure, it should decrease rates if cervical cancer caused by hpv but hpv is A contributing factor, not THE ONLY contributing factor that determines whether or not a woman will develop cervical cancer.
Will stop my little rant now.

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Kind of bugs me that they call it a cervical cancer vaccine. It is not a cervical cancer vaccine, I think this is really misleading when it is an hpv vaccine. Sure, it should decrease rates if cervical cancer caused by hpv but hpv is A contributing factor, not THE ONLY contributing factor that determines whether or not a woman will develop cervical cancer.
Will stop my little rant now.

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Could not agree with you more. It is something that has always bugged me too. Yet I use the term in general conversation because that's what people associate it with - if you just said HPV many people wouldn't know what vaccine you were referring to. It's also one of the reasons why I will never consent to it.

We have been doing delayed vaccines for DD , we had no intention of getting the chicken pox vaccine but now it looks like we won't have a choice , with them adding it to MMR ..

In regards to the HPV , I had one dose when it came out and I was told it was the cervical cancer vaccine . At the time I didn't know any better , I never went back for the next two doses as I started to look not it and at the time they had not done enough research on the drug and I didn't feel comfortable ..

That's a big thing for me with the new vaccines, not enough research or testing. Especially with the swine flu one. It was so rushed there was no way I was risking it.

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I believe as of July they are combining the chicken pox with the MMR vaccine as well :/

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Ahh, this really annoys me. I hope the separate MMR will still be available. Parents deserve a choice and I would think this would put me off getting it altogether if they add yet another one to it that I don't want.

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Ahh, this really annoys me. I hope the separate MMR will still be available. Parents deserve a choice and I would think this would put me off getting it altogether if they add yet another one to it that I don't want.

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Yes exactly !!! I have no idea if it will be available separate still , as we were delaying the MMR but didn't want to get chicken pox , so now we may not have a choice !

The HPV really worries me! I would not have it myself or give it to any of my kids. Too many questions unanswered for me and too many adverse reactions as well. It's marketing is dodgy as too like a few of you have mentioned which adds to my distrust of it. If you have whooping cough they won't vax you for it. But so many people are born with HPV passed from mum at birth yet they don't test you for it before giving the vax. I asked two doctors about This and if there could be problems getting it if you already had the virus. They couldn't tell me. One speculated it would just be pointless for that strain.If the doctors providing it can't answer my questions I don't want it. This is one issue I have with it. I think it was too rushed out too and don't like the idea of being a guinea pig, or my kids. There are other ways to protect against HPV I'm really not comfortable with this vax at all.

I am assuming that if they want to combine the MMR and Varilrix, then they are looking to phase out both of those and just have the one MMRV vaccine.