TTC and Thrush

Hi All
I am new to this forum and have been off the pill since July 2003 after being on it for 11 years.
I am finding however that during my fertile period that I am getting mild cases of thrush :evil: Besides the fact that it can make sex uncomfortable, it probably doesn't provide the most fantastic environment for sperm survival and conception! I am about to enter the fertile period at the moment therefore eating natural yoghurt like it is going out of fashion but am just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem. I have heard that thrush is common during pregnancy due to fluctuating hormone levels so I guess the same is happening here.
Cheers
Dahlia

Dahlia,

An even better option to eating yoghurt is buying Acidophilus (pronounced acid-off-ilus) capsules or powder from your pharmacy . They are the "good" live bacteria. It might be worth your while taking that regularly, as it contains many. many times more potency than in yoghurt or the drinks on the market.

Thrush is when you get an overgrowth of bacteria in your bowel - because us women aren't designed that well and our bits are really close together compared to men, it easily spreads. Other common reasons you can get thrush are poor diet etc. so don't feel embarassed about going to get it! By taking acidophilus you can help prevent it from happening.

It's usually found in the fridge as it is live bacteria so you may need to ask for it.

Hi Dahlia,

My doc also told me that when you BD a lot you should urinate before and after BDing to prevent thrush and UTI's. 8-[

Yep the urinating thing works! But you want to know something funny ;) There is a saying out there that if "it" is a bit on the bigger side...then you tend to get more thrush, and also make sure that he doesn't have thrush. As once he gets it he will keep giving it to you especially if he isn't circ'd (as its more common for uncirc'd guys to have it and have no symptoms and thus pass it on).

Goodluck!

*hugs*
Cailin

Thanks everyone. I have had thrush before when I was on the pill. It is just that it has become more frequent :evil: since I have come off the pill which is most annoying!
I am sure hubby will like to think that it is because of him that it is becoming more frequent O:)
I might see how this cycle goes and head down to the chemist for some tablets should it flare again.
Cheers and thanks for the comments
Tara

P.S. Is there a spot in the forum where all these acronyms are defined!!! Ta

NP's Dahlia ;) As for the acronyms...there is a forum dedicated to it right here

Goodluck with those tablets!

*hugs*
Cailin

hello,
i've had thrush lots and lots of times in both "down there" and in my mouth, the mouth one is extremly painfull..

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Cailin:
also make sure that he doesn't have thrush. As once he gets it he will keep giving it to you especially if he isn't circ'd (as its more common for uncirc'd guys to have it and have no symptoms and thus pass it on).

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mm i think thats how i kept getting it as joshuas father wasnt circ'd (probly a detail u didnt want to know) and i kept getting it again and again and again! :evil:

Moving to General Conception Discussion :)

I used to get thrush evey month about when AF was due. Supposedly it can occur when the acidic environment in the vagina changes with your cycle.
I sent DH to the Dr to get checked out.The Dr told DH that it is a common misconception that men can keep reinfecting you with it, dunno if I believe that.
This is what helped me.
I make sure that when I shower that I don't soap up too much as soap strips away natural fluids which changes ph and thrush can multiply rapidly.
All the lacy gstrings got the chuck as the nylon keeps your bits warmer than cotton and thrush grows in warm environment. Also tight jeans went too.
Take acidophilus tablets like Kelly said and eat yoghurt.
Get onto it ASAP. I kept a reserve of canestin just in case as even a few hours can make the differance between a hideous case and a not so bad one.
Sorry don't mean to lecture just want to help as I know your pain!

apparently its important to keep it dry as possible - and a friend of mine who has trouble with it has even told me her doctor said she should dry herself with a hair dryer after a shower.

Also told her that if she felt it might be coming on, in the early stages, brown vinegar dabbed on the area can help.... :-k


Keen

Although this was for Group B Strep (my colony was like ++++++++++++++++++ there was so much lol).. my doctor did recommend that rather than eating the yogurt you actually insert it down below.. this allows the good bacteria immediate access to the problem area...

This is especially import when yah been on antibiotics and you've killed all the good bacteria ..

Some people dont like this method, and others swear on it.. so I dont know.

Yogurt can be inserted on a tampon, in a non needle syringe (50cents at chemist) etc...

K

I too was constantly getting thrush, at least once a month before TTC. It got so bad that the Canisten cream just wasn't working properly, so was given a strong script (however you cant take it when TTC) which killed it off quick smart. It also occasionally caused bladder infections too. I was told too that nylon nickers or stockings can bring it on.

Then a few months later it came back, tried canestan & it wasnt doin anything, got to Dr's, they sent me for swabs (however can't have used canestan for at least 48hrs before), which came back negative for thrush. She said it was most likely a skin iritation like sirisus or dermatitus & told me to stop using soap down there. Started using 'Dove', never had it since.

I've had this a few times.

I've found that when washing the girly bits, it is best to use water only. Sorbolene is also an acceptable alternative to soap. Any kind of normal soap, shampoo, bubble bath etc. can set it right off.

I have noticed that when I get thrush I am usually run down. It's an opportunistic little thing.

I've also tried wearing the yogurt internally and found that it worked for me. I put it in just before bed.

I think I jinxed myself, feeling stingy & itchy, just like thrush. Hope this doesn't blow our chances for this month. Anyone know?

U can get it from Stress, High yeast foods, an High amount of sugar can do it
I jsut got it the other day (very very mild) an im not ttc, mind u i havent had it since i was preg with my girl
As the doc recon i was Pround to them with havin stiches an that That Salt baths did good Lots of waterAn cut down on the sugar lol
I found douchin (sp?) with warm (clean) salt water or plain is the best for helpin clean up stuff..
shower before an after sex expes after sex as some times This is when its starts to happen..

not sure if that helped but thoguhts id give my 2 cents

I get it from clomid, but my dr has told me it won't affect our chances. I have found out of everything (including creams/persaries) that yoghurt does work best. The persary can make DTD very uncomfortable borderline painful as it can leave dry patches inside. Whereas I would worry that the creams would affect the potency of semen iykwim. I also take "Inner Health" which is available from chemists, its a good bacteria to help prevent thrush, its also great for your digestive system too.

Goodluck!

*hugs*
Cailin

I have heard that a tampon quickly dipped in vinegar and than inserted for and hour or so can help. I don't know how it would affect your fertile time though.

I tried the vinegar thing and it didn't really work for me and it was BLOODY painful LOL! Whereas yoghurt is cooling too.

*hugs*
Cailin

I tried that pessary thing and went bloody near insane.

i was told the same thing - about actualy putting the yoghurt into your vagina, the acidophillus (i cant spell) type of youghurt because it kills the thrush..
Also he said to wear only cotton underwear and to dry underwesar in the sun not the dryer, as the natural sunlight kills the thrush too. He also said to wear no underwear as often as possible, esp when i actually had thrush. The wierdest thing he told me to do was to lie outside in the sun with my legs spread, so the sun is shining, well you know, there... I dont know if it works.

Thanks girls

I tried the '1 day' pessary last night, still uncomfortable. Tried dabbing vinegar on Sunday during day (but only had white). It stopped the itching, till I went to W/C again.

The pharmacist & a Dr (over phone, as my Dr doesn't work Sundays) said it wouldn't affect TTC. Pkt says it should go within 3 days, then need stronger stuff.

Maybe I shouldve tried the yoghurt first. Now really not sure what to do now. Might have to get some tonight & try that & see if eases up tomorrow.

I got it a few months after going off the pill. My naturopath made this disgusting stuff to take and gave me acidopoulis (sp?) powder. I also cut out sweet things to eat and it cleared up really fast . We were advised to have this cleared up prior to TTC which we did. It is such a horrible thing to put up with.

I used to get severe thrush every single month and doctors were no help at all. Here is how I combatted my problem:

I ate a bowl of natural yoghurt every day (I found Vaalia to be the easiest to stomach :feelsick: ) mixed up with a chopped up banana to try and mask the taste.

I cut back mushrooms, milkshakes, cheese, alcohol, softdrink, lollies, bread, fast food(I have very little self control when it comes to avoiding yummy foods)

I i felt thrush coming on I sat in a shallow bath of luke warm water mixed with baking soda for about 3 or 4 mins, then inserted natural yoghurt straight from the fridge(extremely soothing) up there, sorry if TMI, but i just used to scoop it up in my fingers & kinda shove it up there, leave it in there for a while then have a warm shower.

I only ever used QV body wash in the shower and only splashed water on my girly bits.

By doing all of these things i managed to reduce the occurence of thrush so that now i only get it about 3 times a year. I can't bring myself to swallow a single mouthful of natural yoghurt anymore (should never have stopped eating it)so i drink one Yakult every morning which really seems to help me prevent thrush.

i also shower at least 15 mins after sex, but i only use water.

I hope this helps somebody, I have done countless hours of research on this subject so if anyone has a question let me know and i might be able to help.

tonnes of :pdust: and :pinkstick: to all of us!!!!

love elissa
:smt057 Me 21 DH 28
:angel: 4/9/02

Hi
I am feeling itchy and stingy today just like thrush too, I am due for my AF on sunday. Can you get this symptom if you are pregnant? Confused.

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I have heard that a tampon quickly dipped in vinegar and than inserted for and hour or so can help. I don't know how it would affect your fertile time though.

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Yes I tried this and it was wonderful. I got thrush mid last cycle because of all the semen (which is alkaline) that I was trying to get to find the egg. It changes the Ph. I dipped a tampon in white vinegar and teatree oil and inserted it and it was wonderfully relieving. Also sat in a bath of vinegar and tea tree oil was great. And sea water is good so go to the beach. Plus I got onto it as soon as I felt it coming in. Also used difulcan one which worked after 1 day, but the tampon helped until that kicked it.

I know your pain!! Don't know if anyone read my posts in the General Health section a while ago, but since I stopped the pill in June 2005 I have had thrush LOTS!!

Tried many different treatments, firstly the canesten applicator creams (3 day and 6 day), Diflucan, Monistat...... at first, my swabs were coming back negative so the GP was prescribing me all sorts of different cortisone creams (thinking it was skin infection/irritation kinda thing). Even went to Gyno (who found nothing out of the ordinary of course!). Then got some 10 day tablets from GP on prescription that seemed to work quite well.

Got thrush again the other day (am now on my first cycle back on the pill) so went to chemist and got more canesten and also some Inner Health tablets. So, I havent actually found a cure yet!! But I am going to try taking Inner Health all the time to try and prevent it. Seems like sex causes the thrush, because everytime it clears up we have sex and it comes back!! :(

Anyway, it is a horrible thing to have. Hope you get rid of it!!