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Here's the thing.....we are having a lot more success with Jacob's sleep BUT, he seems to want to rollover all the time. He rolls over onto his side, which is fine, but then he always ends up rolling over onto his tummy and as soon as that happens, bang, he's awake. I was up for 3 hours last night as a result........any advice?! This is pretty frustrating!!!
We had that problem at first with Matilda and it took her a few nights to get the hang of rolling etc... but unfortunately I have no other advice. It sucks so bad and just getting up to roll them over gets so frustrating! Sorry Tootie :smt102
sorry tootie
not much help here - lani still isn't rolling from back to tummy lol (i think she has skipped that stage)
i do remember with my first discussing this briefly with my gp at jessie's 6mth vaccination shots (she must of been rolling onto her front in her sleep by then) she didn't mind sleeping on her belly but i was worried about sids and gp just said she would be old enough to get herself out of trouble if she could roll on her front she could move if she was face down dunno - i do remember a funny thing we were travelling and she was sleeping in the bed with us one night in a motel and she woke up crying cause she rolled onto her belly and i just tried sticking the dummy in whilst i was half asleep and was sticking the dummy in her ear lol.
sorry not much help from me.
It's frustrating because it seems that one problem has been replaced by another.....argh. He's been rolling around for AGES but now he's started doing it in his sleep and it's just so disruptive!!
I went out and bought one of those safe 'n' sound snuggler thingies, which is like two pads on either side on his body.....will see if that helps? But then I'm worried that as soon as we stop using it, the problem will re-surface........
Maybe try a hammock Toots, as I was reading about the amby hammock last night and apparently the way it's designed, means its almost impossible for bubs to roll over. Plus they don't get flat heads when they lie in a hammock.
Jeanette
I'd thought of that too Shannon, and I know that he DOES get frustrated if he can't roll over, but gets upset when he does LOL. Vicious circle!! I thought it might just be a phase and he needs to adjust to it, but it's hard work ATM.........
Jeanette - I'm reluctant to go out and make a huge purchase on a hammock at this stage. He's been in a cot for a while and I don't really want to spend a lot of money on another nursery item IYKWIM, particularly as he would have to go back into the cot eventually anyway.
Tootie, I feel for you. Does he get too upset when he wakes himself? I know this might sound hard but maybe leave him for a minute or two and he just may re settle himself. I have often gon into dd or ds straight away and found that if left for a moment they would have resettled themselves. At this age sleeping on tummy should be ok as I know pp had said they will roll out of trouble if rolling is down pat.
I put Amelia in a sleeping bag for her night sleep which she is unable to roll in. This may help with the problem of rolling. I love it at night cause I can go to bed and sleep knowing she is having a big sleep without worring about sids. Although if she started rolling in that too then I am sure I would sleep just as well. It is just sometimes comforting knowing they are ok.
What a rambler I am Tonight.
Time for bed. I hope I made sense.
Hi Rose,
Jacob has a sleeping bag too, but he can still rollover, even when he's in that! LOL
I have tried not racing into him each time he wakes, just to see if he re-settles himself, but unfortunately, most of the time, he doesn't re-settle. Sometimes he does, and that's great, but other times his little grizzles turn into an established cry that needs our attention.
Hi Tootie,
We had a similar problem with Keenan - we now tuck him in tight (really tight) with a sheet over his wrap and to keep the sheet tight, I put rolled up cloth nappies at the foot and either sides where the sheet is tucked in at the edges of the cot where the matress and the cot meet - (rolled and pushed in tight so they don't come loose and can't be pulled out by Keenan)
that baby aint going anywhere! LOL
Good luck.
We're not doing all that well here.........I'm not really sure what to do.
If it's not the rolling over that wakes him up, then something else wakes him up anyway. Last night he was awake for 1.5 hours straight. Not crying, just awake. The rest of the night when he was asleep, he would be fine for say 10 - 15 minutes, then would grizzle, which would turn into a cry and would need his dummy. Then of course because he wasn't sleepy enough, as soon as the dummy came back out, he'd get upset again. So we're not doing too well.......he just can't self-settle and we're severely sleep deprived......
Tootie, I so feel for you. Sleep deprived is not good. I agree with shannon, I would try a sleep centre that will work with you for a day at teaching Jacob to re settle to sleep. My prayer are with you.
Thanks for everyone's replies. I really appreciate your support and suggestions.
Big :hug: to you Tootie.
Wish i was able to give you some advice but i don't have any.
Kimberley used to wake at night and would sleep better in her car capsule or pram so to get a good 4 hours sleep i would put her in them but not to oftern.
Hey Tootie... huge :hug: matey... I'm really sorry to hear that you are having such a difficult time atm...
Just to let you know that I went through the exact same thing with Aidyn - he would roll onto his belly in his sleep and wake himself up! So I would be going in there 3 or more times a night to roll him back.
He seemed to get used to it though a few weeks later, but that could be because thats the time that we started co-sleeping with him... As I could never get him back to sleep, so I would just bring him to bed with me.
Also, later on at around the age of about 7-9 months, Aidyn would wake many times a night as well (i still don't know why he was doing it!), and I was finding it SO frustrating... I ended up moving his cot right next to our bed with one of the sides off... just cause it made it easier for me to deal with him/feed him/comfort him whatever, plus I think it helped him sleep better being closer by.
And one last suggestion, if you think he is in a fair bit of pain with his teething, and its stopping him from sleeping, I have found Baby Nurofen to work wonders! I had a week of sleepless nights with Aidyn teething badly... and then first night I gave him the Nurofen he slept straight through! So maybe keep that one in mind if he seems to be in heaps of pain from his teeth?...
Best of luck and :hug: to you Toots... I hope it all settles down for you soon.
How are things tootie? Is Jacob sleeping any better? Thinking of you.
Well he's not waking quite so early in the morning, but he seems to be having some problems between 12 - 3 am. He just kind of tosses and turns and grizzles and then it turns into an established cry, but he's got his eyes closed etc......I'm not sure what to do about that one!!
Matilda did that on/off for a few weeks, we just left her unless it turned into a full on cry and soon she slept through that period. We often tried just going in and popping the dummy back in, but sometimes that would wake her up more, so we soon just left her and listened, now if she starts we close our door so we only hear her when she gets upset. :)
Hey Tootie,
Hope things are seetling now and Jacob is sleeping better. Just thought I would let you know I am thinking of you.
Thanks Rose! He does seem to be sleeping a bit better these days, so it must have just been a bit of a phase that he was going through. Perhaps he was feeling a bit insecure and needed to know that we were there when he woke up? Not sure.........but yes, he seems to be doing a bit better ATM which is nice!! Thanks for asking after us!
PMSL! I was thinking the same thing after I posted that!! hehehee!!
Hi tootie,
In regards to a sleep centre....I went to one 2 weeks ago and it was brilliant. Kayne would go to sleep for about 4 hours then wake up and not be able to self settle. I am working full time at home and was unable to concentrate due to lack of sleep - hence it was easy just to put him in bed with us.
Well after spending a week at the sleep centre - he sleeps 10-12 hours per night. Yes he does wake during the night - but he now is able to self settle.
I would recommend this to anyone who is having problems with their bubs sleeping. The great thing about this place is that everyone there has the same problems and no-one judges you. And you can even make new friends there.
Good luck.
Yes, I definitely spoke too soon...........
We had a few good nights and I was lulled into a false sense of security! Anyway, we are now off to the Mother & Baby Unit to get some help with his sleep. The poor little thing is exhausted. He is always half-asleep during the night and tossing and turning, all the while whimpering/grizzling with his eyes closed, trying madly to sleep, but can't! It's heartbreaking (and tiring!)
So we've decided that since this has been going on for 2 months now, that we really need to get some help. I'm not sure when we are going, but it's soon. I hope that it helps. I know that it's silly, but I must admit that I do feel like somewhat of a failure for not being able to help him. I've tried really hard for 2 months and have managed to get him going off to sleep without much of a fuss at all (if any), but that's as far as my success has gone! I just wish I was able to do more for him. Oh well, I guess at least I can say that I've taken the steps towards getting some help for us.
Thank you SO much for that Shannon. I really appreciate your comments.
tootie
how is jacob sleeping now - what about the rolling is it all good.
i have had a bugger of a night so far lol in 1/2 hr i have had to go in around 6 times to roll lani back over, i remember you posted about this so i came looking.
lani is not well at the moment, virus with sore throat 4 more teeth cutting, constipated (she does that when she is getting teeth) and feeling downright miserable - sleeping heaps not rolling during the day but tonight rolling all over lol.
in the last few weeks i have noticed when she is asleep her head is craned right over almost like she is going to roll, i haven't had her sleeping bag on the last few nights cause her temp was up to around 39 and i have also got the vapouriser going in her room, last time i went in i rolled up a couple of hand towels and stuck them beside her - now i am worried she will pull them over her head and suffocate - and i also worry cause she is weak from her virus that she won't have the strength to get back over herself or lift her head up - she doesn't roll much at all when she is up so i am a little concerned.
guess who won't be sleeping tonight - i will be awake all night waiting and listening for every little peep.
any more suggestions on the rolling issue would be great.
mooshie, I hear you about the teething, temps and being sleep deprived. I'm sorry I can't give you any advive re the rolling but I just wanted to let you know I will be thinking of you throughout the wakeful night.
Surely they have to come through soon. It's been a month now.
Hey Michelle,
I'm sorry to hear that little Lani is so unwell! The poor little blighter! I hope she is better soon. It's awful when they're unwell isn't it.
Unfortunately I have absolutely no advice regarding the rolling over issue LOL! Jacob seems to be better on the rolling front now, in that he can do it without waking himself all the time (or at least not waking himself too much unless he belts into the cot really hard LOL). I think perhaps it is just one of those things that they kind of have to somehow work out for themselves? It's hard though and it seems to go on forever!
His sleep is very much up and down - some nights are good and if he wakes, he puts himself back to sleep (some nights he won't wake at all) but other nights are downright awful and we are in there umpteeen times. So most of the time he rolls over himself and turns around in the cot etc without too much bother, but other times he gets himself into a real pickle....hits his head really hard or gets a little stuck and gets himself frustrated and worked up, and hence ends up waking himself up properly!
His sleep is up and down during the day as well, but he is now having 2 sleeps per day.
Sorry I can't give you a quick fix......I SOOO wish I could, believe me!!! Sleep deprivation is so incredibly cruel!!
yup sleep deprivation - no wonder it is a form of toture lol.
had a terrible night last night - i gave lani a rollover around 11pm (as she had very little to eat or drink during the day) she was asleep on her tummy so i picked her up fed her turned the vapouriser off and put her sleeping bag on she went back down allright but started as i left the room - she finally went back to sleep then awake at 4am into our bed wide awake - i gathered this would happen after so much sleep the last few days she is getting better and wanted to be up ](*,) i finally gave her a bottle at 5.30am and she slept until 8am when ds came bounding in the room. i put her back down again at 9.15 and she is still asleep.
hopefully i will get her back on track cause she was doing so well with her day and night sleeping until she got this virus - they can get into some old habits sometimes after being sick -
hopefully the sleeping bag will work and she won't rollover - i am worried about it cause when she is up she doesn't roll around at all just crawls and sits lol.
anyway i am sooo tired i might go and read the paper - fingers crossed we all have a good night sleep tonight.
Yeah I think you're right, old habits re-surface when they get sick. It's hard because you've just got to do what you have to do to help them when they're sick, whatever it takes! So that usually means throwing out any sleep triggers/routines that you may have!
I hope that tonight is much better for you Michelle! I totally sympathise!
ARgh I hear you!! Matilda's been really sick with tonsilitis and then its moved into an upper respiratory infection & I've been up since 3.30am. She just can't stop coughing & it wakes her up & its awful. I finally got her back to sleep around 5.30am on top of me & I couldn't sleep so I just laid there for an hour with my eyes closed...I'm [-o< that it won't take us too long to get her back into her night routine again...