Babies Born June 2007 #4

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There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

Feeding Support:

Breastfeeding General Chatter
Breastfeeding FAQ's
Is My Baby Hungry?
Bottlefeeding FAQ's and Useful Information
Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
Bottlefeeding General Chatter
Feeding Your Baby
Lactose Intolerance
Starting Solids/Homemade Baby Food
Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?
Starting Solids General Chatter

Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids.

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Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum
Comforting Tools to Aid Restful Sleep
Babies & Sleep
Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
The Con of Controlled Crying
The Crying Game
15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

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Baby Massage
Cuddle Me Mum
Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
Baby Wearing
Recommended Reading List

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Hi everyone

Woo hoo, I get the first post.

Celsie - great pictures of the christening. So glad that you got the outfit on time.

Hmmm, can't remember much else from the old thread - sorry. Hi to everyone else.

I ran out of expressed milk yesterday, so had to leave work early and basically spend the whole day and part of the night expressing. So boring, and I only got a piddly amount too (maybe 240mls for hours of work...) Hopefully my supply will be better today. I think that Diana is going through a growth spurt, which is why she wants more milk. For the past few weeks, she hasn't seemed that hungry. She is starting to want to sit up now. She hasn't managed it yet, but sometimes looks like she is trying to do stomach crunches or something. So cute...

Hi,

Starfish - Lewis does stomach crunches too and if you hold his hands he sits right up! I think he is going to be nosey as he is always trying to get up and look around!!

He weighed 6.84kg today. I'm looking forward to him being 8 kg so I can have him facing forward in the car.

Celsie - I was going to use the Bellamy's organic formula but the pharmacist told me that it isn't as nutritionally advanced as the others. Not sure if that's true as I haven't compared but I've read people on other threads who use it and say it's great.

I've stopped my mothers group as we seem to cover the same thing each week. I feel like we are a bit in between as he's a bit young for playgroup but a bit old for mother's group. So we are doing alot of walking at the moment!

Mel - Congrats on losing 5 kilos!! I still have 4.5 kg to get back to what I was before pregnancy as I have lost about 12 now but seem to be a bit stuck. I am walking loads and eating really well but it's the big spare tyre round my middle that just won't shift!! I can get into most of my clothes now but either have to leave the button undone or just breathe in all day!! How's everyone else getting on?

Hey guess what, Lewis slept til 8.30am again this morning!!! Don't want to jinx him but I'm hoping it may be a new pattern :thumbsup:

Hi all! I turn my back for two seconds and you talk up a storm!!!By the sounds of it everyone is doing simply peachy keen :thumbsup: which is fab!

Well, DD#2 has discovered her voice box and that she can not only gurgle but squeal and chatter! Oh sosososososo gorgeous!! Makes me laugh everytime she natters away! A whole hour yesterday!! And DD#1 always says, "Did you hear that mummy??" Lol!! She also rolled over for the first time the other day and was slightly amused and a bit confused that this big chunky object (her arm) was in the way!! Hehe!

My quiet mornings are no more...........:)..........i used to have maybe 20mins after a feed to sit and have a cuppa before getting DD#1 up and putting bubs to bed - well, in the past 2 days, DD#1 has discovered that, wow! She can actually get out of bed and open the door and COME OUT on her own now!!! :doh: Hehe! She used to sit patiently and quietly in her bed and wait for us but little miss has been discovering a certain amount of little miss independance - haha!! She frightened the whatsits out of me this morning at 6.30AM!!!! I was sitting up (thank goodness) and I heard this weird noise and next thing there is this little person standing next to me with a massive grin!!! No chance getting her to stay in bed after that!

Have dropped a feed with DD#2 - bit nervous but was finding her completely not interested in an afternoon feed even though it had been 4 hours between feeds (ooh, here comes DD#1 up from her nap now! lol!!) Yesterday when I got bubs up even before she fed she did this massive spit up - her face went inside out - must've tasted terrible poor love. Then she sucked for maybe 3 mins and then spat up another 4 times in the next 20mins without having anymore bm!! When I tried to attach her she fought me and got all flustered so I left her. Well, a whole hour later :rolleyes: she finished nattering away and decided that she was tired and hungry. I fed her (it was 7pm by this time) and popped her to bed and thought I'd do an experiment and so left her (she had been feeding at 9pm before this) well, apart from changing a poo at 2am, she went through til 5.30am !!! She cried for a minute, then did her sleepy complaining natter for another 5 and then went back to sleep until I went back in at 6.50am..........:dance: And today, she has fed like clockwork on the four hour mark and slept like a charm for approx 2 to 2&1/2 hours.................

.....so who knows if this is her changing again.....but am playing it all by ear! ;)

We really are enjoying our bubby more and more each day as she is becoming so interactive and her personality is really coming out - completely cheeky and very strong!! (I think she may have a temper :redface:) Isn't it just so amazingly fun to be mummies to precious little munchkins?!?!?!:heartbeat:

Ok, off to play now!!!
Mwa!!!

Hey guys, been forever since i posted in here.

Glad to hear all you little ones are jumping leaps and bounds.

Here is an update into how Lachie is doing
He talks all the time, half the time it seems he juct screams, but its cos he has found he can make different notes with one noise iykwim, we were always encouraging him to talk, now its starting to get to the, will you be quiet for a moment stage lol
at times sounds like he is trying to say dad or mum, but thats only if he pays attention to your mouth while you say it to him.

He smiles and laughs all the time, he'll laugh at you if you make funny voices at him!! Its soooo cute.

When he is under his play gym, he has learnt to spin 180, then he starts to whinge, cos he finds himself out of reach of his toys lol
Doesnt particularly like tummy time, although he does last up to 5min before whinging, he either pulls his legs up like he is about to crawl or he will put his arms out and grab hold of the blanket and try to pull himself across.
He hasnt rolled over yet, although he has learnt how to roll onto his side, once when he first started doing it, he freaked himself out as he got stuck and just layed there eyes wide open, not moving, not talking, nothing!! i couldnt help but laugh!! poor little one

he has 2 teeth comming through, i think they are the 3rd from the top front. He loves his vegie flavoured rusk sticks, and he has a teething dummy which he continually gums!!

He has solid food nearly every night for tea. He hated the farex and the baby weetbix, the only thing i have found he likes is potato, pumpkin and beef, but now that i have enough jars to store food, am starting to make our own, so much cheeper and i know whats going in it which makes me feel better.

Everything goes into his mouth atm, including me, if i happend to be holding him against my arm, he'll just start licking it, then try to bite it.

oh and he does the cutest thing (litterely for now only, i can see this getting out of hand really fast lol), he trys to bite you as a playing tecnique, you open your mouth at him and he'll do the same and move his head towards you like he is going to eat you iykwim
but like i said i can see this getting out of hand really quickly when the time comes.

He sleeps so very well at night, normally about 10-11 hours, for the first 7-8hrs he is fine after that, he'll stirr but still be sleeping, normally he ends up in our bed at about 3-4am and falls back asleep, but will snuggle up to me so i end up in weird very uncomfortable postitions that allow me to get very distrupted sleep!

He now sleeps in his cot, in our room. he hated his craddle as it was too small for him, and he woke himself up everytime he moved, so he started sleeping in our bed until we knew whether we were moving or not, as i didnt want him to have to many things to get used to at once iykwim, but since we are not moving, the cot is set up, took him 2 nights to get used to his cot, now he loves it, and gets all excited when i put him down in it!! LOL

Anyway i think that is everything, sorry for no personals, i have read them all though.
Im really enjoying spending as much time as i can with Lachie atm, i know he wont be like this for long, so am trying to take in what i can now before he grows up! And im sure you all know what i mean.
but i will promise to pop in here more often

take care
xoxo

Hi,

Naomi - Good to hear from you, i wondered where you had gone! Sounds like Lachie is doing great. It's good to hear everything that each others baby is doing. Lewis sounds like he's at a similar stage although he doesn't spin round on the floor yet! Isn't is funny how the 3rd teeth seem to show first. I check Lewis's every day but they don't seem to come down any further.

Charly - Looks like you have your hands full now DD1 can open the door!!

Check out this website and go down to the 'baby of the month' at the very bottom of the menu. Guess who....!

Online Baby Gifts Shop ~ Baby Gift Baskets Presents Ideas Website Australia

MumofLewis - I tried to have a nosey and for some reason the pic wouldn't come up so am going to hound DH to help me :p..........can't wait to see your gorgeous man!!!

DH & I went out for supper last night and MIL sat both girls :dance: and woah! Did time get away from us! LOL!!! We got home after 11pm!! Hehehe!! Oops!! Sorry ma! :p It was lovely though coz we caught up with some friends and had grown up conversations without having to watch the time for feeds or listen out for munchkins......was really nice.......now just tired coz it doesn't matter what time I stay up til, the next day will always start at 6.30am............zzzzzzzzzzzz :p

Hope you are all well, trying to stay up to date with you all so am sorry if I don't post personals very often as by the time I've read everything, it's usually time to attend to someone! :rolleyes: As it is, DD#1 is still sitting at the table next to me after having her brekky waiting oh so patiently for mummy to play and stop typing :rolleyes:

So I really really do love you all and am enjoying sharing your journey's!! I'm just sorry I don't get to each of you enough!

Oh boy, DD#1 has spent all her patience waiting...........best go!

Mwa!!!! to you all!!

Hi
Just a quickie - Sarah - congrats on your little superstar. I love that photo as well!

I was just talking to my mum re: the teething, as Aiden seems to have started as well. Its just the top canine tooth (i always called them eye teeth, but DH tells me they are canine teeth..?) on his left side. My mum says that, as babies, we all did the same, the teeth sorta played around, up & down, but, it was the bottom to middle teeth (as per the 'book's say) that eventually came thru first. Us 4 kids did that, and my 2 nephews and neice did the same.

So, we will see. I have noticed now for about 2 weeks that this tooth is 'playing around'. I just didnt realise what was happening, but, now, i sorta looked back at somethings, and realised how long it has been going on for.

Will be back later, to catch up...

Thanks Charly for your lovely thoughts to us all. Its wonderfull to know that, despite the miles, we are still amongst friends. :grouphug:

Hi ladies

Debbie I was speaking to a friend last night who has an almost 1 year old and she said the same thing about teething - apparently the teeth move around in the gums for a month or two before the bottom ones eventually break through.

Sarah its awesome that Lewis made Baby of the Month - he's gorgeous and it was such a nice idea to give him a little 2 month birthday cake. Do you do that every month??

Well things have been a little unsettled here recently. I dont know if its just the 3 month change but Mikayla has been very naughty of a night - she just isn't sleeping well and is getting very grumpy - she's even starting to throw little tantrums. I think I've got a cheeky little one on my hands. When she wants your attention she screams at the top of her lungs until you give it to her - then she stops and gives you a huge smile.

As the paediatrician suggested I've started her on solids which she is slowly taking to. I make up a teaspoon of rice cereal (farex) mixed with a little bit of formula every morning which she doesnt really like all that much but I dont blame her the stuff is tasteless. Initially she just spat it out but she's now starting to actually swallow it and yesterday she ate the whole teaspoon. I've also bought some jars of Heinz baby food for 4 month olds so that I can guage what she likes & dislikes before I start production on the homemade stuff. She loves the pear & banana but doesnt seem to like the pumpkin & beef or apple & mango much but I'll give them another go in a couple of weeks.

My precious little girl is starting to kiss back now too - its sooo gorgeous. As soon as I say "kisses for mum" she opens her mouth up wide and when I bring my face to her she sticks her tongue out and gives me a big sloppy kiss. DH has been making kissing sounds to her too so she's also started pursing her lips but instead of sucking in to make the sound she blows out - very very cute!! Ahh she's growing up way too fast!!

Hope your all well.

Hug & kisses to all the beautiful babies xx

tina - try a little brown sugar with the farex. apparently, helps to avoid constipation. i would say it would also make it taste better. i rarely give aiden farex with just formula. i always do a half/half mix of farex&formula mixed with heinz veges. he has it for dinner, and would eat at least the equilevent to a jar. i havent given him any of the meat base ones, or fruit desert style ones. it probably too aiden about 4=5 days to really get the habg of eating. i also found that he doesnt really like the consistancy of jar food - i think he prefers it abit firmer. what i make him i guess is sorta similar to really creamy mash potatoes. IYKWIM?

Congrats on the kiss's to. How cute!

Hi Everyone!
Congrats to everyone who has managed to lose some of thier baby weight! I am starting out today ( I was supposed to start last week but alas I got the "I'll start tomorrow I have too much to do today" bug) I have 30 kilos to lose .. but baby step my first goal is 5kgs.

Charly: Kenzie is starting to "chatter" as well! Sometimes it looks like she is trying to move her mouth the way we d, concentrating so hard and then out comes a squeel it so so cute! I could chat with her for hours! You sound like you are coping reallly well with a 4 month old and (Happy Four Month Birthday!!) your 3 year old, you must be so so busy!

Naomi: Lachie sounds like he is absolutley thriving! I agree they grow up so so fast and I'm trying to spend every last moment with my presious Kenzie I can't believe she will be 6 months by Christmas, time just goes so so fast when you have a little baby.

Sarah: Congrats on Lewis being baby of the month what a cute photo! I celebrate Kenzies monthly birthday too! Nice excuse to indulge in some cake!

Debbie: How can you tell Aiden is teething? Can you see the actualy teet comming through? Mackenzie is drooling like crazy and always chewing on things but I can't see teeth coming through anywhere!

Tina: Mikaylah sounds exactly like Mackenzie when she was 3 months ... she would *scream* then when you picks her up smile straight away! Little monkey .. she has grown out of that now .. she is really content playing on the floor because she knows how to interact with the world mosre effectively and pick everything up and ut it in her mouth ew! Why did the paed tell you to put her on solids? I thought that wasnt suppose to start till 6 months? Kenzie is 4 1/2 months and hasnt had any solids :/ She would prolly enjoy farex as she looks at us eating and you can tell she wants to try it!


Kenzie is getting some cradle cap now and again and I smother her in bepanthen and it generally goes away over night. I am trying to hunt some some Gaia products as I think it might help reduce it. Yesterday she got ezema down the side of her face :( Its gone now but it looks horrid and I freaked out.

I am having bad panic attacks lately and (I suffer from OCD - (Fear of germs) and trying to get them under control. I have been panicing about catching a disease and passing it to Mackenzie in my milk :( Its awful.

Kenzie is just beautiful sometime I just look at her and feel soo much love that I burst into tears. Especially when she just looks up and stares at me then cracks a smile. God bless her little heart!

I love these BB forums, I wish I have taken part when I was pregnant .. ahh well beter late than never.

Oh ... I think I am getting AF back .. so I'm going to learn how to chart and we are going to TTC #3! V. exciting.

:hugs:
Jen

Babybella - welcome - i never got around to saying that earlier on - was abit tied up last week.
I thought/think he is teething, cause, drooling lots, red cheek on one side, and constantly stuffing fist in mouth. I ran my finger along his gum, and felt a lump. I can only assume thats it.
Also, in the UK, (i think) they say babies can start solids from 4months. I figure when i was a baby, i was started at 3month, my Dh was started at 9weeks as MIL couldnt keep him happy with milk, and we have both turned out ok. But, each to there own, and some babies just need that extra bit to help put some weight on.
Oh, Aiden does that thing as well, cry, and then, when you look at him, starts to smile. I sorta cottoned on to the fact that it also means he's tired as well.

Good luck with the OCD - big hugs to you, i hope you manage to get some things sorted out when you move. Oh, and good luck with the TTC3 - i have been thinking for ages that my AF is coming back. Nearly 6 weeks now since i stopped b/feeding, and nothing as yet.

Hi Girls,

Thanks for the comments about Lewis being Baby of the Month. I wish I had have known they would use him as I would have taken a better photo instead of me in my dressing gown! I only sent the photo in because I could get a free personalised wrap if I sent a photo of him wearing the bib!
I take a photo of him every month with a cake so that I can compare photos when he's one. And yes Jen it is a great excuse for cake as Lewis can't quite eat one yet:lol: Although I have been using Weightwatchers cakes, honest!!

I think you are right about the teeth moving up and down Debbie because I spotted those 4 teeth over a week ago but they aren't moving down at all. They will probably still be in the gums after his bottom two have come through. I've given up trying to look in his mouth as he keeps his lips tightly closed when I go anywhere near his mouth, cheeky monkey!

Jen - It's hard enough worrying about germs without having OCD so I can understand how easily it can escalate. I hope you can overcome it soon:goodluck:

Tina - How cute that Mikayla is kissing! I can't wait for Lewis to do that. Each time I kiss him I say 'kiss' so that he knows what it is but so far he just looks as if to say 'get off Mum'!!

He had a real chuckle today which was so cute. Most of the time he just has big gummy smiles and makes mmm sounds so our hearts melted when he did it.

I don't think he'll be ready for food for a while yet as he still only drinks 150ml every 4 hours. I have started offering 180ml but he never finishes a bottle.

Anyway must go, it's bath time.

Jen the paed suggested solids because Mikayla wasnt drinking much milk (lactose intolerance & reflux) and wasn't putting on enough weight. He said there was no harm in starting solids early. Even Heinz are now making pureed food for 4month olds & same with farex rice cereal.

Deb I'd been thinking of adding pureed fruit to the farex but a friend gave me the pear & banana flavoured one so I decided against adding anything else to it. I tried the chicken & sweetcorn tonight and she loved it but will still only have a teaspoon or so. I cant believe Aiden is eating a whole jar full. Sounds like you've got a great eater on your hands :D How is he going with the Losec?? Mikayla hates it and spits it out. She was great when she first started taking it but now its really hard to get her to have much at all and the reflux is starting to become a problem again. Do you know whether it would be OK to mix it into her bottle??? Thats the only chance I have of her keeping any of it down :(

Awww Sarah how cute is it that Lewis has started to chuckle. I cant wait to hear that first laugh from bubs. I think she's getting close but as much as I try I still havent been able to make her giggle :P As long as Lewis is content & thriving on formula alone then I suppose theres no real reason to put him on solids. Mikayla is only drinking 120mls every 4 hours too - sometimes even as little as 70mls. At times she drinks so quickly that I think oh wow she starving she might have a little extra but as soon as she hits that 90-100ml mark she slows right down and basically spits it out when she's had the 120ml. I never would have thought to put her on solids if our paed hadnt suggested it.

Tina - when i was giving Aiden losec, i was abit naughty. I used to just dissolve the tablet in about 20ml of boiling water in a bottle. Shake the crappers out of it till it fully dissolved, and, when cool, gave it to Aiden. about 50% of the time, he would get most of the tablet, not much particles left, sometimes, i would need to add abit more water to bottle. I butchered a teat to make the holes bigger to allow the bits to go thru. I never had any luck with the syringe. Are you using liquid or tablets? If you are using the liquid, i dont think it would matter to much if you mixed it with abit of water.
Now, since he is having solids, i have stopped the losec. He started the solids the Monday of the public holiday, and it was the following saturday that i stopped the losec. not intentionally, just, one night, he went to be really early, and i never gave it to him. The next morning, we went out, and i forgot about it again, and the sunday afternoon when i realised i had not given him the losec, and then realised that he had been fine without it, well, i just never bothered to give it to him. He does do little spews every now and then, just more dribble then actual vomit. He is abit more snuffly after a sleep, but, giving him the tablet was painfull, and, he is in not discomfort, so, i just leave him be.

Debbie - Mikayla's on the liquid and the pharmacist told me that the compounding process makes it salty and thats why she may not like the taste. Initially she was fine without it but now she's starting to projectile vomit again and I can tell that the discomfort is back because she's starting to cry, get upset and vomit even hours after a feed.

I posted this question in the reflux thread and someone suggested that you can get flavouring put into the syrup so I might speak to the pharmacist about that - otherwise I'll ring the paed and ask if I can mix it into her bottle because she doesnt seem to notice that its in there when I do that.

I'm glad Aiden is doing so well without it.

Thanks xx

what formula have you got mikayla on? just curious, as, before i changed Aiden from a thickened formula to a normal formula, he started vomiting again as well, even whilst on the losec.

Hey everyone,

I weighed Mackenze last night ans she was 5.9 kilos .. looked this up and its the 25th percentile for her age .. she was born in the 75th percentile.

How much do your bubbas weigh now?

:heartbeat:
Jen

hi everyone

Jen - I weighed Jackson this morning on our scales at home by holding him and he weighed 6.2 kg his weight gain has def slowed down as he was putting on about 800g a month and I think he's only put on about 500g this month (my GP and paed have both suggested putting him onto solids next month)

Jackson still isn't rolling over yet - he gets onto his side and then can't quite figure out what to do with his arms to get the rest of the way over its very cute to watch

he also lets out these high pitched squeal noises when he's really happy which I think are his attempts to laugh - its the sweetest sound on earth to me and usually sends me and my DH into fits of laughter as well

I got the mixture from padbury's pharmacy in WA sent to me for jackson's posseting/reflux and it seems to be helping a bit - he still pukes occasionally but its usually because he has fed for ages and is just too full I think

hugs to everyone so nice to hear that others are in the same boat as us - its pretty easy to feel isolated sometimes

Luv Mel and Jackson

hmmm! jackson is 6.2 kilos and 3 1/2 mths
Mackenzie is 5.9 kilos and 4 1/2 months (she was born 3.9 kilos. IS that enough weight gain ? I wasnt worried about her weight gain .. but now am starting to wonder if shes ok :/ she isnt due to be checked untill 6 months by the paed. Maybe I should sart her on solids. Shes not a huge baby .. but I wouldnt call her small either! I always thought she was "normal"

Jen,

I go to a chemist where they weigh your babies for you as I don't go to Mothers group anymore. She told me they should put on 200 gms a week. Lewis is 15 weeks and weighs 6.84 kg but funnily enough he has only put on 140 gms a week so even though he weighs alot she says he should have put on a bit more. Maybe you should ring your local Westfield and ask if any of their pharmacies weigh babies and you can go there.

i am going to weigh Aiden properly next week down at the Community health centre. I weigh him at home, and my scales here said he is 8kg. At birth he was 3.585
Jen, i wouldnt worry to much about how much your bub weighs. If she is happy then dont frett to much. She looks pretty happy to me in you ticker photo.

Jen Mikayla is 15 weeks old, is 61cm and when I weighed her last Thursday she weighed 5.78kg. Now the paed asked me to put her on solids because he didnt think she was putting on enough weight or drinking enough milk but she by no means looks like she's undernourished. She only drinks 120mls of formula at each feed and eats about 5 times a day. She seems completely content with the amount she's eating - I think all babies are different and put on weight at different stages in their development. Our girls are only putting on very little weight now but when the others slow down they might come into their growth spurt. I wouldnt worry too much if she seems to be happy and healthy. If you're really worried make an earlier appointment with your paed. Its better to have peace of mind!

Debbie I'm using lactose free formula with added Karicare thickener. I've increased the amount of thickener but it hasnt made any difference - she's still throwing up alot. The only reason I'm concerned is because she's not only vomiting right after a feed but over and over from the time she finishes one feed to when she starts the next. And she's starting to cry again when she vomits which makes me think that its burning her again. She needs so many outfit changes a day its driving me crazy :D

call me weird, but, perhaps try without the thickener for a few days. Aiden started throwing up on the reflux formula, and, when my paed toldme to put him onto Nan 1 HA gold, (just normal 'thin' formula), i was worried about him throwing up still, but he didnt. He actually stopped throwing up.

The Nan 1 HA gold is partially hydrolysed to make it easier to digest, if that will help.

Kenzie is 19 weeks old and has averaged 105 grams per week so far. Perhaps I should give her some baby rice cereal.

Jen, i think Kenzie is old enough to try abit of solids, but, thats just my opinion. I dont think it can do any harm to see how she goes.

Sarah - Aidens #2 dont smell quite as bad now that he has abit of solids....i dont need to air the hole house out any more :lol:

Jen I agree with Debbie - even though 105gr isnt too bad, starting her on solids really wont hurt.

Deb & Sarah - Mikayla was on Nan HA Gold since birth (initially just comp feeds) & thats what she was drinking when the reflux started until we moved her onto Lactose free but I havent tried to put her back onto it because of her intolerance - if it wasnt for her problems with lactose I'd give it another go but i'd hate to put her through that again! The paed did mention that there is another specialised lactose free formula which isnt readily available and he said that if the reflux persisted it might be worth trying it so I'll speak to him about that if things dont improve soon. She was doing great while she was on the losec so I think we really have to work out a way to get the cheeky little thing to start taking it again!!

I have got some organic baby rice. My DH isnt impressed about giving it to her though because the *experts* and all the information on when to start solids says 6 months. But if your paed suggested it Tina then it cant be too bad.

Jen go down to Woollies or Coles with your DH and show him all the baby food which says 4 months on the packaging - that might change his mind :laugh:

You could always give it a go to see whether she is ready for solids. If she's happy to eat it and doesnt get a belly ache then it should be fine. If not wait then a few weeks and try again.

Jen - is she BF or FF?? Oscar is 5.6kg and 18 weeks old. He is growing well, he can roll over onto his tummy and back again, he is *talking* and interacting. He does lots of wees and poos and he is appropriate for all age milestones. He just happens to be on the smaller end of the graph.

There are new guidelines from the World Health Organisation about weight gain. As long as she is gaining and growing and staying on her growth line then her actual weight is not really a problem. The new charts came out in 2006 due to the increased pressure on breastfeeding mothers to introduce formula or solids due to poor weight gain, which in fact is normal weight gain for a BF baby. I believe the weight gain is around 100g per week. The old charts came from the 1970's data when a large proportion of babies were FF. After about 4 months weight gain does slow until they get to about 6 months when they have another growth spurt.

I would check with your doctor before starting her on solids. She looks really healthy, bright and alert. JMO though :)

Hi girls!!!

Massive apologie for once again being MIA. I didn't realise they'd started a new thread. I've still got such a baby brain. :rolleyes:

Just a quick update on my little man, because I'm one proud mummy!

Caeleb rolled over last Monday. I put him down for tummy time and pop... over he went. I thought it was a fluke, but he did it another three times. Problem is, when I want to show other people, he refuses to do it. LOL

I had him weighed on Friday, his stats were:

Age: 16 weeks, 6 days.
Weight: 6.28 kilo.
Height: 62cm
Head Circcumference: 41.5cm

He's putting on between 180 - 200 grams a weeks still, so we're really happy. He's following his little graph in his book perfectly for his weight, height and head circumference. Although, we've been told for his age, 100 grams a week is more than enough.

No sign of teeth yet. Can you girls actually see the teeth or just feel them under the gums?

Oh, cute moment. Caeleb has a girlfriend! Her name is Isla and she belongs to one of the Mum's in my Mother's Group. She's also 3 months OLDER than him, but they're so sweet together. He gives her these coy little smiles. And they talk up a storm.

Isla's mummy (Caeleb's future mother-in-law :lol:) is teaching Isla baby sign (aka that kid on Meet The Fokers who does the milking gestures). I'm going to give it a try with Caeleb. Is anyone else thinking of trying this?

Sorry for no personals. I'm just popping in quickly before I start to tackle our tax. Reminder girls: It's due by the end of the month!!! :(

Celsie. xoxox

p.s. Sarah - did your pharmacist say what was missing from the Bellamy's Organic formula? I was really keen on switching till I read your post. LOL

Hi everyone

It's very interesting reading everybody's baby's stats. It's really reassuring to see how all babies are in fact different and can still be healthy despite what supposed experts and guidelines say.

Diana's stats at 16 weeks are:
Weight 5.6kg
Length 62cm

She will be 17 weeks old tomorrow. She rolled over from her back to her tummy twice in a row a few weeks ago, but hasn't done it since. She can lift her head up and hold it there for quite a long time. I don't give her tummy time that often (I forget :redface:), but when I do the results are variable. Sometimes she likes it for quite a long while, other times she starts to sook straight away. She is still weeing and pooing into the potty and I am so proud of her. (LOL about getting excited about poo and wee - must be a mummy thing.) She seems to have found her right leg and is kicking it a lot. Yesterday she was looking at it and concentrating really hard. So cute to see her looking so serious. :p On Saturday she even sang along when her daddy was singing to her! It was amazing. She made about three sounds in a row, all different pitches.

She is still exclusively breastfed and I don't plan to introduce solids until she's at least 6-7 months (as she was 1 month premature, I am thinking of waiting an extra month), but obviously we'll see how we go. She is thriving on breastmilk at the moment. :)

My camera broke a few days ago, so I can't take pictures at the moment. :( Although on a positive note, we picked up her professional photos a few weeks ago. They look great. $500 well spent.

Sorry for no personals. Hope you're all doing great.

Michelle: She is exclusively BF, yeah I had a talk with DH and we are going to takie her for a pediatric (sp?) check up just to make sure all is going well. She is realllly tall for her age 80th percentile and 25th percentile for her weight. I think she is teething and so is becoming fussy at the breast.. I'm am sure everything is fine i'm not that concerned .. shes such a happy little girl most of the time, shes rolling, talking, loves tummy time, so hitting all her milestones aswell.

Thanks so much for this little group! Its really nice to be able to bounce ideas of other mums with about the same age bub, I really appriciate everyones time and effort its basically my only social outlet atm!
:hugs:
Jen

Hi girls! Well, DD#2 is fed and asleep, ABC kids is on for DD#1, DH is at work (so doesn't want the computer!) and although the ironing is yelling at me as well as all those other fun attempts to keep the house clean..........I wanted to come and catch up with those beautiful lovlies who keep me sane!!! Mwa to you all!!! xx

Babybella - I'm sure all will be well at your little ones appointment! The things our little ones put us through hey?! :p Just keeping us on our toes! Hehehe!

Starfish - using the potty already!! That's amazing!! And I completely understand about feeling excited about wees and poos :lol: I will be whooping and jumping like a crazy woman when DD#1 catches on :redface: hehehe!! Actually, at the risk of possibly repeating yourself (as I most probably have missed your post re: this!) how are you managing this?!?! Coz just had a light bulb moment - if DD#1 sees that DD#2 can do it, it might just spur her on to show her baby sister up!!! Or have I missed the timing on this?
I hope you get your camera back soon too! Being a trigger happy mummy, I'd go nuts without my camera! But yay on the professional pics!! Priceless aren't they?!

Celsie - I used baby sign language with DD#1 just for real basic communication. Apart from it being so adorably cute to see her sign, it really was helpful for all of us as she could very basically hint to us what it is she wanted and on top of that I was quite consistent with the manners too! It is so easy and so fun and whilst it took a little while for her to understand and then use the sign appropriately, to this day (almost 3yrs old - and of course, mothers biased! Teehee!) she is so well mannered using her please and thank you......I love watching the stunned reactions on others faces when she is so polite! LOL!! And the great thing too is that if she forgets or if we want her to use her manners but want to discreetly remind her, i can be subtle and do the sign which then prompts her to use her manners. Also, I would always say what it was we were signing and even before she could do the signs properly, I would get her hands and help her do it each time.
Hilariously DD#1 reminds DD#2 to say please and thank you!! LOL!! So we get DD#2's hands and do the appropriate signs saying the words as we do it!! So funny!!

So cute your little man has a girlfriend! I have a couple of friends who have little boys who are either around DD#1's age or slightly older and I've indicated to DH who I would like our girls to marry!!! (Tongue in cheek of course!! She won't be allowed out with boys until she's at least 21!!! Bah-hahahaha!!!)

I've re-introduced a 5th feed after DD#2 dropped it the other week - she seemed to be quite chucky and not interested in a fifth feed so thought she was ready. The first 2 nights feeding at 7pm and then again at 7am were gorgeous and so much less chucky through the day and feeding well at all 4 feed times. But then the next two nights got progressively worse and she seems to have dropped back into a 3&1/2 hour pattern in the afternoon so the last feed is at 8.30pm. I have a sneaking suspicion that she is going through a growth spurt but am a little frustrated as she is now really chucky again but feeding really well at all 5 feeds :rolleyes: So am cutting back how long she feeds both sides and burping her like crazy before a feed, during and after and then again before she takes a nap. Although, I had her up for ages on my shoulder yesterday and a little burp came out so kept her on my shoulder for a little longer and nothing. As soon as I laid her down in her cot for a nap, blerk!! Everywhere!!! :rolleyes: Can't win!! Sympathise with the multiple outfit changes Teepee2!! :D

Debbie - that's so hilarious that you aired the house out!!! LOL!!! Is it just me or do us mummies have more of a stomach for our little ones odours?!?! :lol: Coz sometimes DH will be coughing and spluttering over bubby's poos and I go in and wonder what the heck it is he is smelling!!!!!!!!! :cryinglaugh:

DD#2 has rolled over but only in her cot and so is assisted by the slight decline as I have her mattress propped slightly because of her spittiness. Still, now that she knows she can its pretty much the first thing that she does as soon as I lay her sideways in the cot. She does wriggle on to her side on the floor but doesn't go any further at this stage.

oh but we took some precious precious piccys of her on her tummy in just her nappy and socks in her cot...........and with her dark mohawk that just refuses to go down, short of gel!! LOL!!! They are so cute! (Not very computer literate so hopefully DH will help me get some pics on here so I can show off my little mohican chubba bub!! Fingers crossed!)

Well, should go lower that ever breeding ironing pile and then write out DD#1's birthday party invites!! Oh my!! I was looking at her bubby pics the other day and it is so hard to believe that my baby has grown up and that DD#2 has to do the same!!! Happy and sad really!!

Chat soon!
Mwa!!!

Hi,

Celsie - Don't let me put you off the Bellamys formula! What happened was when I was in hospital and realised I couldn't breastfeed, DH had to go to the pharmacy and get some formula quickly. So he asked the pharmacist what was best. I had asked him to look for the Bellamy's but the pharmacist told DH that it wasn't as nutritionally advanced as the others and it was relatively new on the market. He recommended Karicare to DH which we used until we had to switch due to constipation.
But that was only his opinion so you should compare ingredients because maybe there's not much difference and really it must be good enough otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell it. I'm wondering if its just the probiotics as I know that the formulas now have them in so maybe the organic doesn't yet?
But when it comes to rice cereal and solids I will definitely be going organic and I would have loved to use the organic formula too but the first days were such a blur I just took DH word for it and used the Karicare!

Regarding teeth, yes I can see 4 teeth in Lewis's gums, 3 from the middle. But nothing in the middle yet. As Debbie and Charly said it doesn't mean they will come through first anyway so I'm not so freaked out by them anymore!

Lewis was al little gem last night. He slept from 7pm until 5am and then from 6am-8.30am! It was great because it was daylight when he woke up! My sister and 5 year old niece come from England on Sunday so I'm hoping his sleep patterns remain like this so I can enjoy my time with them. I have changed his feeds to 4.5 hours. Do you think this makes a difference to how long he sleeps at night?

Also regarding starting solids, the reason they say 6 months is because their digestive systems usually are developed enough by then to take it and feeding any earlier may cause allergies to food etc. But as we have seen all babies develop differently so I'm sure some would be ready sooner than that. I'm going to go as long as poss without giving Lewis solids but one reason for that is because my SIL told me that once you start you are constantly thinking of what to give them to eat everyday!!

Anyway must go. I was on my way out and the lift has broken so I'm stuck inside until they fix it. Aaaargh! :wall:

Hi all

Great to hear from you Charly. Just wondering where you got the info on signing. It sounds like a great idea.

Sarah in regards to solids, I know its really a matter of personal preference, but our paed explained that although most doctors recommend starting at 6 months because of allergies, the occurance of allergic reactions at 6 months is no less than it is at 4 months so he said that there is really no longer the necessity or benefit in waiting as they once thought - I suppose each doctor varies in opinion too like with most things. I personally probably would have waited too if Mikayla was feeding better.

Hi all, sorry have been busy ++ recently. Angus has (I think) decided to have a growth spurt, so yesterday I had to feed him at 7, 10, 12 noon, 1pm, 2.30, 4.30, 7 and 10.15!!! Two of the feeds were an hour long too!!! And he had only 3 short catnaps (longest 40 mins). He is currently sleeping which he rarely does during the day so perhaps he's using it for growing time. How many times a day are other babies feeding now?

Also out of interest, how many of us are continuing to exclusively BF? Just interested as a friend of mine is currently questioning her ability to BF (re enough milk) and thought about changing to formula.

Jen - glad to hear you'll be seeing the dr re babies weight gain. You've probably got nothing to worry about but it is reassuring to hear the experts say it too. Angus went through a bad time weight wise in the first 4 weeks and didn't get back to birth weight until 5 wks old after lots of extra BF's and waking him to feed. Now he's going along nicely - last time he was weighed he was still on the 25th percentile but his rate of gain was fine so nobody was worried. Perhaps it will be the same for you!

Oops, I hear a snork, time to go, hope you are all well and happy!

Fi, i am probably one of the last people to give advise, but, your friend, i would encourage her to stick to bf if she feels thats where she wants to go. If she wants to do top up feeds with formula, or, replace 1 or 2 feeds with formula then tell her to make sure she expresses as well, when giving the formula, as her milk will dry up. This may increase her supply. She can try fenugreek as well. Also, try expressing after every feed. She may also feel that she doesnt have enough, where as, bubs may just be getting better at sucking, and therefore not take as long to feed. Bubs might also just be having a growth spurt, so, if she wants to continue to 100% b/f, then she has to keep at it. My biggest mistake i think in b/f, was doing the top up feed. I possibly still would of ended up with mastitis, but, maybe i might of got a little further along before i gave up.

Feathertop - I'm probably at the same stage as your friend. I feel that I'm starting to struggle to keep up with BF during the day. I do give him a bottle of formula each day, which he takes 200mls, so I do worry if he's getting enough. I know he'd go back to sleep and be happy even if he was only 75% full. He's just so easy going, I know he's probably thinking, "Nah, I won't complain to mummy..." LOL

Let me know what she decides. I know I'm really feeling guilty with even thinking of switching him to formula. I know it's not a bad thing, but I just can't help feeling how I do, IYKWIM?

Celsie. xoxox