TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ Nov/Dec 2007

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Good afternoon ladies,

As promised I have posted again after using a FMU sample to test again this morning and unfortunately another (very very) faint positive.
AF is due this Saturday so I think I will wait until then to test again so that I can keep my hopes up a little bit longer...I am required to go into Concept (fertility centre) on Saturday anyway as part of taking Clomid - so I figure I'll wait until then.
Keep your fingers and toes crossed for me, won't you ladies!!

Ems

Emma, I've got everything crossed for you!!!!! Are you having HCG boosters?

Belle, I have been ok, not feeling too bad... the first two weeks after taking Clomid are the worst, and then I feel a bit like normal again after ovulation... glad we're taking a break, I know I won't have to take it for a while! How are you?

I am testing on Saturday (Shel's request... lol, funny story... we are on a sex ban because she doesn't want anything to go wrong, but if it comes back negative then we can do it... according to her lol!) but I think it will be too early anyway, and it'll be negative, gonna get a 3 pack, first response (are they a bad brand? ) and try again Monday and maybe Wednesday before FS appt. Good luck to everyone!

P.S. my fav tests are confirm, I've never gotten an evap line on them like I have on Foretel... but you can't use them early ( I think) because they are only 20-25, and the first response ones are 10 (I think! lol).

Em - goodluck on the weekend! fingers crossed for you!

What are HCG boosters?

Yeah im ok Leasha, good to hear you are good,im tired but ok, going away to see the Inlaws next week in Melb so shall be interesting staying in separate beds lol. I will test on Sunday i think if AF hasnt arrives.

Belle, some people have HCG booster too help support the LP... an injection every couple of days, and if you test when you've had one, it can give a false positive if you test too early. I have a HCG trigger shot to stimulate ovulation... which means I can't test until at least 10 days after the injection, or I'll end up getting a false positive...

Well after 4 months of stress and uncertainty, my pathology from a D&C has come back clear from pre canerous cells and my OBGYN has started me on Clomid, I am day 8 YAHOO. I am having lots of abdo pain, around the ovaries :dance: so I am praying thats a good sign ;) I have my first scan tomorrow at 9.30 and we are planning where to go and what to do. I want to go with AI for the conception part, our last go with Clomid our Dr at the time didn't feel it was needed and I had 7 cycles with no luck, but I was completly miss diagnosed and managed so who knows if I had my hyperplasia then as well.
My new OBGYN is great, very up on PCOS and all my issues so she is wanting to do all she can to get me "with child" LOL as granny would say.
I am excited, scared and happy all rolled into one.............I never thought this time would come for me when I got the Hyperplasia diagnosis 4 months ago, I thought I would be booking in for a hysterectomy!!!!
Thank God our Dr gave us a go to clear it with hormone treatment and now is giving us a chance to have a baby................I can't wait until tomorrow, if no eggs well its back to the drawing board I guess.
Sorry for the rambling, I am just happy to be back here..............I couldn't face being here with all the baby talk after I got my nasty results, BUT I am so pleased to be back,
Hugs Nicki

Alisia, Is this the only time you take HCG boosters, my girlfriend is telling me I should be on them now, with the clomid.........doesn't sound right to me, I will of course ask my Dr tomorrow. I thought you just took them to ovulate!
Nicki

Fingers crossed for sure Ems.................Lots of growing baby vibes sent your way,
Nicki

icki... I wouldn't have though you take them at the beginning, only to induce ovualtion, and then after if needed, for the LP...? thats what I thought anyway.

Hi ladies,

Leasha0986 - My FS doesn't have me on HCG injections - hasn't mentioned them yet, so I don't know if its a possibility later on?

Ickimum, Belle and Leasha0986 - Thankyou for your well wishes. I did another test this arvo and the faint line has gone :( Am still going in for a blood test on Saturday - but now am doubtful anything will show up. What a bummer!

Best of luck ladies - where is everyone in their cycle?

Emma... Oh bummer! It looked so good with the faint lines and everything..... I'm so sorry :hugs: GL for the BT anyway, I hope you get a wonderful surprise.

that's so disappointing Emma, have been holding back on posting my experience last cycle - I got faint lines too, tested on about days 32 and 34 and got faint lines both times but blood test neg on day 37 (when AF FINALLY arrived). What test were you using? I used discover and I won't be using them again, I can't trust them now! Although of course the other possibility is a chemical pregnancy, that might produce enough HCG to trigger a tester. And I figure chemical pregnancies are cause for hope, you're half way there (whoever said there's no such thing as being 'half pregnant' had obviously never been through assisted conception!)

Good luck tomorrow anyway.

Oh well no eggs, and no lining of the uterus, so no luck this cycle and my OBGYN has placed me on the Pill for 2 months to try and get everything back in to a cycle after the Precancerous treatment that I was on.............since the precanerous cells thrive in a thick estrogen friendly enviroment, I was on progestone to 3 months to stripe the uterus of any chance of forming them, now of course that is working against egg production so the Dr is thinking 2 months of "normal" and regulated cycles will get me really ready for clomid.
Also to day she found a "solid lump" on my Left ovary(very small), and has sent me to have a high level scan done and I managed to get in on Monday. THANK GOD as I am sure you all know waiting is terrible!!! My obgyn is very hopeful its not a cancerous lump but is airing on the side of caution and acting fast on this. One good thing is this lump wasn't there in July or September, when I had surgery and scans at that time.
Oh well I guess life just isn't alway a place of happiness and Joy............I am okay about the Pill side of things, just want to know that I do not have ovarian Cancer !!! I will get the results after the scan as they have a Dr on site that comes and talks to you about things after the scan.
Hugs Nicki

Ickimum - my best wishes go with you for a clear scan on Monday - gosh, you have alot on your plate.... i know the worry of the wait, as i had a malignant melanoma when i was 25, which thankfully was found early.
Reading your message has put my day in perspective.... i woke up with my cranky pants on, and thought oh no, i'm irritable and snappy, so you know what that means..... pmt... AF .. although i'm only on day 21. Still atleast another week to see if the clomid has helped.... and this is different, my sense of smell seems to be out of whack?

Have a BT on Monday to check my day 23 progesterone levels - are there any of you ladies out there who can give me an insight as to what levels are considered good?

Wishing all a great weekend! And all the best for monday ickimum, fingers crossed.

Hi ladies (sorry not to mention you all by name)
I'm a new member to BB and have recently joined a number of threads although I think this is probably the right thread for me at the moment.
I have unexplained infertility and like some of you I'm also on Clomid - 2nd cycle. AF due this Sunday - I'm over the disappointment month after month, so I've promised myself not to test unless AF is at least 1 week overdue.
My FS only suggests I do 3 cycles of clomid - from there my options are injections or IVF. Does anyone have an opinion on injections? I'm not sure whether to jump straight to IVF.
Anyway, I'm still catching up on all your stories, but in the meantime my fingers are crossed :crossfingers: for everybody.

Hi lynros, and welcome.... i've only recently joined this thread also, as i'm on my 1st clomid cycle.
I too have unexplained infertility, and my Dr has suggested 3 clomid cycles, then IUI, and then IVF if needed - i'm not too sure about injections, i haven't read much info about them - or are they tied in with IUI?
For me, i'm ok with taking small steps, and if that is no good, then eventually i will arrive at IVF - i guess i've been trying to take the least invasive treatment option over the straight to IVF option, and DH and i have only recently settled into our own home, where we will be staying put for atleast 5 yrs, so financially the small steps have suited us also! But every one is different, so only the two of you can do what suits your needs.
I definitely understand the disappointment each month - i think i've only used a HPT about 5 or 6 times over the last 2 years, as i just new that we hadn't hit the jackpot - actually my Dr was surprised when i casually mentioned at my last appointment that i didn't have any HPT's in the house!!
Best wishes to you, i'm sure someone on this thread will have some info on injections - collectively, there is so much knowledge contained on bellybelly regarding fertility, i'm amazed at what i've learnt! And everyone is so supportive.

Enough from me tonight, i need some sleep!

Well, 75mg of Clomid has done the trick! :dance: I am pregnant! 4th try lucky lol! Go to FS tomorrow afternoon, for BT referral. :)

Great news Alisia, well done!

Hi lynros and theresep, good luck with your clomid journeys, I hope it's a short sweet one. I am also unexplained and finally hit the jackpot in 2005 after a m/c and four years TTC, DD born in 2006. My FS last time did not start me on clomid, we jumped straight to ovulation induction using injections, then after a couple of those did IUI (again, using injections) and then onto IVF. After four failed IVFs we conceived naturally on a break after a chemical preg on IVF. This is probably the last thing you want to hear but when you're an 'unexplained' no matter what you do to try and get some control over this process, in the end it comes down to sheer luck and you never know when you're going to strike it lucky. That's why I don't use HPTs as a rule either. Except last month, which was my first month on clomid (my OB suggested I give it a try for 3 months) and I went a bit nuts on it and started testing as soon as I got my good day 21 progesterone back which just drags out the torture and wastes money!

I'm seeing my FS tomorrow and I suspect she will recommend I fast track it onto IVF. I think age has a lot to do with it. I was 31 when I first saw the FS. I'm 37 now. I don't think she'll want to waste time with clomid.

Injections aren't really so terrible, IVF sucks and costs a bomb, but when you do strike it lucky in the end, it all seems worth while.

Good luck to everyone!!!

Emmalina

Hi everyone,

I thought it was time that I posted here instead of just lurking :redface:

We have been TTC since the beginning of this year and after one (possibly two) chemical pregs I was diagnosed with a probable LPD. My ob recommended I start on 50mg of Clomid which I did in July. Anyway, we got a BFP on our very first cycle of Clomid, but to our utter devastation the pregnancy ended in a missed miscarriage at 12 weeks in early October :cry:

Because we are not getting any younger (I'm 37 and DH is 41) we waited the recommended one cycle and I have started back on Clomid this cycle. I'm now in the TWW (2 or 3 DPO) yay (not!!) I can't stand the TWW, but after my miscarriages I have sworn away doing a HPT until AF is a week or more late. It hasn't been too bad this time around, all I've had was a bit of ovary pain last week and some hot flushes - pretty good compared to the first time where I got really bad mood swings. Obviously we are really hoping for a BFP this cycle in time for Christmas :pray: If not, I go back on Clomid for one more cycle then I'm not sure where we'll go from there (injections I suppose :dunno:) - I'm planning on having a chat to my ob about it next week when I get my CD21 prog result.

Anyway, that's enough about me! Look forward to talking more and congrats Alisia on your BFP :)

Thanks for the best wishes, it worked no tumors nothing.......not sure what the obgyn was seeing on Friday but the high level scan was clear of tumors PTL, But we did find that Clomid did work this cycle, 3 eggs all ready for release, but the bummer is I have NO lining to speak of so we have decided to let it go this month, I am not risking unhealthy preg or miscarrage due to poor lining, let alone the fact that its unlikely a preg would take hold anyway. my Obgyn is away until Jan 14th, so I am taking the pill until then in the hope that the lining will get back to normal after the 3 months of progestone I was on............anyway, I am keeping check here over the Christmas break, Good luck everyone,
Hugs Nicki

Nicki, that's great news about your scan not finding any tumour, but bummer about no lining :( Don't blame you in the least for not wanting to take a chance.

Hope everything gets back to normal for you soon. Sorry I should have given you my well wishes in my last post :doh:

Congrats Leasha!!!

Hi girls just wanted to let you know I got a BFP too! we must have concieved naturally which is a miracle it has never never happened to us before in 22months of TTC. I tested on Friday last week but it was faint but waited until yesterday to do another and it was a dark line !!! wont have the bloods done until next week though to confirm.

Thank you for all your help and support girls.

Bel
xxx

Hi Theresep, thanks for the welcome and support. Seems like we are in similar situations. I think the injections are with the IUI - and that will probably be my next course of action also. I'd like to try all options before considering IVF as I feel it will probably take alot out of you both physically and mentally and that's something I still need to prepare for. Good luck with your 1st cycle of clomid - my fingers are crossed for you.

Hi Emmalina, thanks for your well wishes. I think you're right about the age thing. I recall my first visit to FS, and after going through my options from Clomid to IVF, I remember him saying " Well if you really want a baby NOW, than IVF has the highest success rate of all the options". By saying NOW I think he was subtling trying to hint "you're 36 you know". Good luck at the FS tomorrow.

Taking clomid isn't too bad for me. The only real side effects have been hot flushes but I take the tablets at night so as to lessen the burden. I'm still charting my temperatures. Is anyone doing this as well? I've mixed feelings about temps because I read somewhere that if your temp was 37 deg and stayed that way from days CD26 on, then there was no need for a HPT as you were pregnant. Well I've been 37 deg on many occasions right up to and including the day AF arrives - so that blows that theory out of the water cause I aint pregnant yet.

Good luck to all!

Good news for you Ickimum, regarding the clear scan! What a relief - lets hope the pill will be good for rebuilding your lining. Enjoy your Christmas break :)

Belle and Leasha, such wonderful news for the both of you - all the best for healthy pregnancy! Keep your fingers crossed for the rest of us!!

Hi and welcome to megsmum - hope you get your bfp in time for Christmas!

Lynros - i'm also still charting my temp! I stopped for a while, but after i had a lap, my FS asked me to start charting again, so i've just kept going - i've got it down to a fine art now, barely moving as i stick my hand out for the thermometer!! Not sure about your theory either, as my temp often stays high up until AF..... another of life's little mysteries... don't you just luv 'em ;)

Best wishes all

Hi lynros,

I chart my temps too, although this month I have only charted until 4 DPO - I am getting a bit over it all :rolleyes: and I find that I sleep not so well when I am charting. I hardly ever get temps of 37, and never got even close to it the cycle I fell preg, so I don't know about that theory either. LMK if you would like to see my preg chart - I can post a link to it if you like. Anyway, as far as I am aware, the theory with the temps is that if they stay elevated for longer than your normal luteal phase then you *may* be preg - that's what happened with mine and as it turned out I was preg.

HTH :)

I don't think it is necessarily the temps themselves, but the pattern.... if they stay above your normal LP temps (like Susannah said) then I'd say thats a good sign. Also, some people never have temps reaching 37, especially if they do oral temps... mine are vaginal (yes, very glamorous!) so they tend to be higher than oral temps.

The temps for this cycle (with my BFP) are in my sig. if you want to have a look...

Hi all,

Thought I would have a chat. Have been on another discussion.

Anyway I am on my 2nd cycle of clomid and really don't have any side affects (thankgoodness) though I do take the tablet at night before bed also.

I also temp, as I have given so much information on charting etc to my Prof (Repromed) and it has helped us tremendously to understanding things.

I am heading towards Ovulation, so I have my fingers crossed that this cycle will be my Christmas Pressie.

I wish you all the best and hopefully we all have BFP this cycle.

xxx Sue xxx

Hi Megsmum, glad to see I'm not the only one so over charting temperatures. I get quite obsessive sometimes about it, and it drives me crazy :wall: If you could send a link to your chart that would be really handy, thanks.

Leasha0986, I think you're probably right about the pattern although like I said, my temps are often around the 37 and stay that way til AF :confused:

Good luck to everybody counting on BFP's this weekend.

lynros - I know exactly how you feel about charting, it's so easy to get like that I think. I'm really trying hard to just relax about it all this month. And we are going away for a few days next week, so I'm not going to pack the thermometer (or any HPTs ;))!! Anyway, I've put the link to my preg chart in my sig - I hope it helps :) and good luck!

sryan - good luck for your 2nd cycle :) That's great that you haven't had any side effects, and I hope you (I hope we all do!!) get your Christmas BFP.

Hi All

It is comforting to see some other here like me who are just at the start of this process. I have just finished my second course of Clomid (days 2-6) at a higher does than last time (now 50mg). Scan on Monday to hopefully see if there is any sign on follicle growth. Not feeling very confident as at 25mg supposedly had a day 10 follicle at 10 but by day 14 when futher scan done the lagest follicle was 8.
FS seemed to think 2 follicles measured together at day 10 scan.

So now on second cycle to see if this works. My FS initially indicated that I we would do 3 cycles Clomid, 3 cycles Clomid + IUI and then if nothing IVF. However as I had already had 1 Clomid cycle with no success I don't know if the 3 cycles means 3 cycles of taking the Clomid (working or not) or if it means 3 cycles with O.

Well fingers crossed for Monday, luckily for me I managed to get this in before Xmas or else a month would have been lost of not knowing if the increased dose worked or not.

Good luck to everyone and have a relaxing Xmas.

Hi KellyD, and welcome! I'm also on the clomid - you may have read a few of my earlier posts - this is my second round, at 50mg, cd 5 - 9. Today is cd 12, so will have the 'do not disturb' sign on the front door shortly!!:dance:How have you been with any side effects? I've thankfully avoided them so far. My FS isn't doing any scans to check on follicle growth - are you doing this because there is a question mark over your body ovulating naturally? It's interesting reading about different procedures that other FS do. I've also decided to have acupuncture while i'm on the clomid cycles. This second round, i feel like there is more 'movement' in my lower abdomen area, this makes me think that the wheels are turning, and my reproductive organs are busy doing their job! LOL - the thoughts i have sometimes are funny :doh:Good luck for your scan on Monday! And enjoy your Chrissy also. x

Hi teresep and KellyD, I just wanted to say good luck to both of you for this cycle! I am 8 days into my second cycle on 50mg Clomid and just about to start our "week of love" LOL expecting to O late next week, a few days before Christmas thank goodness. The side effects this time around have been pretty bad - really bad moods, not sleeping well and headaches - but they seem to be easing off a bit now at least.

teresep - I had ovary pain for a few days leading up to O last cycle, so I'd say your movements are probably a good sign too. Hope you've got that Do Not Disturb sign up soon (if you haven't already!)

KellyD - I must be just about at the same stage in my cycle as you are - I take Clomid CD1 to 5 and took my last tab on Tuesday this week. I hope the 50mg dose works for you :crossfingers: my ob started me straight out on 50mg and I O'ed first cycle on it, so maybe 25mg just wasn't enough?? Although I should say that I'm taking it more to correct a LPD and lengthen my short cycle, so I may be a bit different to you. Good luck for your scan on Mon, hope it goes well.

Good luck all.

Hi theresp & megsmum

My FS stasrted me on 25mg to see if we could establish O. I was diagnosed with PCOS in May of this year although always sensed something was wrong as pretty much since puberty (13) I would only have a period once every 8-10 months.

I went to a gynae in Jan 06 and had a lap & hysterscopy done to see if there was any reason but everything was clear with no endo & clear tubes (thank god) and the conclusion was I would only get a period after O occured which was infrequent. I was advised at that time when I wanted to get pregnant then clomid would be the option to have regular O.

After being diagnosed with PCOS, I got a referral to a Gynae here in Ballarat who also happens to be the IVF specialist up here (lucky for me or else I would have had to go to Melb) as I was having an extended cycle - 2 mths. After discussions with them I looked at the options and my partner & I decided that we better start trying due to the length of time this could take, my age (35 in Feb) and also genetic factors of a history of early menopause.

Hence started last cycle at 25mg to see if worked (and also to monitor that hyperstimulation did not occur due to there currently being approx 45 small follicles per ovary from the PCOS), the 25mg had no impact on the follicle growth, hence having a day 10 & 14 scan, although I did have the side effects of an increased body temperature and bloating.

This cycle only side effect is the bloating although I have started to get some mild cramping in my lower abdo, so maybe something happening but I don't get my hopes up. Monday will hopefully give me a better idea and then a possible rescan on Friday as well along with LH testing day 12/13/14.

Good luck to you both with this cycle as well, with any luck we will all have some good news for Xmas/New Year.

Hi teresep & megsmum,

Thanks for your good wishes. Side effects not too bad this cycle, only bloating. Last cycle suffered from increased body temp & bloating.

The reason my FS started me on 25mg was due to PCOS (approx 45 follicles per ovary at last scan) and didn't want me to either get hyperstimulation or multiple follicles grow, so starting at low doses and building up from there.

The 25mg had no effect on the follicle growth at all so will see if the 50mg works any better. If not it will be 75mg next cycle and so on. Fingers crossed for my Monday scan with hopefully some follicles growing, then probably the day 14 scan to see if there is a lead follicle.

theresep - it is interesting that you are not having scans... My FS won't let me proceed with a cycle without the scans and if there is any hint of more than 2 lead follicles they cancel the cycle as they don't want to risk having more than possible twin births.

Fingers crossed for you both.

Hi Kelly D and Megsmum - how are the both of you going? Well, i can take the 'do not disturb' sign off the door, as i've ovulated sometime during the last 24 hrs! My temp had been holding steady at 36.5, then this morning a good jump up to 36.85! Very pleased to see that rise :clap: I'll be heading to the tww thread now, so :crossfingers: ......... i actually have a vague recollection of a dream i had a few nights ago where i saw two lines on a hpt!! Hope to see the both of you in the tww thread shortly! Best wishes to you, and have a lovely christmas :confetti:

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum and like alot of you are taking Clomid.....first cycle. I have a few questions that I'm a bit unsure of. I had to take 5 days of Primulot tablets to start my period then following on days 5-9 took 50mg of Clomid. Ive been using maybe baby salivia tests to see when to pinpoint the time of ovulation. I'm now on day 17 and nothing is showing!!!! What do I do if I don't ovulate and don't get a period in regards to starting the 2nd cycle. That and does anyone know if the medication can give a false reading on ovulation teats?? Sorry to ask so many queations but I'm a little confused. Ive had some cramping on one side the last 2 days...could this mean ovulation. Ive been tracking my temp to and it is still steady.
Can anyone help.

Hi ladies, how are you all?

teresep - yay for O! All the best for your TWW, hope to be joining you in a few more days :) Hope you have a nice Christmas and that we all get a lovely New Years present.

KellyD - I'm not having scans either, just had a CD21 prog done last month (which was 50, so a good result) and don't even have to have that done this month. But it sounds like your case is a lot different to mine, as I don't have PCOS. I definitely think that some drs treat patients with Clomid a lot more conservatively than others - I guess it depends on why you are taking the Clomid in the first place - my dr is pretty "hands off" I guess. Good luck again for today.

Kristen160 - Hi and welcome :) I haven't used Maybe Baby, so can't really comment on that sorry, I just use OPKs, temp and CM observations. I just checked my OPK leaflet and it says not to use them within 3 days of your last tab as it may cause false positive results, I am on day 11 today and am starting OPKs today (I take Clomid CD1 to 5). Are you getting a CD21 progesterone test done this cycle? If so that will tell you if you ovulated or not - as I said above my dr did it first cycle to check that the Clomid was working as it should and that the dose did not need to be increased. I'd be waiting until about CD35 if I were you and if AF hasn't arrived I'd do a HPT and contact your FS as to what to do next. I had cramping last month before O, so that may be a good sign, are you checking CM too? I'd start OPKing if I were you too - I start when I either see incresed CM or I get to day 11. I HTH and good luck with it all! :)

Hi everyone,

Well my scan yesterday was not so good for me, at day 10 have 5 leading follicles (between 18 - 22mm) each so this cycle has been cancelled due to too high risk for excessive multiples. Am also having to spend next few days at home resting as I am showing signs of Hyperstimulation.

So now have to wait for O to occur for the Hyperstimulation to subside and then next cycle reduce Clomid back down to 25mg as it appears the 50mg did too much. If the 25mg next cycle doesn't work then will probably have to start on injections so the dosage can be managed better.

Kristen160 - I was the same as you having to take Primulot for 5 days to start my period for the first clomid cycle (due to not having a regular cycle). I take Clomid day 2 - 6, and in my first cycle of 25mg had scan at day 10 to see if clomid worked (no leading follicles), as nothing promising had another scan at day 14 (still no leading follicle). So O did not occur in first cycle and no period at day 28, I rang my clinic who advised to wait till day 35. Still nothing at day 35. Was told to wait until day 42 and if nothing to start Primulot again. Period started at day 40, so started Clomid day 2 - 6 @ 50mg. This is the cycle I am now in with the 50mg being too much. I was advised that the probable reason for the delayed period from cycle 1 was due to the lack of O and as my body doesn't have a regular cycle it is still trying to figure everything out. Fingers crossed this cycle it starts between days 28 - 35, so I can start again on the lower dose. I also had the mild cramping in my first cycle, but this appears to be not because of a leading follicle but because in cycle 1 I had around 30 small follicles grow. So the cramping was from the growth of too many small follicles. I have also had cramping pain this cycle and that is because now I have 5 enlarged follicles. If in doubt call your clinic and ask all the questions. I am probably lucky as my FS clinic are really supportive and I can call them anytime with questions.

teresep - fingers crossed for you that your Christmas wish comes true.

Thanks Kellyd and megsmum for your replys,
Its so nice to have contact with people who know what you are going through. Just wanted to ask

kellyd - on your first cycle did your temp remain stable even though you eventually got your period at day 40? Sorry it may be a stupid question but I'm new at this and need all the help I can get. Is it basically....no temp rise...no ovulation?

megsmum - no ive not been advised to get a CD21 progesterone test...can you explain this for me please? and what day is this usually tested on. I'm at day 17 now......could ovulation still occur??? Sorry I'm so new to this

Could anyone recomend a good OPK?

Hope all is progressing for you all and thanks for your support

Hi Kristen,

Yep, generally no temp rise means no ovulation. But keep in mind that there are other factors that can influence your temp such as disturbed sleep, breathing through your mouth, so you may still ovulate but your temps may just not be showing it. I just checked the Clomid leaflet out of the box and it says you can expect to ovulate 6 to 12 days after the last tablet, so maybe you are just one of those people that take a bit longer to O. I don't O until 9 days after my last tablet FYI. I'd be inclined to hang out for a few more days if I were you :)

The CD21 progesterone test is done on day 21 and basically if your levels are above about 20 it means you ovulated. But it is done on the assumption that you ovulate around about day 14, so if you O later you should have it done about 7 or 8 days after you detect O. That is when your progesterone levels are at their highest in your cycle. I'd contact your dr and ask for a request form to have it done - I'm surprised that they aren't already doing it to make sure the Clomid is doing its thing :dunno: My dr only does it for the first Clomid cycle, just to make sure the dose doesn't need to be increased - mine was 50 last cycle on 50 mg, so this cycle I am not having it done because 50mg made me O. Although I'm sure he would have let me have it done if I wanted to ;)

As far as OPKs go, I use the "Confirm" brand. I have tried quite a few different ones with mixed results, they worked some months but not others :dunno: Heaps of ladies here swear by the Lullaby Conceptions OPKs - they are nice and cheap, but they don't work every month for me.

Good luck with it all and I HTH :)

Hi Kristen,

During my first cycle I had body temperature increase only at the time of taking the Clomid (side effect) but once I finished the course, my temp returned to a normal level. I still had to do the ovulation tests on days 13 & 14 to see if anything was happening but both were negative. When my period did eventually start I had no normal indications (sore breasts, mild cramping ect), so my body didn't seem to recognise any changes.

I am waiting to see what will happen this cycle due to the clomid now having too strong an effect as to whether this will bring my cycle on earlier (or normal for most others) at day 28 or if it will be longer. I think I am one of those who has a longer cycle than normal and that will mean that when O does occur it will be around days 16-18. This might be you as well. The Ovulation kits I use are provided by my FS so can't really give you idea what might be the best choice.

Just remember that not everyone has a 28 day cycle and as such not everyone will O at day 14, if you have a longer cycle O might be around day 17 or if you have a shorter cycle (21 days) O might be around day 11.

If you are anything like me you want results straight up but I have now learnt that I just have to let the clomid and my body do it's thing and that once I establish a good O pattern then I will be able to read my body better.

Hi there ladies
Just thought I'd pop in for a look. I have been a member of another thread but really didn't post too much. I thought after reading your entries that here is the best place for me to be now... DH & I have been TTC since July 2006. I had a lap in Aug 07 and found Endo. Had 4 cycles to TTC "naturally" and am now at the bend in the road, that is, taking 50mg Clomid. This is all very new for DH and I and I'm trying to learn as much as I can and all of you in here seem like you are onto it!! We went to our FS for CD11 scan and I only had 1 matured folly to 16mm. I then went in for my trigger injection the day after. We are now in the dreaded TWW! With AF due on New Years eve. Nice one hey!

I'm looking forward to sharing my journey with you all and being there for your journeys too!

Carley