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Do this drive anyone else nuts?? Why do people insist on calling things by names like this?? PIL are the main culprits & Zander spends one evening a week with them (& us) and he has picked up on most of them, I spend a week getting him out of saying "there's a birdie" only to have to do it again the next week :wall: I also wonder why people do it, it's making the worder longer & therefore harder to say, not easier :dunno:
OMG Sarah - I do it with Izzy! ROFL!! I've never even realised that I do it! Must be because it makes the word sound cuter or something. Actually when you think about it we do it with mum and dad too!! ;)
Oooh dear, I still say fishy et cetera now! The "eee" sound is quite easy to say, so children are more likely to attempt the childish word than the adult word with the hard end, but I suppose I will have to watch myself with this and DS - I don't want him growing up still using baby talk!
Can you ask/tell PiL to stop it? Yes, I know, it falls on deaf or angry ears, but I would try. And try, and try, and try. After all, they may stop just to shut you up!
Oooh, just remembered another one. We don't see the ducks. We see the ducky-ducky-quack-quacks. No wonder DS hasn't tried to say Duck yet! Another one for me to stop!
Oops, sorry guys don't feel bad. If it's something you do or want to do with your kids go for it, I have no problem with that. I'm more complaining that I don't want Zander to say things like that but other people are teaching it to him IYKWIM. PIL just ignore me most of the time :rolleyes:
No worries Sarah! I just found it funny that I've never realised I do it and now I'm wondering why I do, and also the fact that most people use mummy and daddy with young children mum and dad!! I know what you mean about people teaching them things you don't like though. It's so frustrating isn't it? Can you say something to them or try a subtle" Oh we saw a HORSE today - Zander can you say HORSE!" I guess all you can do is be consistent with what you teach him and hopefully he will get the message.
We do it as well lol, but Kameron and Lachlan both now say the correct way of it, both of them have done speech therapy as well so they have had no choice but to say it right, well except for Birdie cause our bird is called Birdie LOL
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Yep I hate it along with the high pitch voice. You want a child to speak properly then you need to speak properly LOL! I get in trouble for saying "Ta" because my gf *hates* it and when her son mimics she gets so annoyed with me LOL! I just hate "Give it to me" sounds so harsh.
This is one of my pet peeves too Sarah!! Its like teaching your child one language only to have to learn a new one when they are older. My favourite dislikes are " ni ni's" instead of "bed time" brmm brmm for car, actually there's a huge list LOL I have had children get to school still saying things like that and it just sounds terrible. Riley says thankyou not ta but I must confess the girls said ta!!
This used to annoy me too... but I think I have just come to realise no matter how you teach them, most of them will get it the right way eventually :)
I hate the cutesy talk too. I am another "anti-ta" mummy too - we are teaching Flynn to say thankyou. If kids can say things like "dinosaur" and "icecream", I figure they can manage thankyou....
We said ta to Zander for a long time & he never got it, then one day he came out with "tar-tu" which was his version of thank you for a very long time. We did say a lot of "ta for mummy/daddy/granma" cos same as Cai, we preferred it to "give it to me".
Yeah seth Says thanks and thank you. He only uses Ta when asking for something. OH and like Sarah please don't think I'm attacking anyone ;)
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Nope it bugs me too.. I prefer to use proper words for things.. Sometimes my 8yr old will say look Jakey theres a a birdie and I say Ethan use the right word.. i know it probably sounds mean to some but its a bird not a birdie :lol:
Probably the only thing we use a different word for is cordial :) Ethan used to call it law law and Jake calls it tordal. They can all say cordial but choose this word for it.. So half the time we say Tordal or law law lol...
I thought I'd read somewhere that adding the eee to the end of a word makes it easier for kids to pick up the hard sound? Like, if you say 'Dad', they can't hear the 'd' at the end as well as if you say 'Daddy'.
Considering my son doesn't say anything at all yet, I'll take whatever word he's happy to use to communicate! :p
We say move between 'ta for mumma' and please and thankyou. He'll pick up on something eventually. He knows what we mean anyway. Trouble with 'ta' is that if he thinks you're saying 'tongue' (first and favourite body part he learned) he'll stick it out and it won't go back in for a long time! :p
or people giving their pet names (like the ILs) to your child's dummy - no it's not a dodger - it's a dummy.
And yum yums or din dins for meals - grrr no Sarah you aren't the only one this irks....
I'd like Darcy to speak properly especially given that 2 of my MILs children say aks instead of ask cos she says it like that...
OOh yes Kim, I loathe those ones too!!! and going ta tas!
I am pmsl at the moment cause we are biggest culprits of all mentioned.
We love all the cutesy words and use them without even thinking bout it.
I have started using thank-you bit more over 'ta' because my mum absolutely hates 'ta' so gotta keep her happy, lol.
yum yums is food when DS is refusing to eat! But then it's "lasagne for dinner, does Liebling want lasagne? It's yum yums. Lasagne yum yums." And I hate "ta" too - my mum kept trying this with him. DS can say thank you, well, ang-oo, why do I want "ta"? It just sounds awful when everyone just says "taaarh" to a baby all the time, but it could be the awful accent my mum's family have.
"Please give me the XYZ"
"Liebling let go please"
"Thank you for doing as I asked"
"Liebling say thank you Mummy/Daddy/whomever"
I also make sure I remember please and thank you when out and about so DS hears these words a lot! I'm still working on people using DS's name when referring to him, I'll work on using real words once I've mastered that.
I noticed as we were out today I was saying to DS "Oooh, look, doggie. Can Liebling see the dog? A big black dog. Can Liebling say doggie?" "Hat. Hat hat hat. Liebling took the hat off. Mummy puts the hat on Liebling. It stays on now. Hat." I must sound like a right idiot walking down the street!
I always swore that I'd never be a 'mummy', I'd be a 'mum', and within about 5 seconds of having him, what did I start saying?... "Mummy's going to change your nappy now", "Mummy's going to feed you now" etc. etc.
It is bl**dy insidious, but I haven't quite gone down the complete baby talk road to ruin - I still use my normal voice and it hasn't risen an octave. I was taught to speak "good proper English like" and will doing the same for my son.
Ta is my irk. I always say "thankyou" to DS hoping that he will repeat that one day (he can't say anything at the moment). But my parents say "ta". It might be easier to say ta, but he has to learn thank you some day... so I don't want him to learn ta now, and thankyou later on.
I never thought about many of the others you have all mentioned. I'm a culprit with some of them.... ni ni. But then, I think I would say that to my husband :lol:
Ha Suse, I'd read that we instinctively use a higher pitched voice with babies because they respond better to that - spose there's a difference between soothing sing-song and annoying screeching though! :p
I guess it really depends on what stage your child is at - for us, any verbal communication Riv made would be fantastic! If he says 'ta' I'll be super happy that he's saying 'ta' and not ummph that means ta. :p Then when he starts to say ta consistenly, perhaps I'll start to suggest he say thankyou instead. Kids can relearn things, they do it all the time!
Children hear higher voices better, you're right Nelle, but there's no reason to do the baby talk too - speaking a little higher doesn't mean you have to say "does oo wanna bickie den? bickie yum yums. ta bickie." My voice does rise a little for DS, but not that much - but then, I have a fairly low-pitched voice normally.
My voice is pretty low pitched too. Ahh yeah, never really baby talked like that...though, I can understand it for really young babies, it just needs to be soothing babble really. I just never did, because I'd sing instead of babble.
Oh, I babble. DS knows it's silly - he kills himself laughing for a "ba ba ba ba bananana lama nana bana." Or if I copy the sound he has made, that's pretty funny too. This is usually during the witching hour, he just laughs at me for it. And rightly so, I can speak properly! I sing too, so much better for babies to hear real words.
Nelle, that's interesting that babies respond better to higher pitches - but I agree that there is no need to sound like you've just inhaled a helium factory.
When I sing to him I find that he responds really well to lower pitches - but that is probably because he is against my chest and he can feel the vibration more intensely. I make up silly songs - usually variations on a theme of 'what will happen to Euan if he doesn't go to sleep' (will he go in the microwave or get fed to the crocodiles), but our current favourite is one that DP made up - it goes a something like this...
Hey little Euan
when you gonna spewin'
when you gonna pooin'
when you gonna weein'
when you gonna go to sleep...
It even works as a round.
I dont like "ta" either. I usually say "thankyou" or "Claire, please let go". I get annoyed when I hear people say "taarrrrrrrr". Claire doesnt really respond to "ta" anyway.
I do sometimes say "birdy" and "horsey" etc, but not all the time. Sometimes it just slips out. I dont particularly like it as I would like for her to speak properly. That is really interesting though about how it makes it easier for a young child to hear the hard sound at the end of the word though.
I used to say "ni-ni" but I dont say that anymore. I just say "sleep time" or "time for sleep" or something similar.
:) Suse, I'm glad I'm not the only one who makes up ridiculous threats for a non-sleeping baby!
I do it to my class too!!! Luckily the parents have senses of humour LOL
I know of a couple whose son still refered to soft drink as "fizzy cuppy" until he was at least 6 years old...
Caryn, if protective services heard some of the things we 'threaten' him with - they'd have us locked up in a heartbeat! Luckily Euan is too big to fit in the microwave, and by the time we drove to the nearest croc infested river he's asleep, so I don't think anybody would take our silly songs seriously. Nonsensical threats are a wonderful way to restore a bit of sanity, and are great for those who can't remember the words to real nursery rhymes.:
(Also big in our repertoire is the 'burpy/farty/pooey/spew' song which is sung to the tune of twinkle twinkle little star... OMG - does that mean I am guilty of baby talk? Next stop, chipmunkville. Gulp.)
we always read books and she points out birdies, duckies. she also says sleepies, jarmies, din dins. i dont mind tho, as she gets older im sure she'll be saying the correct words.
oh and she also says 'offie' which means horsie....
I don't mind the fishy and yum-yum and duckies stuff so much as the high pitch voices that usually goes with it. I figure ppl say horsie for the same reason they would say johnny to a little boy with the name John. Just making it "smaller" so kids can relate to it, kwim?? Eventualy kids will learn how to speak proper, so that's fine ...
but having to listen to a grown-up cooing in a high pitch voice gets me all the time. Espesially when it's a real small baby and ppl goes all gogo-gaga and stuff - flips me out each time. Can only imagine how scary for the kid :)
i hate it when mil say "dwinky" in that annnoying sing song voice .... grrr
Oooh, Lea - now that's a REALLY annoying one - replacing 'l' and 'r' with the letter 'w'.
"No, the widdle bubba doesn't want a bwuddy dwinky pwease, the baby wants a bloody drink please, or mummy will get vewy, vewy cwoss". Makes Elmer Fudd sound well spoken.
Should be a hanging offence IMO...
Oh yes! Dwinkie, Hewwo, WHAT? I can't understand that, how will DS? His mother, who speaks to him the most, was voice trained by LAMDA, he will not be able to understand stupid-sounding people. (He can't understand some of my mother's family with strong accents because they sound so dreadful; at Christmas they spoke to him and he had no clue, I had to repeat it!)
I would never call John Johnnie, nor would I call Frank Frankie, David Davey, Samuel Sammy, Barbara Babbie, Phillip Philly, Francine Franny, James Jimmy, Christian Chrissy (Nadine Naddy, Suse Susie, Lea Leery, Rosehip Rosie)... these babies have a name. Use it. Don't make one up that you want to use. I have a big issue with this with my DS!
it is pretty annoying ... i have been saying ta but nixon doesnt respon and way , i always say please and thank you if he gives me somthing , and always use the right words for him .... well some times baby words slip out ...
but id be happy if nixon said any thing at all ...
he walks around the house saying "dirka dirka dirka" all day dh said he sounds like sometihng from team america ...