Late immunisations

Now i know some people delay their kids immunisations for reasons and thats fine by me.

But i have a quick question.

Generally my kids have always been done on time (withing 1-2 weeks) of them being due. However my DD2 is now 8 months old and i still have not done her 6 month needle...

Is there going to be a big problem with not having that done yet? As far as Roto Virus one goes?

I will be doing them this weekend hopefully.

Another question:

How late can i delay DD1 18 month needle...thats the one i dont really want but i feel bad not doing it cos ive jabbed her any other time?

Kim, i won't comment on the actual immunity side of things cos i have no idea - though from what i've read, immunising isn't the be all and end all - some parents are opting not to immunise their children with no ill effect, so i'm going to assume being a little bit late isn't a drama!!

what i will comment on (cos i actually know this bit :p ) is that, if you are using child care, your CCB will cut out if you don't have your children up to date with immunisation, or your GP hasn't lodged an approved catch up plan with the immunisation register (or conscientious objection if that is the case - before i get in trouble from anyone!). if it cuts out, you won't be eligble for CCB until you're kidlet is up to date again and you provide the evidence to FAO.

sorry, figured i'd pop in and mention it cos i'm pretty sure you've mentioned using child care in the past

BG

Thanks BG....i dont get any CCB as it is cos DH earns to much money....they have sent me a letter to say Jasmine isnt up to date and wont be getting any CCB til she is...but we dont get any anyway..LOL

it will work against you for child care rebate (the 30/50% one) too - as you have to qualify for CCB to get CCR - and given that you are working from home, you should qualify for that one - from that perspective, i'd be getting it done sooner rather than later

and up til this sunday, if your kidlet was up to date you'd be getting minimum rate CCB (16.74%) as even millionaires were entitled to it til the end of this week!

Thanks heaps BG....i think for her safety ill get them done this weekend anyhow.

Money means nothing to me...0% on childcare fees hurt though....both girls are in FDC now!

Neither girls are up to date...Jasmine need her 6 month and Chelsea needs her 18 month (however they have paid her immunisation allowence..woohoo)!!

Immunisation allowance only involves up to 12 month injection as 18 month isn't "compulsory"

So if i didnt give the 18 month one ever....would Chelsea get classed as 'not up to date'?

My MCHN mentioned something that the Rotavirus one can't really be delayed, it has to be started and completed within a certain time frame. Sorry can't remember what that was, other than there was very little room for delays.

the 18 month injection is, as far as i know, not compulsory on a federal level for MIA purposes as it didn't exist when the MIA was introduced. with regards to CCB/CCR, i believe it will be a requirement though as the childhood immunisation register will notify that you're not up to date

Hi,
Isabella is eight months and will be having her 6mth immunisation next week as she had her 4mth needles at 6mths as she was unwell and doc said to wait at least two months if all that makes sense. So timing doesn't really matter.
Hope this helps.

Regards,
Dianne

Rotovirus cannot be given over 6 months as it has only passed testing requirements for up to 6 months. So there is no way that can be given now. With the others it really makes no difference. CP can be given at any time so there is no need to stress about that.

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the 18 month injection is, as far as i know, not compulsory on a federal level for MIA purposes as it didn't exist when the MIA was introduced. with regards to CCB/CCR, i believe it will be a requirement though as the childhood immunisation register will notify that you're not up to date

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Eeeek I had better get Riley done then cause we need the rebate. I hadn't had the 18 month needles cause I decided he didn't really need them but I may have to change my mind.

mrsmac, bg is spot on. J had his late as he'd been ill and we got the immunisation allowance but I had to get a letter from the GP or we'd have lost the CCB. You get a letter 30 days before they stop it though, so you could wait until you get that.

Kim - we were late too, only had them done yesterday and didn't have any problems. I didn't know about the rotovirus one, but I just checked his blue book and they didn't give it to him. He had it at 2 months and 4 months. Not sure if it's on the schedule for 6 months??

Not sure Willow...i assumed it was as the Dr always said it was 3 doses (so i guessed 2,4 and 6 months).

I am thinking of sayin no to CP and getting the dr to write a letter or something.

I don't know for sure as that went onto the schedule after T, but I think rotovirus is just 2 & 4 months. But I think it only lasts for 12 months or so anyway, so I wouldn't say missing the last one at this stage would be a big deal anyway.

Bugger, looks like I've got some investigating to do then...I can't believe she didn't say anything to me about it if it IS on the schedule but they didn't give it to him...grrrr...

**ETA, thanks MR, will double check but not going to stress about it...

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The vaccination course of RotaTeq? consists of three doses and is recommended to be given at the same time as other vaccines included on the National Immunisation Program at two, four and six months of age.

The first dose of RotaTeq? should be given no later than 12 weeks of age and the third dose should be given by 32 weeks of age.

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Sorry, I was a little off. I thought 6 months was the latest, but it must be 8 months. That's my poor memory - this is going back to when T was a baby. He didn't have it though, it was available at a cost but wasn't on the schedule. But I remember that there was an upper limit for timing as it's not known whether or not it's safe after that.

Funny they didn't say anything to you Willow.

Was around when Chelsea was born, it was a paid thing then as well....so new to me. I never really wanted to give it but Dh always took Jasmine for needles and was always given....

Gee what hard could some more drugs in their tiny bodies do?? (end sarcasm)...LOL

I really wish immunistations were so 'do the right thing and get them done'....i get the guilt trip if i say we are not doing them, i give in every time.

Is the Rotavirus vax the oral one? Oliver had his 2 month vax yesterday (at 4.5 months) and was too late for the oral vax. I had them done at the council session (free, as opposed to my GP who charges $50 a visit) and they didn't say anything at all about him being late which surprised me, I was expecting a bit of a lecture.

Have you thought about homeopathocally vaccinating? I was speaking to the lovely naturopath at BellyBelly, Nicole, and she was telling me of the studies that showed non-vaccinated chidren actually had stronger immune systems. There are lots of new vaccines out there at the moment, it concerns me, we are always finding out bad side effects and not doing enough study but all these new things just keep coming out... I stopped vaccinating and my kids have been very healthy. I know all Pinky's kids are not vaccinated either and they are very healthy, smart and intelligent kids. In fact, whenever there is an outbreak of something, its the parents of vaccinated kids that jump up and down - but shouldnt they be wondering why their vaccinated kids got sick?

Hmmmm. I was 2 months late with Pip's vaccination, and maybe that's why we're not getting the $$$$ paid to the CCC. Doh.

You should get the immunisation benefit regardless, even if you choose not to vaccinate. You just need to sign a form to say you are making an informed decision not to vaccinate. Don't they pay it at 18 months tho?

Kelly whats homeopathocally vaccinating?

Kaz you will get the immnunisation allowence at 12 months. You will also get a letter from FAO if Pip isnt up to date saying they will cut your CCB if you dont get them up to date (unless they have done that and already cut your money). I got one for Jasmine the other week, but we dont get any help so theres nothign for them to cut!

You use homeopathics instead of pharmaceuticals :) If you are free on a Tuesday or Thursday, pop down to the centre and have a chat with our naturopaths about what it involves - you can buy the homeopathic vaccination kits from Nicole, not sure if Jocelyn has them? But probably could access them. Or Nicole might pop in here...

You actually get the immunisation allowance at 18 months. But I think they stop the CCB when any vaccinations are missed. But they do warn you first.

doh. I missed opening a letter that said they were about to cut the CCB but now he's vacc'd. Turns out the CCB was stopped cause they're moving from one system to another and centrelink put his birthday in the system wrong by a day. So now I have to take his birth certificate to centrelink. Yay. There goes my monday.

Kim, on the rotavirus vac, there are 2 forms Rotarix or Rotateq.
Rotarix is given in 2 doses at 2 and 4 months. Or
Rotateq is 3 doses given at 2, 4, and 6 months.

Sounds like different states may use different forms. We had Rotarix here, so the 2 doses. Maybe where you are they give Rotateq..They do the same job though, same effectiveness.

Thanks Lee.....we have Rotateq here... :)

Might have to think about that Kelly and pop in (oh my im bound to get lost!!)

As far as I know, you should receive the CCB whether your child is vaccinated or not - as long as you send in the conciencious objection to vaccination form signed by your GP. It is perfectly within your rights to delay individual vaccinations, or delay the entire vaccination schedule if you wish.

From my experience, I have seen many children who have had homeopathic prophylaxis (the homeopathic equivalent to pharmaceutical vaccination) and they seem to have a much stronger immune system, and seem to be more resilient to common childhood ailments. I always have homeopathic prophylaxis kits in stock, along with articles and relevant information for parents.

Isaac Golden has completed his PhD in homeopathic prophylaxis, where he undertook a 20 year study comparing children who were conventionally fully vaccinated, completely unvaccinated, or homeopathically 'vaccinated'. The results are pretty amazing - check out his website for more info:
Research Into Natural Immunisation

Making a decision about the best way to vaccinate your child is a very personal and difficult choice indeed. The best way is to weigh up the pros and cons and educate yourself on your options. I'm happy to discuss this further - either on this forum or at the BellyBelly Pregnancy Centre.

x Nicole