Babies Born December 1st ~ 15th 2008

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Okay I'll be first :)

Not sure how many of us will be in here, not many of us popped "on time".

I gave birth to Elise on the 12.12.08.
3.295 kg or 7lb4oz
51cms
and 33.5 head circ.

She has already gained back her birth weight and was 3.370 kgs last Saturday and she is developing a lovely double chin.

She's a good baby, doesn't cry unless she is hungry or needs a change etc, other than that she is contented, no hours of screaming so far like my first.
She seems to cluster feed between 7pm and midnight, every 1 - 2 hours but can go for a while during the day usually 3-4 hours sometimes more.
She loves a cuddle and won't go to sleep on her own, but I don't mind too much, I love to give her cuddles and they are only so nice and cuddly like this for such a short time.

I'm feeling extra happy today because the MIL has gone home after being here for 5 weeks. 1500k's is just the right distance ;)

That's about all from me.
Hopefully some other mummies pop in soon :)

I know Aimee isn't a december baby but hopefully no one will mind if I stick with the same group as my belly buddies

ll80- glad everything is going well, thank god your MIL has left Im sure it will be lovely to have some quiet family time (well mabye not quiet with a newborn)

At our 6 week check Aimee was 5kg (she was 3.12kg at birth) so over 400g gain in a week. She is in the 90th % for weight and 75th% for length and HC. not bad for 4 weeks early. I woke to AF this morning. Not fair I am exclusiveley bf have put up with mastitis and thrush only to get AF at 6 weeks after the birth. I have told Tony all I want for christmas is a new body lol

Aimee is waking up once overnight for a feed she normally feeds at 9ish,2am and 6am during the day she generally feeds 2-4hrly. She still has explosive poos and waits until her nappy is off, so I had the fun of scrubbing poo off the nursery wall saturday afternoom yuck

hope everyone is doing well

hello ladies! so glad i found this thread - good to see you two in here too, where is everyone else? only just starting to get back on bb myself, been in a wonderful baby daze and nothing else has mattered. It still doesnt ;) havent dusted my coffee table since she was born - usually this is done 2-3 times a week, but ATM i really dont give a damn!

Matisse is a homebirthed, cloth bummed, breastfeeding, sling worn, co sleeping little angel. So very proud :lol:

She was 3.72 kilos at birth, dropped to 3.52 in about 48 hours, then by 6 days after birth she was up to 3.9 kilos and get chubbier by the day. I think i'll get the midwife to weigh her again today, so curious!

Overnight she is just a dream, wakes once, no cries,has a feed then goes straight back to sleep in my arms, its so very lovely. During the day she has had a bit of colic and we now know she is a 3 burps kinda girl, BIG ONES!

ll80 - you are a strong woman hun, my MIL stays for about half an hour and thats enough!

sara - yummy poo wall - you should have taken photos, could have sold it as art!!

Hey there Ladies

Glad to see that we have ventured over to the other side.

Just back from getting miss porky chops weighed - she weighed 3.47kg's at birth 52cm length - today 18 days later she weighs a whopping 4.15kgs - we are feeding via bottle but I'm expressing and topping up with a little formula as my supply can't keep up with her demand - she takes at least 6-7 bottles of 120mls each day and I still pop her on the boob whenever she is grizzly.

She is a lovely little thing - so far (KNOCK ON WOOD!!) she is a content baby - very little seems to worry her - she has suffered from some colic also and we changed her formula and introduced some infacol and brauers colic relief and it seems to have done the trick.

Her jaundice is getting much better and I can finally see what colour she is - i know that sounds funny but she has been pumpkin colour for the entire time.

She won't sleep in her bassinet through the day but will happily sleep in the bouncer in the loudest part of the house - she seems to like the noise from her big brother - i on the other hand would happily donate him to a good home free of charge - he has just discovered how to be naughty and loud all at the same time - IT"S DOING MY HEAD IN!!

on the plus side - i used my sling today and she loved it - so it gave me free hands whilst up the shops - BJ has decided to become a runner!!

OK enough waffle - looking forward to catching up - in the mean time if I don't get back on before Xmas - have a very MERRY XMAS one and all and enjoy the special times with your families - hugs and kisses xx

Gee I wish Elise would sleep at night, last night she was awake every 1- 1 1/2 hrs for a feed. She would only take one side at a time before zonking out so I am sure that's why, she just wouldn't wake up for the other side so I gave up.
I was so out of it at one point I couldn't remember if I had just woken up, how many hours it had been lol I think I was also dreaming about feeding her, took me 5 minutes to wake up and figure out what the hell was happening.
Elise hasn't had any colic or reflux (touch wood) she is a champion burper, farter and pooer just like her daddy lol.

On a sadder note MIL might be here in three weeks again, god help me, with the SIL and her tribe of three boys for a few weeks. What can I say about that except :wtf:

Dianna Elise was a little jaundice as well, just today she is a nice pink and looking very pretty.

Sararose - LOL on the poo, DD was standing a bit close to the change table the other day getting a good look at how I change a nappy and Elise decided to do a good splatter, luckily her bum was pointed down at the time and it just went into the nappy underneath otherwise DD would have copped a face full.

Kitten - How you finding the cloth, I am finding it pretty easy not as much work as I thought it would be at all. I just ordered some CT's today cause DH is too unco to work out prefolds and covers.

ll80 - i am in love with my cloth, DH doesnt mind at all and they really are so nice on her bum. She has pretty much grown out of the NB ones now, more into smalls/one sized. Do you mean cushie tushies or cute tooshies? Good luck with the MIL

Dianna Q - sounds like she is putting on weight very nicely! we should inroduce our babies, we are both in sydney... is anyone else?

Cushie Tushies I think.
DH loves the cloth but miss elise wriggles and squirms to much for him to be able to get the prefold on and snappi it lol.
Elise has such a skinny waist and legs that i think I'll get another few weeks out of the NB, she is going to be long and skinny I think where as DD1 was more compact and chubby, roll on top of roll.

count me in Kitt3n - I'm up for a meet and greet any time you are.

Laura - WTF is with the family deciding to pop on over for a couple of weeks!! - you may or may not remember but my sister decided to do the same thing 3 days before my due date - it was all too much and I was soooooooooooo relieved to have my house back.

LOL about siblings being interested in the bowel movements - the other day Zahlia was doing a massive no.2 it took 3 nappies and 30 minutes for her to finish - but the funniest thing was that BJ was at her bum level encouraging her along - "you can do it Zahlia" - "you're such a pretty bubba" "Good Girl"- lol - in the mean time DH and I are trying not to wet ourselves with laughter

Hi all, hope you had excellent Christmas' mine was very quiet one which I really enjoyed.

Well I am tired, my 4 yr old has turned into a constant whinger, it's doing my head in. I try to be as patient as I can but when I am running on only a few hours of broken sleep there isn't much there. I am not sure if she is worse since Elise came along or if she seems worse cause I'm tired. DH thinks it's just me.

Miss Elise is well, she has been a bit windy today and yesterday but is generally good at farting it all out without too much complaint. She has been a little fussy in settling though, which is fair enough poor little tum gives her grief but once she has it all out she drops right off. Just means I am not getting much else done that I want to around the place, which I find frustrating but need to let go a bit, I can only do so much.

No real routine here yet, she is all over the place with her feeds my poor boobs don't know what's going on. Sometimes she will feed every 1-2 hours sometimes 3-4 and rarely 4-5 during the day. Last night she wouldn't settle til 5am after waking at 330 for a feed, then she did a champion fart and nodded off.

Can't wait til a few weeks hopefully she will sleep for some longer periods around that 6 week mark.

LOL Dianna kids say some funny things, DD says some really funny things sometimes, I wish I could remember them all.

So this is where we are all hiding!!

Merry Christmas all for yesterday. I hope everyone had a great day and Santa was kind!!

Update on how Lily is going, she is still sleeping between 6 and 8 hours straight a night, then she feeds and sleeps another 3 hours. It is wonderful. We had our first clinic visit on the 24th and she has put on 700grams, they said that normally they hope babies will put on 150 - 200 grams per week, well in 2 weeks ands 3 days from coming home from hospital she had put on 700grams - which is lots, they are very happy though, they couldnt believe how well she is doing and how placid she is, she just slept pretty much the whole visit and didnt cry once with all of her tests etc. I guess the hardest thing for me at this point in time is dealing with family. Normally it is ppl complaining about MIL insrtead it is mine that is the problem and trying to make life hard for us. Everything seems to be a huge competition as to who sees Lily most. Oh well, i keep trying to bite my touge......... have a funyy feeling i wont be able to for much longer.

Anyway, those who are going away have a safe and enjoyable holiday, and to everyone else, keep safe and enjoy everything. We are hopefully heading away for a couple of weeks......... very much looking forward to it.

Good night all, catch up soon with personals.

Hi ladies!
Yaay! i finally found you all! And have got some time to actually post!! Wow girls - your babies all sound like such good sleepers!! Is it a girl thing i wonder??!! Ochre sleeps well - just not long enough. He is only sleeping in 2-3 hour blocks still. He feeds (breastfed only) every 3 hours and it whacking on the weight gain now too. He did 500 grams in a week then 300grams the next 3 days. He's now graduated to crawler nappies too! Life is very busy with 3! I'm finding my second DS is affected most by ochres arrival...i just dont get the time to be with him like i used to. His big brother has been amazing though and keeps him entertained. Ochre has developed the lovely milk rash on his cheeks. Any of your babies got that yet? I'm loving the Brauers colic relief and Infants Friend too. Doesn't matter how many burps i get out of him though he still farts like a champion!! Where do your babies sleep in the day? I'm wondering if ochre has got his nights and days mixed up. Do you all wrap your babies for sleep time? I'd love for Ochre to sleep longer but i dont see it happening soon. since he has hit 5 weeks (the big growth spurt week) he is ravenous at the breast...his sucking has gotten a lot stronger and he is feeding 3 hourly in a 24 hour period. i have a wonder week coming up (week 6) and i 'wonder' what that will bring hehe. xx

Wow ladies I'm so jealous of your gobbly bubs! I could of said the same thing about Belle only a few days ago, but since then she has turned into a screaming, refusing to eat little monster! For the first 2 weeks she was a dream, eating and sleeping lots, but the last 3 days have been a nightmare. She latches on to the breast for a few sucks then pulls off screaming. She gets so worked up that feeding is impossible and I have to rock her to sleep. It's breaking my heart to see her so hungry but not eating. I have a dr appoint on Tues so I think I'll take her along to see if there's anything she can suggest.

I've tried the Brauers Colic Relief but it doesn't seem to work. Are you meant to give it to bubs before or after a feed?

claire - oh you poor thing! i know how frustrating and worrying that can be. i had the same problem with my second son. at about 8 days old he just started refusing to take the breast and i couldn't work out why. in the end we figured it out - he hated the Lansinoh nipple cream i was using. the minute i washed it off and presented him with a clean nipple he was back to feeding normally. i hope u find the answer soon hon. about the brauers im not sure - i have given it before, after and during a feed. if anyone knows if there is a 'proper' time to give it i'd also love to know xx

Laura our bubs must be on the same schedule, 2-3 hours is the most I get too.
No milk rash as yet here, I don't think Abby ever got one either.
During the day Elise either sleeps in the rocker or on someones chest lol she's a bit spoilt, depends on how much I have to do around the place and if I am looking for an excuse to get out of it :)
At night she was in the cot next to my side of the bed but she was waking every hour - hour and a half, wanting to be settled again, so I've ended up co sleeping since last night. Had the best night last night she fed at 11 then woke at 230am then again at 630 and then at 10am so I got a few good blocks of sleep, feeling a bit more human today.

Claire I'm not sure if there is a proper time to give it, I've given it to Elise twice, once just before a feed and the other time was about an hour after cause she was super windy. Such a hard thing to know what to do and very trying on the patience, I hope she is feeding better for you today.

Anthea I am very jealous of your 6-8 hours sleep, I hope she keeps it up for you.
Good Luck with your mum, I hope she comes to her senses soon.

I am going to take Elise to get weighed tomorrow, it's been over a week now and I am curious to see what she is up too in her measurements.

Hi hope everyone had a good christmas. We had a great day but very busy.

Clair- I normally give aimme the colic relief before a feed and the infacol too if she needs it. I hope Belle settles soon for you
Littlelalla- congrats on ochre's weight gain sounds like he is doing well. Aimee doesn't like having her arms trapped so I am no longer wrapping. I didn't wrap Jasmine for long either, I figure its easier to get them used to being unwrapped earlier rather than later.
Anthea- Lily sounds like she is doing well, I hope your family back off a bit.
ll80 - lol on your boobs not knowing what is going on, Its wonderful when Aimee sleeps a bit longer but I end up waking up in a puddle of milk.

Aimee slept from 11pm-7am not last night but the night before, it was wonderful. Last night was 10-30 to 3-30 then 8-30. She is doing a mad 3 hrs of cluster feeds in the evening that can be a bit wearing but the more often she feeds in the evening the longer she sleeps at night. She has a lovely milk rash at the moment not a good look. We are doing well feeds are becoming shorter and she settles more quickly afterwards. Aimee is almost out of her 000 clothes already, I have to go through all the 00 clothes and wash them this week. Aimee still does a big chuck after every feed so I am constantly washing bibs, clothes and sheets but she seems to be gaining weight and doing well despite all the spew. During the day Aimee sleeps wherever, generally in the portacot ( i am using it like aplaypen to protect her from dd1) or in her swing and night sleeps are in the bassinett in our room still. I cant believe she is over 6weeks old now, time flies so quickly. I think I will weigh her when we get the 2month vaccinations in a couple of weeks.

ll80 - wow that was a great sleep!! doesn't it feel amazing when they give you some nice big blocks of sleep. i think i'm about due for one - hopefully tonight!! ochre pretty much sleeps on his rocker or on someones chest during the day too. i put him in his cot for one block of sleep during the day though. i hear you on the co-sleeping. i tend to put ochre in bed with me after his 5am feed and he goes thru til 8 -9 ish am. i can get some sleep then too if the older DS's keep quiet!!! (not an easy thing when our loungeroom is right near our bedroom!)

sara- my gosh that was a fantastic sleep! how did your boobs go? mine would be GINORMOUS! ochre has just started chucking up after every feed too. i was starting to worry but now that you have mentioned aimee does it maybe it's just a normal thing for them to do. my other boys were not chuckers so it's new for me. i'm slowly learning to use a chuck cloth every time i burp him now - otherwise i end up with a big pool between my breasts or on my shoulders and all thru my hair :doh: eww!!!

My lovely little man is smiling and gooing at people now. It's so very cute and quite heart melting. I can now finally say 'it's not wind!'. Well, i better scoot. My DS 1 and DS 2 are staying at the grandparents for a few nights so i've managed to whip up a yummy chicken casserole and pavlova. And...even managed to post more than once on here today!! yaay!! xx

hey guys,

anyone's bubs a bit cross eyed at times? We have mastered the art of laying down to feed, nights and mornings are just lovely! had some supply issues, took some fenugreek and now i have 2x niagra falls again.

little l - awwwwww at the gooing! he is such a beautiful looking baby.

sara - wow, nearly out of 000's! need to see some pics!

ll80 - enjoy the co sleeping, i really do find it lovely, dont think i could rest if she was in the cot.

clair - i tend to give the brauers only if she is having difficulty getting up a burp, and then i only give her half the dose (ill give her the other half of the dose if she cant get a burp up after the other side)

but speaking of burps, what do you guys do if you just cant get one out? sometimes ill burp for 15 mins and still nothing, she falls asleep and then gets the most awful farts...... any ideas?

Does she sleep through the farts?
Elise does the same, the farts don't seem to bother her though, she just fusses a little in her sleep, farts then goes back into a deeper sleep, so I am not too worried.
It's more the burp wind pain that annoy Elise, if she can't burp that up then I'll give her the Braurs and she will usually do a huge Barney (simpsons) type burp within a few mins.
I do like the co sleeping as she sleeps better but I don't, I find I wake up more, maybe it's cause I don't move an inch and wake to move, I dunno, but at least I get a bit more sleep with her next to me, she snuggles right into me which is very sweet.

Sararose - so jealous of your sleep.
Elise slept from 1130 til 4am but then wouldn't settle until 530 or 6ish I think it was, blergh.....

LittleL - oh I bet that is gorgeous, Elise will sometimes smile and giggle in her sleep, it's very cute can't wait til she does it when awake.

kitt3n - yeah i have that a lot too. i pat ochre on the back for ages and rub up and down and nothing!! sometimes if i lay him down for a few seconds then put him back on my shoulder he manages to bring one up but that's not always the case. usually if this happens in the night i just end of putting him back into bed. i just don't have the energy in the middle of the night to be walking around patting and rubbing him for hours on end! oh and yes ochre goes cross eyed a lot too. he is having his 6 week check up this friday so i'll ask the doc about it.

ll80 - i will try the brauers trick you mentioned. might save me a heap of time in the night trying to bring up a burp!

Last night Ochre finally did a 4 hour block of sleep! :dance: he went down at 9.30pm and woke at 1.40am. now all i have to do is get myself to sleep when he does! And...stop eating chocolate! I'm sure that's affecting him at night as i cut it out yesterday and he slept better. Just have to get rid of all this Christmas chocolate - anyone want it?????

ahh so this is where you all are!! Hello!

Kitt3n- yep Mia is still pretty cross eyed at times, it looks really funny. I think its normal. Sometimes she doesnt burp either, I just put her to bed and then she usually vomits....oh well not much I can do, sometimes she doesnt vomit or burp.

Claire- you poor thing! Try infants friend, really works. Mia loves her food, shes a little pigy and always wants more milk, but I dont let her, because the health nurse said she should only be having 60-90ml each feed.

Sounds like everyone is doing really well. Mia is sleeping ok lately, goes down at 11 or 12 then up at maybe 3/4 then at 7ish. DH has been doing the 3/4 feed which is good. Last night she slept from 1-6am...then til 9.30. was great!

Littlealla- awww thats so sweet! Its hard to get Mia to crack a smile, shes a very serious baby, just like Mummy was! lol. She smiles heaps in her sleep though its sooo gorgeous.

So this is where you all are! I thought it was a bit rude they closed our forums down but I guess they had to. Glad to find you all again :)

Kitt3n - Maya does the whole cross-eyed thing a lot esp. when we are feeding her lol
Claire - I am using infants friend and have also tried the brauers wind drops. I changed to infants friend because its natural. Maya gets a lot of painful wind that makes her cry alot if I dont get it out. No issues with farts though - she is so loud!

littlealla - awww cute. Maya is still doing gas smiles and thats about it although I think she is looking at me more now.

Maya is sleeping about the same as she always has although we now wake her up to feed her about 30mins before we got to bed and then she tends to sleep until 4am and then wakes up again at 9am roughly. Although last night she slept from 9pm till 5am! awesome (nanny and pop were minding her and didnt get a lot of sleep me thinks lol) We tried to wake her at 10.30pm for a feed and she didnt wake at all even during her nappy change lol

No idea how much maya weights - we had her 6 week check and havnt had her weighted since. Not sure when we are supposed to take her back? an ideas? she was 4.5kg at 6 weeks but she must be over 5kg now. I still have her in newborn huggies as she is long but I think they are getting snug on her. I bought some of the baby beehind nappies but I think she is still too small for them.

Maya does the projectile vomit thing as well but not every feed and sometimes when she is still feeding she does it ie with bottle in mouth! crazy.

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I bought some of the baby beehind nappies but I think she is still too small for them.

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just a quick one - one handed typing!

but i have beenusing these on Matisse for about a week now mel, just take the big booster off the snaps and lay in half, in the nappy,fold down the front bit and use the big booster snaps to do the nappy up...... gosh does that make sense at all???!!!

Aimee has started smiling this week, just melts my heart. She decided to wake for a 4.30 feed this morning then not settle to 6.30, her birthday present to daddy lol, he was impressed (not). She had slept for 7hrs before hand though. I am over washing, doing at least 2 loads a day due to vomits and toilet training dd1, and Im using disposables! We have moved on from infant nappies to crawlers now. Tony wants takeaway for his b'day dinner, so no cooking tonight yay. I wish my supply would settle still get engorged at times my bb feel bruised and tender today. When Aimee has a long sleep I become a milk waterfall lol. It is so funny when Aimee farts she gets this blissed out look on her face and completely relaxes it is very cute

I had a bath last night with candles and used my bodyshop bath stuff I got from BIL for christmas. I lit candles, had a low alcohol champagne and some chocolate and read my book. I feel like a new woman it was nice to do something for me, Tony gave Aimee a bottle of EBM while i had time out.

We have booked a photographer from apple seed photography to come to the house and take some professional photos of Aimee and the family on the 11th of jan. She took photos when we had Jasmine and I was so haqppy with them. She posts them on her website when they have been taken and photo shopped, I will post the details when she is done. I can't wait last time she was here almost 4hrs and we could feed whenever and it was so relaxed. Anyone else getting professional photos?

kitten and ll Aimee won't burp sometimes but if I put her down without a burp she often gets hiccups which she hates and it takes foreve3r to settle her, very frustrating sometimes we use infacol drops to get up a burp but I don't like using it.
mel-cur - I was going to get Aimee weighed again when she has her 2month
vaccinations, not looking forwardv to that. Sounds like you are doing well we have been out of newborn nappies since about 5 weeks
ll80- we dont normally cosleep but when she won't settle and I bring her into our bed for a sleep I don't sleep as well and wake up stiff because I don't move so she only comes in the bed when I am too exhausted to stay up and try and settle her. The snuggling is really nice though

hope everyone is coping ok and looking after themselves
take care

Hi there all

still here - just in the land of wind and constipation - well grunting and crying to be precise - having a really $hite day - but taking my 5 minutes to do a post - although not a very positive one at that.

I'm off to see the paed tomorrow - Zahlia has all of a sudden become very unsettled - she was awake today from 8am or was that 6am and didn't go down until 3pm - all this yelling and grunting is doing my head in - i've got her on every remedy known to man kind so I'm hoping tomorrow will give me some answers that I haven't thought of through my sleep deprived fog.

I'll try and come back with some good news and a happy baby next time I promise - I think it's the formula - my boobs are not gving me enough milk so I have to top her up and now I'm having these issues - far out - only 8.5 weeks to go before she is 12 weeks - that's when all this stops right - lol - wish me luck :pray: - lucky for her she is cute :lol:

OH and in the mean time need to organise a birthday party for DS - lol

Hi Ladies,

Oh Dianna I know how you feel. I took Belle to the dr today who thinks she has reflux but I'm not so sure. I'm more inclined to think it's colic but either way neither goes away until usually 4 months - oh the joy! Atleast she is feeding well again - in between bouts of screams lol. Aah she's awake again - sorry better go! Will post again soon.

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just a quick one - one handed typing!

but i have been using these on Matisse for about a week now mel, just take the big booster off the snaps and lay in half, in the nappy,fold down the front bit and use the big booster snaps to do the nappy up...... gosh does that make sense at all???!!!

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I think i understand what you are getting at hehe. How many did you buy? I bought the fitted nappies x3 (plus 3 PUL covers and 3 wool) to try them out. I realise I will need a heap more if I want to use them. We change Maya ever time we feed here - do you do the same with cloth? That's a crazy amount of nappies to keep on hand...

DiannaQ - wow thats horrible, I am sore. Hope the GP can help you. Maybe its colic?

hi everyone

Had a good day today, 6 week check for me, had a pap smear, that HURT! Ive had heaps before and they have never hurt, but this one did, not sure why. Maybe it is tender down there on the cervix? He said my uterus is down to it's original size and cervix is closed. He also said I have a feeling we will see you again within 12 months for the next bub....YIKES! I dont think so! lol.

Is anyone else planning on having another soonish? As in the next year or 2?

Dianna- oh you poor thing how horrible for you and bubby. Does she just scream all day and holding wont help? i cant imagine, must be soooo draining.

Sara- oh that bath sounds delish, Im tempted to go have one now.....oh, but Mia is due for a feed...maybe after that. Great idea! Love the smiles, Mia did the biggest smile today, I had left her with DH while I went shopping for a couple of hours,and when I got home she smiled at me. It really melts your heart! awww.

Claire- whats happening with Belle- does she just scream alot?? Poor thing...and poor you!

I tried the dream feed last night,it worked well! I really wanted to go to bed, but knew she was due for a feed so I just got her out of bed in the dark and gave her a bottle, she drank it then went back to sleep. Im thinking BF is pretty much over now, hardly any milk and she is FF pretty much all the time. Its working for us, but Im sad I cant breastfeed.

good morning ladies,

must say (probably again?!) I am so happy co sleeping, Matisse goes down sometime between 9:30 - 10:30, kinda wakes for a feed (i pop the boobie in her mouth still laying down), get up to chnge her nappy if needed, then lay back down and she has the other boob, bit of a burp and we are all back to sleep, no cries. she farts in her sleep though, lots!

During the day is a different story though. I think she has an upset tummy at times, not colic but upset tummy? I think Brauers make a tummy relief thing too, might give that a go? She loves her sling, not to hot on the pram though ;)

skye - yeah i'd love to try for another in a year or so..... such a bg gap between dd1 and matisse, dont want that kinda gap again! my milk was kinda chilling out for a few days so I pumped after every feed and am now taking fenugreek, plenty of milk once again. So if you wanted to, maybe you could try that?

mel - yeah you do need quite a few, I have 7 baby beehind bamboos and one hemp (from the trial pack).... but i also have a dozen bum genius (bought on special before the price rise, dont think they are worth the new price tag!), 5 itti bitti's, 3 spunky butts (really love these), 3 magic alls, 2 panda baby, and a few others.... more in bigger sizes too! but i have bought almost all of them on really good specials so it hasnt cost me as much as you would think. I thoroughly reccomend itti's, i have a discount code for them which ends today if you are interested PM me! But yeah you need 2-3 dozen to use full time, its really not that hard, just one extra load of washing a day. Matisse hasnt had any sposies at all (:clap: to me LOL!)

claire - 4 months?! i am thinking Matisse has soemthing up too, our poor lil girls, I would take it all away for them if i could!

dianna - poor lil zahlia, I hope you get some answers from the paed and she manages to relax. GL planning ds's party too - how old is he? might just be easier to do one at lollypops?

sara - i would love to get some photos done, is it expensive? i think i would really love that, asap to get some NB nudie photos in DH's arms (i love those kinds of shots!!)

i'd love to get some cleaners in to give this place a once over, been so neglected, but oh the $$$$ :(

kittt3n - I think the cost was about $600 last time so a bit ex but it was worth it, we used our baby bonus money towards the photos. I think the brauers tummy one is from 6months but the colic relief says it should treat abdo pain and distenstion hope her tummy settles
skye- I tried a dreamfeed last night, didn't seem to make her sleep any longer and she did wake up during the feed but not fully awake iykwim, she settled a lot easier than normal though. I might try again tonight and see If I can get her to have both sides. we will probably try for another but I dont want to have any less than 2years between them but tony is afraid he is getting too old and doesn't want to wait until he is 40 lol I think a few months either way won't make a difference but he has a thing about being 40 with a newborn.
Dianna - I agree with kitten go somewhere for your ds birthday and let them organise, cater and clean up the party it would be worth the investment right now. I hope poor zahlia settles for you, those days are horrible. sometimes an extra bath helps settle Aimee, mabye you could try that until you get tinto the gp?
Clair glad to hear Belle is feeding again, the screaming breaks your heart but it can also be so frustrating too

I have been thinking about getting some photos of me breastfeeding during the photo session, but Im not sure that I would want to hang them on the wall lol, hmm. Deifiniely will get tony with Aimee without his shirt on, I also love those photos kitten

Hi ladies

Yay we are in a babies thread! I know mine are November but i am crashing the party anyway!

Julia & Owen are 7 week on Friday and growing fast, we had our 6 week check up last week and Owen was 4.9kg and Julia 4.2kg and both 58cm. Feeding every 2 - 3 hours during the day in this qld heat and 3 hours at night with one 5 hour stretch. Some wind issues with Julia and Owen managed to vomit all over me last night but apart from that all going well feeding. They are solely on formula feeding and weaning in 1 week was bloody hard work but much easier to bottle feed twins and have any hope of leaving the house! They seem to be doing well but i am really struggling to get Owen to sleep in the cot during the day, and now the cheeky monkeys are more aware they try and wake each other up which is starting to drive me crazy! We started getting smiles a couple of days ago and Julia is a real talker, mainly to Owen but starting to show more interest in me and DH now. Ok enough of my rambling i will do my best to keep up and post often :) Love hearing how all the beautiful babies are going.

Oh on the topic of having enother one i am trying to slowely open DH's mind we would love an oopsie baby but the thought of another 5 rounds of IVF and the possibility of more twins is slighly scary... especially for DH. Just loving being a mummy to these two for now :)

Happy New Year everyone

Shan

Hi ladies, I finally have access to the net again now that I'm home, and Jaycen is being an absolute angel. I know he was born on the 23rd, but it's nice to be able to talk to the same people as before instead of having to get to know a whole group of new people.

Jaycen is currently sleeping for around 5 hours at night, from 12-12:30 to 5-5:30. I haven't been able to breastfeed due to inverted nipples making it difficult for him to latch on, so I've been expressing and topping up with formula when he needs it.

He was almost 100 grams above his birthweight when I was allowed out of hospital on sunday, and he's developing a nice little double chin now.

I hope everyone else is getting some sleep and that all the babies are doing well.

Congratulations Jenna on the birth of Jaycen. He looks very cute in your facebook photos, love the camouflage beanie. Hope you are doing well, he looks like a big bubba. Did you do christmas in hospital?
Shannon- sounds like you have a very busy happy house at the moment, lol about them trying to wake each other up! Are they sleeping in the same cot?

seems today that at anyone time jasmine or aimee were crying, one would stop then the other would start. Tony is going to sleep in the back room tonight so I can have a sleep in tomorrow morning and he gets a good night sleep, would love to dtd sometime but by the time the kids are settled we are too tired lol, hopefully we will have a love life again one day ;)

SaraRose - Everyone keeps on saying he looks small, but he was in 3-0's right from the word go lol. He's definately a chubba-bubba though. I spent chirstmas in hospital after an emergency c-sec (his head was too big to get out). I wish I could have been home for christmas, but without the 8+ hours sleep I as getting while he was in the nursery I wouldn't have been able to cope when we did eventually get home.
He'll be getting weighed again on monday by the MCHN, so it will be interesting to see how much he has put on in the last week.
It's been a bit difficult coming to terms with the fact that I needed a c/s, as I had so wanted to have a vaginal birth, but I was told afterwards that my pelvis might be the wrong shape (I have to go in for x-rays after my 6 week check-up to find out if it is abnormally wider at the top than it is at the bottom or if it is a normal shape). If my pelvis is the wrong shape then I'll have to have a c/s next time too :(

Anyways, Jaycen is sleeping at the moment so I'm going to take advantage of the chance to have a small nap before he wakes up for his next feed.

Hi Everyone

I need to let it out. DS was born 12.12.08 3.89kg. He is 3 weeks today and has I have just finished having a cry. He has had all of 2 hours sleep today as well as being up between 2.30am and 4am, along with 5am to 6am. He seems to be up at around the same time every night (2.30-3am) with a belly ache trying to do a poo. He is formula fed and I am trying to find the right one. At the moment we are on Karicare, we've tried s26 the one with the omega 3. If we have no luck will try a different one again. He has just woken up screaming and in pain again after being down for 20 minutes which is the longest he has slept so far since 7am. I am trying Brauer Colic Relief but it is too soon to tell. I am also giving him small amounts of water but he seems to have alot of trouble pooing or at least that's how I see it. I would love any suggestions to help him.

Jenna - just saw the pics of jaycen - he is gorgeous!! wow he really whacked on the weight! did you have a c-section? hope you are recovering well at home now :)

sara - my dh has been sleeping in the spare room to try and get some sleep too (Ochre is soo noisy and apparently i'm still snoring!) but he just can't get a good solid sleep. So we are all a bit like zombies at the moment. i'm not even thinking of dtd any time soon. i aggravated my scar the other day and it's very sore so the thought of anything going near it makes me cringe! oh the bath sounded lovely! i def need some time out like that!

skye - oh u poor thing i can't believe your doc made u have a pap smear! my doc brought it up with me today and i was waiting for her to say she would do one but she said they do them at 3 months now. i wonder why u had to do it so early? there is no way they are getting that thing near me at the moment hehe!

kitt3n - i am doing a lot of co sleeping now too. ochre seems to sleep better on his tummy and close to me. he still wakes every 2 to 3 hours in the night but at least he goes to sleep a lot quicker. he does this extremely annoying grunting sound that just goes on and on when i put him in his cot...and i'm sure it's his way of getting into bed with me cos it just drives me crazy...cheeky lil thing!

shannon - wow u are doing such a great job - i can't imagine what life would be like with 2 ochres!! i was going to ask the same thing - do they sleep together?

I had Ochre's 6 week check up today. everything is going well - he's now 5.5kgs. i on the other hand have mastitis.....so now on antibiotics. i'm surprised i've lasted this long without getting it. my breast feels like someone has punched it and set it on fire! arrghh!! hope everyone had a great new years! xx

JMG - my little man's not the best sleeper either so i haven't got a lot of suggestions but a lot of people have luck with Infant's Friend as well. you can give brown sugar (1/2 teaspoon) mixed with 30ml of cooled boiled water, prior to or after feeds, 3 or 4 times per day, for a few days until a soft poo is passed. another thing you can do is a clockwise tummy massage. start at baby's lower right side of tummy (your left) and gently massage using circular motions, working your way up to just below the ribs, across the top of the tummy then back down the baby's left side of tummy (this follows the natural direction of the lower bowel). also you can help baby to bring his knees up to the tummy in a slow pumping action which may help facilitate a bowel motion. hope your little man gets some relief and sleep soon hon - take care xx

JMG- i have been using thr brauers and infacol wind drops, i think the wind drops work better than the brauers imo
littlelalla- mastitis, you poor thinh I don't think i have felt as ill as i did with mastitis. Do you have an oversupply with milk? I think that was my problem, i got it at 6 weeks too and even now if aimee goes over 5hrs between feeds i get rock hard lumpy boobs and have to massage and express a bit. I get nervous if they get lumpy. Hope you feel better soon i found hot and cold compresses and panadol helped

finally have a spare second to get on here and post, usually i get as far as reading.

having said that miss elise is very unsettled this evening, has some wind i think, taken me walking around the house patting her bum to fall asleep.

i have alot i want to type but not sure if she will let me

still havent made it to the mchn hopefully next week, she is porking up nicely though so i am not worried, more curious, god knows she feeds enough, it;s been mid 30's her all weeks and so she has been feeding about every 2 hours, even overnight, real killer for me.
Cooler today so she is getting back to normal, hopefully I can get more than an hour or two at a time tonight.

was so hot yesterday she went red like a beetroot all over, so we decided to go for a drive with the aircon in the car so she could have some relief.
DH decided that it would be a good idea to leave the upstairs windows open and the security doors locked but doors open. Well I said we should probably close them so we don't get robbed or if it stormed the house wont get wet, she'll be right he says.
Well it stormed all right, worst one we've had so far, hail, wind everything, I crapped myself driving home in it, couple of tree branches only just missed the car. We made it home safely to find that two rooms upstairs copped it and the carpets and curtains were soaking wet, and one room downstairs as well as the front entrance. They were soaked not just a little damp. Luckily we have a wet vacuum, DH vacuumed all the excess water out of the carpets and he had to wipe the walls down, covered in dirt from the fly screens. They are pretty much dry now but I had fun telling him" I told you so"
Elise was much happier for her time in the aircon too, poor little thing doesn't like the heat at all.

JMG - i hear ya on the no sleep, this past week I have been lucky to get about 4 hours a night if I am lucky, it really makes you emotional. My DD was born on the same day, I'm not sure what to suggest to help you though I've never forumla fed, hopefully LittleL's advice will help, I hope he sleeps for you soon.

Jenna - Congrats on your little man, try not to beat yourself up about the c/s, your both healthy and that really is the main thing, how they get here is all relative in the end.

Sararose - I know what you mean about one stopping and the other one starting, I am not sure whats worse elise trying to bring up her wind and crying or Abby whinging about anything and everything, enough to drive a person bonkers.

Shannon - LOL on the double trouble already, very cute though. Sounds like they are doing really well though, 7 weeks already, goes so quickly.

Who asked about having another one? I can't remember now.
DH mentioned to me the other day that he wants 4 now. I almost had a heart attack, I've always said I'm a three bag limit but he seems to think an even number is the way to go all of a sudden. I said well maybe we should stick with two. I would be happy with two, really will take me a while to feel like I could go through pregnancy and birth all over again, I really don't enjoy being pregnant, really takes it out of me.
He wants to have another one sooner rather than later too, I said well unless your going to pop out one yourself that won't happen. I need at least 2-3 yrs to forget about what being pg is like and how you don't get any sleep when they are newborns.
As for DTD who has the energy, plus I am not sure what the go is with my stitches yet, it's hard enough to psyche myself up to poo let alone DTD lol (charming thought huh heh)

Hiya to everyone else that I missed, I hope all those bubbas are letting you sleep.
The little lady is requesting an order of boobies...

Jenna- sounds like we had identical births! Mias head got stuck also, so had an emergency c sec..but I wasnt offered an xray I was just told Id need a c sec next time. Im pretty dissapointed, maybe I should push for further investigation??
Your little man is devine, I got teary looking at the pic just after the csec, brought back so many memories.
I also cant breast feed because of the nipples! We are very similar. I was expressing, and still am once a day, but to be honest it really is too much doing that, along with preparing all the bottles. (for me anyway)

JMG - You poor thing, I find infants friend works wonders. Mia was up last night with bad wind, but it really helped her poo and get rid of the wind.

ll80- that was me asking about the next one haha. DH said maybe in 10 years! And we only have the one....I dont think he realised how difficult it is. I think in 4 years though, Id like a big gap.
The storm sounds scary!

littlelalla- he said am I overdue for a pap and I said yes. I have had abnormal pap results in the past so I knew id better get one asap. I dont want to leave it too long unless it is abnormal pre cancerous cells again! Sorry about the mastitis, thats awful, hopeit clears soon!

Sara- Im hearing you. There is time to BD again, but only when she is asleep, and by then, Im craving sleep myself! So nothing going on here...yet. lol.

Well, Im off to settle Mia, today she self settled really well but tonight she is needing to be rocked. Im trying not to beat myself up about it and just go with the flow.