Just interested in what your bedtimes are for your kids? My boys are 7 (grade 1) and nearly 5 (kindergarten, not school). My eldest seems to want to stay up until at least 8pm, and this means his younger brother wants to do the same. I prefer them to go to bed at 7:30pm, which is much more manageable. But they both are "hungry" or "thirsty" etc, and will use any excuse to stay up later.
I'm a bit of a bedtime crazy, whereas their father is not, and neither are my parents.
Both my boys (aged nearly 6 and nearly 3) go to bed at 8pm. I used to try and put them to bed at 7:30pm, but they weren't tired enough and would muck around, be noisy and wake DD up . So it's just easier if they're in bed at 8pm .
I am having similar problems Divvy - and I am a bedtime crazy too so I'm finding it tough but I have had to relax it a bit lately for similar reasons to you and trish most nights is 7:30 (especially early in the week if the weekend has been big) with the occasional up to 8pm on weekends or if the youngest has had a sleep during the day (which only happens at the end of the week). The oldest copes with the 8pm ok but the youngest does not. I'm sort of now starting the bedtime routine at 7:30 rather than 7:15 so that they are getting in to bed that slightly bit later - is making a bit of difference.
Masterchef really mucked with our bedtimes cause they wanted to watch it and would hear the music as they were being shunted to bed
Mine are 7 and almost 5, too. School nights they are in bed at 7, we do readers (I do DD, DH does DS) then lights out at about 7.15 and we swap kiddies for a brief chat and cuddle. All teeth, toileting and drinks (very small water) are done before 7pm so there are no excuses!
That's on a school night... weekends are much more relaxed.
My DS1 who will be 7 in September is in bed by 7:30pm..we start him cleaning his teeth and going to the toilet by 7:15pm.
When he was 5 it was 7pm, that is now DS2's bedtime, he will be 4 in August. They sleep in the same room, so by the time DS1 gets to bed, DS2 is already asleep.
Weekends are more relaxed...DS2 still in bed by 7pm, DS1 can stay up until 8pm or so.
We also have water bottles by their beds at night.
Ok so DS2 aged 6 goes to bed at 7pm and DS1 aged almost 11 goes to bed at 7:30pm ive found if they go to bed after that time they take forever to go to sleep where as at those times they drop of easy. We do get the im thirsty ect ect so about 10mins before bed i say right its drink ,toilet bed
Bedtimes for 7 and nearly 5 year old.
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. So it's just easier if they're in bed at 8pm 
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