Yes, there was a should. Simply asking you to examine your reactions or in your words, "probing". Is that a more acceptable word to you :)?
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Yes, there was a should. Simply asking you to examine your reactions or in your words, "probing". Is that a more acceptable word to you :)?
I could very well examine my reaction. I have, and I'm pretty ok with the robustness of my logic and my defence of the naked form and it's normality, it's neutrality and it's lack of blame for moral corruption. Thanks, anyway :)
ETA: If the mother had KNOWN of the tail spin it would send Dianne into, THAT would be rude and inappropriate.
Mayaness, I don't think anyone has a problem with your view (at least, I dont) but in some instances your tone and choice of words could be mistaken for condescending and provocative. You may not intend this but in your efforts to be tolerant of the naked human body, you have been a little intolerant of Dianne's point of view.
You, and half the people on this forum may be totally fine with nudity, semi-nudity, whatever...but the other half may not be.
Exactly n2l.
^ that!:
The POV is not the problem I have - it's in expecting other people to know what that is without actually communicating it. We live in a world where covering up for 'decency' is not the social expectation anymore, and where we have healthier views about 'nudity'. Breastfeeding in public, for example. Or BFing is someone else's home. If I knew my host had a problem with it, I'd avoid their house. It's in the forewarning, or lack thereof.
Seriously enough! Move on people.
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But if they know Dianne and her family, then they should have some idea of what may or may not be ok to wear in her home.
And if they don't know Dianne and her family that well, they should make an effort to find out, or perhaps assume she should cover up more than usual the first time until they can suss it out.
Just because Dianne has a stance on what is acceptable dress in her home, doesn't mean she has to tell everyone before they come over - it goes both ways!!
Just like if I go somewhere and they are not comfortable with me breatstfeeding in front of them - if they have no problem, I'd feed in their company, but if they were uncomfortable I'd ask for a place I could go. I wouldn't stop going to a friend or family member's place just because of something like that. Just as its acceptable for me to have my own preferences and standards and expect people to respect it, I also have to respect their wishes (within reason) and not 'punish' them for not agreeing with me.
Bathers usually cover your bum. She sent her over with bathers (so acknowledging that's the done thing at Dianne's house) just that they were half-arsed ones, pardon the pun.
Tee hee, F ;)
You'd avoid a friends house because they didn't feel comfortable with your kids being naked? Respect for a different way of seeing things or bringing up kids goes both ways. I actually agree with most of the points you've made Mayaness but sorry you had to be so disrespectful in making them.
Mayaness since I nearly ruined a child's life maybe I need to clear some things up. I have nothing against nudity, if that's what you are into, fine. DD10 still undresses in front of her brothers, last night she was walking around without her top on. Soon when she starts puberty and develops I will not allow her to do that anymore because I would like to teach her modesty. I walk around the house in my nickers but I wouldn't wear a g-string in front of my children. To me it's like telling my DD to cross her legs when she is wearing a dress, heck, at school they need to wear bike shorts under their dresses. My initial reaction was to not let this little girl get embarassed, not about my DH and boys. Being already well developed for her age it could have been very awkward for her in what she was wearing, I didn't mind whilst in the pool but when they come inside to play, bending over etc. If I was going to put my family first I wouldn't have started this thread asking for advice.
Regards,
Dianne
So if it isn't about sexuality than how is it inappropriate?:
There are many reasons people feel uncomfortable with nudity apart from sexual reasons. It seems inappropriate to me because of the stage she is at, that by that age I expect some kind of awareness of privacy of your body. I'd be worried about what others might think if they saw the goings on, and I would be concerned that the child would be embarrassed if she were aware of how much was on display.:
My body is really private, and if it were on display, I'd feel it was inappropriate. Not because people might have sexual thoughts about me (ha!), but because something treasured and intimate and private to me was on display.
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