What is the "Limited Register"?

[Winter]

I've seen this heaps on breeders websites : Will only sell on the Limited Register.

So what is it & how do I get on it?

I'm looking for a labrador puppy in Perth....

[Netix]

I just googled your question and got this:

Dogs on the Limited Register are considered by their breeder to not be quite up to the standard that is required for showing or breeding. Quite often dogs sold as ?pets? will be registered on the Limited Register. It is possible to upgrade a dog from the Limited Register to the Main Register with the breeders consent (by way of signature) for a nominal cost as long as the application is made before the dog turns 3 years of age. The colour of the Registration Certificate is orange

[Winter]

Thanks so much! Here I was thinking it was a waiting list!! That I'd have to be registered!!

[CharlieBrownGirl]

My baby girlfriend, German Shorthaired Pointer (GSP) is limited registered.
Additionally to Netix's post, another difference between registered and limited is the price.

My girl is small for her breed, perhaps that is why she is only limited. I don't mind, I love her just the same.

With Labs (pretty sure the same goes for Golden R's) ask if the parents have been given the all clear medically for any hip problems. They should come with papers stating this as well.

Have fun with your new puppy

[Netix]

Waiting list! lol!

[Winter]

Yay, I'm so excited! I'm on a witing list for a puppy from a breeder! Sometime next year we're getting a yellow labrador girl puppy!!

[CharlieBrownGirl]

Congratulations! Hope you're little girl is a sweetie pie.

[Winter]

Thanks CharlieBrownGirl, is your dog also known as a "weimerainer"? I love those dogs, they're really beautiful.

[CharlieBrownGirl]

Weimerainer's are a different breed, but very similar to GSPs. My girl is solid liver (brown).

Puppies are so much fun. We thought that the naughties would finish up at 2 yo, but it took another 2 years for things to settle down and I could trust her with washing on the line and plants in the garden. The worst day was coming on a Monday after work to find all our hard work over the weekend scattered across the backyard, pretty much every plant we brought and planted. Not happy Jan! But all is forgiven

[1MOREPLZ]

limited register has NOTHING with determining price...it basically means they are not up to breed standard and are NOT to be bred from.
there usually is a price difference BUT not because they are on limited register it is because that particular dog is not up to standard.
for example....
my boxers...if i have a flashy show quality pup it will automatically be placed on the main register(if i soo choose to put it on the main register, i can place a dog that does meet standard on the limited register if i so wish) (so it can be shown/bred from) and i have a white boxer he will be placed on the limited register as his colour is considered a fault (can't be shown/bred from and does not meet standard)

It is the breeder choice as to wether the dog is placed on main/limited register and they will more than likely charge differently. They also have to provide all papers for dogs!!! they can't say 'oh for an extra $100 you can get his pedigree papers'

[Mildez]

I found when buying my last dog a pup on Main register was very hard to find. Main register is where they can be shown at dog shows and bred from so their pups (if bred to another main registered dog) can also be eligable for registration (either main or limited)
Limited register dogs can be bred from but their pups can not be registered.

I think the whole idea of limited registration is to still recognise the dog is pure but not of the standard you would wish for in a breeding prospect or show dog. Heaps of thing will make breeders deside weather they are limited or main register such as hernias, a good/bad mouth, colour, markings etc. Some dogs on limited rego are worthy of main registraton but for what ever reason the breeder has decided not to have it on main registration.

I found some breeders would not sell anything on main register (I guess out of fear of the new owners eventually breeding a better dog then them and winning in the show ring or fear that their dog which carries their stud name could jepodise their name or popularity if it was bred and produced not so outstanding pups which in their rego papers will carry their name also know as prefix)

You then find some breeders who are happy to offer everything on main register when some pups/dogs clearly are not true to type to their breed.

The difference in price is often nothing. Also I found alot of breeders who had bred an outstanding pup that was expected to do well in the show ring would not sell the pup to someone without a show history but rather to someone that can help the dog reach its full potential in the show ring (and get their stud name out there). These pups don't come up very often and usually when they do they keep them themselves or sell them to someone else in the dog show circuit.

So basically if you want to breed from your dog or show your dog then look hard and be prepared to pay a good price for one on main registration but if your after a companion, family pet/member etc then limited registration or no registration will get you a fantastic pet if not a better one as they generally aren't at as great a risk of some of the health problems the pedigrees are known to have/develop

[1MOREPLZ]

I found when buying my last dog a pup on Main register was very hard to find. Main register is where they can be shown at dog shows and bred from so their pups (if bred to another main registered dog) can also be eligable for registration (either main or limited)
Limited register dogs can be bred from but their pups can not be registered.

I think the whole idea of limited registration is to still recognise the dog is pure but not of the standard you would wish for in a breeding prospect or show dog. Heaps of thing will make breeders deside weather they are limited or main register such as hernias, a good/bad mouth, colour, markings etc. Some dogs on limited rego are worthy of main registraton but for what ever reason the breeder has decided not to have it on main registration.

I found some breeders would not sell anything on main register (I guess out of fear of the new owners eventually breeding a better dog then them and winning in the show ring or fear that their dog which carries their stud name could jepodise their name or popularity if it was bred and produced not so outstanding pups which in their rego papers will carry their name also know as prefix)

The difference in price is often nothing. Also I found alot of breeders who had bred an outstanding pup that was expected to do well in the show ring would not sell the pup to someone without a show history but rather to someone that can help the dog reach its full potential in the show ring (and get their stud name out there). These pups don't come up very often and usually when they do they keep them themselves or sell them to someone else in the dog show circuit.

So basically if you want to breed from your dog or show your dog then look hard and be prepared to pay a good price for one on main registration but if your after a companion, family pet/member etc then limited registration or no registration will get you a fantastic pet if not a better one as they generally aren't at as great a risk of some of the health problems the pedigrees are known to have/develop

you can be sued if you do this... and you are more than likely (if it is a reputable breeder) signing a contract stating you will get said dog de-sexed prior to recieving the limited register papers. OR pups on limited register will be de-sexed prior to going to new homes

you will only get a pup with NO registration from a back yard breeder or a very unethical breeder (who if found out by their state canine council will also be prosecuted)

often nothing??? the diference can be from $500 - $1000+

[Mildez]

Ok I hadn't ever heared of that (except of course if you did sign the contract saying you will desex the dog) it would be difficult to monitor something like that I would imagine unless you were promoting the bloodlines of the dog used in an ad trying to sell them or something or the breeder found out.

[Phteven]

AFAIK de-sexing contracts are pretty standard. it is very hard to enforce but understandably most breeders are concerned about dogs that they have bred with love and care falling into the hands of back-yard breeders or puppy farmers.
You are far less likely to get a great pet if it isn't eligible for registration because the health checks that most breeders perform certainly won't be done by a puppy farm or a back-yard breeder.

[CharlieBrownGirl]

WoW! I didn't know about de-sexing being as part of a 'contract' when purchasing a puppy from a breeder. We got our girl 6 years ago and it wasn't advised as part of the purchase. Needless to say, we de-sexed her for two reasons:
1. I didn't want any doggie having their way with her (responsible pet owner, not wanting to increase the supply of puppies)
2. She is an inside doggie and I didn't want monthly mess around the house.

Its wonderful that there is a wealth of information on BB, not just about babies