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thread: eat ,play, sleep, but dont babies sleep better if they are fed just before sleeping.

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    Jul 2009
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    eat ,play, sleep, but dont babies sleep better if they are fed just before sleeping.

    eat ,play, sleep, seems to be recommended
    baby is 6 months

    but my main question is
    dont babies sleep better if they are fed just before sleeping
    so if its been a while since he ate should i feed him also a bit just before sleep with the intention that that may help him sleep better,

    dont their stomaches get empty within an hour and they get hungry again so to wait 3 hours till after they play and sleep is quite a while and he may get hungry and maybe that will effect that he wont sleep as long as if he was topped up a bit before sleep?

    advice please.
    Last edited by sue1386; May 13th, 2010 at 08:27 AM.

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    My DS used to do that. He was younger, but thats how he worked. Feed, awake for an hour, sleep for an hour, feed, awake for an hour etc.
    My MCHN said the same, that the feeds should be making him groggy for sleep, but they didn't
    He did go to feeding to sleep after a while though. I think if baby is sleeping, then he's happy?

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    Mar 2009
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    I have recently started doing FPS with V and my and her life is soooo much more easier! I used to feed her to sleep but then as I was bf noone else could get her to sleep. After I almost lost the plot with fatigue I tried the FPS and for us it works well. V sleeps 3 times a day, is put in the cot awake and usually only grizzles for about 5 to 10 mins depending, sometimes she goes to sleep straight away. At night I still feed her to sleep when she lets me but is changing away from that of her own accord, still feeds to sleep on night feeds.

    I think she sleeps better as she gets all her burps and farts out while she plays and gets all tired and then can relax and sleep well.

    Good luck with whatever you decide

  4. #4
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    Mine used to feed, sleep, play. Whatever works for you is best

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    eat ,play, sleep, but dont babies sleep better if they are fed just before sleeping.

    I had to do the play feed sleep with dd1 as she would vomit if she moved to much after a feed, with dd2 we just swap and change and follow her cues it helps that she doesn't have to have milk to sleep it took lot to get dd1 out of that routine

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    Babies don't read the recommendations hun , and that's just what they are - guidelines, not hard and fast rules.
    My two have both been different - one did the feed play sleep thing, and the other had to be fed to go to sleep. Often they work out their own thing in their own time. Your bub is still so little.
    Whatever works for you guys.

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    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
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    Hey Sue! Is this your little one you are referring to?

    cheers xoxoxo

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    I think they encourage F-P-S so that baby isn't encouraged to fall into a pattern of falling asleep on the breast or bottle. However, if you ensure baby is awake during feedtime and then put baby to sleep I don't see why P-F-S is a bad idea. To be honest neither is feeding to sleep if it is necessary.

    I can't help you anecdotally as TBH I can't remember most of my child's first year of life but it is YOUR child and YOUR parenting... do what you find works for you. If you are doing it out of worry for baby getting a sleep association with breast or bottle - actively ensure baby is awake during a feed. You are doing a great job.

  9. #9
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    Oct 2008
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    My babies all did Sleep-Feed-Play-Feed-Sleep. I found they slept really well if I did that routine but they would often sleep so well and for so long they woke up hungry. I just made sure that I offered the same side for the second feed so that they were getting the hind milk and not just the sugary fore milk because that can give them bad habits for snacking. I have had problems with supply so that was really helpful to my milk.

    Once my babies are on solids, as DD2 is now, I tend to give her some solids when she first wakes up, let her play, and breastfeed her before her nap. It works for us. I just follow what my baby seems to want and we have happened to fall into that routine. Even with the S-F-P-F-S, it was all baby led. All three just happened to enjoy doing it the same way.

    FWIW, I stopped stressing about things like SFPS because I found it all confusing and some of the information can be very conflicting. I did try to do it at first because I was scared that letting them fall asleep while feeding was going to create bad sleeping habits or because I thought that I was doing it wrong. I have now got 3 kids and I just follow what my babies want to do. It hasn't affected the sleeping behaviours of my older kids to let them do whatever they want to do as babies, it just meant life was more pleasant for me because I could meet my babies' needs when they had them, rather than the stress of making them follow a routine they don't want to follow.

    I guess what I am saying is that FPS is not wrong if that is what your baby wants, but I think more important than anything else is just following your baby's lead. Do what you are comfortable with and if you want to feed your baby to sleep, you are not going to harm your baby in any way or cause problems for yourself down the track. It is okay to follow your baby's lead if that's what you want to do

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    Hi I didnt mean to be opinionated in my last post as for the first 6 months I was just letting V choose what happened..The only reason I changed things was daycare is coming up and I was just so tired..

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    Some babies can go four hours between feeds - DD fell into a regular, four hour feeding pattern at around 6mths. So we fell into FPS, but not through me actively trying, it just happened.

    Basically that is because she has never fed to sleep - maybe twice in her whole life? We have been BF since birth and she is now 15mths. So feeding just before sleep never worked for us, it might have made her sleepy sometimes but most of the time it was (and still is) like a tonic that wakes her up!

    I think you have to try a few things out and see what works for you and baby.

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    It really does depend on the baby.
    If you think your baby is better with F-P-F-S than go for it - it has to be aboout what works for you, not what other people tell you. We only know what has worked for us
    DS1 liked this and his day sleeping settled down once we move to feeed-play-feed-sleep

    DS2 is a lot more flexible sleep wise FPS or PFS both work wel for him.

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    Oct 2008
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    I only have 1 babies worth of experience to go from, but the general answer was no, my baby didn't necessarily sleep better directly after being fed. Her actual sleep was pretty much the same regardless of whether it had followed play or feeding. So we mostly did F-P-S. In fact she wasn't really very good at feeding to sleep (would go to sleep then wake up 5-10 minutes later) so even when she was going through a growth spurt and wanted F-P-F-S there would need to a bit of awake time between the feed and the sleep to ensure she stayed asleep. A bit weird but it worked so we did that.

    But as the others have said different babies have different preferences so there is no hard and fast rules, more like a variety of different strategies that you try out until you hit the one that works for you.

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    May 2010
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    my DS is also 6 months old but he has no idea of any routine. i am lucky that he will happily go about his day as long as he is occupied. a big day running errands and such, may be out and about for 5 6 hours and he wont eat the whole time. i will make time while i am out btu he is too distracted.

    i will admit i have tried the FPS but it really depends on his mood. he will on occasion try all at once. feeding is a game sometimes which involves spitting milk at me, then bang he is asleep. then i will go to put him down and the play begins all over again.
    i think it is most important to do whatever works for you. and try to read their cues more than anything.

    there are no such things as rules!

  15. #15

    Oct 2008
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    My baby has actually just put herself into the pattern of Feed - Play - Sleep in the last couple of days and I have to say, it is soooooo much easier to read her tired cues now that I am not feeding her to sleep. I was a bit confused as to what to be looking for and wondered how on earth I was going to get her to "self settle" and now that we are FPS-ing, she does self settle! It's really made things clearer for me and Evie seems to be happier in between feeding and sleeping. Don't get me wrong, I always offer her boobie before I put her down to sleep just in case she is hungry but so far she hasn't taken it.
    Sue xxx

  16. #16
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    Jun 2010
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    So far for me, baby sleeps well when fed, the p-f-s routine. But not that much or she'll be a needing 30 to 40 mins of rocking to sleep.

  17. #17
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    Oct 2007
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    i would just like my bub to sleep!!

  18. #18
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    Nov 2008
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    I know that this is a bit of an older thread, but while looking for some info just now, I found it and it was a question I wanted to ask.
    Problem for us with F - P - S is that if DD has a feed then a play, she can't do tummy time as she will have a chuck.
    But if we do P - F - S then she feeds (BF) to sleep - which now seems to be the only way to get her to sleep
    I am still struggling with finding a routine that works for us! help!

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