hes apparently 'working' now, will i see more cs?

[Butterfly Child]

(the title should say shouldn't i be seeing more cs?)

so xp txt me today saying he can't have dd on sunday now but will have her sat for the day( lucky i had no plans with her ) the reason being as he might have to work now..(i was like to myself, since when do you have a job) i havent said anything yet or asked about his 'job', if he is working, wouldnt it up my cs payments.. from the what $7.46 i get a week or not, unless hes getting paid cash in hand.. i mean where struggling as it is.. im not going to say anything i dont really want to start anything but i mean is this right ?

im not really familiar with the whole cs stuff. and to be honest i havent spent a dime i have gotten from him(for cs) ive put it in a savings account for her, but things are getting tighter financially and i wonder if he can really do this not to me but to his own daughter?

[Mildez]

I am not sure what your ex is like but mine has gone to every extreme not to pay a cent although he has been working most of the past 10years. If he is now working and its not cash in hand (as it can be hard to prove) then his payments for CS should increase provided he is earning more then he had before.

Are you electing for CS to collect the money on your behalf? As if you only have a private agreement then his payments will not go up. When circumstances change such a change in income the paying parent is suppose to notify CS within 2weeks. So if he is now working he should notify them to tell them his changes in income.

I have found my ex has never notified CS unless he isn't working so his payments (which I am yet to receive) are reduced. When his income has increased CS has not got wind of it until financial year and his income has been higher then the previous.

Good luck with it. Its very difficult struggling financially on your own.

[Butterfly Child]

it does make things very difficult especially when your trying to the best for you child
i just wish they new iykwim.. i mean xp doesnt no what things are llike with raising a child and the cost etc as he has never really been apart of it up untill recently.
that must be so tough you x doing that especially for 10 years so wrong!.. i have made it so the cs agency collects just to save all the drama.(mostly) i know he has in the past worked at festivals cash in hand jobs but i think hes finished his diploma of fitness and can work as a personal trainer now, so im guessing he'll be working on the books (Well id think anyway) i just wonder if ill be notified of payment changes or i wont who knows.. $13 a fortnight just isnt cutting it.i mean you cant even buy nappies to last that long really. sorry just having a vent really thanks heaps for your reply hun

[Oscar&Grouch]

Im feeling you hun! my poor excuse of a XP doesnt think he needs to pay child support because i work fulltime, his reasoning is why should he pay 'my' way through life.
pffft p!sses me off, half these men wouldnt know how much it costs to raise a child.
Hope it works out for you hun. xxx

[~clover~]

You could say you've heard he's working & ask them to do a review?
I'm not real sure how it works, they might just ask him for an estimate of what he thinks he'll make, & then go off what he says, but he might be honest.
If they are collecting for you, they can contact his employer & they'd pay csa instead of him paying you.

[Mildez]

Vent away. Yes $13 doesn't go far. My ex was suppose to give me $20 a month (private agreement based on a calculation of his income as an apprentice) well after over a year of not getting a cent from him I asked for $20 for some medice for DD he said I'd never get a red cent from him so I called CS to have his wages guarnished and they calculated him as needing to pay $400 a month. Still yet to receive that 8yrs on although its going up and up and up. Its now $40 a month (as his suppose to have DD every fortnight but doesn't as she refuses but as his willing CS counts it as he having her unless I spend so many tens of thousands to get a court order) Still not getting the $40 a month as apparently I'll spend it on myself. Now regardless of what kind of mother I am $40 a month will not raise her and leave any left over to spend on myself. Its such a laughing matter. And her school fees are $100 a fortnight. Its so ridiculous.

Anyhow I hope you get some more support with DD. It can be so difficult on your own. I am now married to someone else and have two incomes and its still difficult.

[sassy123]

how come some of you ladies arnt gettin money from CS.; i dont know much about it but my SIL was having so much trouble with me bro he refused to pay and she tried being nice and he just wouldnt do it so she called CS and now they just automatically take it out of his pay b4 he gets paid IYKWIM so how come this doesnt happen for you?

[briggsy's girl]

depends on his employer Sassy - not all are registered for garnishing wages

with the extra CS - if he is on newstart and is working a small amount to keep him under the newstart thresholds, he is still deemed to be very low income and will only pay the amount that he is registered to pay at the moment. sucks big time.

i would suggest you contact CSA and see if they will review his circumstances to see if you may get more now though - always better to ask than to assume you're entitled to no more

[BlackCat]

how come some of you ladies arnt gettin money from CS.; i dont know much about it but my SIL was having so much trouble with me bro he refused to pay and she tried being nice and he just wouldnt do it so she called CS and now they just automatically take it out of his pay b4 he gets paid IYKWIM so how come this doesnt happen for you?

As quoted by CSA to a friend, the father is paying a regular amount albeit not the full amount, which in their eyes is still an effort to meet his obligation and they will not go to his employer to garnish his wages where is it seen that he is making an effort to meet his obligation... Do with that information what you will

You could say you've heard he's working & ask them to do a review?
I'm not real sure how it works, they might just ask him for an estimate of what he thinks he'll make, & then go off what he says, but he might be honest.
If they are collecting for you, they can contact his employer & they'd pay csa instead of him paying you.

:yeahthat: In order for his CS obligation to be increased, he will need to provide them with an estimate of how much he is projected to earn. Until such time that he provides them with that estimate you will continue to receive your current assessment amount. As he has told you he is working you just need to call them from my understanding, and let them know that he is working and they will catch up with him. The new amount will take place only from when they are notified of the change. You may be get back paid at the end of the financial year for any indiscrepancies or sometimes it may not happen until reconciliation of your records, which occurs only after the original estimate date was reached the following year. Its all quite complicated. Call them and ask the question. And although he may guess that it was you that told them, they wont actually tell him that it was you that said anything for privacy and safety reasons.

[Inanna]

Hugs honey it does suck.

I would request a review of his ability to pay. He may then have to provide evidence of income and outgoings. I have recently done this as my ex on a wage of close to $150k cannot "afford" to repay his debt or pay the increase in CS at any more than $80 per month. I am in the position that my centrelink payments are very low due to what he is expected to pay in CS. So it sucks big time.

I am glad you are collecting through csa - this does make it easier. My advice would be to request a review.

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[briggsy's girl]

One interesting thing about child support is that it is delayed by a financial year, so if he has been earning $10k one year and then $200k the next, you have to wait for the *next* year after that to get increased payments.

you can request a review at any time due to changes in circumstances - if the paying parent was on 200k and dropped to 10k, they would alter it quickly otherwise they would be left in severe financial hardship - so it can be done in reverse if income goes up

[Inanna]

Yes I second that BG. So Rumpled elf I'd be on the phone!

[briggsy's girl]

And if you're getting child support don't expect the end of year FTA/FTB equalisation - for ALL your kids not just ones affected by CSA - to come in until your ex has done his tax.

just re-read this
unless it all changed while i was on mat leave, this is not the case. if you were seperated on june 30/july 1, then you are treated as single and your reconcilliation goes through based on the most recent estimate on file for your ex. if he does his tax later and you had overestimated you will get a further top up.

the only way you have to wait is if you are partnered on june 30/july 1. if you seperate on july 2 - you have to wait for him to do his taxes.

[deletedit]

This is what I've had every year for the last few years ... I do my tax, I get all my tax return except FTA reconciliation, then when he does his I get the extra FTA. Then I get assorted letters from CSA twiddling whatever child support I'm supposed to get, then a raft of Centrelink letters, yada yada. Before then he wasn't working so I got the standard $12 a fortnight or whatever it was back then. The system just does what it does, I don't query it.

We've been separated just over 10 years. And yes, my daughter is *under* 10, and yes, the math *does* work out.

I have no idea when his pay goes up and down as I've also had a restraining order on the man for the same 10 years and we don't speak (and believe me, even after all this time, with what he did at the time he did it I have no urge whatsoever to speak to him) - I have no idea what he does for a living - so there's no need to phone up and ask for a review.

[Lulu]

FWIW, asking for a review is pretty sucky. You are reviewed as well, and this information will be accessible to the other party. You have to provide REAMS of personal documentation. I took one look at the paperwork, noted that HE would be able to see it and chucked it in the bin.

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This is all reminding me that it is almost tax time and I'm probably going to have to see a *gasp* accountant this year ... I've been a landlady for 7 months on a house that turns a pretty healthy profit ... I have two businesses ... I made quite a decent amount of foreign income this financial year ... tax time is going to be FUN!

You don't want to know how many "extra" mod R's and mod F forms I have to fill in every time I need to deal with Centrelink ...