Cervical cancer vaccine

[Tinks]

DD brought her vaccination cards home from school today. I have to decide whether or not to allow her to have the cervical cancer one.

She's had all of her vaccinations since birth but this one worries me. I've heard so many bad reports on it.

What do i do?

[CrazyCat]

i'm not a doctor... but i do work for one.
I asked our nurse (who is PRO vaccines!) to do some research before i had my injection.... she came back and told me some of the ingredients in the vaccine and said not in a million years would she put that in her body. And she actually had cervical cancer 12 years ago!
So, i didnt get it......

I dont want to say do or dont....just incase there's someone with a different opinion... i dont want to start a debate!
That's just my story of why i said no.

[Bumperstump Cummerbund]

How old is she Tinks, 12/13? How would you feel about discussing it all with her, and letting her make the decision?

[Tinks]

She's 12. She doesn't want any needles lol. I'm making her have the hep one though.

NO I don't want a debate! I just feel uneasy about this vaccine and wondered if anyone here could tell me about it, good or bad.

[Bumperstump Cummerbund]

I looked at it when it came out, but it seemed too big a risk when it only potentially protects against one strain y'know?

[*LittleMissSummer*]

This is probably the only one i am really wary about. I'm not sure if i want my DD to have it.

[Queen]

DH and I have discussed this one many times (with two girls ourselves) and our two have had all the vaccinations also.
I myself had abnormal cervix cells, so when this came out I thought wow that *could* be awesome....but now as time has progressed, and more information has come to light, we are not getting the girls done.
I would say google, but that in itself is quite scary, maybe discuss with GP?
Good luck

[PumpkinZulu]

I wouldn't do it. Making sure she is well educated about std's and safe sex when she becomes sexually active (which I know you will) seems like a smarter alternative to me.

[~Lashes~]

i started to have it done, i had the first 2 shots, but didnt know i was utd with dd on the seccond dose, my doctor said she wouldnt have given it to me if we knew and that i couldnt have the third untill i found out if it was ok.
i hunted down the company who made it, and they said there is no studdies been done on its effects in pregnancey, so due to the "lack of knowledge" of its effects it was advised not to have the third dose untill a month after having bub. i never went back to have the third shot, as... well, if they dont have a great deal of research and knowledge on its effects in pregnancey, how can they have enough info to know it is safe for general use IYKWIM?

[PumpkinZulu]

if they dont have a great deal of research and knowledge on its effects in pregnancey, how can they have enough info to know it is safe for general use IYKWIM?

They don't, there are many findings that show it to have extremely adverse effects.

[*LittleMissSummer*]

They don't, there are many findings that show it to have extremely adverse effects.

which is exactly why my DD wont be having it. I will drill info on STI's and the importance of safe sex into her head when shes a teenager.

[Pretty Butterfly]

My DD wont be getting it this year like the others will be soon.

Haven't over 10 young girls died from the vaccine?

And i think out of about 10 strains, it may protect against one.... no where near enough for us to take the risk.

I generally dont vac my kids at all, but I also consented to the Hep B in high school for them. That semed a small risk for a very important vaccine, to me anyway. With so much contact, esp with sports, its one I wanted done.

[BellyBelly]

There are LOADS of threads in here about it, just run a search and you can read heaps without a debate

I would never put that stuff in my daughters body either with so little long term research and testing. It was rushed through way too fast. JMHO.

[RainbowBrite]

My DD had the vaccine.
I was 25 when I found out I had CIN3 and needed letz treatment to get rid of the cells before they turned to cancer.
I had been with the same man for 5 years had 3 babies, and had not been sexually promiscuous before that and if I did sleep with someone I always practiced safe sex.
The treatment I received on my cervix is the reason my babies have come earlier and earlier.
Safe sex and knowledge is not always enough...I consider if I can do something that may help her not go through what I did then I will do it.
She suffered no ill effects from the vaccine except a sore red lump at the site.
Almost everyone will have had HPV at some stage of their life but not all will turn to cancer.

[Trillian]

Tink,s the fact is, this vaccination is NOT a vaccine for cervical cancer. It is a vaccine for the HPV Virus (warts) which has been found to increase the RISK of cervical cancer. This is what ****s me the most about this vaccination because it is being marketed as something that is isn't.

[BellyBelly]

Awwww Trill, but Cervical Cancer sounds better!!!

And from memory, it doesnt cover you from the most common ones? Or the most dangerous ones, one of the two lol.

I have started a FB group with loads of info which some people have been helping me moderate cos I am so busy, but if you want articles: Seriously Concerned About Gardasil (Cervical Cancer Vaccine) | Facebook

[Trillian]

LOL Kelly, I bet the genius who came up with that marketing idea think's he's awesome - look at all the money he's made for the manufacturers

It's also the one vaccination where DH is 100% in aggreance with me that our girls wont be having it.

[Yeddi]

While cervical cancer is strongly related to the transmission of Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) even the National Cancer Institute says that, "direct causation has not been demonstrated”. There are even FDA documents that support this and that the link with cervical cancer and HPV is limited to the fact that those who get the cancer are then more vulnerable to other pathogens. Therefore the cervical cancer vaccine is based purely on untested assumption of what might cause the cancer.

This vaccine also has not been evaluated for it's own carcinogenic (cancer causing) potential. Clinical trial results however a fairly scary. The US National Cancer Institute website states that no one who received all three vaccine shots developed a HPV-16 infection. However, “twenty-two women in that group did develop cervical abnormalities that can lead to cancer”. By the way, these trails are done on women who have never been previously exposed to HPV, so if they've got it it's a pretty good bet they got it from the vaccine itself. The vaccine has been proven to be completely useless to women who have already been exposed to HPV and there is also evidence that Gardasil may increase the risk of precancerous cervical lesions by an alarming 44.6% in some women.

I think most vaccines are dodgy but this one, rotavirus and the hep b ones are at the very top of my list. Actually, that's not true. They're all at the top of my list, but this one's flaws are far more obvious.