thread: No success TT - NEED ADVICE!

  1. #1
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Sydney
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    No success TT - NEED ADVICE!

    We are TT DD (turned 3 in Nov) with no luck. We are on day 4 of wet floors and turtle poos. She doesn't seem to be getting it. I said if she does a pee on the potty she gets to choose a special star and if she does a poo on the potty she gets a start and a choc frog. She seems very keen on this but still no luck.

    We have tried sitting her on the loo and reading a story (or 3), having her sit there while we have a shower in the hope the water makes her pee, walking away while she is there in case she wants to go by herself, asking her every 10mins if she has to go (calmly and no pressure) - NOTHING WORKS.

    She just pee's on the ground and it doesn't seem to bother her. After she has an accident we make her wait until we get a towel then make her sit on the loo while we clean it up and discuss what happen.

    She still has day naps for about 2-3hrs so often does a poo and wee in pullups there. We are using undies normally.

    Please help. I need her trained before she starts pre-school in Feburary

  2. #2
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    Oct 2007
    Brissy
    2,208

    Hi there, its hard work isn't it!
    When TTing my two girls (they are 3 & almost 5 now) we used thepottytrainer method - which is essentially a 3-day training method - stay home for those days and concentrate soley on TTing.
    It starts with sitting on the potty (or toilet might be better in your case) every 25-30 mins. Make it fun and exciting - maybe do a special dance or put some potty music on!
    Then if she does something on there - lots of praise! We also used a reward chart with stickers, but I have heard of people using M&M's or some other special treat. By the third day you probably wont need to take her that frequently - she will start to go on her own when she needs to.
    Lots of positive reinforcement, and keep moving forward - dont go back to nappies!
    All the best

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
    11,633

    How stressful - especially with your deadline. Is there any way around it?
    The simple fact is this - if they're not ready, they're not ready. When they get it, they just get it and you're done, you know? My DS was in undies for months before he finally got it (and yes, wee and poo everywhere). I was just about to despair when, just after he turned 3, he just started asking for the toilet.
    I personally would not bother with rewards - she needs to want to go to the toilet because she wants to do that (if that makes sense). And to do that she first needs to be physically able to identify the signs that she needs to go.
    So I guess you need to first figure out if she knows when she needs to go - then help her from there.

  4. #4
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    Jul 2008
    summer street
    2,708

    I agree with madb about readiness...all kids are different and perhaps she isn't ready. Tbh the fact she still wees at nap time indicates she can't control her bladder yet. Dd was dry during naps and could hold for long periods before I started tt (and at two and a half could go twelve plus hours between toilet trips, day or night...which even I can't do!).

    I would try getting her to wear no pants for a period of time each day (ie when you're home) and tell her when she feels wee coming in her tummy to run to the toilet. I demonstrated this to dd, and for some reason the running and yelling wee wee was appealing then lots of praise etc.

    I would avoid treats and stickers until she gets the general idea, because it sounds like it's just confusing her, and she needs to understand the concept of holding until she is on the loo.

    Good luck!

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Jan 2006
    8,369

    Hate to say it - but I tried this with Liebling. Nothing worked. Even though he had bladder control, he just refused to go on the loo/potty.

    So we waited until he wanted to go on the loo, and even then it took a few months to sort out the poo issues. But that would be too late for you - unless you delay pre-school or find one that will accept a nappied child (DS was able to attend in nappies).

  6. #6
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    Sep 2008
    Adelaide
    3,201

    We just completed the 3 day potty training method with roaring success. I didn't want DS to wear nappies at night or naps as I know lots of kids will just hold it in knowing they are going to get a nappy at some point. I think using nappies some of the time doesn't actually encourage them to toilet train very effectively, as you are basically telling them that sometimes its ok to go to the toilet and sometimes its not - too confusing for a little one. Sounds like your little one is holding everything in until you put her in a pull up for sleeps. Go cold turkey - scary, but effective!
    I'd highly recommend this method (google), DS learned to use the toilet in 24 hours - had about 25 accidents the first day, 2 the second (wees) and none the third - we even went out and he told me he needed to wee and we went in a public restroom, and got out the pool and told me he needed to wee. He now takes himself off to the loo for #2s without a fuss. The first day was exhausting, I basically was right next to DS ALL day looking for signs of needing to loo, then we'd both make a dash for it, sometimes we made it, sometimes he at least finished on the toilet.
    Also - re making her sit on the toilet while you clean up - she may be seeing this as a 'punishment' of sorts for making a mess, you don't want to associate the toilet with punishment, it will make her even more reluctant to go. Perhaps just tell her that its yucky to make a mess in her pants or floor and remind her to go to the toilet the next time. Praise works better, little ones gobble it up and are more eager to please.
    HTHs

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Sydney
    503

    Thanks everyone. She finally did a pee last night on the potty (after she decided she wanted that instead of the toilet). Today we are starting fresh and have set a timer for every 20mins and then we run to her turtle potty and she has a sit for a while. She is holding it in atm so just playing the waiting game.

    I think you are right about naptimes and nappies so might keep her up today just to re-enforce the 20min thing. She also didn't poo yesterday so expecting two today and I just know she will do in during nap time!

  8. #8
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    Jan 2011
    133

    just a word of warning, my DD and DS hated being told they needed to go to the toilet/potty every hour, I couldn't imagine asking them to go every 20 mins. I ended up having 2 children that would totally refuse to go near the toilet which caused even more issues.

    With my DD, I left her completely butt naked and everywhere she went I put a potty. I would place it on the ground and without making too much of an issue I would just say "the potty is here if you need to do wees" If she moved outside, the potty went with us and I would repeat "the potty is here..." It only took a day for her to start looking for the potty.

    Good luck