thread: 4 year old boy 'overly sensitive'?

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    4 year old boy 'overly sensitive'?

    Can you please let me know about you experiences with your 4 year old boys. I am becoming aware that he is much more sensitive than his peers. And i'd like to intervene if it's possible.

    DS can hardly watch TV. He puts his hands over his ears and/or eyes and goes "na na na na" whenever he think something bad is going to happen, or especially if someone is going to get 'in trouble' or told off. This is Thomas the Tank engine, Octonauts or whatever. I think it's age appropriate. He will often run off into his room and hide, until he thinks the bad thing is over.

    DS told me that he wishes he could wear a blue t-shirt to kinder. He'd even like to wear a pink one. This is because although the uniform is not compulsory, the majority of the boys wear a blue t-shirt and ALL the girls wear the pink ones. DS got to pick his t-shirts before the kinder year started and he chose one green and one red. He has formed an opinion that he does not fit in because his t-shirt is different, and he doesn't want to be different. I spoke to his kinder teacher (who i think is wonderful) and she said she has never heard another child that age notice something like that - and then become upset by it. She said this is a indication more of this intelligence than anything, but i am worried that he feels left out simply by what he is wearing. He's too young for that kind of anxiety.

    Sometimes in music he will lose himself completely and sing and dance away, but often when his name gets mentioned (your turn to come up with an action, or cross the circle to sit with the teacher and play) he will grab my leg, hide and say 'no thank you'. Because he is polite, he gets away with it, but i want to push him.

    At kinder on wednesday all the kids had a small brown paper bag and they had all brought something 'red'. We were sick on monday, so he had no clue about what was going on and his little face looked puzzled and lost. The teacher had a bag for him with a red feather in it (which was very thoughtful of her) but I could see distress on his face. When it got to his turn to show the class what was in his bag he just looked at me and at the teacher and she kept saying what's in your bag - but he didn't know, and he knew damn well he hadn't put anything in the bag and was upset to be put on the spot, so to speak. I left soon after and the teacher told me that for the first time since the beginning of the year he was sad and cried a couple of times. She said she thought it was because when they said put your jacket on and go outside he went to his locker and his jacket wasn't there ('cos it was still in my car - the first time ever i forgot!). He knew we'd brought it and he got upset. But i think it started before the jacket incident - it started with the paper bag and the red things.

    I don't want a life of anxiety and lack of confidence for my boy. Is it too young to worry? (yes, ironic, i am worrying about my worrier). I also don't want to push him to do things that upset him or cause him anxiety.

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    I'm not sure Lenny. It's so hard to see our kids struggling with things. When reading your post though it really reminded me of this article I'd read recently. It may or may not help but I thought I'd share anyway in case

    The Light on the Flip Side by 'Hands Free Mama'

    Sometimes I write about letting go of daily distraction. Sometimes I write about grasping what matters. And sometimes I just sit down and write something that’s on my heart. Every time I do, someone out there writes to tell me that message was meant for him or her. Maybe today’s message is for you.
    I waited six years for this moment. It was the confirmation for which I yearned.
    My eight-year-old daughter’s small hand shook nervously as she held the microphone. Standing in front of a large audience, she described how she chose “The Girl With the Broken Smile” from an array of children in desperate need of education, friendship, and hope.
    She concluded her inspiring speech by adding, “You, too, can put a smile on the face of a heartbroken child like I did.”
    It was all I could do not to take the microphone from her hands and say, “There’s just one more thing.”
    And with conviction, I wanted to look into the eyes of every parent in the audience and say these words:
    Someday, maybe tomorrow, maybe a year from now, someone will tell you that your child has an issue, a problem, a weakness. Someone will tell you your child needs to be changed.
    But before you attempt to stifle that issue out, I beg you to look at the flip side. Take your child’s “problem” and look at it from the other side. With the right nurturing and encouragement, that weakness might turn into your child’s gift. And to deny it, alter it, or extinguish it could have tragic results.
    I know because someone once told me to change the very heart of the child who just stood here and told you how she is saving another person’s life.
    This is my story …
    My older daughter was nearly three at the time, her unique personality already beginning to take shape. She was an attentive caregiver of stuffed animals. She comforted other children when they got hurt. She was kind to all creatures, even the unsightly roly-poly bugs on the sidewalk. My child loved singing and dancing and coming to Miss Sue’s music class.
    Normally she stood up the entire class period laughing and smiling, but not on this particular day. On this day, her face was buried in the front of my shirt. She wasn’t crying, but she was hurt … sad … offended.
    Another child had aggressively grabbed the musical instrument she was playing from her hands. As I comforted her, I could feel a penetrating glare coming from the mother sitting next to me. She was a woman who I considered a friend.
    In a disapproving tone she chided, “All I can say is you need to toughen that child up.”
    And if that wasn’t enough, the woman then predicted a dismal future.
    “Because if you don’t toughen her up, she is going to have a VERY rough life ahead of her.”
    I drove home from music class admitting the fact that yes, my child did get her feelings hurt easily and yes, she was extremely tender hearted, but I saw something that woman did not. I saw the flip side of my child’s “weakness.”
    On the flip side of being overly sensitive and tender hearted I saw compassion, altruism, and kindness.
    I'll never forget the day I looked into those eyes and made my child a promise.

    And when we got home, I looked into my child’s big brown eyes that held so much promise and declared, “I will never ever ‘toughen you up.’ Mark my words. Someday, someday that tender heart inside you will be your gift.”
    Someday has arrived … six years later. Six years later, I have received confirmation – three signs of confirmation to be exact.
    When my daughter was asked to speak to our church congregation about her experience sponsoring a child through Compassion International, she was hesitant. She was so nervous at the thought of speaking in front of so many people that at first she said no. But after thinking about it awhile, she changed her mind. Knowing there would be thirty available children who needed to be paired with a sponsor, she said, “If I get up there and speak instead of an adult, I bet more people will sponsor a child.”
    And she was right.
    That was confirmation #1 that I did the right thing by rejecting the warning to “toughen her up.”
    A few days later, my daughter excitedly announced that she was going to receive an award at school. Her teacher described the reason she was being recognized to her like this: “You are always kind to everyone. It doesn’t matter who it is, you are always kind, caring, and helpful.”

    That was confirmation #2 that it had been a wise decision to nurture my child’s tender heart, rather than “toughen her up.”
    But it wasn’t until I was cleaning out my daughter’s backpack that the third and greatest confirmation was discovered.
    At the bottom of her book bag there was a speech she had written and recited to her class before being voted class president in a mock election.
    My daughter wrote:
    My name is Natalie. Here are some reasons you should vote for me. I am hard working. I am very kind. I take care of the animals and the plants. I have self-control. I am very brave and honest. I am caring and a little curious. I am very smart and fun. I make a good leader. I care about other people. I am so exided to be one of the class presitents. Please vote for me.
    I cried as I held that paper.
    I cried for every little boy whose parents are told he is too rambunctious, too inquisitive, too loud.
    I cried for every little girl who parents are told her head is in the clouds, that she is a daydreamer, and too much of a free spirit.
    I cried for every little boy whose parents are told he is too small, too weak, and too timid to ever play the game.
    I cried for every little girl whose parents are told she is too clumsy, too uncoordinated, too slow to ever succeed.
    I cried for the mother who was told her child needed to be toughened up and for ever year that mother waited for the moment she would know she had done the right thing by nurturing that tender heart.
    The moment was now.
    And there was cause for celebration. Not because I had been “right”. Oh no, there was something much more miraculous to celebrate.
    In the act of protecting, nurturing, and encouraging that overly sensitive heart at age three, my child’s gift had blossomed.
    And what was more important than the fact the world could see and appreciate her gift was the fact that she could see it herself … among the other gifts she possessed.
    I shudder to think if I had tried to change her, mold her into something she was not. What would I have destroyed in my beautiful child?
    I was certain she could have never written these words, her purpose, her future in clear legible letters.
    Herein lies the flip side to an overly sensitive heart – and it’s a beautiful sight to behold.

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    My DS gets very anxious about things sometimes. I had also wondered if it indicated an issue or not.
    Some kids have massive theatrical breakdowns about broken biscuits, so being upset about having the wrong shirt or missing out on an activity at school makes a lot more sense than that, really.
    In short, I don't really know.

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    The only thing I can suggest is talking through the reason for his anxiety in a logical way. I got that from my psychiatrist, because I've done it my entire life. I have a very clear memory of going home in the car from a party at 7 years old, thinking back over what had happened that night, and telling myself off and getting embarrassed at things I perceived as 'wrong' behaviour. It was nothing actually wrong, just stuff I thought was dorky. So I do believe that his behaviour could very well continue into adulthood, unless he learns to think it through logically now.

    For example -

    What is making him anxious? His red/green shirt.
    Why is it making him anxious? Because it's not the same as the other kids.
    Are they teasing him because he's different? No. (my assumption, or the teacher would've told you)
    Would he tease someone if they wore a black shirt, because they looked different? No.
    So what is there to be anxious about? Nothing.

    I'm not saying it's gonna work straight off, but maybe introducing that line of thinking whenever you notice he's getting upset will help him stop the anxiety. I did it myself yesterday, when my car broke down. I ended up sitting there for 3 hours, inconveniencing acquaintances and abandoning my uncle to walk home in the rain. Not that I could do anything about it - so there was no point getting upset and anxious. So I didn't.

    It's not easy, but hopefully learning young will make all the difference for him. Also, you're an awesome Mum for picking it up so early and being proactive about it - I think some people are just more prone to anxiety, and need to learn the coping skills early, and you're totally doing that for him

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    I do this with DS sometimes Keike. It's hit and miss. Sometimes it helps. Sometimes not. (mostly because he's four and has some strange perspectives sometimes).

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    Apparently anxiety about clothing is reasonably common. My DS has been wearing the same 3 pairs of pants for the last year and not much better for tops. He only wants to wear the clothes he is ''used to''. He is worried about what people would say if he wears something different. We have had a lady in who took some photos of him with his old and new clothes and she is going to make a social story for him about wearing the new ones. I wouldn't push it except that he starts school in 3 months and has to wear a uniform. I have tried the logic thing many times but it hasn't worked for us.

    Your DS does sound very sensitive though. My suggestion would be to get him the blue shirt, perhaps at this stage he just needs to fit in. He is only little, still plenty of time to find that inner beat to march to.

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    Our DD is an extremely sensitive child, and she has shown signs of this being part of her personality from a very young age. It does make things difficult for her at times but on the flipside it also makes her a beautiful child capable of great empathy and compassion for others. I try to resist the urge to try and 'fix' or change it and just accept her for who she is, but it is hard for me as a parent to watch her struggle at times. We just try and reassure her as much as we can, she responds really well when we explain everything to her in great detail. We communicate with her in a way (giving her lots of information & detail about things) that is probably beyond most children in her age group but it seems to be what she needs. I'm sure with your support he will find his way

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    only other suggestion I have might be a bit too old for him - it's when you take something to the extreme ...

    eg: upset because he doesn't want to wear the same coloured shirts: ask what the worst possible outcome is ... and then discuss whether that's actually all that bad ...

    but if it helps, there was a very sensitive girl at my primary school, who would get upset, cry or (on rare occasions) wet herself ... over things which I thought were stupid and small - doesn't know the answer to a question, someone threw the ball to her when she didn't want it, she was cutting along the dotted lines, and she cut through the little drawing of the scissors, etc.

    But by 6 or 7, she'd grown out of it. She was still a little quieter than average, but not unduly so.

    And now she's 31, a mum of 2, and a midwife, and a perfectly normal seeming woman And I'm sure your little man will grow out of this phase too, with your love and support

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    PN - DS is also very upset if he colours over the lines or can't cut things out well. He's not quiet though, you wouldn't call him quiet and shy really. I hope he grows out of it.

    MadB - thankfully he doesn't have theatrical breakdowns. He just goes quiet and sad/sullen. I agree that the things that seem to upset him make sense, but i am a bit sad that he is affected by them already - i didn't think it would happen yet.

    Heaven - i hesitate to say i want to toughen him up. I am just torn between wanting him to experience these things so that he sees they aren't so bad.

    Art - DH straight away also said, buy him a blue t-shirt, but i don't want to affirm his thoughts that clothes make a difference. I want him to wear the t-shirt and realise that kids will be his friends and he'll still have fun, regardless. Am i wrong? Maybe!

    Maybe2012 - i am also pretty careful to explain things to him that might be new, to give him a heads up.

    Keike - thanks for sharing. Made a lot of sense. Might try 'coping skills' with him. I think he struggles to say 'hey, i'm confused, what's going on, I need to know what is expected of me.'

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    I am sure he will

    And what I thought was stupid and small at age 5 I may now look at and think that that it's a valid and understandable concern, or that perhaps she's got issues with her standards on herself, or her desire to be included, or her wish to impress someone in particular ...

    With your son, naturally you're going to know him best, and probably be in the best position to make him comfortable and confident enough to confide in you about what is going on for him, which then will enable you to determine what (if anything) to do.


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    Would he be in for an experiment? Get a new blue t-shirt and (shameless extravagance) a new not-blue shirt and get him to wear both and see if there is a difference?
    As a kid i couldn't differentiate between reality and fantasy at all, and found a lot of stories upsetting. And the music that came with TV, etc made it much worse. I think it's about not being in control - if he had a thomas dvd and a remote and could pause it to take a deep breath when something might be going to happen, or to fast forward the fat controller being angry then he'd probably be OK, but he's smart enough to know it's coming and not quite smart enough to know that it's a kids' story so it will always work out OK in the end....

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    My son (almost 4) is extremely sensitive, also extremely intelligent and I think the two often go together.

    He can get scared of kids-tv, although he is much better now, we still have to fastforward a specific part of one of the Thomas movies, and there are other shows he won't watch.

    With ds I notice that if he has not had as much sleep as usual he is much more liable for something like that to happen. I sent him to kindy one day after a night of less-than-grand sleep because he seemed great that morning and I had a meeting with his teacher after school (regretted taking him almost as soon as I had done it) and apparently he had a big meltdown because he lost his bandaid.

    But when he is well-rested he is usually more robust and resilient than that.

    This is the same child that I remember sitting on his potty at age 2 bursting into tears because a piece of music was "so beautiful". He still does that at times (cry over music, not sit on the potty haha).

    They are still so so young too, y'know. I remember being in tears in grade 2 or 3 because some kid broke my favourite pencil, so unfortunately I suspect my son is not going to grow out of it anytime soon and that he probably gets it from me.

    Also, if it were me I'd get your ds the blue t-shirt. He can still have his choice in the morning of blue or green or red and you can still have the conversations about how it doesn't matter. I agree with the teacher that it sounds smart to even be aware of that detail, and why have him worried if there is an easy solution to that one?
    Last edited by smamfa; June 9th, 2012 at 12:40 AM.

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    my 5 year old DD sounds very similar. often times over the years she has lost it over the simplest of things. she needs to have things explained to her in detail if there is going to be a change of plans. she likes things to go the way she THINKS they are going to pan out. when she was a toddler i used to have to explain to her in detail that i was going to work when i dropped her off at day care. she would listen intently and calm down when i had explained. her day careres commented that she was the only child they had seen who actually listend so much and understood what i was saying to her.

    for a long time i couldnt understand why sometimes she would become upset at drop off times ( be that to kindy, ballet, kids parties, mothers group) and other times she would be fine. i eventually realised (as she grew and had language to tell me) that she doesnt like showing up to places when there are already a lot of people there. this means we have to be there about 5 mins early so she can slowly get used to the amount of people coming.

    over the years we have had nightmares, lip biting, headaches, emotional breakdowns over simple things all of which come and go. she tends to worry a lot about certain things. i dont know if she has an anxiety disorder of some kind but i do know that GPs, my parents, her teachers etc dont think there is a problem and that she seems to show all these anxious signs at home and not at school/kindy. she is outgoing, has heaps of friends etc so she isnt shy (most of the time).

    i also know that she has a realy really good memory, she is quite advanced with her school work, reached her milestones really quickly etc. i have been trying to get her into a resilency workshop which gives kids coping skills, techniques they can use to identify anxiousness behaviours and episodes coming on and skills to help them settle down etc. however, there is only one program i know of here that does that and they keep putting me off due to lack of numbers. it is a really frustrating thing to know deep down that my daughter could benefit from something like this but i am unable to find a suitable program.

    not sure if that was helpful to you at all, infact it probaby wasnt. sorry! :-) the only thing i would suggest is to trust yourself and to seek out some kind of resiliency program and if you find a good one let me know about it. :-)