What's your Flight 370 conspiracy theory?

**Floweryfields** · March 11th, 2014, 06:14 PM

Seen quite a bit of stuff coming out today.....

* why is the blackbox not emitting a signal
* flight paths changed on the radar website
* not wreckage anywhere (though if a plane was shot down, how does this aid that theory?)

So what do we think?

**Teeki** · March 11th, 2014, 06:23 PM

I don't have a conspiracy theory, I'm just very sad about the whole thing. I feel so much for the passengers families, they must feel so lost. I read that they've been able to ring mobiles so they were begging officials to track the signals before the batteries go flat.

There were also two infants on the flight

Whenever something like this happens I can't help but put myself in their shoes, what would I do if I was on a plane that was crashing with my babies? I hate that it makes me think like that, it's too awful

**Trillian** · March 11th, 2014, 06:42 PM

One word: Lost.

Seriously though, I think this whole thing is absolutely fascinating and TBH, I'm kinda looking forward to the Air Crash Investigations show they do on it. I have no real theory about it really. The plane could be anywhere. Re the black boxes, they would be transmitting, but you have to be near the plane to be able to detect it I would have thought. I do hope that because they haven't found anything yet, that there is a tiny, tiny chance of them being found OK.

**wysiwyg** · March 11th, 2014, 07:11 PM

Seriously though, I think this whole thing is absolutely fascinating and TBH, I'm kinda looking forward to the Air Crash Investigations show they do on it. I have no real theory about it really. The plane could be anywhere. Re the black boxes, they would be transmitting, but you have to be near the plane to be able to detect it I would have thought. I do hope that because they haven't found anything yet, that there is a tiny, tiny chance of them being found OK.

I agree, I was talking about it with DH - about how it is possible to lose something the size of a plane, he was saying he had watched some show about aeroplanes disappearing in the Bermuda Triangle, and apparently there is to do with a fault line in the earths crust where some gas bubbles up and causes all debris and whole planes to sink rapidly and be drawn into the fault line itself, and therefore never ever be discovered. Is called the Methane Bubbling effect apparently and on a site I was looking at it also said

"And if some really large bubbles of methane gas were to rise in the atmosphere and then get sucked into the engines of a jet, they could make a nasty explosion"

So Methane Bubbles causing the plane to crash and then sinking/disappearing the debris - is my theory. (Would think the area round there must have a few fault lines, underground volcanoes etc?)

**LimeSlice** · March 11th, 2014, 07:22 PM

One word: Lost.

Seriously though, I think this whole thing is absolutely fascinating and TBH, I'm kinda looking forward to the Air Crash Investigations show they do on it. I have no real theory about it really. The plane could be anywhere. Re the black boxes, they would be transmitting, but you have to be near the plane to be able to detect it I would have thought. I do hope that because they haven't found anything yet, that there is a tiny, tiny chance of them being found OK.

It's always the damn pitot tubes...

I am finding the whole thing very interesting, from an academic POV. I choose not to think about it emotionally, otherwise I would never get on a plane again, or put my daughter on one unaccompanied to visit her father.

**Phteven** · March 11th, 2014, 07:22 PM

It took them 2 years to find the Air France plane that went down near Brazil.
The ocean is a big place and a plane isn't very large

The thing with the passports freaks me out. You would think that with the ease of running checks on passport number through interpol that ll passports would be run through.
TBH I think it's probably just a co-incidence that the fake passport guys happened to be on a plane that crashed. I hope they can identify them so their families don't spend forever wondering where they are

**Miss.September** · March 11th, 2014, 07:23 PM

I was reading up on it today and the consensus is that black boxes should be scrapped. There was a plane that went down in the sea three years ago near France and it took them two years to recover the black box and by then, it was so damaged that they couldn't get anything from it. They have the technology to go live with pilots for each flight and that's what they should be doing.

I feel so sad about it and am trying to not get too involved in it. I keep hoping that somehow the plane with passengers safe will turn up. DH said that with the phones that are ringing, surely one has the find my iPhone app on it to track it! I just hope authorities are in fact doing everything they can and following every suggestion to track this plane down.

**Teeki** · March 11th, 2014, 07:30 PM

Apparently the tickets purchased for the stolen passports were pretty random, the guy buying them searched for the cheapest airfare and so it doesn't appear as though that particular flight was targeted for any reason. It doesn't seem very terrorising to me either - it is for the passengers and their families and friends, but it's not a big terrorism reach.

**briggsy's girl** · March 11th, 2014, 07:42 PM

watching the news tonight, there was mention that the tickets related to those passports had been linked to individuals from (a country with a name that is escaping me at this point) - but that the men were trying to get to germany to seek refuge. i have no idea how they came to that conclusion (i had DD talking at me) - i am guessing something to do with identifying them through security footage or something, perhaps someone has come forward... i honestly don't know - but it does seem to fit with the search for the cheapest flight that was mentioned in a previous comment

i am trying to stay distanced from it all of it - it's heartbreaking for the families not knowing what is going on - i can't imagine that feeling

**luna moth** · March 11th, 2014, 08:05 PM

Wormhole. It's the only plausible option. We're about to enter the next phase of civilisation.

A small part of my conscious mind thinks it possible. It kicks off a world of imagination though.

BG - I think at least one guy from Iran travelling on a stolen passport has been cleared of terrorist links, most likely an asylum seeker.

**~clover~** · March 11th, 2014, 08:35 PM

I've been interested, but trying not to be emotional about it also. My girls are supposed to fly with a cheap airline here in June, & that's the last thing I want to think about.

I know people are thinking a mid air explosion, but surely they'd have found some debris by now. Some are thinking a ditch landing (went down into the water), but that doesn't explain the ringing phones... if there is truth to that story... I'm thinking if there are phones ringing, that its on land somewhere. In that case there will possibly be survivors if they can find it... But if they're on land why was communication lost. The only way I think it could've just disappeared off radar was the explosion theory.

Its frustrating me that there is nothing at all at this stage, it most be so hard for the families...

**Astrolady** · March 11th, 2014, 08:39 PM

With the phones ringing, I read today that a technical person said it is normal when calling internationally for a phone to do a "fake" ring while the service provider searches for the phone.

Personally I think they're at the bottom of the ocean somewhere. They may have done a smooth landing on the water, well as smooth as it gets, and went down as a whole. Although a lot of plane piece are light and probably would have broken off anyway.

I would like to believe if they are on land at least one of 239 (or however many there was) would have got a call out by now if they were all alive.

**PumpkinZulu** · March 11th, 2014, 08:50 PM

I believe they are all gone. I don't hold out much hope for these sorts of things. Emotionally it breaks my heart, but academically I just can't know enough about it. Human nature I guess.

**wysiwyg** · March 11th, 2014, 08:59 PM

Personally I think they're at the bottom of the ocean somewhere. They may have done a smooth landing on the water, well as smooth as it gets, and went down as a whole.

Yes with the Methane bubbles a contributing factor - is no one interested in Methane Bubbles as the culprit? :-)

I find it interesting that 'we' have become totally fine with the risks involved in car transportation, but yet still are pretty wary of airplanes especially around events like this. After events like this people always worry about airplane travel, but after lots of car accidents (e.g. many fatalities over long weekend) we don't all start worrying about car travel. The statistics for air travel are much better.

"Some interesting statistics about air travel:

Fatality rate (commerical flight): 4.3 deaths per 1,000,000 flight hours
Odds of being killed in a single flight: 1 in 13.57 millon
Survival rate of crashes involving fatalities: 24%
Likelihood of dying in a car accident vs plane: 62 times more likely
Likelihood of dying in motorbike accident vs plane: 2178 times more likely"

**LimeSlice** · March 11th, 2014, 09:20 PM

I think that has something to do with a misplaced belief/hope/desperation/rationale that we are more in control in the car. We are already on the ground.
In a plane, 20,000 feet in the air, once that catastrophe happens, you are either in the middle of an ocean, or a fireball in the side of mountain... We are so totally without means of effecting our fate that it becomes much more scary a situation.

Of course, as you said, the reality of the probability is much different, but the mind is more powerful.

**Floweryfields** · March 11th, 2014, 10:04 PM

It is very sad and very fascinating all at the same time. I actually know someone who was close friends with 2 of the Aussies on the flight....I am doubtful of a hijack scenario as surely a number of people would have gotten a text off to someone at the very least. Whatever happened had to have been very unexpected and very quick.
I am very doubtful of them still being alive somewhere also, (though I want them to be), it just doesn't make any sense that a rather large plane could land somewhere and not be noticed - it's just so unlikely.
I think like that French flight years ago, they will find the plane eventually somewhere deep in the ocean.
I don't subscribe to the various theories of various countries shooting the plane down....but then I don't think politically.....

**AnyDream** · March 11th, 2014, 10:24 PM

I think they're looking in the wrong place. The search zones have been formulated based in the receipt of tracking data from the plane. There are assumptions about that data that have been made to extrapolate likely locations, but it's not clear whether the accuracy of the data has been adequately scrutinized.

Just saw a Malaysian dude on the telly saying they were even considering that it may have been engineered by someone trying to commit life insurance fraud. Really? WTF?

ETA - BG, I heard something about the fake passports being in relation to human trafficking, or escaping from a trafficked situation - ah, didn't hear it very well, but it does indicate there may be many other motivations & issues than are apparent at first glance

**Trillian** · March 12th, 2014, 09:30 AM

The news this morning said that both men were from Iran, but one of them was a 19yo who they believe was trying to get to his mother in Germany. It was just a coincidence that they were there on stolen passports. Now they are saying that the plane was 100's of km's off course because it was tracked for an hour after they said it was not being tracked. Too many stuff ups so far no one knows what the truth is right now. Such a bungled situation.

WYSIWYG, I buy your theory

at this point anything is possible/plausible. Luna Moth, I've just finished reading the Rho Ship trilogy and even someone who created a wormhole and just happened to suck the plane through it is not too far fetched to me LOL.