Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss April/May 2007

Hi Ladies,

Huge congrats Sarah, sending you loads of sticky vibes! I can't remember who said it, but just try and enjoy every second of this pregnancy, no matter what happens you have new life growing inside of you, cherish and enjoy it! I'm sure our bodies can feed off the positivity.

Sally - thanks for taking a look at my chart! I really am not sure what is going on. I'm pretty sure that I must have O'd between day 19 and 21 but I still have no coverline. My cycle varies from 30-37 days so it should be around then. I actually have a 16day luteal phase. We dtd every 2nd day from day 12 onwards, so hopefully we caught the eggie!

Satya - Get a new GP, it's so important to keep pushing for answers and if you dont feel you are getting them from your current GP, move on. Life is far to short to put up with delays like that. I hope things get sorted for you asap.

Sharon - good luck with the BD'ing, hope you catch the egg!

Alex - Hope you cycle sorts itself out! I've heard that it's quite normal to get + HPT's for quite a few weeks after D&C so I don't think it would be anything to worry about, probably best to get more blood tests done though, I know my GP was super careful to monitor my levels after the misscarriage until they were virtually nothing. She knew I wanted to try again asap, and I guess wanted to make sure I did not get confused!

Hi to everyone else, hope we start seeing more BFP's really soon!

love

Heybacko I don't think it was unreasonable of you to think that this cycle would be the same as other post baby/d&c cycles.
BekZ nice to see you, :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: for you, keep thinking positive thoughts.
nikilove hope you get your bfp this cycle.
*las* my O day has usually been around CD 21 but after D&C it seems to be coming a little earlier, or at least all my symptoms are starting earlier. Good luck with FS
missbelinda77 i hear you on the waiting, it sucks big time.
SallyJ I hated that movie (groundhog day) hope your O day doesn't get moved again, and as long as you have kept up your BD hopefully you will still have caught your eggie.
Leyla hope you get your bfp this cycle :crossfingers: for you.

As for me, my cm has turned watery, I did another OPK today and it was fainter than yesterday and since the day before I tested at 2.30 and yesterday I tested at 4.30, so maybe yesterday was my +ve but I missed the main surge or it still hasn't happened yet. Only time will tell i guess.

When I thought I was pregnant last month and came on this month I had mixed feelings. I am still wondering why I had a miscarriage it just hurt so bad and I am ttc but I am not charting just going with the flow. I hope it happens before my birthday in June but it will be nice to happen before Mothers day Im waiting I suppose to come on May 5 Im keeping my fingers crossed. The way I been feeling is weird using it a lot, cramping in the legs, breast hurting off and on,cramping in my stomach and a clear watery discharge. I wish everyone Luck on ttc sending lots of baby dust!!!!!!!!
a boy 20wks Jan 3,2007.
I miss him and love him soooooooooooooooooo much.

Leyla, your chart looks like mine did last month; all over the place. I was temping orally last month and have decided to go downstairs this month. So far my temps have been consistent.... but we are only on CD 10 so will wait and see.

Hello to everyone else this week.

I think I might have to get back on FF and restart a whole new chart when I now whats going on inside of me. I hav eno idea about cm differences...Ive had a bucket load in the last 2 1/2 weeks and its been whitish...what the hell does it mean? please someone educate me

nikilove - your post brought a tear to my eye - I am feeling very emotional lately. I hope you get your wish before your b'day too - & this cycle would be even better. Same goes for all you other lovely ladies - why any of us had to go through a m/c I don't know
but we will love our bubs all the more for the effort it took to get them. Hoe you are all having a wonderful day!

Hi everyone,

Maz - maybe you could check the help pages or the tutorial on FF to learn about cm. I'm certainly no expert I've just started charting and I'm finding it hard to determine the difference particularly the days following bding.


:doctor:

Sorry for no other personals and I think this might turn into a bit of a vent.

Well I'm on CD11 now and am stressing majorly as my DF is off from work sick. I am worried about him but I'm also concerned about missing our chance of conception this month. I know how insensitive that sounds but I can't help it. He's sick as with flu like symptoms and has been this way for two days. I even had to leave work today to come home and look after him and get him to the doctor. I'm annoyed about it because I feel like it's kinda self inflicted as he smoked way too much on the weekend (doesn't usually but he tends to smoke more around smoker friends) and now he has an infected throat. I've cut out so many things in order to get pg and he's carrying on like normal. He is now saying he will give up smoking again and eat healthier in an attempt to not get so sick (I think this is his third bout of flu so far this year, each time it's knocked him down like a ton of bricks).

I've had trouble charting my temps due to a heater being left on overnight one night (which resulted in me waking up roasting with a temp of 36.4 followed by one 5 minutes later of 36.1 after throwing the covers off & turning the heater off) and last night he was up and down all night and so was I. I took my temp at 4am (I didn't realise it was that early until after I took it) and it was 36.1 then when I took it at 7am (when I normally do) it was 36.4. I was of course snuggled up to a burning hot body prior to taking this temp so I have no clue what temp to use. I had one day of partial ferning, then a day of full ferning (yesterday) then partial ferning today so I'm thinking that I've either just O'd or am about to.

Does anyone know what it means on FF when you get a white dot in the temping chart area (as against the black ones)? I got that today and I tried to find what it meant and didn't have any luck. I've also got the green light so I'm pretty sure I must be quite fertile right now. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter unless he suddenly comes good & the bd'ing resumes. Wish me luck.

p.s. Apologies again for the long vent.

Good afternoon!

Bit of a me post today, saw my FS for follow up appointment!

Appointment went well, we chatted about how I was feeling, he was impressed my cycle was only 38 days, he thought it would be longer! We talked about what sort of cycle to do this time. He said he's been having some great success with Clomid/FET's and suggested we give that a try, given that I've had success with Clomid before (I conceived DS with our very last Clomid cycle), plus it gives him more control over my cycle, but allows my body to work naturally if we achieve another pregnancy, and without all the extra cost of Progynova and the progesterone pessaries. I did a natural FET last year and it was disasterous, so he thinks with the aid of Clomid, u/s every 2nd day and BT's (and a Trigger if needed), we should do ok, and not have to worry about fiddling with levels of progesterone pessaries. DH and I are ok with this, but I have to now wait for my GI specialist to give me the OK to take Clomid, because there are certain medications I can't take because of the Pancreas/liver issues. I can't even take Panadeine Forte or Codeine without it bringing on a mild attack. I did take Progynova without issue, so I'm hoping low dose (50mg) of Clomid will be ok, especially since it's only for 5 days...Progynova I had been taking for weeks!

Given GI man is ok, we can start this month (when AF turns up!). I'm hoping this will be ok. We thought we'd have to put it off until July (for financial reasons), this now makes it feasible to try again this month as we don't have the extra cost of the hormones.

Sorry again for the me post, will catch up with personals later :)

Hi guys,

Sarah - congrats! Hoping for a sticky one for you!!

mummyto1 - I hope you are going well.

las - great news from your FS appointment! I am so glad to hear that you can get to it this cycle rather than having to wait. You guys must be stoked to get that news. I hope your GI doctor clears it so you can get started asap!

Bekz - glad things are going well!

satya -so sorry to hear about your DP. I can totally understand you feeling the way you do, especially as his illness may be self-inflicted! The white dot on your chart is because for some reason your temp is not reliable this time (in your case, it sounds like it is because you woke up at a different time). It took me ages to figure that out when FF did it to me! I hope you still manage to get some BDing in! Even if you only BD on O day, you are still in with a chance, so maybe he will be feeling better soon. I hope so!

I am now 10DPO and just waiting waiting.... I can't do an HPT because of the injections I am on and I am scheduled for a BT in a week, so will find out then if I am pg or not. I am having symptoms (the usual - my bbs are killing me), but the drugs I am on can cause pg symptoms, so I am trying not to read too much into it. The thing is, I have been on the drugs for a week and a half, and wasn't having these particular symptoms until the last couple of days. I am not sure if that is because over time the drugs have built up to cause symptoms, or if they are true pg symptoms. I know that the drugs are supposed to have a short half life, which is why I need injections every three days, and I am due for one tonight, so you would think the symptoms would start to ease now just before the next shot is due, but they are worse today than they have been. Who knows, maybe I am reading too much into it. My last injection hurt soooo bad! I think he did something wrong, and I am dreading it tonight. You should see the mark on my tummy! And I am running out of places that haven't been jabbed yet!

Hi to everyone else.

Hi everyone

Not much to report here - 4dpo, had a temp spike today to 37.

Bun, hopefully all the injections will be worthwhile.

Satya, hear you on the frustration, hopefully DF comes good.

Las, glad your appt went well.

Maz, white cm sounds like creamy. It can be stretchy but not as stretchy as EWCM. Creamy means you are not really fertile, but could be...check out the FF tutorial.

Oh Bun - i have everything crossed for you babe. I have a really good feeling about this month Bun. Sending you heaps and heaps of babydust :hug:

maz like sally says, the white cm sounds like it is creamy cm and is what you usually get before you get the watery and/or eggwhite cm.
satya it would definitely suck big time with your DF being sick, but even more so because it is self inflicted, I think if it was me I would still be getting him to perform, since it is all his own fault, easier said than done though, I know. Hopefully he picks up enough to get some bd'ing in before O. Also you usually get a white dot on your chart if your temp is taken more than 30 mins either side of your normal temp time or if you have ticked the "sleep deprived" checkbox.
*las* I really hope that your next cycle goes well for you and you end up with a bfp it would be really frustrating wanting to TTC but not being able to afford the treatment you need. :crossfingers: for you.
Bun I have absolutely everything crossed for you, I do uncross them on the occaisions I need to though, but that is usually just briefly :lol: the shots sound like a real pain (literally) I hope that you get your bfp in a week, it must be so hard not reading into any of the symptoms you are having but like you said you would expect the symptoms to decrease at the end of each 3 day cycle, not get worse. good luck.
SallyJ nice temp jump you have there, lets hope it stays nice and high.

had a pretty big temp drop this morning, so I feel pretty confident that O is today or tomorrow, didn't get a bd in tonight, dh played golf and was too buggered, but he has been warned to conserve his energy for tomorrow night, and more than likely Friday night (but haven't told him about that one yet, i'll only notify him one bd at a time LOL). Still no +ve OPK though so feeling a little annoyed with them atm

thanks so much girls for all the info...it turned white a couple of days ago...just have to wait now I suppose.
I jsut need to get AF and know whats going on...its starting to driv eme nuts!!!!
Sorry for no personals - ive gotta take a little boy to his special need school and go do some shopping

Hey Maz

Kiwigirl (Rachel) has started a 'Waiting for AF after M/C or D&C Club thread!

I've got Titanium Membership!!! Wanna join for a while????

Luv Alex

Alex - MAUW im there NOW!

Sharon - good luck for this month! I know what you mean about the OPKs - I've been using them the last 3 months. The 1st month everything was good - got a positive on day 12 and Oed 2 days later. But the last 2 months I've got nothing - and no idea what's going on. Oh well, I guess I'll just try again this month with them.

Bun - I hope the injections work, I've got all my fingers crossed for you this month!

las - that's good news about your trip to the FS. All the best for this month!

satya - I hope your DF is feeling better really soon - what rotten luck for you :(

mummyto1 - hope everything is going well

Well I'm now on CD2 - AF arrived yesterday obviously :( What a bummer! I'm just getting to the stage where I've got no idea what's going on with my cycle anymore, and its really starting to p!$$ me off. I thought that after an early miscarriage that things would get back to normal pretty quickly??

In the 3 months that we have been TTC I haven't had a normal cycle :angry: . The 1st was a miscarriage definitely, the 2nd I'm certain was another (32 days) but didn't confirm it with a HPT, and this last cycle lasted for 28 days. My normal cycle is 24 days and was for months before we started to TTC so I don't know if I've had a chemical pregnancy this month or just a wierd cycle. I did a HPT on day 27 and it was neg, but I've had sore boobs for about a week (which I never get) still have them on CD2. This is really driving me nuts - I'm just about over all of this TTC business! And it's still another week until my appointment to see my OB - God only knows what he'll say about it all!

Anyway, sorry about the vent, hope everyone else is doing well.

Hi Ladies,

Salt - I so hope that the clot is gone soon. I think the worst thing about TTC is the waiting factor! Strange how we seem to see glam pg women and beautiful babies everywhere as well!

Bun - I think we are all hanging out for your results next week! I truly hope that this month is your month.

Megsmum - Stupid AF!! Hope your cycle sorts itself out soon.

Satya - I would be pretty annoyed with my DH too! Hope he lives up to his end of the bargain and you catch the eggie.

Jenjams - I totally planned to temp 'downstairs' this month, but just kept forgetting! FF finally gave me a coverline - unbroken too - which it has not done before. I really don't know what was going on as I have been really good with temping and last month seemed to go really well. Oh well, I guess my body just has a mind of it's own. I hope that your chart goes better this month, I'll be keeping an eye it to see if downstairs temps make a difference.

Sharon - I'm with you on the OPK's. I've used them over 4 months now. First 2 it worked perfectly, and the last 2 I never really got a full positive. I decided this time to just list the 'most' positive one as a positive on FF as I am guessing I just missed the peak surge. Very annoying though, cause it cost to much to test twice a day when you have a long cycle with an unpredictably O day.

Big hello to everyone else. Hope things are going well.

love

Salt - yay for you! Glad the clot has gone and you can get on with it. I have the same problem with OPKs and have decided to ditch them - first I used the darkest negative as a positve, then I deleted all the info because it wasn't certain. FF put me back a day.

Still getting this weird cm, it can't be EWCM so maybe it's "rubber cement" creamy? I only get it if I check internally.

Yay Salt!!! That is fab news... sounds like this month might be your month! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.:dance:

Hi everyone,

Sharon - thanks for the FF info. I had checked the sleep deprived box & did again this morning even though I took the temp at the normal time & now I have two white boxes.

Bun - thanks also for the FF info. Try not to think anything of your symptoms. As you say they could be caused by the drugs. Just think what a nice surprise it would be to get a BFP with the blood tests if you are thinking that you are not pg.

megsmum - sorry about AF arriving. Although you may not have had sore BBs before AF normally you may find that you will get them for a while. Premenstrual symptoms can change over the years so you can get new symptoms and others can drop off. I find I get certain things for maybe a few years and then they evolve in to a different pattern so that may be all that was.

Salt - glad the clot has finally gone. I'm with you on the pregnant women. I see them everywhere I go. I am so envious of them. I want that big bump.

:)

Well I'm CD12 today and it looks like DF is on the mend. I just may get some action tonight. I don't think I've O'd yet as my temp hasn't raised yet. I normally have a 28 day cycle (although I have had a couple of 21 day ones in the last year) so I'm thinking O is about to happen in the next couple of days.

Just caught Salt's great news!!!!
Sending you :bluedust: (for some reason, can't find the pink dust but sending that too!!!)

Alex
xxx

Hi everyone!
I was wanting to ask a question in regards to your first AF after D&C/Miscarriage. I got my first AF 4 and a half weeks after my D&C and it was light to what I used to get and it only lasted 4days. The thing is that on CD8 and 9 I had a little spotting only when I wiped and it was mixed in stretchy CM and I also had slight cramps. My question is that is this normal to have some spotting after AF is over as I never had any prior to the D&C so I am totally confused so if anyone at all can help PLEASE!

Thanks heaps Salt! I just hate all the waiting and wondering. I even did some ovulation tests to see if the spotting was due to that as I read somewhere that you can spot during ovulation but the test was negative. At least I know now I am not the only one!
Thanks again

SP - Fantastic news!!! Sooo glad that pesky clot is gone!

I got the all clear to use Clomid, so we are all set :dance: Never been so looking forward to getting AF :)

Salt Yay that clot is gone

Las goodluck BDing this month hope you catch that egg

Bun fingers crossed for your BT hope you are properly UP THE DUFF

Well as for me I got a referral to one of our specialist OB's here at work so I am just waiting for her to send an appt time out for me. I am only today late for AF so I'm still not sure this is going to stick and I dont think I could handle another M/C so am super stressed and keep having bouts of panic and tears thinking about it all specially since the nausea has all but gone and no other symptoms at all.

Salt - so glad to hear the clot is gone!!! You must be so happy to hear that news. It is about time your luck changed. Now you are on your way!!! I see beautiful pg women everywhere too, usually I have seen at leat one before I even get into work in the morning!

Sarah - I am glad you are getting an appointment with a specialist OB. It is so hard not to worry but remember, each pregnancy is different and has nothing to do with previous ones, so there is no reason that this one will not end up with a healthy and happy bub. This is such a stressful time for you, and I am thinking of you. Most people don't have symptoms at all this early, so try not to worry about that.

las - that's great news that you got the all-clear to try clomid! Best of luck!

satya - glad to hear DF is on the mend, and before O so good timing! Good luck!

Leyla - congrats on your coverline!

megsmum - my cycle was a bit weird after a m/c too, hopefully it will start to straighten itself out soon! It is so frustrating!

Sharon - I use the same tactic with DH - I don't want to overwhelm him, so don't tell him what I expect beforehand! Good luck!

Rae - thank you so much for your kind words. You really are the most beautiful person to pop in and send some babydust. I read your journal and have been following your progress (sorry I don't write anything, but I get a bit sad sometimes thinking that my bub should have been due on the same day, but please know that I am always thinking of you). Not long to go now and you will be meeting Tia! So glad to hear things are going so well.

Well, I still have all the pg symptoms I usually get but am trying not to read anything into it. I am just so scared that even if the problem has been fixed with the injections, there is always a chance ot m/c, like if it is a bad egg or sperm, or doesn't implant right, or the chromosomes don't match up properly, so it could still not work out, and I don't know if I can go through that again. I am also p***** at my dr as I received the bill last night. If everything works out, I certainly don't mind how much I pay out, but I am just annoyed that he wouldn't give me clomid until I had an appointment with him, but then at my appointment it was too late in my cycle for clomid, but he gave me a script for it for next cycle anyway, in case I need it, but told me nothing about it and in fact barely spoke to me at all, he just left me with the nurses. So now, because it was too late for clomid, I am on hugely expensive hormones and have to be injected every three days, when clomid would have cost a fraction of the cost, not involved injecting, and would have done exactly the same thing if he could just have given it to me when I asked for it! Grrrr....

Anyway, I am just plugging along and waiting for my BT next Tues. In a way I am hoping for time to go slowly because I am so scared of whatever the outcome will be. If they say I am pg, that is when the terror sets in, but if they say I am not pg, I will be sad too. I hate this!!!!

i got los tin transit......
SP - fantastic news that the clot is gone...all steam ahead.
i hope that this thread empties out a bit in the next 2 months...
BRING ON THE 2008 BABIES!!!!!
Flowerchild - YAY honey im so wrapped for you

Hi everyone,

Bun - you poor thing. Obviously the doctors bill came as a shock to you. I'm very annoyed at how expensive fertility treatment is. How about the government stop throwing baby bonuses at people who just pop out babies with minimal effort and fund fertility treatment for those of us who are having difficulties. It would be bound to increase the population. OMG that sounds so bitter doesn't it. Sorry if I just offended anyone. I'm sure the injections must be far better than just taking clomid so don't worry about skipping that step, and clomid makes many women moody so you aren't missing anything there. I'm sure you will have a successful pg soon.... fingers crossed it will happen this month.

:)

I'm pretty sure I O'd today - CD13 - my skin has broken out, I had a higher temp and I had cramps last night then lower back pain this morning. Just as well I got lucky last night... my DF's illness had improved just enough for us to manage it.

Sorry no time for other personals. I hope everyone is doing well.

Hi Ladies,

I have only quickly skim read the posts and I have probably missed heaps.

SP - Good to hear about your clot going away. Fingers crossed for TTC this month, I hope to see a +ve very soon.

Sharon - How are you going hon?

Bun - Good luck for Tuesday. I have been thinking about you.

Hello to Leyla, Satya, Las, Heybacko, Herbie and everybody else.

I am doing ok, still not really wanting to accept that I am really pregnant just in case, but keeping positive at the same time iykwim.

I have just realised that my big personals post I did yesterday has disappeard, grrrrrrrr. Oh well, will try and do them again, but I apologise to anyone I miss

megsmum got a +ve (not a true one though) yesterday and had some excellent EWCM so I am pretty certain that I am 1 dpo today. It really is horrible when our bodies do what they like, and it is definitely stressful, hang in there, and hopefully your OB will be able to put your mind at ease.
saltprincess think I am going to have to do a lot of sweet talking to DH tonight, I only JUST managed to convince him on Wed night LOL. I seem to notice a lot more pg women too and feel so jealous. Fantastic news about the clot being gone, fingers crossed that you end up with your +ve this cycle.
Leyla I am completely over the OPK's, and if i'm not pg this cycle, I really don't think I will bother with them any more. Great news about the coverline too.
SallyJ I only ever get internal CM, it is very very very rare for me to get any when I wipe.
satya Hope you managed to get some BD action before O (just read ahead and found out you did :D ) lets hope you caught that egg. Oh, just realised, I am certain that I O'd yesterday too, so that will make us cycle buddies.
*las* hope the clomid works for you first go, good luck
sarah066 glad to hear that you have got an appt with an OB, and I am sending you a heap of sticky vibes.
Bun I am getting so excited for you (and nervous for you too) I really do hope that all the injections pay off for you and they weren't for nothing, it is complete daylight robbery the amount of money some of these OB's/FS charge. I have everything crossed for you for Tuesday.
BekZ hi, thanks for popping in, i'm doing ok, managed to BD 3 days before, and the day before O so lets hope we caught the :egg: it must be hard trying not to worry, but I know that I will be worrying with my next pg. You had bleeding with your other M/C's didn't you?

As for me, I am fairly certain that I O'd yesterday, got some great EWCM just hope that dh's spermies found their way to my egg since we only BD 3 days before and the day before O. Please, everyone keep reminding me that I said I wasn't going to test until 14dpo because I know that I am going to get the urge well before then LOL

Hi everyone,

Salt - great idea about the positive visualisations. I hope that goes well for you.

Sharon - it will be great to have u as a cycle buddy.

Bekz - with all the positive vibes being sent your way everything is sure to go well this time.

:)

I'm feeling really positive about this cycle. Yesterday I saw two rainbows and I think this is a great omen seeing that I think I O'd yesterday & my ticker is a rainbow. We don't see too many rainbows around Melbourne these days due to lack of rain so it's got to mean something, surely.

FF had originally given me a coverline on CD10 but I felt this was wrong. My temp had only gone up by .1 for a few days but it shot up today so it has now taken it away. I'm feeling confident that in a couple of days it will show my O day as yesterday.

I've made an appointment to get a blood test on CD21 to get my hormone levels checked. I am going to a different doctor at the same clinic that I normally go to. My DF says she's a great doctor so I guess I will see next week.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Fingers crossed that you got an egg this month Sharon. I am a big believer in not testing too early...so stay strong lovey. Last pregnancy I had spotting all the way through every few days until I had an u/s at 9.5 wks and it confirmed that the bub died at 6.6wks. So far (touch wood) no spotting for me this time, but now I am worried about the 12wk scan and having no heart beat. You know how we ladies who have had a m/c think....always the worst.

Satya - Good to see that you are positive atm and all the best.

Looks like I will be popping back in here in around 10 to 14 days to see if we have any :bfp:

Morning girls,

satya - I am glad you seem so positive this cycle! Hopefully the rainbows are a sign. That's a good idea to see another dr to get a hormone level test done, hopefully they will be more helpful than the other dr. I totally agree with you about government telling us to have more babies, but not helping out financially when there are problems. You don't sound bitter - I have had the same thoughts myself. Other states in Aus, and a lot of other countries (even India - I did a LOT of research), have recurrent miscarriage clinics with the latest research and treatment, but here there is NOTHING. I even had to search for my own specialist to see, as no one knew who to send me to. Now, it is all very well for the government to want us to have more children, but come on, how many of the girls here would love to and can't? At least I am in a position to be able to afford going private and seeing a specialist, but a lot of people who would make fantastic parents just can't afford this. Sorry, I'm done with my rant now. Things just could have been so much easier for me if there was more support here.

Sharon - yay for Oing! :crossfingers: for this cycle.

Bekz - good to hear from you!

Salt - good luck for this cycle. It must be so good to have things back in order again and full steam ahead! Hopefully the injections will do the trick - they better, they hurt enough! It does sound like the injections are probably the answer for me, as the only problem they can find is weird cycles and a short LP. As the injections act as hormonal support during the LP, I guess it probably is the right treatment, although I think clomid would do the same thing, but it also boosts hormones at the beginning of the cycle (and I definitely don't like the sound of the side effects). Anyway, soon we will see. I will have my BT in the morning and will usually hear back from the clinic lateish in the afternoon. I just get too nervous to cope with work while I am waiting for the phone call and I am already getting nervous just thinking about it. I wish things didn't have to be this hard.

Hi to everyone else.

My symptoms are only getting stronger. My bbs kill, I am sweating at night (I get that when I am pg), have heaps of creamy cm, and I am tired and nauseous. I was also cramping a fair bit yesterday, not quite like AF cramping and not really bad, but definitely there on and off. Anyway, my last injection is tonight - yay!!!! I have been feeling quite down and like it will never work out and can't seem to get those bad thoughts out of my head. I am seeing my psych tomorrow, so hopefully that will help. Work has been a nightmare which isn't helping either. It just upsets me so much sometimes that I will never have that happy pregnancy that most women will have. I wish I could have just had one happy, innocent pregnancy before all this happened, just so I could enjoy the happiness once. It seems such a huge part of a woman's life, and I feel like I have missed out on so much. Even if it does one day work out (and I don't know if that will ever happen), I will not be able to enjoy pregnancy the way I should. It is like one of life's greatest treasures has been stolen from me and I will never get it back again. Sorry to sound so dramatic, I just wish I could have had that experience, just once.

SELFISH POST ALERT!!!

Sorry ladies, I'm having a very bad day : (
My temp took a huge dive today and I suddenly got EWCM, and now I am worried that I am about to O and DH is away and has been for the past few days so no chance of BDing. I'm so over this. If we don't make it this cycle it will be a year of TTC. I just feel so useless and wonder if it will every happen for us. For so many years I have been careful to not get pg and now that I have been trying all I get is one BFP followed shortly by misscarriage. I am so depressed. It takes months for me to get pg and then I loose them. I know I am probably being overly dramatic, but hey, a girl is allowed to be a drama queen every now and then!
Can someone please look at my chart and let me know what you think? I think maybe it might be an anovulatory cycle this time. I have dipped below the coverline 3 times, and my chart does not really look biphasic.
Sorry for all the 'me, me, me'.

love

Hi everyone,

Yes Salt & Bun, the innocence of pregnancy has certainly gone for us. After my first m/c I didn't feel that way, but when I never fell pg again that changed. Now having had a second one I do have hope that at least I can get pg but I know I will forever worry if I get spotting that the end is near. It sucks.

Leyla - You sound very like me the other night when I thought I was going to miss out on BDing around O time. I know how bad that feels. I don't know enough about charts yet to help by looking at it, sorry.

Leyla, I don't know - was your OPK a definite positive? I notice that one of your temps that's below the coverline is sleep deprived, so maybe you can discount that one. I understand how frustrated you must feel :hugs:

Good luck everyone!

congratulations Flowerchild!

Not much to report here - I am 7dpo, temp is looking good but too early to notice a pattern I think. Did have cramps yesterday which is a good sign.

satya I know that FF is going to give me a coverline tomorrow, which will make me one day ahead of you but as soon as I put in Sunday's temp it is going to move O day forward to yesterday, how do I know this you ask, well I put in some dodgy temps and it doesn't matter what the actual temps are, FF does the same thing every time. What DPO do you think you will test, I am not going to let myself test before 14 dpo. Hope you get to see a nicer Dr when you go for your BT
BekZ I thought that was what happened to you last time, at least you aren't spotting, and you are, over 8 weeks aren't you? so I think that is a good sign for you. I know when/if I get my next bfp I will be thinking the worst until I get past 12 weeks.
Bun I think the thought of a happy pgncy has gone for most of us, I am luckier than some and have managed to experience 2, even though I m/c before falling with Jordan it was more than likely caused by the IVP xrays I had to have and had been told that I wasn't pg but found out a week later I was actually pg, so in a way the m/c wasn't my fault. But my last m/c wasn't because of xrays but because there was a problem with the baby and I just get so scared that it will happen again, and again, and again so big :hugs: to you hun.
saltprincess No luck with DH tonight, but I am pretty positive that I o'd yesterday so not much point really. LOL at your very firm tone, i'm shaking in my boots (well if was wearing boots i'd be shaking in them). Sounds like you have a great OB hope you won't need him for FT though, :crossfingers: you get your bfp this cycle.
Leyla :hugs: it must be awful thinking that you may have missed your opportunity this cycle, from looking at your chart I have to agree with Sally about discarding the sleep deprived temp.
SallyJ I think your temps are looking great, when do you think you will test?

I have been getting stabbing pains in my tummy today (like a sharp needle) then it will go away, then get some more stabbing pains, I am fairly certain that I had this very very early on when i was pg in dec (like in the first few days after O) in saying that though I will also so this "I WILL NOT TEST TILL 14 DPO" :lol:

Anyway, I am off on a scrapbooking weekend tomorrow (my friends all went tonight but DH would only let me go for 1 night which is better than nothing) so will try and log on before I go so that I can update my chart, please don't do too much chatting over the weekend (jk), it is sooooooo hard to catch up.

Now I am really confused! FF has taken the coverline away alltogether. I guess I just have not O'ed yet. Very strange since I am now CD 28!!!! ARGH!!!

Leyla I think it is quite possible that you are having an anovulatory cycle :hugs:

Hi everyone,

Leyla, I think Sharon could be right about your cycle, it's either that or your temps are just all over the place. I think each time you have a temp rise FF will wait til 3 consecutive days of higher temps to put the coverline back on.

Sharon, LOL Great minds think alike. I put in a fake temp for tomorrow just to see what would happen & it has given me the coverline with an O date of CD13 which is exactly where I think it should be. Hopefully tomorrow my temp will still be up and I will get the coverline where I'm expecting it. If this is the case that would put me at 2DPO today. I am intending not to test until 14DPO but if I get any symptoms I know I will be tempted to test earlier. My DF is still managing to talk me out of buying any of the early tests from LC but I'm really wanting to get some so I can test a little earlier. I'm worried that if I'm having implantation problems and don't test early then how am I to know this is what's happening. I had strong symptoms (including nausea which I never get, ever) last cycle but only had a test that picks up higher amounts of HCG so of course it didn't work when I tested early. Unless I buy new sensitive tests I can only use the one I have left & for that I will have to wait til 14DPO. I just know the wait is going to kill me. Hope you have a great time at the scrap booking weekend. Who knew such things existed!!!

Hope everyone else has a great weekend.