Trying to Conceive After Miscarriage or Loss Feb 2010

Hi everyone
Alice: yes I am lurking, I come in here everyday to check up on you all, just been busy and trying to have a bit of a rest from obsessive TTCing...but I'm still here sending love to you all and lots of :hug:

Hi girls,

wow this thread moves fast, will try to get on here more regularly to do personals etc.

:hug: to all of us.

AFM: having a rollercoaster ride at the moment...one of DF's friends announced his girlfriend is pregnant and is due after what I was. Seeing her facebook status etc tears me to bits. I am happy for them but it hurts and I have a feeling that I'm going to feel like this all the way her pregnancy. Just as I thought things were getting better!! :wall:

Sorry girls, about my lil vent but I really didn't think that I would feel that way!!

Mwah

IonaMacca: Yep, pregnancy announcements can be a bit sad, I find that when girls in here announce a BFP I'm really happy and excited for them, but IRL it's a bit bittersweet. One of my best friends is starting TTC this month, and even that makes me a bit sad, cos I was meant to be about 5 months pregnant now. She's all happy and excited about it, and at the moment I'm a lil bit bitter.

MatthewsMum: oooh it's getting exciting, I'm glad things are happening, praying you get some super healthy eggs.

Alice: Lol, glad you like the name, I have wings tattooed on my back, and my actual name is Kitty, hence the kitfaerie (I like the real spelling better too). Are you getting a proper analysis from the m/c done? Mine just said it wasn't molar, which was a relief but not exactly the level of info I wanted.

Em: Hope your doing ok at the moment, xo

Louie: Your plan sounds good, it's good to know that even the little things can help bring us that step closer to getting out babies.

TTCALC: Yep, Day 1 is the first day AF started.

Ferrals: Next months sounds like a good omen, best of luck.

Crafty: Really hope the gizmo works out for you, very exciting!

Sarahrach: Hooray for O! You've got serious work in front of you now :) Good luck with egg catching!

AFM: Still no AF - cycle day 34 now :o so I'm thinking that I either O'd ridiculously late, or it's an annovulatory cycle. Considering I went from coming off the pill to pregnant to miscarrying in 4 months I wouldent be surprised if my body is just going 'STOP!'. I wanna POAS tomorrow though, just to make sure.

Couldent wait, tested again and BFN. So tired of this. Waiting for day 1 AGAIN.

Big :hug: KitFaerie

And yep Iona macca- I get where you are coming from re. friends being pregnant- I find it very difficult. I even hate being on facebook at the moment seeing friends updates of there pregnancies or babies- its so hard. I mean i'm happy for them, but it just reminds me that there should be a baby growing inside of me right now.

I don't find pregnant friends or their babies too stressful but shopping in certain stores can bring me tears. Going through the babies section in Target chokes me up. We bought DD a new car seat because we thought the baby would soon need hers so she could move up to a big girl's seat. I have hidden her new one in the shed so I don't have to look at it but when I walk past the display at Target it hurts a lot. Likewise the car. We bought a larger family car and everytime I jump in the driver's seat I think about the reason we bought it. I wonder how long it takes to stop thinking about the car that way.

Hey girls...


KitFaerie..thanks sweetie i thought so but since i knew to this i thought maybe i messed up last month on it ..sorry for the N results.. good luck sweetie hang in there big HUGSS

Mathhewsmom.. thanks sweetie..

Iona.. sorry sweetie i know what u mean i feel they same way when i see/hear my friends talking baout hang in there.. HUGS

SammyP... I get like that also .. even before we lost our angel baby.. i would get all upset thinking i might as well give up cause its not going to happen .. but i just had to stop thinking that way and go with the flow..

AFM.. we got court tomorrow morning i just hope and praying we walk out with good news..

thanks all for the good luck's =]

Sorry for you KitFaerie - perhaps its too early yet to show up - anything is possible until nasty AF comes knocking.

Sammy: I'm with you on not feeling too bad about other preggo friends. I'm every bit jeleous of them though - I felt a bit that way when I saw Natalie's bumb on So You Think You Can Dance last night - quite irrational actually :-)

Kirsten: heheh, good luck on not obsessing - let us know how you go.

Em: how are you going luv, are you charting this month?

TTCA: jeez, court sounds a bit frightening, especially US court - thinking Judge Judy or something equally horrific.

ATM: I'm just crusin' along after finally getting a confirmed O and some nice high temps since. I'm totally going to be testing early (got a big box of Lullaby Conceptions HPT) so I'll start the POS-fest next Wednesday I think which'll be 11DPO - woo hoo!!!

Kitfaerie-sorry it was a BFN.

TTCALC-good luck at court today.

AFM-went to the naturopath yesterday and all i can say is WOW is she good she did the iridology thing on our eyes and could see everything from hubby's hiatus hernia and lactose intolerance to my families genetic heart condition that i am a stress head even the scare on my right foot all from looking at our eyes she said my estrogen is high and i am very fertile my right ovary is pumping out eggs my left is just plotting along nicely which is correct my U/S have shown my right ovary produces more eggs she said hubby is also very fertile we are a good match where the problem is with us is the DNA damage from to much toxins in our bodies not allowing the embryos to make it they fragment and wont implant so to cut a long story short she has put us on a detox diet and a heap of chinese tablets herbs and liquid ($337 worth) to cleans our bodies and we have to avoid getting pregnant for 110 days to allow DH sperm to be less DNA damaged and we have to give up all caffine even my decafe all fizzy drinks and all meat and dairy are out so we are eating budgie food and drinking horrible teas and herbs but i wont stop trying to fall pregnant i cant we have waited so long i said to DH i will do all the other stuff but i am not missing an opportunity i will let nature decide if we get pregnant we dont go back to her and if we dont get pregnant we keep seeing her she thinks i will fall pregnant after the 3 months detox if we be good and dont try now so that is it in a nutshell i believe her natural ways but i can not wait any more.
Oh! crafty she has had women to the age of 48 yes 48! have babies with there own eggs so it is possible

Oh! forgot the reason my FSH was high was from stress leading up to ivf so i am happy about that and AF turned up this morning so right on day 28 i'm back to normal cycles YEH!

wow Ferrals that's great you have found someone so good to help. I'm with you on the wait though - v. hard after waiting so long already. Good luck with the detox - we did something similar a few years back after seeing a naturopath and I'm back on it now - no sugar, no caffeine, no alcohol and for me lots of chicken and fish. Sadly my DH smokes and that is a battle I have not won not even after all these long years makes me v. sad and at times quite angry after all I have been through but it's an addiction and I can't judge as I've never had it. I just wish he'd stop NOW.

Iona-Macca - it is terribly hard at times to hear about other pregnancies, no matter how much you love and care for those friends/family. We started TTC nine years ago. In that time we have been through all our friends having the first, then second, now third children. One couple who fell pregnant right after we started have an 8 year old girl. Every time I see her I can't help thinking of all those hard years we've been through. I find the babies a lot easier than the pregnancies, and usually after the initial announcement, the pregnancies aren't too hard either though there is one at the moment I just can't see at all. I don't think it means you are bad or awful, I just think you've been through a lot of pain and disappointment and grief that a lot of people (luckily) will never have to and so wouldn't understand. That's why this forum is so important for us. We get it.

SammyP - :hug:

Kirsten - good to hear you are well and not obsessing too much - it's a hard one, finding the balance. Fingers crossed for you.

Kit - boo I hope it's just BFP hiding ready to surprise you. I hate that feeling of ground hog day - here we go AGAIN. Our lot is to be patient and I've never been v. good at that!

have to dash off - soo late for work but when it involves packing up an office after 4 years you can't blame me. It's like moving house and having to go back to the old place to clean - just makes you want to cry!

Hugs to everyone - TTCaLC - good luck!

Alice x

morning all,kirsten-nice to hear from you..ionamacca-i had a preg announcement yesterday,& still 15 months after my loss,my heart sank a little...kitfairie-sorry about bfn...sammyp-thinking of you...ttalovechild-love the teddy ticker...sarahrach-sounds promising...ferrals-all sounds promising too.what can you eat?..murraycod-what's happening with you &harvey2...alice-good luck with finalising things at work...afm-does anyone know how to change signature,our ages have changed now,sorry i'm challenged in the area of computers as well as the reproductive areas

Loupie – I know of 2 women who have gone to Shen. One had something like 12 IVF attempts ( I don't know if they were all stim cycles or not), and in combination with IVF and Shen she conceived twins. About 12 months later, whilst still attending Shen she and her DH conceived naturally and spontaneously and now have a healthy bubs. The other woman, my GF, has been long term TCC with 4 IVF attempts. Within 3 months of starting Shen, she fell pregnant spontaneously but sadly m/c and then within another 6 months conceived spontaneously again, and sadly another m/c. Shen completely change your diet including having your main meal at lunch, no soft drinks, more protein, full cream diary and put you on chinese herbs, give accupuncture and massage. My GF loves her Shen sessions. Even though now it's been 2 years since the last m/c and no luck on the BFP she still goes and still get a lot out of it. Personally, I was quite affronted by some of the content about m/c on the web page and couldn't attend that clinic out of principle. I accept however from the clinic's point of view those are valid statements given their philosophy. My GF talks highly of them.

Glad your visit to the Dr was positive. I love decluttering. It is the best feeling. Good luck. Hope you still drop in and let us know how you're going?

Kit – oh it must be such a struggle being away from DH!! But good work you on uni stuff. For me, being away from DH seems like an adventure when the idea first comes up, but the reality is pretty grim when it arrives. We still spend some time apart b/c of work, well only his at the moment,given I am a lady of leisure. It's sooooooooo good when he comes home. I have found having the cats around helps me feel less lonely. I have yet to have a night apart when I am not working. At the moment I really look forward to his coming home each night.

Sunbeam – I hope an answer is easily found and easily fixed.

Crafty – Sweetie. Such hard decisions, such a hard journey. You will know what's right for you. Thinking of you, lots. There is hope, but you have to find your way to it, it won't come to you.

TCCALC – Anita – good luck tomorrow ( it's today here in Aus). Court stuff is hard and draining and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Lets hope the other party doesn't turn up and it's a simple day for you. Hope you get to celebrate in style. My GF who lives in NYC just sent me some photos of NYC blanketed in snow. So different to Aus.

Ferals – hugs. Hope the pms symptoms ease soon and you are feeling better. Hopefully with all the sadness, later in march will be your time? I hope so.

Sarahrach – awesome news. Big O. So did you get jiggy with it? BTW – those feelings aren't irrational in the slightest. I think it's just more they sneak up on us when we least expect it or think we are travelling well.

hubba_bubba – that's excellent. You must be so excited. I know what you mean about joining a “date club”. I just can't even begin to contemplate it. I am not particularly superstitious, but I can't join a date club because I am to scared I won't make it to the date again, and in a really peverse way, I am worried I will be a bad omen for anyone else. My rational brain just can't overcome this particular one, despite my best efforts. Guess it gives an indication of just how scared I am, even if I don't always know or admit it.

Murraycod – can you please come to my house? I won't laugh or crack open a beer, but I might just sit back and watch you wizz by! I soooooo wish I had an ounce of enthusiasm for housework or gardening. There is so much I could be doing, but instead I laze around, too scared to really do anything then beat myself up about not doing anything. Oh well, the house isn't a shambles, it's just I thought I would have it perfect, like I did when I was recovering. Oh well, I can dream. Dh says I am doing the most important job and he doesn't care. He might be terrible with chores but the man has a heart of gold.

Alice – a bit closer to the next step. Awesome. Hear you about ageing! Don't work too hard moving offices. It is very hard. I did it twice in the space of a month recently. Urgghhhh.

Mathew's Mum – hope the nose spray goes ok? Is it yukky? Does it make you sneeze?

Em – Hope you're doing ok. Your post sounded strong.

Iona Macca – sweetie, if that's how you feel, don't feel guilty. It's so tough, and hopefully they understand a bit and try and be sensitive. Sometimes in this journey, it's the things we don't expect that surprise and hurt us the most and the things we prepare for, that breeze by with hardly a blip. I know it will be very hard, but you can do it. If you need to – lay low and keep your distance. You need to heal, and that is your priority. Time to put yourself first ( or at least as much as you can)

Sammy P – I hear you, on so many levels. Glad to see you in here. How are you doing? I find that when I see pregnant women, I just get soooo scared for them that I start to cry. Reminds me of what I don't have and the agony of losses. I get wistful around newborns but not too sad. I am just happy they are here, starting to make their way in the world, and they are so fascinating.

AFM – sorry about the long post, it had been so long since I last logged on there was so much to catch up on and I am usually not very brief with my posts! I am going ok. Thanks for the belly rub Murraycod – it gave me a nice smile and a sense of serenity. ANITA – can't wait to hear how you went.

Morning all

Kitfaerie I am with you now day 30 still a BFN so who knows I have been feeling sick yesterday and not had my normal headache which normally means AF is on her way so I have no idea whats going on with me.Good luck testing again in a few days !

Ferrals WOW you have to be dedicated to give up so many things I have no chance of getting DH to do that he is terrible got a sweet tooth and loves his pepsi and beer only has one a day but still, on the good side he doesn't smoke never has and he does eat more veggies and salads now ( he never used to ) but as for looking in your eyes and seeing all that its amazing !Good luck to you anyways. By the way my gizmo arrived yesterday and can't wait to start it up when AF decides to arrive here in Perth ! it does say on there many have fallen within 2 cycles so March is your 2nd cycle is it not !

Dory thanks for the thought I know what is right for me i have to get used to the idea it may never happen but I will keep trying there is no doubt about that ! glad your doing ok. I also need murraycod to come and whizz through my house I keep cleaning and the kids keep messing it up again why do I bother !

TTCLC good luck in court hope it goes well ( sorry not sure why you are there must have missed that )

Matthews mum at the top of the page go to quick links and edit signiture ! hope that helps so glad your doing ok good luck with your IVF not long now

Murraycod how you doing ! thanks to you I am still in here and still going to try my damnest to get a BFP before the years out now | got my gizzmo. Tell AF to get on over here I am waiting for her !

Everyone else have a good day and keep smiling god will bless us all soon !:)

craftymummy-thanks,i was able to do it,got a lovely surprise,when i clicked on it all these nice messages came up about me.Thanks ladies for the nice words...em-how are you today...dory-haven't started the spray yet,keeping the big picture in mind though.so pleased you & bub are travelling along okay.

Hello Ladies,

I've been lurking but nothing to add yet, still waiting for results of my bt.

Crafty- I'm so glad you are not giving up I have a good feeling that there is a little bub out there waiting for you.

Ferrals- Glad Af was prompt. The new regiem sounds pretty harsh. I tried acupuncture, herbs, diet, natural medicine etc but not ALL AT ONCE!!! Good on you, you guys will be super, super healthy (if not a bit cranky from craving yum stuff :lol:) Being cafine free actually made me feel really good I did not realise I was addicted as I only had one coffee a day and got shocking headaches for the first few days without it. Foe fixxy drinks I now have fresh lime with fizzy water, recon that can't be too bad.

Iona- I am with you, seeing pregnant women gives me a horrible pang of loss. I went to yoga last night and felt like crying for most of the session as I wanted to be pregnant and back at my pregnacy yoga class instead. I've decided to do my yoga dvd at home until I can go back to pregnacy classes, its just too hard.

KitF- hang on in there its not over till AF shows up :crossfingers:

Sarah- whoo for the TTW :goodluck:. Who else is with you?

TTALC- I really hope the courts do the right thing good luck tomorrow, thinking of you.

AFM- Well I got my blood tests but I'm not sure I'll trust some of the results because the woman was useless. She stated with my right arm and tried to stick the needle in at a right angle to my vein:o. Now I'm no doctor but I know enough about annatomy to know my veins run up and down my arm not sideways!!! So no blood was coming out DU!:wall: so then she just turns the needle :wtf: I literally screamed in pain, I felt so woosy I thought I might pass out! I thought of just getting up and leaving but I really wanted to get the tests done so I let her try my other arm and this time she used the little butterfly needle thing and sucsessfull got my 10 viles of blood. The reason I'm worried is that some then had to sit for 10 mins before they were spun then she's supposed to do something else to them and I just don't trust she'd have done it right. Anyway should have some news on them tomorrow so I'll let you know.

Better do some work now :shhh:

HAve a good day.

Thanks all for the ones that dont know what is going on for court..
We are fighting for custody of my step son and his lil sister ..


Thansk again guy you all are soo darn sweet..

Best of luck to all of us this month Maybe this is All of our months since its a a Lucky month =]


Hugss and sweet dreams its almost 12am here kiddos school in morning them off to court
THANKS AGAIN much love

Hi all

Ive never ben onto one of these sites before for any reason but find myself needing to air feelings with people who have been through similar situations

I found myself unexpectedly pregnant and my boyfriend and I were both very excited.

At 9 weeks exactly I had some brown spotting and my Mum assured me that it was nothing but I went to the doctor and had my hcgl levels checked two days apart only to be told that it was dropping and the pregnancy wouldnt be viable. I then had to have a scan and I was prepared and tried not to look but couldnt help but see the screen and the lady pointed out my baby and then that there was no heartbeat.

Im not having a D & C am just letting nature take its course and I havent been back to work yet, I am planning on going tomorrow. I was supposed to go today but had a bad night and couldnt stop myself crying this morning, I thought i was fine and then it just hit me this morning. Everyone keeps saying its best it happens now and its nature taking course but none of it helps.

Im now starting to worry that it will happen again and that I might miss out on a baby and it scares me. I want to start trying straight away and my boyfriend wants to wait a couple of months, I just feel like trying and becoming pregnant again will help me to move on.

Any advice or thoughts are most welcome just chatting on here may help.

Feeling alone and worried.................

25th Feb 2010 9 weeks
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