Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss October 2007 ~ #2

Belinda - yaaaaaaaay! Happy nine months to you, happy nine months to you, happy nine months Miss Belinda - happy nine months to you! (sung to the tune of happy birthday).

Treelo, Lee - so sorry AF came guys. AF is officially a grumpy old cow and i wish she would leave us all alone!

Bunny's Mum - that does dound like fertile CM. Happy BDing!

StarrySky - woohoo - sounds promising hun! Fingers crossed!

Big hi's to everyone else!

Me - on day 5 now, AF almost over (hooray). Have decided to stick with the chinese herbs for another three months - if nothing happens, then we will see FS after that. We want to give the alternative stuff a proper go first!

Catch u all soon. C ya!

Hi there , i have been watching this post and wanted to say congrats to Belinda, i am waiting for AF to arrive so i can join in the post.

hi there bettyboop, join in anyway, I did after my mc.
how are you?

Thanks everyone - you are all very kind. Today I am a bit scared about it all, every time I go to the bathroom I am expecting spotting, as I'm experiencing some cramps. But I'm sure everything will be fine.

Hi everyone

Thanks for the advice missbelinda those studies have a very positive outlook for those taking metformin, it's amazing really :dance:, will look forward to reading your updates and following your pregnacy - gives us all hope.:) Bet you are looking forward to that first u/s!

Starrysky - hope af doesn't arrive for you. My boobs were the major give away when I fell pregnant. I was too scared to do another negative test (as I used to test on the day af was due rather than wait until overdue) so I waited and waited until my boobs convinced me that I'd see those two pink lines & sure enough I did (was actually the day after af was due that I got the first +). Good luck - fingers crossed!

Bunny's mum - I agree with Penny in that temping is most accurate. Obviously it varies from person to person but for me CM, maybe baby and OPK have never painted the clear picture that my BBT charts do.

Best wishes to everyone.

Hi everyone ! Great to see you all in here - well ykwim!:redface:
Sorry I dont have time for personals tonight, dp has been hogging the computer, now Im too tired so will catch up tomorrow, but had to say...
Starrysky - OMG
Please don't be "doin a Beaksie"(lol)
Heres hoping for a BIG FAT POSITIVE for you tomorrow chickie. Goodluck :goodluck:
Everyone else, havent forgotten you, will catch up tomorrow. Nighty night.

StarrySky - Thought I should start posting in here more often ;)

Hi all,

Not much going on here, and there won't be for a while. My Ob has told me to wait at least 1 AF until TTC again. He suggests that it ensures the uterus is strong enough after the D&C and I will get an AF when it has recovered. It's not quite what I wanted to hear but what's another 6 weeks of my life??? Hence why I will be lurking but not posting much.

Good luck to you all. I really hope I can see some BFP's while lurking over the next couple of months.

HI, I think I can finally join here. Quick update - waited 12 weeks for AF - went to ob's this week, he said (Sorry TMI coming up) cervix had a layer covering opening - probably due to D & C (cannot say exactly what caused it). He peirced through the layer and out came a small amount of old blood. Said should be all okay now. Now we are really BDing, last night after BDing smallish amount of blood and only when I wipe today. So maybe the last remenants or AF. Hopefully, means all good now and body in right to conceive. Fingers crossed. Good luck to everyone else.

HI, I think I can finally join here. Quick update - waited 12 weeks for AF - went to ob's this week, he said (Sorry TMI coming up) cervix had a layer covering opening - probably due to D & C (cannot say exactly what caused it). He peirced through the layer and out came a small amount of old blood. Said should be all okay now. Now we are really BDing, last night after BDing smallish amount of blood and only when I wipe today. So maybe the last remenants or AF. Hopefully, means all good now and body in right to conceive. Fingers crossed. Good luck to everyone else.

Hi everyone - back again. AF is nearly over, and I reckon there's a few of us (at least) due some bfp's this month!!

Beaksie - I hope you don't have another 42 day cycle!!! Mine was 32 days which I thought was long-ish. We are just about cycle buddies !!

LSB - hi, I'm cd7 - so we can have our bfp's the same day too :D

Starrysky - did you test again this morning????? And........... hope you get a bfp real soon.

Georgi - I had a d&C 13 August, my AF turned up exactly 6 weeks after that. I just had my 2nd AF, and am really roaring to ttc again now. Good luck - waiting is a pain, find some good distractions!

Mumstar - good luck!!

Hi to everyone else.

I'm waiting on my 20 opk I ordered to arrive - and plan on using one everyday. I think I missed last month's egg cause I didn't ovulate till cd17, I thought I'd o'd on cd10. But I think using opk's everyday till I get a true positive ought to help me catch that confounded little egg.

Have a good day everyone!

Lee xo

hello there,

What a busy bunch we are !!

I am great - I am on on cd23 so that makes my post a little more exciting -
my AFs have been a little irregular since D&C in Aug but anywhere from 28 to 32 days is the general pattern. My temps have been high for a while now (one week) so fingers crossed that it stays that way. But as I keep telling you ladies I am really hoping for a almost an immaculate conception this month with the way DH & my bd has been this month- enough about me!!

MUMSTAR - That is great and sounds really positive - lets hope now you get back on track with your TTC - what an awful wait for you - sounds like your doc is good.

LSB - Hooray AF is nearly done - all set for the next round :D

GEORGI - Hello there - how are you?? I hope you are going OK and thinking positive thoughts - your OB said exsactly what mine said - have one AF then TTC again.
It was weird cause once i got that advice i had a plan to stick to and that in a strange way helped!! Best Best wishes to you :D

BUNNY'S MUM - Hi to you too - I agree with AJC & PENNY there temping seems to be much easier to interpret than CM - I have only been charting one month so I am no expert but i think when you first start charting the CM is really hard to describe - I am sure you get better at it - but for now I feel more confident about how my temps are going than interpreting CM. It is gross but taking the temps vaginally is definately much more accurate too.

STARRYSKY - What is the latest?????????? Fingers & toes crossed for you.

PENNY - Thinking of you today - hope the FS is really helpful.

BEAKSIE, BETTYPBOOP, LIZJESSIE, LEE & everyone else HELLO !!

AnnaBelle

Thanks everyone for the advice. I will keep temping but it will be a bit inaccurate as i get up at different times everyday, due to my DD. It would be so much easier if i just went back to a 28 day cycle like i had before the m/c.

Annabelle- i hope your temp stays up there. Any signs of pregnancy?

Georgi - We waited 1 cycle before tttc. My ob advised that was the best plan of action. I have been seeing a natropath to re-build my bodies strengh, as having a m/c really takes it toll on the body.I have a lot more energy now....nearly 3 months on. Goodluck

Big hello to everyone else and happy thursday

Annabelle and Lee thanks and good luck to you both.

Hi everyone - I know that you thought that you were rid of me, but it looks like I'll be back very soon. My blood test came back negative, so my GP said she will repeat it in a week if I don't get AF in the meantime. She said my false positive HPT could be affected due to the medication I am on, or it could just be a faulty test. So we are disappointed because we are in limbo land, and I guess I just have to wait for the bleeding to start. :(

Will be back later to catch up on personals.

I'm so very sorry, Belinda :cry: I'd been hoping and hoping that this one would be a sticky one for you. Sending you a lots and lots of hugs and love. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.


Thanks again for those well wishes. I do lurk, just not posting very much. Not much to share, I'm afraid. Anyway, good luck to you all. Hope your dreams are realised. *mwah*

MissBelinda- Im so sorry for your disappointment. Do you mind if I ask how late AF is, and what HPT gave you the positive??
I hope you feel better soon, Im thinking of you chick...

Sorry to hear that news Miss Belinda.

I am so cranky at the world this evening, I bought a hpt with 2 days till AF is due and got a BFN. I think I had convinced myself that I was pregnant as my nipples were a lot different than usual. I feel so hopeless and lost I know it's only been 5 months but I just hate the world.

Wowzer - *hugs* I hope that BFN turns into a BFP for you in a few days.

Beaksie - The HPT that I used was the ultra sensitive one from LC. AF is only a few days late - my cycles are all over the place due to PCOS, plus Clomid normally gives me a short cycle. But AF has arrived tonight - nice and heavy. Which is a relief, in a way, because I know what's going on now.

Kerry - Thanks! We can still be belly buddies some time in the future :)

Hope everyone has a wonderful friday and doesn't work too hard :P

belinda - sorry AF arrived sending you a big hug.
not much happening her,spent most of yesterday crying, had morning tea with my sis for her birthday and i tryed to act happy , when i got home i lost it and spent the day crying , why do i find it so hard to go out and be with people.sorry to go on.

Hey Missbelinda - :cry: Sorry to hear your news. I hope you are OK.

Bettyboop & Wowzer - Hang in there guys - we are here for you.

:hug: to everyone & Happy Friday

Anna :) (cd24)

Miss Belinda - sorry about the BFN... maybe it was just too early.

I had a little brown spotting yesterday so my doctor has ordered me bed rest. I have today and Monday off and due to Tuesday being a public holiday here I won't be back at work til Wed. The doctor initially wanted me to be off all week, but agreed to see how things are going on Sunday. Anyway back to bed for me.

Hi everybody :hello:
Wowzer and Bettyboop- Im sorry you're both feeling so crappy :( It seems to be part and parcel in this journey doesn't it? So many highs and lows. You both need to do something special and extravagant to spoil yourselves this weekend, you desereve it!! Hope youre feeling better soon....
Missbelinda- Wow. Im sorry about the false pos. Or was it technically a chemical preg? Sorry if it sounds insensitive to ask... I'd rather consider it a false + because it's a bit less depressing. I thought those LC HPTS were meant to be excellent. Ohwell. Hope you too find something nice to do this weekend. Take care of yourself chicky.:hugs:
Annabelle- Hope you have a great weekend. Happy Fri to you too!!:D
Starrysky - Where are you :dunno: Missing you. How'd the testing go??
Treelo- How you doing chick??
Acria - Hope you're doing OK. Have a great weekend.
Everybody else, hope you have a great weekend. Have fun!!
As for me, nothing to report on the TTc front. Still way too early.
Getting closer to news about moving home to Vic. God I cant wait. Looks like we may still make it back by Xmas which would be the BEST pressie ever, after living in remote WA for 3 years. I've been sooo homesick since I had DD, not to mention the little things that civilisation offers that we dont have...like movies and coffee shops, books shops, ahhhh, heaven.
Anyway, thats enough of my crap. Hope you're all great. Take it easy. :p

Missbelinda - I am sorry to hear this, sending you a big :hug:
Satya - sending you :stickyvibesboy:, hope that the spotting stops.
Annabelle - thanks for thinking of me yesterday. The appt. with FS went well. The FSH test results were good and he wished us "good luck", so it's up to the egg and the sperm again this month. I felt a lot better though knowing nothing is wrong, except that I am no spring chick anymore! If nothing happens until the end of the year he offered to fast track us on to IVF, but I don't think I even want to think about that...yet :D
LSB - I am still taking all my herbs from the naturopath too, including the premular (vitex). I have decided to go "all the way" this month and have made an appt with Antonia Ruhl, she has been recommended highly to me by a few people now and i have taken it as a sign. (I noticed when I googled her that there is a thread on bb about her, but from last year).
Has anybody in this thread seen her before? She is in Melbourne.
I have doublechecked all my herbs with the FS for a second opinion and he said it's ok to take them.
Kbowman - please keep lurking!
Bettyboop and Wouzer - :hug::hug:
Big Hello to everyone else and thank God it's Friday!!!!

hello girls,
have finally convinced dp to let me on the computer again, stupid thing wasnt letting me log in, well I am back now anyway!

missbelinda, so sorry hun, I dont know what to say, its so bloody unfair that we get our hopes up and then....nothing. sending you lots of squeezy hugs.you too wowzer.

satya, I really hope all is okay, get yourself to bed and stay there!!

well, I am now 3 days late, I have never been late before (unless pg) is totally doing my head in so can now really empathise with how you felt the other week beaksie, I have used 3 diff pg tests, all giving me BFN. Is so weird, dont feel like af is coming, but dont feel pg really either, my boobs hurt, then they dont, I feel mildly nauseous, then I dont, getting little twitchy niggly pains every now and then and I just dont know what to make of it???!!!
I have one more test left and I have decided that if af is still not here by sunday, I will test monaday morning, if I havent gone completely bonkers by then, that is!
I keep telling myself that it is probably the after effects of the mc, having a short cycle and now a longer one......then I remember how The first time I was pg the first doc I saw said it was prob negative as nothing came up (but I had every other symptom!!) the next doc I went to I had a very faint positive at would have probably been 6 weeks........so I think hmmm well maybe it wont show for a while.....then I really start worrying and thinking what if I was pg and something has gone wrong but like last time my body just doesnt want to let it go? oh god, I have to stop this.
sorry to babble on, not being able to get on here and chat had been really bad for my sanity.
big hugs to everyone, will do personal later on.
seeya.
xxx

Starrysky - I have my fingers crossed for you, it all sounds very promising!!!

Penny - Good luck this cycle. I haven't thought about trying herbs yet, but I am having acupuncture at the moment. I figure we have to try everything, it can't hurt, right?

Beaksie - I'm accepting it in my head as a false HPT. I think I'll just stick to the normal ones from LC in future, or just wait for blood test confirmation before I get excited. I still want to try 1 more cycle of clomid before we go back to the FS to start IUI. But I might have a break for a while before we start IUI, just so I can enjoy Christmas this year and not be stressing :) I can imagine how excited you are to be moving back home. We use to live about an hour or so out of Sydney and that was too far from civilisation for us in the end - I love being close to everything again :) but then sometimes I miss rural life. Oh well, I can't have it both ways lol

Satya - Hope you aren't reading this because you are resting in bed :)

Annabelle - Thanks! Hope you get that immaculate conception too!!

bettyboop - *hugs* cry as much as you want, it does help. I look back now on my 1st m/c and think that all I did for 6wks was lie in bed and cry, I didn't want to leave the house, I didn't want to talk to anyone, I couldn't sleep, I just cried. We all grieve in our own ways, so what you are going through is perfectly natural. I found it a big relief to post in here and start a blog - but whatever helps you.


*waves hello* to everyone else!

missbelinda - I'm so so sorry that you got a false positive - as far as I know, it's so very rare to get one! *hugs*

Satya- Hope you're doing OK. Will keep my fingers crossed for you.
Starrysky- This is sounding all too familiar to me..... Do yourself a favour and try to put it to the back of your mind for the weekend, and dont test for at least a couple of days. Either way, it will become apparent if your pg or not. Thinking of you chick.xx

Thanx beaks, I think It is just "doin a beaksie" (as I will now affectionately refer to this condition!!lol)
xxx

Missbelinda - am so sorry to hear your news wasn't what you were expecting. I'm sure it will happen for you real soon though. You seem to have quite a positive & rational outlook on the whole thing.:hug:

Satya - take it easy and do everything that makes you happy. Read you fav book, watch your fav movies, listen to your fav cd's. Sending positive energies your way.

Starrysky - do you temp? If you do what does your temp say? If temp still high then sounds very promising.

Have a nice weekend everyone.:dance::dance:

Hi everyone!

Just popping in to say 'hi' & to give a quick update. I went to the Dr on Monday after having the chemical pregnancy or m/c the week before. I went to a locum Dr as my usual GP is on holidays - worst mistake of my life as the locum was an absolute cow. She pretty much told me I was a fool for testing early, and I hadn't actually 'miscarried'. I asked her whether I needed to be checked out by an OB/GYN because I was still feeling sick, but she didn't think this was necessary. She told me I was "obviously quite particular" and that I shouldn't be worried that anything was wrong with me because statistically miscarriage is quite normal. She also indicated to me that I shouldn't be so uptight about these losses because both pregnancies had been quite early and were only "a bunch of cells" that I had lost. Obviously I don't have the same view on 'life' as she does.

I've since talked to a friend who is an OB/GYN who validated that I had had a second miscarriage or a chemical pregnancy - her words were if you lose a pregnancy after a positive HPT, then you have had a miscarriage. I guess this made me feel a little reasurred (i.e. not an absolute fruit loop as I was feeling), as I know that the lines I was getting on the HPTs were not false positives (given other symptoms as well). But she did say to me that statistically I was 'normal' - it's just I've had 'bad luck' twice in a row now. She did indicate that health professionals generally don't want to start investigating the cause of recurrent miscarriage until after 3 losses, but she encouraged me to go back to my normal GP once GP has returned from hols for further advice given I've got a good relationship with my GP. So I'm feeling ok about everything at the moment - I'm not feeling absolutely hopeless & I've stopped looking for something being wrong with me for the short term at least! I also started acupuncture on Thursday & must say that I'm feeling a lot more activity down there this month...what feels like ov pains & certainly a lot more CM - I felt the activity start about 30 mins after the acupuncture, which I think is a good sign!

Despite my experience last month with testing early, I'm not going to stop testing early. If it happens again (i.e. another chemical pg), in my opinion I will have had my 3rd m/c and then I'm going to seek further tests. So I won't stop testing early even though I know the potential heartache I'm exposing myself to.

Well enough from me. I apologise I haven't had a chance to do a lot of personals in the last week as I said I would - quite a manic week in all - but hope to catch up with everyone soon.

Hi everyone,

Haven't had any more spotting so hopefully all is OK.

Starrysky - that must be driving you insane. Fingers crossed that you get a BFP soon.

kaib - what a truly awful experience you had with the locum. It doesn't matter how early you lose a pregnancy it's still a loss. I personally don't like the term chemical pregnancy as it makes it sound like your loss should somehow be less than if you were another week along. I would suggest though that you try to only test on the day your AF is due. Less disappointment that way. You may find that doctors will only investigate after 3 confirmed losses for instance when you have tested positive 3 times by blood test before they will investigate.... not sure on that though. A lot of doctors don't consider you pregnant just because you got a positive HPT. The whole testing process is not an easy one to go through either - and it can really do your head in and can also be very expensive so if your GP doesn't think it's worth doing yet don't stress too much about that yet. Good luck.

:hello:
ajc I dont temp so I have no idea!!! Ireally should dig out that themometer.:redface:
kaib :hug: that locum sounds like a biatch! I am glad your friend was a bit more supportive, in regards to your early testing, I would do exactly the same, even if there "was" another mc, at least then you know it early and then something can be done to investigate possible causes. hope you are feeling better soon.

well, still no af!:doh: spoke to dp last night as is really starting to do my head in, told him exactly what I was worried about (see earlier post) trying to lighten the mood a bit he says "well thats it then, we are just never having sex again! seems like every time we do its doctors, hospitals, operations...!" but of course in the highly emotional state I was in I kinda found it hard to laugh at that!:rolleyes:
anyway dp had to work today, so I was up at 6, couldnt go back to sleep, so here I am bright and chirpy on a saturday morning with nothing to do!!!
Hope you all have a lovely day and a fantastic weekend.
xxx

Hi everyone, sorry for the short absence, i just needed to get my head together after another bfn.

Missbelinda - im so sorry you had to go through a false positive. Maybe next cycle be can be belly buddies.
Pashe - hey sweety, yes she moved in on Monday and so far so good. She is very helpful and has been sneakily cleaning my kitchen cupboards while im at work.
AJC - I too would still test early so that you know. Isnt it horrible when dr are so nasty.
Starrysky - I hope you get some answers soon hun. And dont be too hard on DP - im sure he was just trying to be funny and men just dont get it !!!!!!
Satya - Im so glad the spotting has stopped. Best of luck hun.
Kaib - Our angels share the same name... I hope you both take care of yourselves and take it easy for a while. im thinking of you sweety.
Beaksie - Hi hun, how are you going?
LJ - Thanks for the chat hun, i really needed it.

Well im hoping this cycle will be IT for me. The timing is definatly much better than last cycle. DH finishes being on Call on Monday and we start BD on Wednesday i think. We O next weekend and im trying for every second day for at least 7 days. Im going to also buy some OPK's this cycle as well. I am taking the vitex and will stop taking it when i O. There is nothing else i can do except pray really really hard. Thanks to everyone for being so kind and wonderful, i dont know what i would do without all of you, you have become my rock almost.

hugs
treelo

Good moring girls,

Well it is day 26 for me and the tww shall be over soon :dance: I am going to
just try and hold off testing until AF is late - well that is the plan - and if it arrives on time well no need to test righ !! :cryinglaugh:
Temps are still nice and high around 37 degrees every morning so fingers crossed they stay up there.

Penny - hi there glad the FS gave you some great news there - I iknow how you feel I am 36 and time is not on my side either - lets hope we both catch that little eggie soon. I am interested to know about the extra supplements you are taking.-
I am taking blackmores preg gold and that is all - do you know if you can take natural supplements as well as the blackmores?? Congratulations that things are OK and you can TTC with no worries according to the FS :D

STARRYSKY - Hi hang in there - so frustrating but hang in there!!

AJC - Happy weekend to you too!!!

Satya - hope the spotting does not come back - try to rest - hard i know.

kaib - What a nasty piece of work - you know sometimes I reckon male drs are kinder than the females - that is my opinion anyway - not all of them but i do think some female drs who probably have had a couple of babies and trouble free pregnancies just dont get it and don ' t empathise with fellow women who do have ups and downs in that department - women can be so cruel to their own!!
Thinking of you :)

HI TREELO - best of luck - it does help when DH is not working starange hours
hope everything settles down.

Beaksie - STARRYSKY has made you a legend here hasn't she!! "doin a Beaksie"
very cute - hope the next cycle is a good one for you!! Hope you get
your move back to VIC by Xmas xo

missbelinda - Hello there hope you are having a good day today

I better get off my butt and clean this house caio
annaBelle

Oh sweet Annabelle, im so sorry i missed you in my post. I hope you get a BFP hun...

speaking of bfp, on the way home from swimming lessons today, there was a car in front of me and the number plate was 693BFP.....has to be an omen !!!!!!


hugs
treelo

Treelo - lol @ the number plate. Maybe I should get something personalised?

Annabelle - have fun cleaning hehe I'm having a work team meeting at my place today around 2pm, so I was madly cleaning last night and finished up this morning. Thank god it's over.

Kaib - I can't believe she said that to you!:angry: I would have cried me eyes out if it were me! I went into a public hospital for my first m/c d&c and it was terrible. I felt I was treated like just another m/c case instead of a woman who had lost a baby. Their attitude seemed a little 'it's very common, better luck next time'. I don't care how far along the pregnancy is - as far as I'm concerned these prescious little pregnancies were our babies and we are entitled to hold them as close to our hearts as we want to. I've just had my second m/c too and am seeing the most fabulous ob/gyn, he actually offered to do some tests for us before we try again - as you know that doesn't usually happen until you've had 3. There are Dr's out there who will investigate if you want them to, saying that there is nothing wrong with not wanting tests at this stage either. Same goes for the early testing, if you want to then do it. The only person who knows whats best for you is you - trust your own judgement. They haven't found a cause for our m/c's at this stage anyway. Still have a few more to do but have been a pin cushion for the last 6 weeks & the only thing we've found out is that I'm not immuned for chicken pox so have to go off and have a jab for that soon. I am starting to think that we've just been unlucky twice.

Good luck AnnaBelle - hope you get a BFP.

Sorry this is so long but read Kaib's post and that silly locum made me so angry.

Hi everyone,

Wow this week has flown by! missbelinda I'm sorry how things turned out. kaib i am SO sorry you got treated like that / had those things said to you. YUCK. Did they not have ANY compassion in their bones? Meh. I'm hoping you have heaps of support xx

It's one week until we go on our big trip overseas and I'm guessing this will be the month with the easiest TWW since I'll be doing so much -- plus I won't be too stressed if no luck this month. Please don't forget me while I'm away! (You'll all completely free to leave this topic and graduate to the PAML one though!!)

Last night had a birthday dinner with 27 friends at a Thai restaurant, was totally fantastic. It'll be my 30th when I'm overseas so wanted to celebrate and thank friends and family for being there and supporting me so much during the hard times I've gone through this year. I'm starting to get a good perspective on everything and have so much to be thankful for in my life. I'm 100% healthy again, and have an absolutely amazing DH, incredible family and friends :) Thanks again to everyone here. I spent some of my darkest days on this forum and found so much love and support.

Hope you are having a wonderful weekend.

This will be a long post as I really want to write a few personals which I haven't done for a while.

Satya - thanks for your words of support. I really appreciate reading your contributions on this thread, even though you are a 'graduate' as such! I've decided that I'll give TTC a go for another couple of months, & if no success in that time, then I'll definitely be seeking out further tests, 3rd m/c or not. My understanding like yours is that they don't start to investigate until after 3 m/cs for funding/expense purposes. My friend who is the OB/GYN has encouraged me to be a bit more assertive with my normal GP & seek out some tests at this stage, & I've just read AJC's post about doing this too. In the meantime, I'm trying to think positively & keep occupied. I started some spring cleaning today which has been quite cathartic! I hope you're enjoying & sticking to your bed rest this weekend!

Starrysky - thanks for your words of encouragement too. Yep, I know the risks in testing early, but I guess I'm one that is going to want to know if this is a frequent occurrence for me or not. I'm feeling ok at the moment though. I think all the support from ladies like you on the forum has been a tremendous help. I hope you are doing ok.

Treelo - Yeh, I hadn't realised that we'd both named our little ones Hope until you pointed it out. I've read a lot about Africa, and done a couple of trips there, and just love the names they give to their children, so that's where I'd got the idea to name our two little angels in the same fashion. Mind you, DH would never let me name our children in the same way once we have them, but he liked the idea of naming our angels in that way. Thanks so much for your thoughts Treelo. Good move re buying the OPKs - I've found these to be most helpful - have only used them for the last two cycles, and they obviously nailed the time of Ov for the last cycle!

AnnaBelle - your temps are looking good! I really do hope this is your month. I agree with your comment about male doctors, although my normal GP is a female & she is just lovely. It was just unfortunate she was/is on leave at the time. My sister had to take my niece to see the same locum doctor as niece had croup - my sister only told me today she had exactly the same experience with that locum in terms of being made to feel like an absolute fool - my sister did actually cry in front of the locum, along with my niece who was obviously very distressed with croup but the locum didn't see it to be all that serious. It seems for that doctor tact isn't one of her better skills. Thanks for your thoughts.

AJC - trust me, I cried, but just not in front of her. I just mentioned to AnnaBelle that my sister cried in front of the same doctor (but about a different thing) & was made to feel like a fool. I'm sorry that you've also had to go through a similar experience with being made to feel like you were a 'statistic' & your m/c was just another case for them. I agree completely about the testing early - I'm still going to do it as for me, I need to know (good or bad) - I guess it's a 'control' thing. I will go back to my normal GP when next AF due - by that time she should be back from hols; so I'll have a long chat with her to see whether she feels I should seek further tests or referrals at this stage. I'm kind of thinking like you, that it's probably just two doses of bad luck; hopefully it will be third time lucky for both of us!

kiwigirl - thanks too for your words of support. I hope the planning for the o/s trip makes the whole TWW go super fast for you. And we won't forget you while you're away. I hope that your trip is fantastic for you & that a BFP will come your way when you're over there!

Miss Belinda & Acria - am thinking of you both as we've all weathered the same kind of thing around the same time. I hope you are both travelling ok.

Beaksie - I hope you are going ok. Thanks so much for your words of encouragement & empathy whilst I was away in Sydney, and at the time of the chem pg. I know we were both going through different experiences at that time, but they were tough all the same. I guess that's what I have appreciated most about these forums - i.e. that no matter what experiences & difficulties each of us are going through, and no matter how different or the same those experiences are, that everyone still rallies together to grieve with, empathise with, and support each other. And at the end of the day, we're all here wanting exactly the same thing!

Ok - over & out!