Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss ~ August/Septmeber 2006 #3

Hello Ladies,

Just popping in quickly to let you know that I have a NAUGHTY baby in my tummy! The scan should take 15 minutes, but oh no, it takes me 1.5 HOURS because bubs wouldn't lie flat or still enough for the Nuchal Fold measurement to be taken. I had to go in there 4 times!!!!!!! Alan ended up taking Jessica home because she was so restless in the end. The baby is perfect and the measurement was only 1mm, she said that when the measurement is nearing up to 3mm that they start to do more tests and explore more options. The blood sample needs to be analysed with the measurement to get the proper result, but she said it looks pretty good. I'm not worried, I'm only 25 and I don't smoke and there is no history of Downs Syndrome in our families.
Anyway, bubs is 6.2cm long and the hb is 155bpm. He/she was waving at Jessica and jessica is yelling out 'HI BABY' was so cute. The baby sure does move around a lot and I could see the mouth opening and closing and it likes to have it's hands up around it's face. It does big roly-poly's too. So I am 12w5d and still due on 11 March 2007. I can't believe it's happening!!!

Belle - You're driving me INSANE, would you please hurry up and POAS?

I must go, I have a zillion things to do and we're going away for our dirty weekend with a passion-killer (Jessica) in tow tomorrow! LOL!!!

Love Jayne xox

Janye - sounds like bubs is doing nicely. How cute of Jess to say hi to him/her. The weeks will fly by now, so keep us informed!!!

Belle - I'm not really sure what DPO i am coz i didn't chart or anything this cycle. I think i'm about CD35 or so but 'Phantom' signs are all over the place. I'm tired, weeing quite a bit (but that's coz i've been drinking heaps of water), I have a pressing in my abdomen and (sorry if TMI) but think i have a bit of constipation (which is strange considering the amount of water i'm drinking - over 2ltrs per day), i have a nervous/fluttering sort of feeling in my tummy, and DH things my boobs are harder than normal and a bit 'spongy'. Plus there is the constant flushed cheeks. Oh yeah and i've been getting a bit of acne on my face, oily skin and hair and my nails are as hard as rocks.....I tested, i think, last week and it was a BFN, so i'm not holding out any hope....thanks for the offer to hold my hand though. I just might have to take you up on it. Good luck to you too....everything sounds promising...xxx

Have a great weekend everyone.

Oh Jayne, I'm so thrilled for you!!! :confetti: Congrats on a fantastic scan! How gorgeous that your bubbie was opening and closing their mouth :D *sigh* That is just so so wonderful!

Shan, oooooh your symptoms sounds great! Maybe you should do another test on Fathers Day...it might be good luck... ;)

Love
Belle
-xxxooo-

Hi guys,

Jayne, Congratulations on having a wonderful scan...lol at having a naughty baby i would have been pleased to see it so many times! Seriously though well done on reaching that 12 week mark and all is well! Let me know how Jess goes in the bed because we are going away just after Christmas with Lucy and as she is at the 97th percentile for her height i dont think she will fit in the travel cot anymore!

Michelle, GL with your exam you will pass with flying colours i tell you! I meant to say to you last week a BIG Thank you for you saying that you would light a candle for my Katelyn last friday, that is a HUGE gesture and made me have a little tear! Im sorry that you are sick again and also that you have been feeling so flat. To be honest none of us could be yelling from the rooftops with happiness after all you have been through. I just want it so badly for you....there will be a big party in my house (hopefully later this month) when you get that BFP! I wish i knew the right words to say to help you get back on track and feel better because it WILL happen its just so unfair that you have to wait this long. How are you feeling about your tww at the moment? That was really special to witness that delivery too!

Sez, How are you feeling about the decision to not TTC this cycle, i understand what you are saying about you had next cycle in your head so if you feel better go with that but you just have to get that BFP with all the methods (charting etc) that you are using! I am not sure about an 11 day LP???

Tanya, GL with the docs on Tuesday, i hope that he gives you the all clear and you can start your boy diet again soon. I thought the odds of 80% were pretty high considering you are only changing what you eat!

Belle, I really really really hope that it was an implantation bleed...so what are these symptoms that you mentioned you are "not" feeling?

Lisa, How are you? and your friend? How was your emotional release therapy??? I am really interested in the sound of that if you can give me a bit of a rundown? So have you O'd yet? You must be close - wow thats a bit spooky i know that off the top of my head lol im not stalking you i just have a good memory!

Kelly, Oh honey i so hear you (see the bit about me below). What you are feeling is entirely normal, i know that it feels awful to feel like this but i can assure you it will pass, there will be up and down days (as per normal life) but you will get through this time. We are all here for you so vent away when you need too. When are you due by the way?

Shan, How are you doing? wow they sound like a heap of symptoms for you getting a BFN last week. When will you test again. I feel for you i just wish there was an answer for you.

Paige, Welcome to our group, i am really sorry to hear about your losses but happy when i read that you have a son! You have joined a fab group and i dont know what i would do without them!

Well guys....Thanks for holding my hand Belle (and i didnt get any pee on you lol) but on Wednesday afternoon i got a BFP!!! I am so excited! Im sorry that i didnt post it straight away, i had to tell my DH first. We went out for tea to celebrate and then i decided that i would test again on Thursday morning (after all i have a heap of tests lol) and i thought that it would be darker being FMU and all anyway it was actually a bit lighter so i have been stressing my little brain out...had to go to my GP yesterday because Lucy was booked in for her Chicken pox needle (it all went good) so of course i told him and he just printed out both a 7 & 12 week scan referral, Clexane prescriptions and i have started the aspirin! It has all happened so fast i am in a daze! So anyway i have tested again this morning and it was a slight shade darker that yesterday. I am P****D at myself that i couldnt even get 24 hours into this pregnancy without stressing (see Kelly i feel exactly what you feel)...Any advice girls on the lighter HPT - do you think it means bad things???

I realise that i am extremely lucky to have fallen pregnant this quickly and i just wish that i could give you all BFP's, you are ALL wonderful ladies who truly deserve a BFP right this minute. I just wish i could fast forward you to that time.

Love Sarah xx

Yayaay... Congrats Sarah!!! The HPT doesn't mean a thing... they only tell you that you are pg or not... not how pg you are.
Congrats!!!!

Tanya

Hi Ladies,

Another BFP!!
Sounds like this is the place to be! I hope some of what ever it is rubs off.

I noticed that some of you are taking aspirin.
I had not heard of this, so did some surfing.
FYI this is what I found:

For those with an ACA positive result, half an adult daily dose of aspirin can be started from ovulation in any planned conception cycle and heparin injections introduced from the time of a positive pregnancy test. It is debatable as to how long these injections should continue. The risks of heparin include bruising and a reduction in bone thickness during pregnancy. This latter problem has been reported to cause vertebral collapse in the spine – a serious event.

Sounds promising, if you would like to read the full article please let me know & I can email you the link to it.

Sorry if you already know this.

Ifound one article that stated the reduction in miscarriage as high as 10%, but I can't find it again..........

Paige

OMG HUGE CONGRATULATIONS TO MY LOVELY FRIEND SARAH

Sweetie, I am soooooooo excited for you! I know it's no use telling you not to stress, but please enjoy this as much as you can. This is the best news, I am just crying here! I am so happy for you, and for Rowan and Lucy. Your beautiful angel Katelyn sent you a baby, I just knew it would happen! I am so emotional, I just can't express how ecstatic I am! Please don't leave us just yet, I will miss you so much. I hope I can join you over in the paml thread soon (and all the other girls in here too).

Belle, I am so sure you've had an implantation bleed! Fingers crossed honey! To be honest, I'm not sure how long my cycles are, cos I had only just come off the pill when I fell pg! I'm pretty sure that cycle, and my last, my LP was about 14 days. From what I can gather, it shouldn't change much from cycle to cycle. I will just have to be patient and wait and see!

Welcome Paige, I am sure you will find so much support here. Stick with us, and you will get to know everyone here, I promise! It just takes a little time! GL with your ttc journey, may it not be too long.

Michelle, I am so sorry that you are sick. GL with your exam on Monday, let us know how you go. I sure you are too sick to be thinking about it, but only 8 days to go! Any *imaginary symptoms* yet?

How did you go Lise? I hope you are busy catching that eggie today! Or practising anyway!

Shan, PLEASE go and have a blood test! Those symtoms are sounding way too good! I know you don't want to get your hopes up, but you know that some women never get BFPs don't you? You might just need a blood test........let us know!

Jayne, I am so glad your scan went well. LOL at your naughty baby though, and Jess saying Hi ! How cute!

Kate, the book thing is such a good idea. I am a big reader, and I have devoured so many books since the mc. It's a good way of drifting of into fantasy land. Reading 'Tuesdays with Morrie' at the mo, very good so far.....hope you have a fab bding weekend!

Well, I really should go to bed now. I have the hiccups from drinking too much champagne! (have been over at a friends place...they live two doors away!) Gotta make the most of it hey? DH might get lucky tonight! Then again, I don't think hiccups are very attractive! Still waiting for O time. Cd18 and waiting..........come on! The sooner I O, the sooner we can ttc etc etc, you've heard it all before!

Nighty night! Sez xoxo

Sarah nothing to say but CONGRATULATIONS to you & Rowan & Lucy

:happyforyou: YAY SARAH :happyforyou:
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
I'm so very very very pleased for you hun. Best of luck to you and DH for a H&H pregnancy

Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for the congratulations! I am still feeling very excited but also very nervous lol....

Tanya, Thanks for that advice it made me feel heaps better! How are you doing? What happened with the clots did they stop? Sorry if i am prying to much just thinking about how you are doing thats all.

Sez, Thanks matey (i couldnt have missed your post lol!), thanks for what you said about Katelyn sending us a baby, i have actually thought this myself too because i remember that i started feeling proper symtpoms and thought i was actually pregnant again on her anniversary, i am trying to take that as a good sign that this baby is going to stay! There is no way that i am leaving just yet! i cant go without you girls, we need some more BFP's, hurry up and O Sez so you can get down to real TTC land! I Od on about day 20 or 21 this cycle so whilst it is a pain in the bum to have longer cycles than normal i hope that you follow my exact pattern!

Kirsty, Thanks mate, How are you doing...the appointment is monday right? You are probably already travelling because i seem to remember you telling me awhile ago that you had booked the friday off work so you could make a whole weekend out of it. let me know how you go, as always i am thinking of you and hope you come out of that room with the answers you want and need!

Shan, Thanks honey - i couldnt have missed your post either lol, are you going in for the bt's? Like i said before your symptoms are looking good, i hope you can join me in BFP land ASAP!

Love you guys and thanks for the encouragement!

Sarah xx

Hi Everyone,

CONGRATULATIONS SARAH!!! :dance:

I'm soooo happy for you!! Another BFP, how fantastic. It's just the greatest news and I'm so sure everything is going to be fine. It definitely opens up a whole new set of emotions though and I am kind of glad to know that I'm not completely mad. We'll certainly have to help each other through the next 8 weeks and beyond!!

Well, I just about finished the LONGEST post and lost it all - grrrr, very frustrating. Lucky I'm sitting here in my PJ's and don't have much else to do (remember it's Perth time, so it's still early!!!), so here goes again.....

Shan - How are you going? You're *sympoms* certainly do sound promising so hang in there and test when you're ready!! Remember, I too got a BFN before the BFP and as Sez mentioned, some people just need to go get the blood test done!! GL.

Sez - lol at your hiccups after the champas - good on you!!! I'm praying the next few weeks fly by for you so you can get back into ttc again!! I'm sooo sure that with your very positive attitude, it's not going to take you long at all!!

Paige - Welcome!!! You've certainly found the right place for heaps of support and encouragement. I don't think I could have got through the last couple of months without it!! GL!!

Belle - Thanks so much for your comments - I'm definitely feeling much better today and desperately trying to enjoy my pg - positive thoughts, positive thoughts. I'm sooo hoping you had an implantation bleed and that BFP is going to be just around the corner. Hope the rest of the tww is ok - hang in there!!!

Jayne - Soooo glad to hear the 12 wk scan went well. It must have been incredible to see your gorgeous little bub so many times!! Good on him/her for being so naughty and letting you see him/her so many times!!!

Michelle - I'm soo sorry to hear that you're not well again but as you mentioned, at the very least I'm hoping it's taking your mind off the tww and making it a little easier!! I'm desperately praying that this is you're month honey! GL for the exam too - I'm sure all will be fine.

Kate - Thank you sooo much for the support and encouragement - you definitely helped put my mind at ease about the bbs. You're advice about the reading is fantastic too. I haven't been reading much (and when I do, they're all serious books), so I desperately need to get back into it and something that's going to get my spirits up and make me wet my pants is JUST what I need. Thank you - I'm going to go search for the book you recommened next week! GL this weeked - we all know what you'll be doing!! ;)

Lisa - How are you sweet?? I hope the emotional therapy went well and can't wait to hear about it. You've been through so much with your friend and I'm praying that this month goes well for you - you deserve that BFP!!

I hope I haven't missed anyone - wow, doing all that twice is hard work - bloody computer!!! Well, as for me - I'm doing pretty good. Thanks again to EVERYONE for their support, I desperately needed some positivity!! I knew falling pg again was going to be hard but I didn't imagine it would be this hard. I'm desperately trying to stay positive and I'm doing a pretty good job of it at the moment. Still don't have many symptoms (I think I had more symptoms the week before the BFP) but still feel queezy most days! I'm going in for a blood test next Wednesday, then to see my ob the Wednesay after, so that will be good!

Well best I go have a shower and get into the day. It's DH's birthday tomorrow (Father's Day) - which is nice. He sooo think's he should be getting two presents now that we're growing our first child but I'm really scared about getting too excited about it all just yet! We're just going to have a quite day together!!

I hope all the dad's out there have a great Father's Day!

Kelly xxx

Sarah - woooo hooooo :happyforyou: I am so excited for you!!! What a wonderful Father's Day for Rowan.

As for me - just a quick one. I have managed to pick up a doozy of a bug. I slept about 20hrs yesterday / last night, temp 39.5, headache, cough etc. Study is so not getting done. As for the imaginary symptoms Sez - does vomiting yesterday count :D I am sure it is just part of this bug and any imaginary symptoms are being hidden by how cr@p I feel ... which is good. At least I am distracted. Not long to go now. I just hope I can join all of the other BFP's that have popped up this month.

Michelle, I would say that you are well and truly distacted coping with a bug like that! That is one high temp! We are on such a roll in here, I'm sure you're going to join all the other girls running over to PAML. (Just keep them coming girls so I can catch up! LOL)

Kelly, you are sounding so much more positive today, which is so good. Isn't it a bummer when you lose a long post?!!! How great that you're going to have your blood test this week, that will make you feel so much more relaxed. Keep on enjoying sweetie!

Sarah, you must take that as a good sign. How freaky that Katelyn's anniversary was when you started feeling pg! I think that's great, I'm sure this is going to be a very H&H pg for you! Just hope I can be joining you soon.......:) Where are you going after Christmas?

Tanya, how are you going?

Belle, I just checked out your chart honey, it is looking seriously good! I hate that you're offline on weekends, now I have to wait until Monday to see how you're going. Fingers crossed, it is looking and sounding very promising for you sweets!

Shan, you are being very quiet, just tell me to back off if you don't want me hassling you about testing LOL! I just really have a good feeling about you at the moment......

Lisa, I hope you're having a great weekend. How good is our weather at the moment? I'm about to go and sit in the sunshine next to my pool! Hopefully I won't fall asleep! Make sure you fill us in on your emotional release therapy.

Okay, I have a confession to make, all these BFPs are starting to make me really want to ttc NOW! And I think DH is okay about that..........I'm just a bit worried that if it works this cycle, I'll be even more of a nervous wreck because I didn't wait. But I have a really good feeling about ttc this cycle, in that I think I will get pg. WHAT TO DO! Now, after *talking* about it, I've scared myself off again. Sorry about the rambling, I'm just getting so excited by all these BFPs! Maybe I'll go with what Jayne and Tanya were thinking and *not try too hard*, sneaky little plan! I think I will O in about two or three days so the window of opportunity is closing. :rolleyes:

Hi everyone,

Really slack at posting I know but I do read the posts!

Just popping in now to say a huge CONGRATS to Sarah - you lucky thing:-) I wish you a hthy happy pregnancy.

Goldilocks - I hope you get your BFP very soon. I'll check back in a few days to see how you went:-) Fingers X'ed!

Me: I'm at cd14 very sure I've just ovulated and we've been pretty busy these past few days:-) I woke DH this morning from his sleep! and with closed eyes he said you just want my sperm,LOL with a mock cry... really funny.
Well what could I say theres alot of truth there!! But we BOTH want a bubby, and I'm not about to waste an opportunity.

Hope to see lots more BFPS soon!

Hi girls,

Sorry been flat out and at a friends just quickly sneeking a look at what is going on and to check on Ms Jayne's scan results.

Jayne - whoooo hoooo on such wonderful results, now you can rest assured and enjoy the rest of your pg!1

sarah - OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! IM SOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU!! HEEEEHHEEE WHOOOOO HOOOOO - HIP HIP HOOORAY!!!!!

Will be back tomorrow to fill you in on the therapy - it was amazing!!

Oh and Sez - you have a pool? Im coming over LOL!

Hope you are all well, will chat to you lovelies tomorrow

Lisa

Sez - WW Ceaser dressing! Try it with some grilled fish - baby cos lettuce, some WW grated cheese, and a boiled egg...yummmm!

Morning Girls, just a quicky from me....

well i'm having a bit of a downer at the moment. Every Father's Day i have a bit of a cry for my DH coz of our little angel, and too because the 2 year anniversary of his EDD is just around the corner, and i can't help but wonder 'what if'. He would have been two soon, and it breaks my heart when i know that it took us 2 years to conceive him, only to lose him, and now its been another 2.5 years, and still nothing....I'll be fine in a week or so, but it just nice to let things out once in a while.. thanks for letting me vent....xxxxxx

Shan - big hugs for you. I am thinking the same. Last year I gave DH a Father to be card for Father's Day and yet Caitlyn is now an angel. This year we are heading towards the first anniversary of her loss (just about 2 months time) and I don't know how to make it better (or how to get pregnant again). I know today has been hard for him - he has lit the candles around Caitlyn's urn while I was out.

:hugs: to you and DH. I hope you can make something special from today.

Good Morning everyone...:hello:

How are we all today? I'm just great...w/e went well...*nudge, nudge...wink, wink...* and I've either ovulated or am supposed to ovulate today...I've been doing OPK's since Thursday and they were +'ve on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I did one this morning and it was so feint it was almost not there. Question: the line was there on the others was feint (not as bad as this morning) but it was at least visible. Does this happen to anyone else? I mean, the instructions say that it should be quite dark and that if its not dark that it is inconclusive or negative. I'm just curious....

So how was everyone's w/e? Anyone do anything exciting? Ooh...one bit of exciting news for us was that hubby's brother rang last night (he lives o/s) and he proposed to his gf of 7 years last week in Lake Como (near where George Clooney has his place :p ...my little claim to fame ...ha ha ha) and they are getting married here in Sydney in March next year. I'm hoping that at that stage I'll be UTD!!! How exciting....can't wait, it will be a lovely wedding.

Michelle & Shan - I just want to let you know that I'm thinking of you and hope that very soon that you will get your dream of babies. I can't even begin to think of what it is like, but like I said, I'm thinking of you both...*hugs*

Sarah - HUGE congratulations to you lovely on your BFP. That's fantastic news!! I can't wait to start hearing about how things are progressing with you and your little one. Hopefully some of your good luck will rub off onto some of the other lovelies in here :p

Gotta fly, will talk again soon. Much luv and hugs to you all,

Kate x.

Good morning ladies!

OMG Sarah, CONGRATULATIONS!!! :happyforyou: I just knew it was your month, sweetie. How wonderful that you fell first go! I'm so thrilled for you :confetti: How are you feeling? I bet you can't wait for those lovely pg symptoms to really kick in! Oh, and thanks for not getting any pee on me! LMAO

Sez, with all the BFP's in here lately you'll probably catch the egg first go too! If you feel ready to TTC again, then go for it I say! And you doc didn't tell you it would be a bad thing if you fell pg now...sooooo, hop to it! LOL

Kelly, I'm glad you're feeling more positive. I can only imagine how difficult it is not to be worried about every little thing when you're pg after a loss. But stay strong honey, we're all here to help get you through this!

Carol, I've been wondering how you're going! PMSL @ waking your DH up! I think all of our DH's feel like nothing but sperm donors at some stage LOL Keep us updated on how you're doing, honey!

Lisa, can't wait to hear all about your therapy...it's sounds great! How is your friend doing? I hope she's well and truly on the road to recovery.

Oh Shan, I'm so sorry you're having a bit of a downer. Please know that I'll be thinking of you during the week when your EDD arrives. All of our DH's deserve so so much to be daddies and I know that Fathers Day was difficult for me personally...I shed a few quiet tears for DH, I desperately want to make him a daddy. Please come and vent to us whenever you feel like it, honey...we're all here for you :grouphug:

Kate, OPK's are taken to be negative unless the second line is as dark or darker than the control line. HTH!

Tanya, how are you going? Have you been to the doctor about the clots?

Michelle, you poor love...sounds like you have a dreadful bug! I hope you get better very soon...and I hope that you're announcing a BFP even sooner! I think you're next to graduate....

Nothing to report here...I'm 10DPO now. I've been feeling a little nausea from time to time but I think it's just my mind playing tricks on me. DH says my bb's have definitely grown but I think that's just wishful thinking on his part! LOL I'm just going to wait for AF to arrive...and if she's not here by the weekend, THEN maybe I'll think about testing ;) LOL

Love & babydust
Belle
-xxxooo-

Awww Shan... I hope you get your BFP soon. :hug:

Kate, Congrats to your bro :) I am sure you will be UTD by then.

Belle, I can't believe you are going to make us wait until the w/e for you to test... j/k. I hope you do get to the w/e ;) Things are sounding v. good for you.

I have my Dr's appointment tomorrow @ 11:15.
Not much going on here... I hope you all had a good w/e.

Tanya

Morning Girls,

Hope you are all well.

Michelle and Shan, My heart was aching reading both your posts, and I shed a tear for your precious ones. I hope you reach your goal soon.

I O'ed last weekend whilst my DH was in NZ. Was not feeling that confident about it all this month, until I had what I think was an implantation bleed last month. Fingers crossed. I guess I will test in 7 days.

Ciao for now,

Paige
Me 29
DH 32
M/C 4/05
DS 15/2/06
M/C 7/06

Hello possums!

Sarah - again congratulations on your bfp sweety. Pls dont stress yourself out - this bubba is a sticky one I just know it! How are you feeling?

Shan - my thoughts are with you sweety. I really hope you can get through this, and know that we are here to support you through this time. Im sure your little angel is around you and dh all the time, and giving you special little angel kisses.

Belle - oooh sounds like you will be next! Im glad you feel so positive, and how often have you been checking out your bbs, I find im always fondling them in the tww LOL!

Kate - wow sweety sounds like you are right on track for that bfp this month. Sounds like you have O'd - as long as the lines on the opk were dark (or same) as control line, means you are about to O. After O it is normal for the line to be faint or non existent. George C is sooo hot, maybe we need to take a ttc trip over there - he might get the hormones going!

Sez - how are you sweety? Ready to ttc? How crap is this weather today??

Michelle - how are you sweets. I cried when I read about your dh lighting candles around Caitlyn's urn yesterday. Hugs to you both sweety. I really hope that your being sick is not just a bug but a culmination of the flu and pg hormones causing havoc with your body! Praying for you sweets.

Paige - welcome sweety. I hope you get a suprise bfp in 7 days!

Tanya - let us know how your appt goes. I hope you are keeping well.

A huge hello to all the other loves in here - sorry if I missed out but i'll be back later on.

Well the emotional release therapy went really well - I was buzzing with so much energy that I felt like I was going to fly off the bed! I was in control the whole time but in a heightened state of being, he took me through the pg loss and then took me back to the *root* of my problem - the death of one of my loved ones 2.5 years ago - he made me release all that emotion (I didnt know i was supressing so much!) and then my lower belly (womb) felt all hot. He said that i had a blockage in my energy flow due to the built up grief, and that i had to deal with death before i could give life. I felt so much better and so much lighter afterwards. I feel like i can do this now and that I will have my own little bundle in my arms soon.

Im now in the tww (I think I o'd early) but not expecting any symptoms or anything, so will concentrate on supporting my friend and work etc.. She is doing well, but is now going through the emotional stage and feels worthless etc.. I was wondering if you gals could do me a HUGE favour?? Can you please send some messages of support to her (via my email address: roblisa01@optusnet.com.au or PM me). She is feeling immense grief and feels as though she is a failure etc etc... we have been talking heaps and crying but I think it might make her feel better if she hears from other woman who have felt the same and have been through this. She needs more support and she is not that great with computers so I doubt she will come on here of her own accord. Thanks gals - a few messages would be great - I will print them out for her and make a little booklet. Even if its a couple of lines, I would greatly appreciate it. Her name is Mary (oh and they did remove most of her right ovary despite us thinking otherwise initially).

have to go now, got two of my girlfriends coming over with their little bubs for lunch...

take care and love &b bfp's to you all,
Lisa

Hi girls,
Sorry i have not been in to visit you lately, well i do keep up with you all just have not posted!

Sarah, CONGRATULATIONS it will be great to see you over in the ark!

Belle, I think you will definately be over in the ark before the end of the week!!! YAY!!!

Lisa, What are caring person you are, wanting to do that for your friend, i will send her a message!Hopefully it will help her on her journey of recovery. Sorry to hear that she did lose part of her Ovary.:crying:

Kate, I have never had a true positve on an OPK, i always took the darkest one i got as a positive. HTH

Shan, Sweety Big :hug: to you, I know it must be tough on you on special days like that, Im so sorry you had a bit of a downer yesterday, I hope you are feeling better today.

Michelle, so sorry you have been so sick, i hope you are feeling better today and I will be praying you are the next to get a BFP!!!!

Sez, We TTC for 5 months after our m/c and decided to take a "break" and bang only got through 2 month and bang BFP, so you do what your heart is telling you to do!!

Well i have had a bit of stress over the last few days, had a bit of brown spotting, only when i wipe, Thanks to our friend Jayne, thankfully she has eased the stress a little bit, as she had the same thing and all is well, so im hoping mine has the same outcome!
Hope everyone else is doing really well!!!

Hi all...

Can I just interrupt here...this might be too much info for some...BUT....



We have EWCM!!! Told hubby he'd better get his butt home pronto tonight...mind you I'm going to the gym after work but hey, that's for a worthwhile cause too...WOOOHOOOO!!!!! Go spermie...go spermie *does happy dance*

Afternoon Ladies,

Michelle, How are you? I am so sorry to hear that you have had some brown spotting, it sounds as though Jayne has put your mind at rest and i know that it is hard not to worry (as i am the queen of it!) but brown spotting can be normal, i have often read that you only have to worry about red blood and even then it can actually mean nothing. I hope it stops for you though because you dont need that stress.

Kelly, How are you doing? Are you going for the quantative HCG test to monitor your levels or something? When is your due date? Hope you have managed to remain positive (i am finding that really hard today).

Michelle, Oh your poor DH, I am praying with all my might that this is your month, you both really need this to happen for you again. I just wish that there was something i could do to make it happen quicker. I knew that Caitlyn's EDD was coming up (i think its November?) but i would like to know the actual date so that i can light my Katelyn's candle for her on that date. How was your exam and i hope that you are feeling better illness wise.

Sez, How are you doing? Are you still being sneaky for this month or waiting until next? I know why you want to wait but i also understand why you want to go for it. Do whatever your heart tells you to do as that is the right decision. We are here for you whatever you decide. We are going to Albany and Esperance after Christmas, we wanted to have a holiday together as a family before chucking another baby into the mix (although i cant wait for that!).

Hindonly, Lol at your DH, and GL for the tww i really hope it ends with a BFP!

Lisa, I will PM you for your friend, what a nice friend you are to do that for her! So how are you doing on the tww, it sounds like you have got heaps to keep you busy with and your emotional release therapy sounds absolutely amazing!!! I would love to try something like that! How did your lunch go with your girlfriends and their bubba's?

Shan, Big Hugs lovey, I am so sorry that Fathers day was so hard for you and your DH although i totally understand....Well i understand how it feels to lose a much loved and wanted baby but i dont understand how it feels to have to TTC for as long as you have. I wish that i could do something for you to help you at this hard time but just know that i am here for you to talk anytime you want. It was Katelyn's edd on the 25th of August and she would have been two aswell so our Angels must be pretty close in age. When is your sons actual EDD anniversary?

Kate, GL with the TWW i hope it ends with a BFP!

Belle, How are you feeling? Will you make it all the way to the weekend without testing?? I said that remember and i tested on a Wed arvo lol at myself! I hope its your month (sounds as though it must be!) and we can be preggie buddies! In fact i want ALL of us to be preggie buddies, I can return the favour and hold your hand if you want! I have been stressing quite a bit over the last 24 hours and said to Rowan this morning that i just want to start spewing so i know its all alright! With Katelyn i spewed 6 times a day from about 6 weeks to 16 weeks and then slightly less with Lucy until about 13 weeks....Bring it on i reckon lol.

Tanya, GL for the docs i have been thinking of you...

Paige, GL for that suprise BFP in a weeks time. The time will drag but we are all here for you!

As for me like i said stressing stressing stressing...i thought that i was going to be better this time because i had been through it all before and come out with Lucy but things are getting to me already...i know i have to remain positive but it is really hard sometimes. Hopefully i get a good nights sleep tonight (after a loooong night awake last night stressing that i had poisioned the baby with turps fumes that were in my mum and dads house (not the actual turps just the smell lingering from my mum using it that day)..Tell me guys do you think i have to worry or am i just overreacting???? I havent got up the guts to post in PAML yet....dont kick me out just yet will you girls???

Love Sarah xx

Lisa, i have sent you a PM for Mary, i hope you think its ok. Love Sarah xx

Just a quickie before I head home...

Looks like I'm out...I was out doing a settlement earlier and felt a *gush* down below. Got back to find that a very watery AF arrived 4 days early! :doh: I had a feeling that she'd arrive early this month...geez, I hate it when I'm right! LOL

Will be back tomorrow morning to do personals.

Love to all,
Belle
-xxxooo-

Oh Belle, i cant believe it...i was for sure that it was your month :crying: Everyone says that its not over until its over so i hope that there is still hope Love Sarah xx

Hi Girls,

Belle :hug: for you. I'm so sorry af arrived, damn her! :( I was so convinced that you were going to fall first go. I'm here for you if you need to talk.

Lisa, bad weather, hey? Bloody Melbourne just giving us a tate and then taking it away! Bring on summer I say! Your therapy sounds AMAZING! You must be so glad you found this guy! I am so happy for you, all your positive vibes must surely bring on a positive HPT! I'm sorry that you friend is doing it tough. I know how horrible it is when you feel that awful empty feeling. I am more than happy to send her a message of support, will pm it to you. Might not be until Wed, hope that is okay (let me know if you would like it sooner).

You give me hope Shell! I hope it only take us two months as well. I'm sorry about your scare, I'm sure everything is just fine. As you know bleeing is very common in early pg.

Sarah, I'm sure any of us would stress just as much, but that doesn't mean that there is anything to stress about! I'm sure your bubba is so happy and healthy in there! We had our honeymoon in Perth, Bunker Bay and Albany and we had the best time! We love WA! Would have loved to have gone to Esperance, but ran out of time. I hope you guys have the best holiday when it comes around. Just think about what a nice bump you'll have then, how exciting!

Michelle, I hope your exam went well ( I think it was today?) and that you're feeling better.

Shan, big hugs for you, we are all here for you.

Kate, hope you caught that eggie!

Well, I'm about ready to throw the towel in on this cycle. I don't know what my body is doing. Pretty much no O pain, keep getting these stupid faint lines on OPKs and PF on Maybe Baby. Wish I could just hurry up and O! I'm freaking out that I'm having an anovulatory cycle. Let's hope not! I'm just having a down day, and really have the ****s about a few things, my ovaries being one of them! As for ttc, well I'm just waiting to see what happens with O before I get too excited. Thanks for all your support, it means alot to me.

Love to all, Sez xoxo

Hello!!

Belle - I'm sooo sorry af arrived - it was sounding so positive for you and I was just horrified to read your post! :hug: Hang in there and please vent as much as you need to, we're all here to help.

Sez - I'm sorry to hear that you had a rough day today, I'm hoping you get a good nights sleep and maybe some answers in the next few days. I know I shouldn't even bother saying it coz I certainly never listened and didn't want to hear it but seriously, try not to stress too much and vent as much as you like!!

Sarah - Thanks for asking about me - I'm still finding it a bit tough most days but I'm doing a lot better than I was. I'm finding it the hardest at night and I'm really not sleeping all that well - it's driving me CRAZY!!! I'm so tired but just can't sleep. My bbs are still not at all sore and haven't grown, so I'm still freaking out about that! Yes, I'm going for a blood test on Wednesday morning, so I'll get them to check my HCG levels (but I don't know much about all of that)! I think my due date will be May 6 but I'm only guessing as I don't really know when I O'd. I'm only speculating that I'm 5 wks. I've also got an appointment with my OB next week, so I'm hanging out for that! I didn't think it would be this difficult - I really thought I'd be that overwhelmed and excited about being pg again that I wouldn't stress and would just enjoy it - YEAH RIGHT!! I can't enjoy it at all and soooo desperately want to get really bad morning sickness, just to make me feel better. So, yeah, I know exactly what you mean about it being difficult. I'm just so glad I have everyone in here to support me. I've posted a few times in the PMAL thread but just feel so much more comfortable here at the moment - there's so many of them about to burst in there and it's quite hard to deal with, until I know that I'm a little safer - IYKWIM!! I hope no-one minds me hanging around.

Kate - you make me laugh!!! I sooo hope you caught the little eggie this month and the tww isn't too painful!! All the bfp's are bound to rub off on everyone!!

Shell - Hope you're going ok!! I'm sure the brown CM is nothing to worry about - I know so many people that have had full on red blood and everything was still fine. Plus, as Jayne mentioned, the brownish colour is old blood so please don't worry (I know, it's so much harder than it sounds).

Lisa - Sounds like the emotional therapy was incredible - I would love so much to try something like that!! Lets hope it helps with the ttc and you get a bfp soon!! I'll send you an email for your friend - what a great idea, she's very lucky to have someone as caring and wonderful as you!!

Michelle - How are you feeling and how was the exam?? I hope all went well. How far into the tww are you?? I'm praying that this is your month and it would be so great to get the bfp after being so distracted from it all!!!

Paige - Best of luck for the next 7 days - i hope it ends in a BFP!

Tanya - GL with the Doc - let us know how you go! Will be thinking of you.

Shan - How are you going honey?? :hug: It's so hard when the world throws big days like Father's Day in the mix - it's hard enough dealing with the EDD. I hope you're starting to feel a little better but we're all here for you if you need to vent!!

I'm so sorry if I missed anyone - I've had another very, very long day at work. I'm seriously trying to throw myself into it (which is so easy as there's soooo much on at the moment). A least it will take my mind off the LACK OF SYMPTOMS!!! It's driving me nuts and I feel like I'm on the biggest rollercoaster. Every time I convince myself that all is ok and I feel REALLY positive, something happens to knock me right back down again. It's horrible. Can't wait to see the OB next week. I also found it quite difficult yesterday (Father's Day), as I lost my dad about 11 years ago and my DH lost his dad about 6 years ago, so it's not fun in our household. And worst of all - it was DH's birthday - the poor darling! He handled it all very well though and we just had a quite day! Looking forward to making him a Dad next year.

Take care everyone!

Kelly xxx

Good morning ladies!

Tanya, best of luck with your doctor's appointment this morning. I hope you get some answers. Let us know how it goes!

Paige, good luck when you test in a week or so!

Lisa, I'm so sorry that your friend is having a rough time at the moment. She is so lucky to have you as a friend! I'll be sure to send you a little get well note for her when I have a spare moment today. The emotional release therapy sounds amazing! Do you have to go back again or is it a one-off event?

Shell, I can only imagine how scary the spotting was. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. It's amazing how many women have spotting during early pg! I'm sure it's just bubba burrowing deeper ;)

Sarah, I think it's completely normal to be stressing, sweetie. It's such a long wait when you're hanging out for the m/s to start up, isn't it! I remember being a major stress-head when I was pg because I didn't get any m/s until I was almost 6w along. I LOVED throwing up every morning from then on! LOL And of course you don't have to leave us yet! I'm sure we'll all be stalking you when you move over to PAML anyway! LOL :p BTW, Esperance is BEAUTIFUL! DH & I drove over to WA for 3 weeks in Jan '05 and we loved Esperance so much that we went back there twice :)

Michelle, how was your exam yesterday? I'm sure you kicked some butt!!! Hope you feeling a bit better now, sweets. Although I have a sneaking suspicion that they're not just flu symptoms but pg symptoms...

Oh Sez, I completely understand where you're coming from. Sometimes I wish I could just trade my body in for a new one! Maybe if it turns out you have an annovulatory cycle, it's your body's way of telling you to wait until next cycle before TTC? BTW, don't be disheartened if you don't get O pains every cycle...I only have them on some cycles but not on others. Hang in there, honey!

Kelly, of course we don't mind you hanging around in here! It's great that you have Sarah and Shell to share the pg journey with. I know how nerve-wracking it must be for all of you so it's wonderful that you can all support one another. And of course we're all here for you too! You're our inspiration!! Don't worry about the lack of symptoms at the moment, honey...as I said to Sarah, I didn't have any major symptoms until almost 6w! Good luck with your blood test tomorrow...I'm sure everything will be just fine and dandy :D

Hello to everyone I've missed!

OK, well I'm going to join Sez in the "I Hate My Body" club. After what I thought was AF arriving late yesterday afternoon, I had nothing overnight. WTF???!!! AND...I had a temp jump this morning. WTF???!!! *pulls hair out* So I guess I just have to wait and see. Maybe I should do an HPT...that's always a sure fire way to bring on AF! LOL

Love & babydust
Belle
-xxxooo-

Hi Girls,
Scanlon and I are about to go to his "Water Babies" swimming lesson, but I just wanted to post a reply for Kelly re PG symptoms.

My first PG ended in M/C. During that PG I had ALL the symptoms.
Mt second PG ended with my beautiful boy Scanlon Ellery. During that PG I had virtually no symptoms - just a bit of nausea at the end of the day from 8wks to 12wks.
So try not to worry (I don't really know why I typed that - its impossible).
As confident as ms makes you, just because you don't have it is no cause for concern.

Good Luck.

Paige

Oooeeerrr Belle!! I think you neeeed to do a HPT now! ;) I hope you get a BFP whenever you decide to poas.

Kell, I hope the m/s monster rears it's ugly head for you... the lack of symptoms is really horrible!

Sez... hang in there, I am sure O is just late... Ovulation vibes your way!

Well I have been to the Dr, I told ehr what was going on and I told her I want a pelvic u/s. So I have a u/s tomorrow at 2pm. She also said it is quite normal to have mebranious type clots in normal AF, but she said if I wanted a u/s then I shall have one ;)

I think I am going to O early this cycle... feeling very wet down stairs (sorry tmi!!) I suppose I better avoid DP for a few days until I know I have O'd.

I have been really sombre... I am gutted about Steve!! I am really gutted, I was a huge fan, it really is awful!! :(

TL

Tanya

Hello Everybody,
Just popping in to see if Belle has done the elusive HPT? I'm thinking that she's in denial about being pg, I have very good feelings about her!

Tanya - Jessica didn't do too well in the big girls bed. Mainly because she kept on sitting up when she'd wake up, being in a strange environment and when she'd lay back down she'd hit her head on the bed head or the wall. She ended up in bed with me and she slept pretty restless, but it wasn't too bad. She'll get better with practice. I have to get her a bedroom suite soon so she'll get all the practice she needs! LOL.

We had a nice weekend but Alan & I had a BIG BARNEY last night, so I'm not a happy camper today. He never apologises for anything, but I have e-mailed him saying if he doesn't apologise I won't be going to his parents tonight for dinner & I will make life hell until he does :)

I was 13w on Sunday :eek: I have noticed that my stomach is getting a bit thicker, I'm still fitting into all of my clothes though. I'm scared I'm not going to get a nice tight bump because I didn't really try and get rid of the soft tummy after Jessica. Slacker I know! I"m paying for it now! LMAO.

Big hello's to everybody and I'll catch up on you all soon!

Love jayne

Hi Ladies,

Ooohhh Belle - sounds very promising after all!! I think you should definitely test but then again, it may still be too early anyway??? The waiting sucks but it's sounding good, so hang in there!! Thanks also for your kind words, it really helps!!

Paige - Thanks so much for putting my mind at ease - you've made me feel a little more comfortable about everything!!! It's so bloody hard!!!!

Tanya - glad to hear they're going to do an u/s for you - GL, I hope it all goes well. I'm also completely gutted about Steve - what an amazing guy - it's just so hard to believe what's happened!! Oooohh and make sure you get some good BD'ing in!!!

Jayne - I hope Alan apologies to you - why is it that they don't ever want to apologise!!!

As for me - I'm feeling a little better today but am just REALLY, REALLY tired and grumpy! DH has been out late studying the last few nights and I'm just not sleeping, it's driving me mad!

Anyway must get going - hope everyone is well.

Kelly xxx

Hey All,

Kirsty, How did your appointment go? I am axiously awaiting your news...

Belle, Well i must say missy that sounds like it is good news to me!!!!! I told you its not over until its over and there was hope!!! Thanks for telling me about esperance - neither of us have been there before (travelled all over the world but not our own state lol) and are hoping its the right place for an after christmas relaxing holiday! I am going to hold your hand for you test to....

Sez, Bunkers is great hey, we live in Busselton which is about 40 minutes back towards perth, you might have stopped here on your way down....How are you feeling today? Any sign of O???

Tanya, I am glad that everything went well at your docs...you learn something new everyday hey! GL with the ultrasound hope its not too uncomfortable for you.

Jayne, Hope you and Alan sort it out so you dont have to cook dinner!

Kelly, I cant sleep either because i keep waking up and think of things to stress about lol at myself...With my first two pregnancy's i didnt have any symptoms what so ever until i started chucking up big time at 6-7 weeks and this time i have had quite a few symptoms, so what i am saying is that every pregnancy is different. It is still early to be feeling any symptoms at all and just because you havent had any doesnt mean that anything is wrong. Its more of a worry when you have them and then they disappear rather than not getting them YET. Besides, tiredness is a big symptom!! In a few weeks you will probably be feeling sick and more confident. I am not going to tell you not to worry because i have been stressing myself out heaps but i have made up a positive mantra to try and say to myself when i feel the fear creeping up on me, this helped me get through Lucy's pregnancy so maybe you might want to give this a go....So you are due 4 days after me - how cool! You will be able to enjoy this pregnancy i promise you, its just a really hard stage, once you pass the time when you lost your baby things will start to ease up a bit, if you are like me you will always worry but i can assure you there will be lots of happy and positive times too. Just hang in there...and talk to me if you need.

Amy, Are you still hanging around? October is getting close now you know!

Lisa & Michelle, thinking of you both and hope that your tww come to end with a BFP soon!

Lots of love to you all Sarah xx

Hi girls,

Oh Shell - I hope your feeling better about the brown cm - im glad Jayne put your mind to rest :) How are you feeling today?

Tanya - I just cant believe that the Croc Hunter is gone, I was shocked to the core and still am. Very sad for him and his beautiful family. good on ya for convincing your dr to let you have an u/s to make sure all ok in there.

Jayne - oooh 13wks already! Wow thats fantasticle! I like the blackmail you use on dh - i do that too - it works! I hope you guys cuddle and make up soon.

Belle - what is going on with you - sounds like your body is being naughty! Any more bleeding?

Paige - wow isnt it amazing how the body can do different things to what we think its doing. I hope your next pg results in a healthy happy bubba soon.

Kelly - hang around all you like matey.... I know i will be very reluctant to leave this thread when I get that bfp. You stay for as long as you like and we are all here to support you through your crazy stressful times :)

Kate - is the bd fest over?? Im so glad you noticed the ewcm - hopefully the little swimmers have caught that eggy. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Shan - how are you doing?

A big hi and hugs to all - sorry if ive left anyone out - i'll try to pop in later for some more personals..



Sarah - how are you going my pg friend??

Michelle - hope you are feeling better sweets. How did the exam go?

Sez - chin up sweety - as frustrating as it can be waiting for O and ttc your body will bless you with a nice bfp as soon as it feels ready. I had a faint line on an opk this cycle around the time I should have O'd - but since then nothing, so I think I actually O'd a few days before that cause I had EWCM. Maybe look at some of the other signs of O, I know a few women dont get really dark +ves on the opks even when they are O'ing. Im still keeping my fingers crossed for you hun.

Me - nothing new to report really - im the tww about 11 days to go..yipeee. Im still feeling sick - now have a chest infection. BTW - should I be taking antibiotics while im in the tww?

Thanks to all who replied with messages for my dear friend Mary - you are such a wonderful bunch, your kindness really means so much to me. Im hoping to give them to her on Thursday so i'll wait til then for those who have said they will pm or email me. I know she will appreciate it very much. I wish you all happy bfp's this cycle:pray: :bfp:

take care my sweets,
Lisa

Hi everyone.....

Thank you so much for your words of support. I'm feeling much better now, although i still have my angels EDD coming up (for those who asked 16th September), so we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. But thank you...you girls are wonderful.

Sorry about the personals...i've just read 3 pages worth just to catch up, but know that i'm thinking of you all...

Oh yeah..and i did another HPT yesterday, and it was another BFN...i knew it would be, so now i'm totally giving myself a break 4.5 years can't be good for a person, and i know that some of you have been going a lot longer than me, and i'm so sorry that you have to go through something like this....my heart goes out to you.

Take care everyone and i want to see lots and lots of BFP's.....hugs to you all..xxx

Will be back later for personals, but just wanted to say to Lisa that my Ob says as long as it's the right type of AB (safe for pg) it's better to take them than to have an infection. HTH!

Sez xoxo

ETA Hey everyone, I have an avatar!!!!!! Yay!