TTC After Miscarriage or Loss June 07

Morning all!

Salt - Oooh, everything crossed for you hon! Looks like everything has gone as it should this month, :pray: this is the one!

clairabel - Congrats on reaching 7 weeks! Each week is a wonderful milestone! Happy birthday!! Hope you have a wonderful day!

Bun - sorry I haven't gone back far enough to know what's going on, but hope you are doing ok and growing that precious bub beautifully :)

Shoegal - glad your results are all ok! Good luck for this cycle!

Sharon - Totally understand how you've been feeling, glad you updated and truly hope this is a better cycle. yay for the increases SD...look out hubby!! Thinking of you this month.

Satya - Hoping like crazy that you did catch that egg! Fingers crossed for you too hon!

Megsmum - Good on you for trying again this month! I hope this month proves to be the one, my progesterone levels are up and down each cycle so hopefully last month was an off month, and this one will be better.

Hi to the new ladies, sorry to hear of your losses, this is a wonderful little group, but I truly hope you don't need to be with us for long.

Hi to everyone else.

Me - had my repeat BT yesterday and my levels have doubled accordingly and I now have a lot healther result. So hoping this was a late implant or a slow start and we are making some progress. They want to test again Friday just to make sure. M/S has well and truly kicked in, my boobs hurt like crazy so the signs are pretty good for now. Will stay a little longer if that's ok, since we are not quite out of the woods yet - plus want to be able to support all the wonderful ladies that have supported me.

Lisa, that is great news! :) I am keeping everything crossed you!!

Hugs

Lisa - woo hoo!! I am so happy to hear that!

megsmum - thanks. Hopefully the m/s and tiredness is a good sign, it better be, because I am sooo over over feeling like this already, so it had better be for a good cause! I hope your little girl is feeling better today. Good on you for TTC this cycle. You are right, prog levels can change each cycle, and they tend to peak at 7DPO, so if your BT was a couple of days out, you would not have had peak prog levels. Good luck for this cycle!

satya - thanks for the lecture. I am really trying to be positive today, I promise!!

Hi to the new girls, and sorry to hear of your losses. I hope your stay in here is short (for the nicest possible reason!).

sharon - good to see you back again. I think temping should be fine.

Salt - how are you going today? I know you may not be online today, but I am thinking of you and I am sure all will go well today. I look forward to hearing that your parents are making a speedy recovery!

shoegal - yay! So glad to hear all is clear. Good luck TTC this cycle! I have heard that you have a higher chance this cycle and next after that procedure, so hopefully this will be it for you!

Well, I started my day with some lovely dry-retching. I finally managed to force some brekky down and was yet again late for work. We have an end of financial year work function on the weekend, and I am not sure if I will be able to make it or not. I feel soooo sick all the time, and am not sure if I will be able to get through dinner without chucking, plus it is so obvious that I am not drinking (and who doesn't drink when it's free??), so I may have to make up an excuse to get out of it. I have sooo many social engagements on right now and I just want to crawl into a hole until I feel better. In a way I can't wait for the holiday, as at least I don't have any pressure on me, and there will be no need to worry about being sick in public, as no one will know me anyway! Hopefully when we get back I will be feeling better.

Girls

Have any of you read 'The Secret'? I am not a huge believer in things that I can't see etc but this book is all about the power of positive thinking.

Salt - it's not over until the fat lady sings! Try to think positively instead of writing all your hopes off because of what a stupid thermometer says! AF hasn't arrived yet so don't give up this month just yet :D

Bun - the same goes for you girlfriend! Try to think about the little bub growing inside your tummy feeling all safe and snuggly and also about how great it is going to feel when you start getting the little butterfly's in your tummy from the bub moving around! Think of your m/s as nothing but great POSITIVE signs that all is going great!

megsmum - glad to hear you are TTC this month, wouldn't it be great if you could fall before having to actually take any clomid at all? I have a similar problem with you as far as the progesterone levels are concerned. My gyno told me that if I did fall naturally she would monitor me very closely in the early stages and if need be I think she said I could take progesterone (tablet form?) to get the levels up. It didn't actually happen for me and I am now on clomid but I think if you can manage to fall pg without the help of clomid all the better!

Claire - :happybirthday: I hope you have a lovely day!!

Satya - I think we are about the same time in our cycles, don't give up hope just yet!! I don't know the exact day that I ovulated this cycle but know around about?? Does that make sense? Think positive, I believe that if anyone wants anything badly enough they will get it!! We all want it BADLY in here don't we? Do you have any 'early' symptoms yet? I have very sore bb's and skin is starting to have the odd breakout, bit tired too. Could be imagining it all but it's great to have hope!

Hello to everyone I have missed, especially the newbies :hello:

Hello everyone!!

I haven't been here in about two weeks, and there is so much to catch up on. I might have to read through later.

Well, I am still worried that I am not going to O again... :( I have been taking VITEX every day, and Elevit... and doing all the "right" things... but I just worry that something is wrong, even though my doc said that from all the BT I had my hormones are fine, I dont have PCOS, and everything else he tested me for was fine as well...

He did give me a referral letter to a FS for a "second opinion" or to help us conceive... but I just cant make myself call yet... :(

I am on CD14 and have not really had any of my usual signs of O (eg EWCM) so I am not holding much hope... I guess time will tell....

I am kind of getting over the whole thing, and starting to think it will never happen.

Sending lots of sticky vibes to all the PG girls. I know its hard for you! I know I will be the same... but stay strong, you will have a baby in your arms at no time at all.

hi girls

salt hope your parents op goes well for you and everything will eventually fall into place for you theres no need to worry.it will happen.


trying to be positive it is hard i know but just hang in there and your turn will come.be patiant.things happen when they r ready to happen. thats what i always got told.

bun yes the ms sucks i know how you feel just make sure you keep up your fluids. i always used to suck on ice cubes they were the best.

megsmum hope your little girl is doing better... i know where your coming from with the lack of sleep. both my 2 have been vomiting the last 5 days its a nightmare.if its not one its the other feels like i never get to sit down at the moment.
its great to hear you are going ttc this month good luck and hope all goes well for you both.

megs75 im sorry to hear about your loss i hope you keep your chin up and keeptrying hun the day will come.

sharon i dont think it would make much difference to you temp. and its sounding like this mite be you month fingers crossed.

shoegal that is wonderfull news and all the best for the next couple of weeks

well i hope i covered everyone.and i mite pop back in later on


love susan

Salt :hug: I know it is hard, just take it one day (and one cycle) at a time. There is nothing I can say to make you feel better, but we are here for you if you need to chat or vent or just be "around" people without being around people IYKWIM?

Bun :stickyvibesgirl: lots of these being sent your way, not that you need them!! Have every confidence that this one is the stickest ever and you will be able to tell your little one all about how sick she made you when she was in your belly!

Trying :hug: I am with you sadly... don't think we are ever going to get there. I remember how excited DH and I were when I went off the pill, thinking "ohh.. this is it". Unfortunately not for us - I reckon we will appreciate and cherish our pregnancies when they do come along though.

Hi to everyone else - sorry I have been away for so long!!

As for us - off to the FS on 14 August - good thing we weren't in a hurry! Have had some bloods taken and DH has sacrificed some swimmers to pathology. He is now all desperate to get the results... I have to have an ultrasound, which I know will be fine cause I have had my bits examined a few times due to my thyroid problems.

Am on CD 13 (i think) and it feels - hopefully not jinxing myself - that my cycle is more "normal" this time round. Getting the same O pains that I normally get, so fingers crossed.

shellbell

i hope everything goes well with you and your dh. lets pray all testing is good for you both and you will be parents in no time at all

shellbell~ I hope that you are right on with the O pains, looking forward to some more good news. :)

trying to be positive~ It can be soooo hard to be unsure of what your body is doing as I feel frustrated with my body, on a daily basis. I truly hope that you are reassured very very soon, Stay positive. :)

Sp~ Please don't feel like a failure, because there is no way on earth you come even close to that. Although I have my times of feeling the same and I totally understand the pg thing. I was at a "work" party and one lady was discussing her pg and although I was happy for her I felt like people were looking at me waiting for me to tear up because of the news. I will be thinking of you, I hope she doesn't approach you quite yet. BUT even more than that I hope and pray that you will be sharing YOUR news very very soon.

Bun~ Again I am sorry for you feeling so sick. I never had that with either of my pregnancies and I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with life, and being sick not to mention the fear that goes along with being pg after a mc. I hope that very soon you will not only feel better but just a great sense of peace about your pregnancy. I know easier said than done but I have a great feeling about this sticky bubs. :) I really really do!!!


Although I am glad my cycle seems normal enough, its so freaking HEAVY right now! I am counting the days to the big O, I am really getting on it this coming weekend up until the middle of July just in case I don't want to miss any day! :) Plus our 1 year anniversary is this Sunday July 1. YAY for us.

Hi everyone,

Sorry no personals. Selfish post today. I was in the middle of doing personals when I got a phone call and lost the post. The phone call was a friend informing me that my SIL is pg. I'd suspected that she was trying as she'd gone off the booze.... and was dreading the announcement. I'm glad I got the news from the friend.... not them as at least I could have my cry without anyone witnessing it. They've been trying 5 minutes.. I don't begrudge them their happy news, but I should have been 19 weeks now & shouting it out to the world, and they are madly running around telling all and sundry at 5 weeks (but not us yet). It will be interesting to see how long it takes them to break the news to us.

I only just get rid of one pregnant person around me (my workmate) and another one just drops in my lap.... I feel cursed. I know she is going to go on and on and on about being pregnant.... all she has done since the day I met her was talk about her wedding and that's only just over & done with and I just know she will be the same about being pg. I think I might just have to tell her about my m/c and just tell her I really don't want to hear the ins & outs of it all & get it out there and up front. I really can't endure every family event being taken over by pregnancy talk.

I feel so powerless at the moment. I don't think we DTD on the correct days so there's no hope for this month, then I'll probably have to wait a couple more months for the LAP and then the whole IVF thing will rear it's ugly head. I am so trying to keep positive but am finding that impossible.

Salt - So sorry honey! Just remember it's not over until AF arrives. I do so hope that everything has gone well with your parents. I understand the need to take a break for a few days. I hope that things get a little easier for you soon.

Bun - I hope the M/S clears up for you soon. Must be tough to try and act normal at work. You must be hanging out for your holiday!!

Claire - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope you go thoroughly spoilt!

Shoegal - so glad the test went well. Good luck with the BDing!!

Sharon - glad to see you back sweetie. Hope that this cycle is the one for you. I'm not 100% sure about the ducted air thing, but I think as long as it's not up too high it should not affect your temps. If anything having the house at a constant temperature every night might help you have more accurate temps. At least you wont have the ups and downs...

Megs75 - So sorry to hear about your loss... you have come to the right place. All the girls in here are so lovely and have really helped me come to terms with trying again after loosing our baby. Best of luck with TTC.

Satya - Oh hun, I'm so sorry that you are feeling powerless. This whole TTC thing sucks the big one. I really hope that this start to get better for you soon. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make everything right for all of us. I don't know why some of us are tested like this, and I know that you have been through alot. You are in my thoughts and prayers and I know that things will work out for you eventually.

Lisa - So glad that your results came back with such a positive result. I'm sure things will work out wonderfully with this one. Hope you are feeling ok, must be a lot to try and adjust to.

Nicole - I like your positive thinking... I think we can all use some of that around here. Best of luck with this cycle.

Michelle - Good luck with waiting for the O, hope you are getting some serious BDing in!

Diane - Good luck with Oing this weekend... good timing with the 1 year anniversary. Congrats!! Maybe you can make an anniversary baby...

Trying to be Positive - What time do you usually O? There is still plenty of time yet to O. I'm sure that everything you are doing is helping, if not right now, it will certainly help for the next cycle. I've heard that Vitex needs to be taken for 3 months to start having an effect, but every little bit helps. How have you found elevit?? I'm taking it too, but find I get so constipated on it (sorry TMI...).

Megsmum - Good luck with this month, I really hope that it happens for you this time.

Anyhow, not much going on with me. My temp has dropped slightly again. But AF is not due until Sat or Sun (I have a really long LP, which sucks... so much longer until FF tells me I should test). It's my birthday tomorrow and I would so love to test and get a BFP, but really don't think it will happen for me this cycle and really dont want to get all depressed on my B'day by getting a BFN...

Anyhow, big hugs to anyone I've missed, hope that you are doing well.

take care

My bleeding was the start of a m/c and I lost both my twins. I had a D&C yesterday to be sure.

Also cos my HCG actually increased while I was m/cing, they think the twins may have been molar pgs. So now I have to wait for 10 days till my "urgent" histology report comes back with the results. But the gyn was pretty sure they were molar, she had no other reason for HCG going up during m/c.

If they were molar, then I'll have to be monitored for a min of 6months. No ttc and BD only with condoms!

The only good news (?) is that now that I've lost 3 bubs in a row, I qualify for a recurrent miscarriage clinic. They do some tests, and will probl find nothing wrong.

I just can't believe how unlucky I am. Chance of a molar pg is 1 in a 1000. I don't think they even have the stats for twins that are molar.

DH & I are on the verge of giving up. Starting a family shouldn't be so painful and potentially life threatening.

I'm sorry I couldn't read what everyone is upto. Its all a bit painful for me at the moment. Thanks for thinking of me though. I do appreciate it.

Salt - Its a difficult time but you will come through it. That's how I feel anyway. I hope the ops for your mum & dad go well. Go easy on yourself. You are not a failure. You are one incredibly strong & caring woman. PG is just one of those incredibly frustrating things that is totally outside your control. I am sure you will fall pg soon, when the time is right & you can enjoy it.

Bun - Don't worry about your scan (easier said than done). If you do need a D&C (which you won't) you'll be right to travel the day after. 2 days after my first D&C, I drove 9 hours, and 5 days after I flew Sydney-London. But I really think you & bub willl be fine. By the way, when you do fly, make sure you drink heaps of water as your body is trying to make bub & flying can be dehydrating anyway. Also, chances of DVT are higher, so wearing those DVT socks are a good idea, so is drinking loads & walking around loads (prob to the loo).

Rachael - I remember your docs did a test for molar pg after your D&C. Do you mind if I ask why they suspected it for you?

Pash - *hugs* I'm so sorry that this has happened to you and your DH again. You know my thoughts are with you.

Salt - Hope you aren't stressing too much waiting for AF - you never know, she might not turn up.

Claire - Happy Birthday

Satya - Sorry that you are feeling down. Hopefully you'll get a BFP at the end of the TWW. And if that does happen all the focus will be on your SIL's announcment and you can quietly enjoy your pregnancy.

Kerry - How are you going? Any sign yet of when you can start TTC again? Just think, we can go baby shopping together when we are belly buddies again. *positive thinking* :)

Hello to everyone else. Hope you are having a stress free week!!!

As for me, AF is getting heavier every day. I have no idea whether I should go back to my FS, as I am worried about what is happening, plus I have no energy at the moment. I have a funeral to attend tomorrow, as a friend passed away on Monday after being told 3mths ago she had a brain tumour, and secondary cancer. Life is too short, so I guess we all need to reach out and grab hold of what we want and never give up on our dreams.

Pash~ I am sooo sorry for your loss and what you and your DH are going through. Please know that we are here to listen to you anytime! I hope that you find out that it wasn't a molar!!!! Don't give up. :hugs:

pash i am so sorry to hear about your loss i am with you on how you feel. i hope you are feeling alot better 2day after your d&c yesturday and hope it all went well for you. you should be very vertile now that you have had a clean out and maybe try again. bubs will eventually stick with you they do eventually with everyone so dont give up hun.

love susan

Hi everyone,

Pash - I'm so sorry to hear your news. I hope it wasn't a molar pg as that 6 months to 1 year wait to ttc would be very difficult for you. As you say, at least you will get some thorough testing now. I hope you are feeling OK today.

:happybirthday: Leyla hope you have a great day.

Belinda - I'm sorry to hear about your friends death. Brain tumours are a horrible way to go - a work colleague died of one a couple of years ago & it was hard watching her go through the downward spiral. How heavy has your bleeding got? It's probably nothing to worry about, when I was younger every now & then I'd get a major AF that would gush & be really painful & I would feel absolutely drained.... thankfully it's been a number of years since I've had one.

:wall:

Well its 3DPO for me and I have sore BBs. I'm feeling a little better today but am still concerned about the whole situation. Maybe I'm over-reacting, maybe it wont be as bad as I imagine but I have a feeling that my SIL will only have one topic of conversation for months.


Sorry to those I missed when I lost my personals yesterday.

I'd made the following notes so here goes but I'm sure I've missed people.

las - glad the BT went well. Your symptoms increasing is a great sign.

Bun - I think you might be better off to beg off the work function.

Salt - A dip means nothing until your AF arrives. I totally understand your frustration with the whole TTC process. Just have a look at my post last night and you will see how messed up I am right now.

Timinik - At first I liked the idea of the secret, until I read some articles about it and saw some reports on TV about it. The Aussie woman who wrote it has been accused of plaigurising (sorry I'm sure that's spelt wrong) it from another Aussie woman who wrote a very similar book several years ago. Some of the passages were practically word for word. One of the guys who appeared in the video has been ripping off dozens of Aussie people by saying he will invest their money to make money for them but he won't give it back to them. No wonder he was preaching that all you have to do is ask the universe for what you want and you will get it. Experts also warn that the teachings are not healthy. For instance, if you go with what they say you will believe that you will not catch a disease if you truly believe that you won't get it. Very dangerous territory that one. That said I think that positive thinking is a great idea, but I think the secret has tried to take this a little too far. I fell pregnant whilst TTC but really I did not think it would happen (due to my history) - it came as a huge shock. Since then I switched to thinking that it can happen again and it's just not happening. I even tried the imagining that I'd already received my gift - ie that I was pregnant and all that did was left me more disappointed than normal when I didn't turn out to be pregnant.... I think maybe I should go back to thinking that it's not possible again.... that seemed to work for me. It's great if it works for you but it's just not my cup of tea.

megsmum - If your progesterone defficiency was diagnosed based on just one blood test then it's not likely to be accurate. My GP had told me that mine was low and that I wasn't ovulating well (and I'd had two tests) and that my estrogen was too high but when I went to my gyno he told me that my results were nothing to worry about. I believe a whole series of blood tests have to be undertaken to diagnose a hormone problem accurately so don't stress about that.

pash - you have been in my thoughts all week and my heart breaks for you right now. Don't have any words to express my sorrow but wanted to answer your question.

They did testing on me because the sample from the D&C wasn't conclusive - there were some partially hydropic cells which can be associated with partial molar pregnancies. My hcg never went up but took a long time to come down. Those two things, combined with the unusual bleeding in surgery was the reason they checked for a partial molar pregnancy.

*Hugs*

Pash - I, too, have been wondering how you have been. I was hoping it was a case of "no news is good news", but I was wrong. You poor thing Pash. Damm it. It does anger, why why why, it is so unfair that your little twins didn't stay, especially given how much they were wanted and loved by you and your DH. I know you are going to be feeling pretty ordinary for some time. You know we are here for you as much as we can be in cyberspace. This is a good time for you to be extremely kind to yourself, and keep your expectations low. And I do also know, that although it's terribly painful right now, your only true course of action is to keep trying. I truly hope your twins were not molar pregnancies, as waiting 6+ months to ttc will be hard. On the other hand, perhaps it's good for you emotionally to give it a short break, 6 months isn't that long in the scheme of things, and you could plan some lovely side trips away in Europe in that time perhaps, some nice healthy diversions. Big hugs to you Pash, you have been so kind and supportive of me and everyone else in here, and we all share your loss and feel your pain too. I pray that you get some simple answers why your bubs are not sticking, and even better, some simple solutions.

Hello to everyone else, will bbl for more. Nothing much to report with me, which is good I guess.

Hugs.

Lee xoxoxo