TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ March 08 #2

Hi everyone,

10dpo and silly me POAS and of course it was BFN. Will wait til 12dpo now. Symptoms are still looking good though.

Tinak - Hope you caught the eggy, GL with the TWW!

Danielsgirl - I agree with Magda, you could be low in iron, dizziness is definately a symptom of iron deficiency. Are you taking supplements? Another possibility is that your cycle is returning and progesterone levels are working on rebuilding your endometrium. High progesterone also causes dizziness and vertigo. If it continues it probably wouldn't hurt to go to the Doctor and get a bloodtest to test iron levels, etc.

Magda - I really hope this month is the one for you :crossfingers: You're 10dpo too aren't you? When are you going to test?

Katie - Hope you're doing ok, good luck with your Ob 2moro, let us know how you go.

Berecca - I'm sure it must be scary when you first get pregnant again after a MC, I'm sure I will feel the same way. But I'm sure everything is going to be fine. You look after yourself. Hope the doc went well today!

Hi Everyone

Just a quick note to say hi and hope you all enjoyed Easter.

I know what you mean about TWW craziness! Although I am 8DPO (or 9DPO - I dont know whether you are supposed to include the day of 'o'??) and I feel like AF is about to arrive - backache and tummy cramps. Feel pretty deflated actually.

Jodsan - With a sensitive test you can test tomorrow. :crossfingers:. Let us know how you go.

Hi to the rest of you lovely ladies. Oh and am I glad to hear that 40s are the new 30s. I just turned 35 and didnt think I'd be TTC at this age but actually feel more comfortable about the (concept) of being pregnant and having a child than I did with DD at 31.

Nat

Hi Natty - I never count O day, so you should be 1dpo 24 hrs after O, etc. Hmm backache and tummy cramps, could well be implantation. I had pretty good cramping and backaches from 6dpo-8dpo, then I had a fuzzy implantation feeling late at night on 8dpo. Fingers crossed :crossfingers:

Yeah, I am seriously thinking about going out and buying Crystal Clear bc it has always shown up for me early, I was 12dpo last time and it showed up pretty well. I have Lullaby conceptions which I bought when I bought some Preseed, they are supposed to be 20miu but I'm just not sure about them.

Hey, I'm nearly 35 too and I love it! It's pretty funny actually bc I have just gone back to uni and I speak to all the 20 year olds and I dont even wish I was that young again, really happy where I'm at!

Magda I will have to look around and ask for recommendations. Good idea. Ta

Low GI Diet going well and I have found some yummy recipes. My DH turns his nose up a bit at them. Too healthy probably LOL. Want to try and attempt to make Lentil Soup or Minestrone Soup. I picked up the recipe from my Low GI book. I will let you all know what its like.

Another question I want to throw out is....Has anyone been on Clomid, can you only get them from a Obstetrician and what are the side affects?

Hi Jodsan

Thanks for that about when to count DPO. Are you still having vivid dreams? I dreamt last night my DH went off with the female bully from my high school. Wierd. I never hardly remember dreams.....

I used First Response last pregnancy at 10DPO and it was a very + positive! I'd recommend them (also for OPKs). So you are 10DPO today or tomorrow? I didnt like Confirm - it gave me false negatives too often.

Gotta fly

nat

Fiona624 - Not sure who can give you the clomid script. I am in my first cycle now - just took my last tablet this morn. As per the consumer information side effects are as follows: hot flushes, intermenstrual spotting or heavy menstrual periods, nausea or vomiting (unfortunately one I experienced this afternoon), breast discomfort, headache, insomnia, nervousness, depression, fatigue, diziness or light headedness, rash or skin irritations, increased frequency of urination, hair loss, fever, vagina discharge, seizures, visual problems.

I didn't feel anything for the first 1 - 3 days really, except maybe a very mild niggling type headache. Yesterday I felt a little off in the afternoon but just put it down to me looking for side effects but today I felt yuk all day just a little nauseous. When I got home from work I felt even worse but now I've thrown up (sorry TMI) I feel a little better. Will wait and see how I am in the morn - if still yuk I'll go and see my pharmacist or doc. I think headaches and nausea are the most common symptoms though so I'm not going to panic unless I continue to hurl all night.

Glad to hear you are enjoying the low GI recipes, there are some yummy ones. My DH is very easily pleased but saying that he's not afraid to tell me if he didn't enjoy something and he's liked most things so far. I was on holiday recently and found the low GI family cookbook. well we don't have the family yet but there were some great recipes in it and hopefully I will have some munchkins to cook for one day.

Jodsan - good luck! 12 dpo is the earliest I've ever have a +HPT so hopefully you're just a bit too early testing.

Tinak - glad the bd went ok. Where there is a will there is a way!

danielsgirl - I bled for around 2 weeks after my most recent m/c. i didn't experience any diziness or the likes - could you be a little low in iron? Perhaps you're just stressed too. I know I think I'm really calm sometimes and I had this jaw problem a few months after my m/c (when I thought I was calm and relaxed) and my dentist said it was a common jaw disorder caused by stress. Take care of yourself.

ll80 - wow imagine if you fall pg this month. If it happens it must really be meant to be and i'm sure it would be a sticky one. I'm sure your bloods will be fine.

Angelbabies -sorry about af. You have such a great outlook though, another month another chance for a BFP.

Berecca - hope blood test was ok. Am sure all is going to be great!

Sorry if I've missed anyone.

AJC & Fiona - hey low GI buddies. I am slowly starting to make changes - have opted for the low GI cereals and so far so good. Fiona - keep me posted re the minestrone recipe. AJC - sorry u have such awful side effects from clomid :(

Natty & Jodsan - I'm taking notes for my next cycle when I'm TTC - so Crystal Clear and First Response - duely noted. Jodsan - hope what u felt was indeed implantation :crossfingers: GL for testing, hun!! Ditto - enjoying my 30's, there's no way I would have been ready for all this (based on my personality) 10 years ago even if I had met my DH by then.

tina - well done, sweet, re BDing - when u want something bad enough, nothing stands in ur way LOL!!!

Magda - :hug: sincerely hope this is ur cycle.....

Katie - thanks hun - only 21 sleeps to go :dance: hope ur giving ur belly heaps of rubs. So ur friends r coming NEXT weekend - ok. Yeah be brave hun and also be strong for ur bub - only room for positivity, right?

danielsgirl - not too sure about the dizzy spells but what Magda said made sense - def check it with doc.

berecca - how'd u go today with bts?

ll80 - oh hun - that is amazing how ur now in TWW!!!! oh hun - GL!!! I would be so nervous too ....

Hi bday buddy, tempus and all the other lovely lovely girls here.....

ok...
plc, ajc and fiona, good on you guys for trying the low GI thing...i should think ab out improving my diet too....hmmm...
jodsan: fingers crossed those pains were implantation - ive had some strange pains in the past day or so, but im only like 2 days PO, any one have ideas as to what that could be? really sore in the lower pelvic region. good luck for a :bfp:
danielsgirl: not really sure what the dizziness thing is, the low iron theory sounds plausible..maybe check with your GP if it continues..
natty: interesting dreams! hopefully it means something:crossfingers:
magda: i hope your feeling ok, TTC again is a big emotional rollercoaster isnt it!!
ll80:good luck either way!
fiona: a good GP is def worth their weight in gold! ive moved around alot, so it has been hard for me to get consisitency with GP's but i think its soooo important to have one thats sympathetic (and nice!!)
mmteacher: welcome, praying for BFPs for you, as well as the rest of us!
katie girl: good luck with meeting your pg friend this weekend. if i can get through dinner with my SIL, you can do this! ill be thinking of you
berecca and nickster: thinking of you guys and hoping your not too anxious...sending lots of stickyness!!!!!
hello to everyone else i may have missed, so sorry...unfortunately there are alot more of us in here that i would like, but hopefully some of us get to go the 'pg after MC board soon...

ok, im off for some QT with DH, as havent had any alone time with parents here for 4 days :)
good night

i have just lost 1kg without trying , a first for me, i think it is because my opp is less than 1 week away and i am starting to fell scared.

bettyboop: thats terriffic about the weight loss, its great when your not even trying. however i understand that your nervous too...fingers are crossed for you, im sure youll be fine and come out with some positive news

AJC Sounds like the hormones in the tablets working. The symptoms that are written down when you get the tablets are obviously covering everything that might happen. When I had my D & C after my miscarriage, they told me all the worst possible things that could happen to me, even death, just before putting me under. It scared the bajeebers out of me. Let me know how it goes. I suppose you can't get them from a normal GP, you have to go to an ob. Please let me know if this is the truth. I have heard so many conflicting stories.

plc1805 I will keep you posted about the minestrone soup. Going out tomorrow to get all the ingredients. Yum!!! The low GI cereals they recommend is Special K and All Bran. I am not a cereal eater normally, but willing to give it a try. I hate milk, so dry cereal for me. Ewwwww....might surprise myself and like it. LOL

tina k There was an article on tv tonight about good and bad diets and the low GI one was one of the best. The others I was quite surprised they weren't so good.

bettyboop Hi ya. I have given up weighing myself. I am going to rely on the good old tape measure. I was on Weight Watchers a few years ago and lost an incredible 54 kg in one year. I always seem to revert back to Weight Watchers as this is what I know, but at the moment I am giving the Low GI thing a go and see if I lose it quicker. On WW, apparently rice cakes are good, but on Low GI they are not so good as they are High GI. Its an interesting book to read.

I am in the cooking mood this time and I have some awesome WW recipes which I love, and trying the Low GI recipes to see the comparison.

Thanks girls for giving me so much advice. Muchly appreciated.

Fiona, I'm not sure if you're big on yoghurt or not but that's what I put on my all bran when I eat it.
Just plain natural yoghurt and I add in some fruit as well.
That is when I can be bothered with breakfast or am a little backed up :D

Good Luck bettyboop, I have everything crossed for you.

Angel - sorry about af, give her a whack with her broomstick, just because you can!

Hiya to everyone *waves*

..Laura

Saw the date of your m/c (my b-day) and felt compelled to say hello. Had my m/c the day before yours (happy b-day to me). Just wanted you to know that I know what you're going through, and I know how hard it is. You're in my thoughts and prayers. Wishing you luck on TTC, I hope it happens quickly!

danielsgirl1113-- Noticed the date of your m/c (my b-day) and felt compelled to write you. I had my m/c the day before yours on the 5th (happy b-day to me). Just wanted you to know you're not alone, and I know exactly how you feel. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Good luck TTC!

Hey Everyone. I am new to this...so I hope that I am not intruding on the friendships that you have going here. I guess I will start out by telling you my story...

My DH and I decided that we were ready to start our family and tried for about 3 months, and concieved a baby in November 2007. We were so happy. Told both our families at Christmas. Where his brother announced that they were expecting too...two weeks behind us. From that moment I had a bad feeling. All I could think was that their baby was going to be a constant reminder or how old my baby was going to be...morbid I know...but I couldn't get over it. We saw our baby at 10 weeks...and the doctors said everything was great. The doc. even said, "If something happens to your baby now God had a good reason to take it." In hindsight I see that all the warnings were there that this wasn't going to work out. I hate myself for knowing and not being able to protect my baby...anyway lost the baby and had the D&C beginning of Feb.

I want so bad to be pregnant again...

I am just struggling...with fear, apprehension and jealousy.

Is this too soon to start trying again? Why do I feel like I am going soooooo crazy?

I hope everyones dreams come true and truly appreciate you all being here...because I think some people are tired of hearing about my emotional issues.

I'm so sorry for everything you all have gone through...

God bless you all...

hi and welcome prayingandhoping sorry to hear of your loss, you have came to the right place.Hope you get BFP soon and everyone else.

Bettyboop - - - - I just wanted to say that a very good friend of mine has PCOS. she was ordered by her doctor to follow the low-carb lifestyle and it worked really really well for her. she wasn't diagnosed with pcos for a long time and had developed very very large tumors that had to be removed. WHEN she followed her low-carb lifestyle she felt better and did not have pain.(not zero carb, just low carb... i think she stayed between 40 and 60 carbs most days and occasionally went over for "special occasions") however she did not stick to her plan as consistantly as she should. Her tumors did return after a few years and she decided to have a hysterectomy. (when I asked her why.... she said that since she is in her mid 40's and not married or dating anyone right now and doesn't want to have a child on her own she would have the surgery and if she meets someone later she will adopt.) She had her surgery in Dec of 07 and is doing great. She was also on a medication that helped her pcos..... I'll try to find out the name of it when she returns from Italy. I followed Low Carb with her for awhile and I lost 50 lbs. (about 3 years ago) and I have gained it back.... but that is my fault. There is a great website that is all about Low Carb Low GI food with a message board and TONS of recipes. I dont know if I can post a link on this board... is that allowed? There are also LOTS and LOTS of people on there who have PCOS and could be a wealth of knowledge to you. (they are amazing .. very very much like this site!)

Dear prayingandhoping-- Thank you for telling your story, I know it's a truly heartbreaking thing to do. I just posted my story today, also, and had kept putting it off for days because I knew I would cry and I didn't want to do it in front of anyone. Just wanted you to know that I know just what you're going through... the morbid thoughts, the jealousy, the fear, the anger. Wondering if you're going to go crazy... My m/c happened on the toilet, and for the life of me I don't think I'll ever forget having to flush my baby down the toilet. It's such a terrible thing to go through for anyone. For me it's been 20 days since my m/c, and it truly hasn't gotten any easier for me. I keep hoping there's no AF this mo., because I read several stories of women who got p/g right away with no problems. My Dr. told me to wait 2 months, but there's no way I can wait that long. I guess it will happen when it's supposed to. I hope that whenever you decide to TTC it happens quickly and you are blessed with your beautiful baby! Good luck and God bless!

dear hopingandpraying:
im so so sorry to hear about your story...i felt a connection with you as my story is very similar. I fell pg for the first time in Oct, and lost the bub in Dec. had the D&C and then 2 days later, DH's sister announced she was pg. SO, she is 2 weeks behind where i would have been. Im finding it so hard to be happy for her. All i think about when i think of her or talk to her is, 'thats 2 weeks less than me, i should have been at this stage too". the fear, jealousy etc is perfectly normal, you almost feel robbed.
Hoping and praying, i really hope and pray for you that it gets easier. i cant tell you that the pain will ever go away, but i can tell you it will get easier.
DH and i decided to start trying straight away. Had first AF after about 6 weeks. am on cycle 2, and have all fingers and toes crossed.!!!
just do whatever feels right for you, dont let anyone tell you how to get through this...all the best...hope you are pg again soon :)

ll80 Yes, I love yoghurt but not plain. Only the berry fruit one or the peach and mango. I guess thats still ok to have. I never thought of that, thanks. I will try it.

prayingandhoping Oh my god!!! Thats exactly what happened to me. I was 10 weeks pregnant, told our families and they were all so excited. 1 month later my sister fell pregnant and we thought that it would be so cool to be pregnant together. I lost mine and had a D & C, while my sister carried hers. My sisters baby is now almost 3 months old and I can't stop thinking that mine would of been 5 months old. I too have exactly the same feelings of fear and jealously and the like. It is so not too early to start again as long as you are in the right frame of mind and physically up to it again. I have been trying since May 07 to conceive again, but nothing. I put it this way...and I know I have said it before, that if it is meant to happen, it will. If you are not relaxed about it, it won't happen. I have been stressed out since last year and nothing. I am so in your corner on this, and I am sending you good wishes. Please don't be afraid to talk to any of the girls in here. We are a support to one another. Good luck and god bless to you.

tina_k I too went through similar to what you went through. I am still upset about my miscarriage and cry sometimes and think of what could of been. The only thing we all can do is power on and be positive.

I didn't test this morning, I decided to wait until tomorrow at 12dpo. But I'm a bit stressed, I have had AF type cramps all morning, now I have started spotting. Sorry TMI, at first it was pink CM on my undies but then red blood when I wiped. Probably more than I thought implantation would be but I guess it can vary. AF is not due til Sunday (5 days away). :pray: it is implantation at 11dpo and not some kind of early loss?!?

Welcome Jen and Prayingandhoping - I'm so sorry for your losses. It really is a tough journey, thankyou for sharing with all of us. I had an inkling that my last pregnancy was not going to work out, something just didn't feel right. But I still told everyone and then mc a week later. Funny how noone ever mentioned it again nor asked how I was. It really is difficult for people to understand how frustrating this is. I was then terrified to start TTC again, I was worried that there was something wrong with me and that I had somehow killed my own baby. But then everyone on here has been so supportive and great and eventually I had the courage to start TTC again. What I eventually realised is that not every egg can be 100% perfect and not every sperm can be 100% perfect. We just have to try to be patient and wait for 2 perfect ones to get together at the right time. I'm sure a beautiful and healthy baby is coming your way very soon.


Tina - I had pulling pains in lower pelvis from around 2dpo, even a kinda sore pubic bone and I am sure I conceived this cycle (just not sure if its implanted properly yet). I think it is a good sign!

Bettyboop - Congrats on the weight loss but not good that its caused by stress. I have had 5 ops before (on my kidneys) and I know they are scary but at least you should get some kind of an answer out of it. It might actually be really positive. Keep your chin up, :pray: that its going to be good news for you.

Hi Ladies,

I've been haveing dreams as well, I forgot to mention that last night. I have remembered by dreams vividly. This morning I felt a warm wave sensation in one of my breast and then later on during the day I felt tingling in the same breast. I don't know when I o'd exactly now because when I put my temps in last night It told me that I o'd a week later than I thought. I dtd at that time too so I am covered but, I think that what happened was that last week I had an ear ache and I took pain killer every 4 hours for like 3 days straight. When I went to the dr I asked her if this could affect my temps and she said that it could. Then I was on ear drops and i noticed that when I took my temp on that ear which is the ear I temp every morning my temps were low, so I switched to the other ear and it was much higher. So I think that the whole pain reliever and ear drops effected my temps. I am going crazy AF is to arrive next monday the 31st so we will see. Also I have been feeling some cramps around my ovaries, not the pre AF cramps they are different. And today I noticed discharge, like beige, creamy (sorry if tmi) But I think I am just making too much of every little thing I feel.

Jodsan, so I am either 11 dpo or 5, I don't know now. I am dying to test but I am trying so hard to just wait until next monday when AF is to arrive. I don't know if I am going to make it, I went to the store yesterday and looked at the box of first response and was going to buy it but then I said no. I will just wait as I get closer and I will use the one ept stick I have at home because I will use every single stick in that box, I just don't want to go thought the disappointment as I am peeing on every stick.

Fiona264, you are most welcomed.

Plc1805, Thank you I so hope it is my month as well.

1180: Gl on 2ww.

Tina K: thank you

Bettyboop: Congratulations on the weight loss, sorry that you are stressing over your op. It will be ok. GL.

Jen805, I am so sorry for your lost, we are hear for you. You know I found out one day before my bday 11/22 that I was pg and found out one day before my son's bday 12/25 that I my baby had no hb. I was blissfully pg for a month and 3 days.

PrayingandHoping: I am so sorry for your lost as well. I know that your situation is difficult with your family member pg 2 wks apart from you. You know after I m/c I found out that my cousin was expecting, this is her first child and she is 38yrs old, she was at my house on Thanksgiving when I annouced to everyone that I was expecting and she rubbed my head for good luck because she wanted to have a baby. so now she is due late sept and I was due early aug. I refussed to feel jealousy, I needed to feel happy for her because I did not want negativity to set in with me. We are not that close and I don't see her too often, my family leaves in NY and I am in PA but she is really close with my mom. But her pg has brought us a little closer. I called her up to congratulate her when I found out and I told her not to feel mad for me if she wanted to talk about her pg that on the contrarry I am very happy for her. and I had her rub my head for gl. I am not going to lie it will be very painful for me if she gives birth and I am not pg but I will just have to tell her my heart is breaking and I am going to hug her baby a little tighter. I am sorry I am rambling on I just wanted to tell you what I went though. Also at church last sunday there were so many babys that it hurt me so much.

Well ladies I am sorry I won't be able to get to everyone I have to go but I hope everyone is doing well.

fiona264 thank you...its nice to know there are people out there who understand exactly what i am feeling and going through. im sure it must have been really sad for you when your sister had her bub.
but your right, we just have to keep trying and be positive..i pray that we both get the beautuful babies that we are so longing for soon..thanks fiona, tina :)

Danielsgirl~Thank you for the welcome-I am sorry for your loss also...It is good to have so many supporters but sad to know that we have all lost something so precious. I agree that it is sometimes hard to mask my feelings but I feel like I have to in order to keep things going and to keep people from being overbearing about it. I hope your dizziness goes away-I would definitely see the doctor about it!

Natty~Thank you for the welcome...My early symptoms last pregnancy were cramping in my lower left abdomen, sore breasts, and light fatigue...I hope your Easter camping was fun-it sounded like fun to me! Hang in there, it's not over until AF shows up!:pray:

AJC~Thanks for the welcome! I hope your Clomid works for youand that you feel better-I had some side effects but never got sick...I feel sorry for you dealing with that!

Tempus~Yes to positive thinking and yes to Huzzah-the ren fair was a blast-just what I needed to brighten my weekend! :lol:

Jodsan~Gosh, I really hope that you are right and you definitely conceived...it would be great to see you post a BFP soon!!!

Nickster~Hang in there...I am sure all the awful symptoms you have are wonderful signs of a healthy growing baby!

Laura~Wow, maybe you will get a BFP without even trying-they say that's when it happens-I usually wanna clobber the people who say that because I can't stop trying-duh!:cryinglaugh:

Angel babies~Sorry to hear about AF-stay positive for next month!

Katiegirl~Stay positive-I am sure everything will be great!;)

Fiona~Good luck with finding a new doctor-I think you have to find one you're comfortable with-It's the most important thing to do!I took Clomid-I only took it one month and it worked-I had hot flashes, extra energy, trouble sleeping, and some cramping...Not too bad in my opinion-worth it!

Tina K~ I hope you get a BFP soon-Thank you for the warm welcome...I am sorry also to hear about your loss-having to watch someone else close stay pregnant would be hard for me too.:cry:

Jen805~Sorry for your loss...I hope you get another BFP quickly! I have the same thoughts that you do...Very jealous of anyone I see that is pregnant and having trouble getting myself to go to an upcoming baby shower for a friend...it is just so hard!

Praying and hoping~Welcome-many of us are new here too and this has been a very welcoming group-no intruders here! :hug: Hopefully you won't be here long because you will get another BFP...take time to grieve...the nights when I have cried it out are the nights that are getting me through this believe it or not..it is hard though-i just can't help but think that I was so close to my lifelong dream of being a mom and someone took it right from me...

AFM, I am doing okay...I had a good weekend so that cheered things up a bit-lots of time with friends and family! I am already trying to figure out when my next cycle will start so I can take the Clomid and try again...I want to be a mom so very badly! How long did it take you all to get you first cycle after your m/c? I know everyone is different-just wondering...We are putting in a pool and that is almost done and I started back to work yesterday after spring break and that is keeping me busy and keeping my mind off of things-I teach children with autism-very busy but rewarding! I have been invited to a baby shower and I just don't want to go-I find myself looking away anytime I see a pregnant woman-I agree that you feel robbed and it just doesn't seem fair....Well, hopefully my time will come again and I will get a sticky bean next time.:pray:

Baby Dust to everyone!:bluedust:

MMteacher

Magda--Thanks for being here! I'm sorry for your loss and hope and pray that all your dreams come true! Good luck and God bless, Jen

mmteacher--Thanks for the babydust and the well-wishes! I'm sorry for your loss--I wish I had the words that could take away all your pain.... Just know you're in my prayers. Jen

Jodsan--Thanks for being so supportive! You're right about this being a tough and frustrating journey. What an emotional rollercoaster this has been. It's amazing, yet so very sad, that there are so many others going through this terrible ordeal. It's also amazing that everyone is so willing to share their stories, to just throw their hearts out there with the intention of letting us know we're not alone. Good luck with TTC, I wish I had a magic wand to just make it happen for you! Praying for you, Jen

tina_k Thats ok hun. I am here if you need to talk. I think someone going through the same thing have a kind of understanding. People who haven't gone through it, don't really understand but they do sympathise and try and help you as much as they can, but yes it is frustrating cause they don't understand.

mmteacher I would love to go with Clomid. Secretly I would love twins, but that is only a fantasy LOL. No one has told me and I am guessing you can only get them from an Obstetrician. Is this true?

Hi to everyone else....

Katiegirl - I so know how you are feeling and although it is probably not the best have a strong feeling it must be normal after everything we have gone through! :wall: Hopefully your ob has made you feel calmer!

Tina - Congrats on finding a way to DTD whilst parents were visitng, hopefully this is the month for you guys, especially with all the hassle you had to go through! :crossfingers:

AJC - Sorry to hear you have been having side-effects from your clomid, I hope they settle down soon and that they help!

Betty - Congrats about the weight loss, I wish I could drop weight without thinking or trying!!!

Jen - I am reall sorry that you are here, but welcome. Hopefully your TTC journey will not be a long one!

Prayingandhoping - I am really sorry to hear about your horrible experience. I believe it is time to start TTC again when you feel you are ready, it is right! So if you are feeling it I say go for it. It may take some time, it may not, but I hope that your journey is stress free (wishful thinking perhaps?) and that you din't have to wait too long to be pg. again!

mmteacher - My advice is that if you don't feel up to going to the baby shower ... DON'T! That's right think of yourself and your mental and emotional wellbeing. They will understand, and if they don't they are selfish and not a true friend! I think as women we are all about making others happy, doing what we think everyone expects us to, and forget about what we want and need!

As for me:

Well yesterday went to docs and FINALLY got a positive urine test. I really just felt like saying "I told you so" in a very frustrated voice. So this morning was the blood test, wasn't that fun! I have really deep veins and because I had to fast (also needed other tests done for my back so did it all at once!) my veins were hard to find and it hurt, more than usual so more than I was expecting! Sook I know!! :lol: So now next appointment next Monday for results and chat with doc. She has told me to come once a week until I see the ob just so I can talk to someone, ask whatever I need to etc, which is great. She is not big on doing lots of tests and has a great outlook, for me anyway. Yesterday she told me that if I am going to have a m/c this time it is already programmed to do so and there is nothing I can do about it, nothing that will cause it, nor stop it. Harsh perhaps but I know its the truth and just what I needed to hear. The fact is that if there is something wrong with this pg there is something wrong and has been since conception! My thoughts though are that this is going to be a full term pg with a healthy baby at the end. I just feel it is all right!

Sorry if this is hard for everyone in here, its just have come close to you all and feel comfortable chatting to you. I am also still too scared to post in the other forum, not ready yet!

So good luck to you all, i will be keeping watch and hoping and praying for you all!!

:bluedust::bluedust::bluedust::stickyvibesboy::sti ckyvibesgirl:

Oh Berecca that is fantastic news! I also knew from the start that my pregnancy with Aiden was going to be healthy and it all went perfectly. That's a really good sign that you can "feel all is right". I'm sooo happy for you :happyforyou:

Oh darnit, I posted twice and can't erase this one...see next page for my real post!

Jen805~Thank you for your prayers and kind words-I feel lucky to have found support here!

Fiona~Yes, I think you can only get Clomid from your OB-I take 100mg days 5-9 and prometrium from days 14-21 also...I secretly hoped for twins too-as soon as I got a BFP I was wishing for them...Next time I am just wishing for healthy, but twins would still be a great bonus! I had to TTC for 12 months and then do hormone therapy for 3 months because I had irregular cycles before my doctor would put me on Clomid...It worked though and hopefully it will again!

Berecca~Thank you for the advice...I think I am going to go with it...I remember right before I got my BFP last time, I went to a birthday party for a little one and my DH and I were the only couple there without kids and I had a very hard time then...I can only imagine that the pain of it all would be so much greater this time around and I know most of the women there will be moms. I am sitting this one out-being selfish just once for the sake of me! Congratulations on your BFP-I am so glad for you that things feel right-it gives the rest of us hope!:clap:
Sending you :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:

MMteacher

Berecca - congrats on finally getting the confirmed BFP. :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: How far along are you?

Saw my ob today and got to see the heartbeating away again - so all good news. Ob said it looks healthy and he is happy - which makes me extremely happy. It is quite emotional for DH and I to see the heartbeat - and the few seconds it takes for it to come clear are agonising. I have a good feeling about this baby - and like you Berecca I think we are both going to have full terms.

Hope everyone else is well.

Hi Everyone

Firstly, I am sorry Jen805 and prayingandhoping on your losses. May your stay on this post be a short one and that your lives are lightened with a BFP very soon. Its a horrible time following a m/c and you feel like the craziness, sadness and loneliness of it all is never going to end but at some stage the dark cloud will lift and you'll start feel normal again (although you will always remember the little angel that you lost).

Magda - fingers crossed for Jodsan, you and I that the vivid dreams mean a BFP! My dreams keep getting more vivid - last night I dreamt a tidal wave came and was taking all the cement out from the bricks on our house and then I remembered my parents live closer to the beach than we do and I was swimming really hard to get to their house but kept getting slammed against houses and palm trees (dont know where the trees came from!).

Berecca - congrats on your confirmation from your GP. Its good that you have an understanding Doctor.

Jodsan - any more spotting? I'm thinking of you and hoping with all my heart its implantation.

As for me well I am not really sure if I am 9DPO or 10DPO. My OPK showed +ve on Sunday 16 March so prob "o'd" on Monday 17 March which would make it 9DPO. Couldnt help doing a HPT (first response) this pm and the faintest most faintest line came up. You could only see the most vaguest line if you knew where to look so it might be my head trying to make something up but I have never had an evap line on first response so I am going to do another one tomorrow with FMU. Its horrible to want something so badly and to have to keep waiting waiting waiting to know whether you are or not. Thank goodness (and my DH says it too) for you ladies for making me feel normal and allowing me to vent, to question and to share experiences!:grouphug:

To the ladies trying to lose weight - keep up the good work! Its hard going (I know since our m/c i have put on a couple of kg's and trying to lose it is so hard). For me, I cant diet because I am not strong willed enough. Exercise is the only way I can lose weight so I admire you very much - whats the secret?!

Natty

Natty - that's great news, a line is a line, I'm sure your head is not making it up. Do it with first urine in the morning and I'm sure it will be a bit darker.

Katiegirl - Oh you saw the heartbeat, yey!! I'm so glad its going so well for you. Keep us informed of how you are going!

Me - still spotting, its kinda heavy though and I'm cramping quite a bit. But I have never ever had an early AF before, cycle is always 29 days, so im holding onto that thought. I dont know whether I should do the HPT in the morning or wait until the bleeding stops?

Jodsan - I would do a HPT. If its unusual for you to have early AF I would do one...especially with the symptoms you have been having.

I just did another test and it was definitely a BFN so my head was playing tricks on me. More desire/want than reality I guess!

Natty

mmteacher Thanks for the info. I thought you could only get it from an obstetrician, but wasn't 100% sure.

Jodsan Sending you all the luck in the world. Take care of yourself and think positive.

Natty Thanks, yes still trying to lose those dreadful kilos. I went crazy after I miscarried, like I didn't care what I put in my mouth. Slept alot and generally felt sorry for myself. But, I turned around recently and concentrated on trying again after so long.

Berecca So happy for you. Congratulations and Good Luck.

prayingandhoping Sending positive vibes to you .....

Brecca - so glad that it's all confirmed. As katie said, it's all gonna work out fine for you both. *big thumbs up* heheh

Natty GL this mth, you're not out of it yet, probably too early to show up properly

fiona, I'm sure any yoghurt is just as good, I just prefer the plain, odd for me considering i have a very advanced case of "sweet tooth"

me- well I am pretty relaxed atm, feeling kinda ambivalent about everything, which is strange for me. I haven't even worked out when AF is due yet, my cycles have been longer than normal since the m/c so I am not 100% sure anyways.
Trying my hardest not to get excited about anything, but I would be lying if I said I haven't been day dreaming about being pg and having a little bubba again. Would just be a slice of heaven at the moment.
DP has a job interview tomorrow or friday, the only one to make it to second stage interviews, so *fingers crossed* as it would just take a huge load off our shoulders.

That's about it on my end.

Hiya to you all.

...Laura

I go away on Holidays, come back and there are new people in here........ I dont want new people in here..... I want this thread to be empty one day..... I DONT WANT ANOTHER PERSON TO KNOW THE PAIN WE KNOW!

To everyone new in here..... WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME.... but I wish you wernt here. Every single person in here knows far to well your pain and for many of us its a wound that is still fresh and painful every day. But here I go again, I m going to sound like a broken record to those that have been here a while. ONE DAY AT A TIME! and very importantly.....Look after YOU! dont try and do everything you think others think you should be doing. Allow yourself to greive. Allow yourself to take it all ONE DAY AT A TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again, you are all welcome to click on the link below, Angel Babies, I made the web site to firstly honour my angel babies and in the hope that it makes it just a tiny bit easier for the next person who has to face the loss of their baby. there are some beautiful songs, video clips and poems. You are all more than welcome to look through it and I hope it helps.

Now as for personals... Goodness this is going to take a while.

ll80..... not only did I beat AF up with her broomstick I swore at her too..... big made up swear words.... big like you ve never seen before. I m talkin HUGE. Fingers crossed for DH..... bet you ll be glad to get him out of the house ;)

Natty, fiona, jodsan..... far far far to many new members of our family in here. I know your not new new but i still wish you wernt here.

Katiegirl.... good to see a familiar face that is carrying the torch of good news.... huge hugs hun.

mmteacher... Ohhh I just hate seeing so many names in here.

berecca623... you stick it to them girl......LOL..... of course you were right.

Jen, prayingandhoping, tina..... Ohh seriously..... There are just to many people who have had to join us in the last few weeks.

Magda....pee away I say girl...... AF was due for me last Saturday. From Friday onwards I was peein and peein and peein..... goodness we talk some lovely stuff dont we...... anywayyyy Friday I POAS BFN.... Saturday I POAS BFN Sunday I POAS BFN Monday I woke up at 2.15am i was that sure.... POAS BFN.... Then about 6 hours later.... knock knock on the door.... Good Morning Aunty Flow.... so GLAD to see you :angry: .... my theory... who cares if you POAS....if it works for you then it works for you and thats all that matters.

plc1805.... Birthday Buddy.... huge hugs.... missed you. more details girlfriend.. what have you been up to... I saw you come in and check up on me in the 2WW.... I spyed you.... thank you... huge hugs :hug: .... I ve got them keepin the seat in the corner warm for me.

Betty Boop.... getting to the point where you and I have been around for a while now.... starting to feel old and not just in age.

AJC... Huge hugs to you too :hug: Now whats this about a bit of chuck chuck... hmmm waiting for more information....


Now Nickster and Starrysky.... I know your both out there somewhere...... HUGE HUGE Hugs to you both.

Well as for me... goodness. I think DH and I are going to take a little break. If we dont take a break from TCC then I think it will end up being taking a break from each other. Its not him, its me. Everything was being expected of me and when you give its great but when you dont recieve its not so good. Sometimes you just have to put your foot down and say no. No i dont deserve to be treated this way, no i will not put up with it and no you have absolutely no right to do it. So i be basically said that we have a relationship to work on before we can consider bringing a child into that relationship. Now I know to well that our current issues are a result of what we have been through with IVF and then the loss of our angels and now a road of TCC that seems to not end. So we are getting back to basics and concentrating on each other. We even sat there tonight and watched our wedding DVD together to see how far removed we currently are from that. I love him, I love him dearly but I love myself just as much and sometimes you just have to say NO. People will treat you how you ALLOW them to treat you.

So its not sad faces, its a smile... a smile that I might be able to fix my realationship with my husband so that we can conceive a child into a family of strong love.

Having said that, I ll still be popping in to see you all, goodness... i couldnt stay away on my 8 day holiday....

GROUP HUG :grouphug: