TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ March 08

hi ladies

hello and welcome to danielsgirl and natty, sorry for your losses and hope your stay is short.

hey berecca- i was saying the same thing a couple of nights ago when i got AF- i charted, used OPK's, DTD as much as humanly possible so what else can i do?? i guess i am realising that there is so little about all this that is within our control...i have changed my expectations a bit and instead of saying i think it's going to be this month i am sort of thinking it will take around 12 months...that way i won't keep getting so disapointed and if it does happen sooner i will be pleasantly surprised...

but listen, you should be taking the same advice you gave me in the TWW thread- it ain't over till AF shows up!!! so don't give up hope yet and :crossfingers: you get a BFP when you test sunday morning.

to all the other lovely ladies a big hello and a big :hug:

:hello: welcome Danielsgirl and Natty- so very sorry to hear your sad news. I hope you find comfort and the answers you need from the wonderful ladies here :hugs:

Thanks for the gorgeous cyber-cake Angel- very scrummy indeed! Congrats on your fitness kick, lookin' good hun x

Hi to all, huge hugs all round :grouphug: and good luck this month xxxxxxxx

When we were TTC we bd'd every other night/day (no matter what) when I thought I was due to 'o'- and even a couple of times either side to cover all the bases. (Then I went off bd completely for weeks- either my body already knew it was successful- or it was just rebelling due to the overdose of jigginess :dance:)
Anywayyyyyyyyy (Angel! that's your fault) every 2 days worked for us, so really heartfelt best wishes to those who are getting jiggy xxxxxxxxxxx:crossfingers:

Canary- my ticker got stuck ages ago and I couldn't sort it out so I just did myself a new one and replaced it- it was fine after (and I could still use the same design.) if you still have no luck try lilliepie x

Hello All,

Danielsgirl and Natty, im so sorry for your losses, i hope your stay is short.

Angel babies - Im in Brisbane and would love the name and address, could you pm it to me....thanks heaps. I have decided that i am not going continue trying once i reach 37 and im going to be 36 this year, so i need to get a move on.

Tempus - I agree, it really puts me down when i get attitude from people like that, even if they are meaning well.....its very disheartning.

Everyone else - im sorry for the lack of personals, im running late getting my son ready for school.
I hope your all doing really well and im praying we get some more bfp's in here soon.

Hugs to all
treelo

Hello and welcome to the newbies. My sentiments echo the ones above - nice to have you here, but wish you didn't have to be here IYKWIM!!!

Well, it's been a long week for us, I can't wait until tomorrow to POAS again, so I think I will do it today and get it over with. I need to know more - we are away camping next weekend with friends and want to know whether I need to 'keep mum' or whether I can drink and waterski all weekend!!! Of course, if it's -, then I'll no doubt be heartbroken, but if it's still +, then all the better. I can then move forward to the next step and do the bloods.

So, I will be back with POAS results some time today.

:hello: to everyone else, will write more tonight.

Hello Everyone

I am with Angel Welcome to Natty and Danielsgirl i hope you find the support and answers to your questions here, but i also hope your visit is a short one.
I have found everyone to be very supportive here and whether you are having a great day or a bad day we are all here for you.

News about my dad... i heard from mum that he is ok and the radiation is not effecting him as yet. I am hoping to see him today which will help me alot as i just really want to see him. Then i can let my sister know how he really is as mum does cover things up a bit and my sisiter is not able to come and visit as she is a 2 1/2 hour drive away.

Brockstar - goodluck with you POAS i look forward to hearing the outcome :crossfingers:

Betty - I am glad you had a nice time away on your own sometimes we just need that time for ourselves :hug:

Angel - Well done on your lose of .8. That is fantastic :clap:

To everyone that i have missed hello and i hope all is well in your neck of the woods. I wish everyone a BFP soon :bluedust::bluedust::bluedust:

Chast soon
Trac

AF is done, we get to start DTD tonight, and I had really good mucus these last few days despite being on clomid (a possible side effect is it dries up your mucus). I'm really feeling hopeful and positive for the first time in months.

smilanatu: congrats on af! It's not too often I get to write that phrase on this site, LOL!

pbstar: love your attitude!

danielsgirl1113: I"m so sorry for your loss. I'll keep you in my prayers and sending cyberhug

Natty: I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. I'm praying for you
There are no hard and fast rules of how to get preg, but my friend who's had a bunch of babies swears by the every other day rule starting after af ends

berecca623: Just remember not to let baby-making take over your whole life (yeah, easier said than done, and I was totally obsessed before our first). It won't make a baby come any faster, but it will make the wait less painful. I"m pulling for you.

Canary: after I posted my last message, I asked the kids if they'd seen crocuses and they said yeah, we had one, but the baby picked it (the baby is five) *double sigh*

Trac73: still praying really hard for your dad.

Hi everyone,
Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm so glad I found this site. I didnt even know sites like this exsisted, but thank God they do. I am not use to some of the abbreviations that you use on here, ( I have a good idea what some of them mean but as for the acutal words I'm at a loss. ) I am looking forward to recovering from my D & C so that my husband and I can resume our bedroom life. When I was having complications with my pregnancy the Dr said to hold off until my next appointment ( a month later ) and then when we went to the appointment we found out that we lost our angel. I know everyone is different as far as the recovery from a D&C, I hope I recover soon. I had it done on the 7th. I didnt have any bleeding at all until some spotting on the 10th and then an actual "flow" on the 11th that I still have. ( Please forgive me if this is TMI, I'm sorry! ) I am awaiting my Dr's appointment on the 27th of this month, ( The day after my 27th birthday). I hope that all goes well and that she says we can try for a baby again soon. I found a charm online that is for women who had experienced a M/C and my husband is going to order it for me. I think it will help to have something close to me to phyically remind me of my angel, eventhough I will never forget. I'm sorry for rambling, I hope each of you have a great day, and I hope for good news for everyone! Hugs!! :grouphug: :bluedust:

Hi everyone
I'd just like to say that I am totally over this hot weather in Melbourne. It's just not right!! 40 degree just wants to make me freeze myself in an ice cube. Bring on Winter!!

Well AF showed up on Monday I think it was, so no luck this month, wasn't really trying anyway but there was a small tiny amount of hope.
Still haven't made it to the doctors, just too hot to catch buses and walk in this weather, hopefully I can make it next week!

Had a good chat last night with DP, which was nice, good to get a few things off my chest. Lately I feel like I have been a slave to my emotions. SO up and down. I guess it's just my body re adjusting still plus I am under a considerable amount of stress and DP still hasn't secured a job after our move down here and things are starting to become strained financially not to mention living at home with my dad. Just want my own space again.

Hi to everyone, I haven't had time to read all your posts, miss a few days and you're really behind.

Hope you're all well!!
Good Luck to everyone and welcome to the new ladies, best of luck!

..Laura

Quick update!!!

:bfp: :bfp: :bfp:

Off to the medical centre now to get BT referrals. Gonna ask for 3 so I can get them done 3 days apart and keep an eye on the hcg levels.

I know that this will not prevent another m/c or anything, but it gives me something positive to focus on today.

Will pop back on later tonight. :grouphug:

Firstly - thanks everyone for your warm welcome. Its sad that all of us have to be posting in this section but its comforting to know that there are kind, warm ladies to turn to in cyberspace!

Brockstar - wow congratulations on your BFP. :clap:

And thanks to everyone for their advice re: how often to BD. I guess DH and I are enjoying each other and thats most important. Its his birthday today and I bought a little 'outfit' which is going to bring lots of laughs tonight. I read on one of the other posts about how men feel like they are being taken advantage of around "o" time, so I am pulling all stops to make DH realise its because I love him too - not just TTC...

Wishing all of us BFP's very soon! Hope you all have a great day.

:happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyo u:

Well done Brockstar, congrats on your BFP!!!

BROCKSTAR -- I'm SOOOO happy for you! I will be praying for nothing but wonderful news in the future! :clap::clap: I hope that you are starting a "trend" for the rest of us on here too! Maybe it's something in the water? If so please send some to Florida for me!!! and Pass it around for all the other wonderful women on here!

Again ..... I'm so very very happy for you. I have a smile on my face!:D

( how long have you been TTC? )

Ok... well where to begin.

Canary.... Yes I m sticking to the exercise routine..... I actually had myself running on the cross trainer on Tuesday night... thought I would die but hey... I didnt so i ve increased it even further. I did try "body balance" but seriously... the instructor looked like he was high as a kite... doin some 'funky' chit.... ahhhh not me.... I just stood there thinking ..... I m nearly bloody 40..... what the hell am I doing.

pbstar..... you are right.... All we can do is the best we can do and make sure we do everything we can..... from there... we just have to accept that anything further than that is out of our control.... unless your prepared to go to further extremes with IVF and all sorts of assisted conception..... which having done that already myself... i would be cautious in doing so..... there is a whole other world of not so nice out there in the assisted conception world.

Nickster.... Nickster... Nickster..... great to see you and how is that big fat tummy comin along :bellyrubs: :bellygrowing: :bellyrubs: .... Now were nt you just jiggy for the sake of jiggy....:p

Treelo.... I will send you her details in a PM..... she is amaizing... qualified midwife as well..... as for your age.... well she has a view on that dont you worry....... apparently we (between 35 and 40 peoples) apparently we are NOT old..... and just because I can... I m going to agree with her ;)

Brockstar...... CONGRATS GIRL.... yet another fat tummy coming our way.

Trac73.. Best of luck with your dad...... and thanks for the congrats with opperation "huge butt"

Tempus.... Ok... well I am lost..... "DTD" ....please explain... i ve sat here looking at it thinkin...hmmmm....hmmmm....hmmmmm nope... cant work that one out.

Danielsgirl.... you are not rambling... and you are not TMI.... Just be you and deal with your loss in your way... stop trying to please anyone but yourself.... OK... now dont make me smack your hand..... (goodness... i havent had to threaten a smack in a while) You lost your baby... you have to think of you... you have to recover.... its all about YOU.... now I have something that might help..... below my name you will see a link to "angel babies" This is my web site... for my twin angels I lost on new years eve and new years day this year..... read through it... have a great cry... allow yourself to grieve and allow yourself to put yourself as your priority. :hugs:

ll80...... ohhh girl.... wish I could help..... living with your dad and DP still looking..... OHHHH i think it would drive me insane..... ohhh hold on a sec... thats assuming that i am sane...... The good news is that with the unemployment rate as low as it is, it is deffinately an employee market. I am interviewing tomorrow for some positions.... ohhhh its not like it used to be... now I have people unqualified coming to interviews wanting big dollars and they just dont have a clue... If i go back 3 years ago I would still get them but I would also get well qualified NORMAL people.....I just want NORMAL back... sniff sniff.

Natty.... thats the hardest part.... working out how to make sure you bd at "o" but not making it as BD at "o"..... and oooohhh lately... i m no expert there.... last "o" I picked a fight and this "o" he did. Me managed to get in BD the night before "o" but I dont like our chances ..... My thought is BD as much as you want...

Now... where is Birthday Buddy... looking....looking....looking.....

Hey bday buddy here I am!! .8 you say - great start hun! Sorry been a bit quiet - still lurking and keeping updated but sometimes I am a little over-whelmed by it all - the TTC journey that is. Had acupuncture and naturopath appts yesterday and they were good positive appts. It'll be mid-april in no time and DHs swimmers will be chasing my eggie like long-lost lovers :) Hope ur DH is being good to you and talking at least at the appropriate times this cycle ;) - I really do hope it's ur cycle this time for a BFP!! If not, maybe it'll be next cycle and we could be belly and then baby buddies together - to grow from our bday buddy thang!
Congrats brockstar - well done hun! :confetti:
Welcome to the newbies - the ladies in here are so lovely - I will certainly support you all i can too :)
:grouphug: to everyone!!!

Hi everyone and a big hello to the newbies - welcome and like everyone else I hope your stay here is a short one. In the meantime, you will find this to be a place of wonderful women who have helped me personally through some very dark days.

Angel babies - please ask your chinese med practioner about the herbs and what it is called. I could then ask my naturopath about taking them. I am keen to take anything that has 'anti-mc' in the description. I also take a heap of herbs and tablets each day - it is amazing how it just becomes part of the morning and evening routine. At least we know that we have been taking care of ourselves pre-conception. Well done on the weight loss. I was hoping to lose some weight before the BFP but guess that will get put on hold - such a shame :D

As for when to BD in the lead up to O - well I went every day. I thought about the every 2nd day thing, and decided to just try every day - and well it seemed to work. Or like my mother told me - 'Kate you need to be like newlyweds'! I never thought I would have that conversation with my mother.

I hope everyone is doing okay. I will send you all a :grouphug: as we can never have enough of those. Also, for those in Melbourne - Frances Perry hospital run a Subsequent Pregnancy Support Group. It is for people who are considering TTCing after a loss, and for those that are pregnant. It looks like it offers both group and one on one sessions. It is run by a midwife at Frances Perry. So if that is where you will deliver next time, then it might be worth looking into. I called today and they are going to send me more info. It is on their website under 'Educational Seminars' or something like that.

Went to see my OB yesterday after my M/C In Feb.
He gave me 1 pescrption for Primulot (to be used if AF doesn't turn up in next 45 days)
1 pescription, with 5 repeats for clomid (7 cycles worth) I'm on 100mg.
and 7, day 21 blood test referals.

He then said I could book in to see him in 7 months. Or I could be all optimistic and not book because I'd have to book in eairler when I get a BFP. (well he didn't say BFP but you get the drift)

So I'm crossing fingers for AF to turn up in the next 2-3 weeks, then we can start all over again.

cheers all

Hey Everyone

Tempus - Thanks for your prays for my dad. I am really looking forward to seeing him today. He has now had one weeks worth of treatment so we have 6 weeks to go. I too am hoping to start BDing tonight. I really am aiming to BD every other day in hope for a BFP for when my dad finishes his treatment how nice would that be?

Danielsgirl - My mum bought me a pendant when i ahd my first m/c back in 2001. I carry it everywhere with me and have revisited in with both my recent m/c. I find it special and a reminder of my precious babies. As time goes by i have found that i have not needed to look at it as much but when i need my babies near me i look at it and kiss it many times.

Brockstar - :stickyvibesboy::happyforyou::stickyvibesgirl: Congrats i am hoping this is the new kick off we need for more BFP here.

Katiegirl - I agree you never think you would talk to your mother about BD but when things like this happen it seems to become a topic of conversation. My mothers advice to me was to BD everyday because surely then you cannot miss.....but who has the energy to BD everyday after working and chasing after a 3 year old... i surely don't

Well off to pick up my beautiful daughter from Daycare so we can make a cake for Poppy and Granma.

Take Care Hello to all the girls i have missed
Trac
:bluedust::bluedust::bluedust:

hi everyone!!
welcome to the newbies, hope your stay is short and sweet.
sorry I havent been around but I am just soooooooo tired, working and coping with the ALL DAY sickness is just not good, anyway, had the day off today, just couldnt face going in today.:rolleyes:
I still havent booked in for my ultrasound, I know this will sound silly, but I am just too scared, I dont think I can cope with it, as I found out that my last pregnancy was over at my first us.
Some of you girls may remember beaksie, she now has a BFP to add to our list!!

heres some more :bluedust::bluedust::bluedust: good luck all.
xxx
p.s.
apparantley I am 7 wks and 6 days, according to the doc.

Hi everyone, just been popping in for quick ones until after "O" day.

Just wanted to say congratulations Brockstar!!!!!!! :happyforyou: Sending you heaps of :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:

Got my GF's funeral tomorrow, looking forward to an end to this loooooong week, then next week I'll be in the 2WW, yippee. Really looking forward to the journey this time (can someone please remind me of that when I am thinking about POAS at 7DPO!).

Oh, I haven't said congrats to Angel yet, well done with the .8kg, that's great! They always say slow and steady is the best way. My mum did weight watchers and they recommended only .5kg per week, it took her a year but she lost 25kgs and has kept it off for about 2 years now (apparently bc she did it the right way).

Take care everyone!!!

Jodsan, will be thinking of you tomorrow.

Danielsgirl, I bought a charm from lafemmebelle.com or something like that. It's a small gold heart with 2 tiny footprints on 1 side and LOVE on the other. Just in the process of buying a long enough chain so I can slip it over my head. It's 14c gold plated, so I want to preserve it the best I can.

Angel, good work on the weight loss! Everyone has said it: slow is best. My OH and I did Sureslim a few years back, and whilst we lost lots of weight, because the loss was so rapid, it all came back on when we stopped.

Starrysky, I don't blame you for being a little apprehensive about booking your u/s. Revisiting something that was so emotionally painful last time is a huge thing. I am sure that you will have a very clear moment when all your stars are aligned and you will make that call. One small step at a time. Remind me of this when it's my turn, will you?

Trac73 - how was your visit with your dad today? I hope that he is feeling as well as can be expected.

Mel A - here's hoping for :AF: for you soon...

:hello: to all the other lovely, supporting ladies in the thread. It's only a short visit tonight, have one very sick little boy on my hands. I think it's gonna be a loooonnnngggg night :rolleyes:

Have appt to see my OB tomorrow. I only wanted to chat to him on the phone for 1 minute this afternoon, but his receptionist insisted that I book an appt to see him instead (mainly due to m/c). I feel a bit of a goose because I know he's just gonna tell me to come back in 2 weeks and then hopefully we'll see something. Who knows? He may do a surprise u/s - you never know what we'll find! That is of course, if I am 5 weeks.

Hi all
Just wanted to say hello as I join you girls on this TTC journey. This is our first cycle TTC since loosing our baby in January. I'm still afraid of how I will feel when I do fall pg again, but I'm sure the joy and happiness will over ride the fear.

We are not charting yet just keeping and eye on cycle day's and cm. Up to day CD14 and have watery cm so it's Game On for hubby and me :D

Baby dust to all

Seenabeena - welcome :hugs: but so very sorry for ur loss. I think we can all relate to that fear of falling pg after the loss of our angels - wishing you heaps of courage for ur TTC journey :goodluck:
Jodsan - my thoughts are with u on this sad day :hugs:
trac - my thoughts are always with u and ur dad - take care hun
Hi and hugs to everyone else - :grouphug:

Hello Everyone

Brockstar - Dad is doing well this week. Dr's have told him that the first few weeks he might not notice many changes. It was great to see him and see that he is doing well he just looked a bit tired but tha is expected.

Starrsky - Wow 7 weeks and 6 days that is fantastic:confetti. Well actually you will be 8 weeks today by the time you get to read this :D You go for your U/S when you feel ready. No it is not silly to be scared i remember after my first m/c and preg going for that u/s was terrifying and when i heard the heartbeat of my daughter i cried ans was so relieved, but i totally understand where you are coming from. Goodluck:goodluck: with your u/s when you decide to go.

Jodsan - i will be thinking about you today, my thoughts are with you :hugs:

Seenabeena - Welcome and i hope your time here is short

plc1805 - Thankyou for your thoughts in relation to my dad

I would like to say thankyou to all the ladies in here for there support and thoughts through my journey of not only TTCing but also with my dad currently in treatment.:grouphug:

Well no BD last night as planned as both of us were extremely tired and there was just no way it was going to happen. I am crossing fingers for tonight as i really don't want to miss out on any opportunities as in really would like to have a BFP this month i am feeling really positive about this month but we just need to BD or otherwise it won't happen:lol:

Take and fingers:crossfingers::crossfingers:: for more BFP

Went to FS today for hysteroscopy (didn't hurt, just felt peculiar) and ultrasound and guess what--four follicles! Frankly, words fail me. Then they want to see me again on Sunday for another ultrasound and I have to take some injection called Ovudril to make the follicles release the eggs (I'm not sure why he doesn't trust my body to do it on its own, I shoulda asked). So we'll see!

DTD=doing the deed (sorry, a carry-over from the NFP website I go to sometimes)

Brockstar: congratulations! I'll be keeping you in my prayers

ll80: sorry about af

Mel A: so sorry for your loss, and I wish you all the best of luck with the fertility meds. I'll keep fingers crossed for you!

Trac73: fingers extra crossed!!!

STARRYSKY: best of luck--it's hard to be brave. I'll be praying you have a perfect ultrasound
and thanks for the FYI on Beaksie!

Jodsan: I'm so sorry for your loss of GF. I"ll keep your family in my prayers and I hope you have some good news in your personal life--a BFP

seenabeena: I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you don't have too long to wait for bfp

Hi everyone,
I hope everyone had a good day today. As for me, I had a really good day. Nothing really spectacular happened, my hubby and I took the boat out and spent some time on the water. It was nice and the first time I have really been out of the house in a week. It's been a week today since my M/C. But today was a good day.

I just wanted to say HI and that I hope everyone is feeling great and being as happy as possible. I will keep all of you in my prayers. Take care everyone!

Hi Ladies
Just a quick update after my OB appt today. Yes, I still feel like a goose for wasting his time today - it was his day off, but had come in to see some clients - I could've easily asked him what I wanted to over the phone, but his receptionist INSISTED that I see him...

Anyway, he did a quick u/s, nothing to be seen, but as it's early days yet, I am neither here nor there about it. My endo lining has thickened considerably, meaning 1 of 2 things: pregnancy or AF... And since I am having pregnancy symptoms (boobs finally a bit tender and all day queasiness), he is leaning towards pregnancy, but is hesitant to confirm anything just yet.

So, we're back off to see him early April for some better results :crossfingers:

Sorry no personals, DS is still sick, so we're off to bed early....

My goodness - I've been away for a week and am struggling to catch up on what I've missed. Some good cyber cake which I'm a tad disappointed about.... naughty me splurged on some 'real life' cake on more than one occasion though :p over the past week

Danielsgirl, Natty & seenabeena - welcome. I hope you all find good support in here and that you get your BFP's real soon.

Angelbabies - reading back through some of the posts from the last week - you always have the words of wisdom!! Thank you!!

DH and I had an ok break - DH was sick for first 2 days so that was a little disappointing but nothing either of us could do about it. The resort was full of pg woman and couples with young bubs and kids. Booked myself into a day spa and two very pg women walked in after me. Felt so deflated!!! Had to try & tell myself that they've been sent there to pass on 'pg vibes' to me. Still feel a tad depressed and wished I had sourced an 'adults only' boutique style resort - only that's no guarantee that there won't be any pg women there. Wasn't quite the recharge that I had hoped. Did some good shopping etc but emotionally I don't feel any better off:wall: Temp has been a little weird, have had inconsistent waking times but I am def in tww - somewhere. If af not here in 10 days & temp still up I might test.

Sorry such a depressing post but I needed to vent and no one understands like you guys.

Tomorrow will be a better day ;)

Okay, so this is our first "official" try since mc. We did BD all week, my fingers are crossed!

Welcome danielsgirl,Seenabeena and any others I may have read over. As the other ladies have stated I am truly sorry for your losses, but this forum and the wonderful ladies in it will give you hope!

Congrats to all the BFPs!!!

Everyone have a wonderful weekend!

well girls, ive been away from my computer for a few days, and have sooo much to catch up on!I have had a friend and her beautiful 10 month old bub staying over for a few days..it was so wonderful to play with him,a nd hold him in my arms...so hanging to have my own to hold....

firstly:
Danielsgirl, Natty & seenabeena - welcome. as everyone else has said, so sorry you have to be here, but its a wonderful source of support.

to all the BFP's: girls, my thoughts are with you, wishing you all wonderful healthy pregnancies :)

to everyone else, im really praying that a few more of us get BFP's tis month, and get some xmas present babies!

thanks to all of you who have offered words of wisdom re BDing when parents are next door! you all brought a smile to my face! Not sure if well be albe to sneak out, definitely no beach around here, but i guess well just have to be really quiet! Im def not missing out on this opportunity...when its "o" time its "o" time!!!!!!!

Have a lovely weekend...:p

Hi everyone, thanks for all your support, aweful day yesterday, first time I have seen my Dad cry :( Glad its over though.

Geez I'm feeling grumpy and hormonal today, I am due to O tomorrow but it's really coming on strong. I must have some weird hormonal balance, after my really lumpy boobs leading up to AF, I have had the worst stomach/uterus/ovary cramps leading up to O this week. I usually only have slight ovary pain for a couple of hours when I O but it's going to be more difficult to detect this month (I dont do temps). Bit annoying since we were trying the 2 day cut off to TTC a girl. Does anyone else get this full on hormonal lead up? Is it normal? :dunno:

Smilanatu - I'm so sorry for your loss, fingers crossed for you this month sweetie :crossfingers:

AJC - big hug sweetie :hug:. Hoping all the pregnant women at the resort did rub off on you and you get a BFP this month.

Brockstar - It's sounding really promising, sending you lots of :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Tempus - Good luck hatching the eggies this week!!

Trac - Thinking of you and your dad sweetie. Now you take some time out for you and get busy BDing ;)

Seenabeena - Welcome, but I am so sorry for your loss. I feel the same way as you, mixed emotions, terrified and excited about the prospect of a BFP again. We're all here to offer support and cyberhugs, hope you get a BFP really soon.

Big hello to everyone else, sending you lots of :bluedust:

Hi ladies!!

Jodsan - so sorry that u had such a crappy day yest - I remember the first time I saw my dad cry - you don't forget it. I have been known to get that full-on hormonal lead-up. More recently I was getting it with avengeance 2-3 days b4 AF - would want to just drink on my own and drown my sorrows. It hasn't happened since I had my lap. But during O time it varies - sometimes more pain, sometimes more nausea, sometimes it feels like AF. Take care of urself hun.

tina -got to hold my friend's 2nd bub today (3 weeks old) and that was a great fix!! It was like I was imagining holding the bub I lost (2nd m/c) in june who would have been born a little earlier in Jan. Nice but sad.... U def need to bd at o time love. Another tip for when ur folks are over - I'm not necessarily recommending it by the way but my sil tells of the charming way my bro puts a cushion over her face (I'm sure she can still breathe) to stop any noise she might make DTD (sorry if TMI) but I laugh cos my sil is always more vocal about stuff like that and my bro is always so mortified - lol!! GL!

AJC - chin up hun!! u need to vent - see below, I'm having a vent myself!

Brockstar - take care of urself hun.

danielsgirl - the boat sounds just like what the doc ordered - how wonderful!!

Hi to smilanatu, tempus, trac, seenabeena, starrysky, katiegirl, mel a, bday buddy and all you other lovely lovely ladies.

as for me, bit down, not one of my more cheery days. a friend of mine had a baby a month ago and came to visit today. I got my fix with lots of hugs. our boys are around the same age and she had her DD 19mths after her first which is the kind of gap I wanted between bubs 1 and 2. you and I know that, huge understatement, timing can be really off about these things (sigh) and they don't come as quickly as we would like. but then my friend said she wants to have the same gap between bubs 2 & 3. Ever since she said that I have felt so down - what she is doing is exactly what I wanted to do - and I just hate my circumstance and my own body in times like these. Tomorrow will be better and I will feel more positive again but today I feel my old sad feelings (a bit like being kicked in the teeth). thanks guys - just have to vent - want to cry tho.

Hi to everyone. I hope you are having lovely weekends.

TM - good to hear about your lap and I hope all goes well this cycle.

PLC - sorry to hear you are a bit down. I always get a bit sad when I hear people talking about their baby plans. I think it might be partly because for all of us, our plans are tinged with sadness and anxiety, and yet other people talk about it like it is so easy. We of course know how this baby business is anything but easy! So big hug and I think you are amazing to be so strong.

Well I have had an up and down day. When I woke this morning and went to the bathroom I noticed a brownish smear on the paper (sorry TMI). I of course got worried. I check an hour later and it was there again but only when I wiped. I then started to get worried and burst into tears with my mother. It just felt so hard, and I didn't feel I could stand more stress. Thankfully it appears to have stopped and I have been to the toilet a million times to check. My sister told me that she always get a brownish mucous in the early stages and then it goes away, so hoping that is all it is. I am anxious and I think I will call my Ob when I get back to Melbourne on Monday. I am glad I am here with my mum as I don't think I would have liked having DH's dad and best friend around at a time like this. I am trying to stay positive and not get too worried.

Sorry for lack of personals - I just had to get that out. I am praying like mad!

Good luck to you all on the 2WW and for those approaching O. I am praying for some more BFPs in here.

Jodsan - I'm really sorry you had a crap day and saw your father cry, it is not a nice sight and you always feel helpless. However having said that maybe he really needed it? I think we sometimes underestimate the power of a good cry for men seeing as they rarely show such emotion! Hope things improve for you!

PLC - I'm glad you enjoyed your day but I totally sympathise with you. Especially after gf just having had her 2nd and already talking about timing for her 3rd! Chin up sweetie I am sure it will happen for you soon! For ALL of us soon!!! :pray:

Katiegirl - try not to stress too much and if you can't stop thinking about it go to your doc, I am sure there is something they could do to check it all out! My bff had that happen to her twice and is now happily and healthily 16 weeks pg, nothing bad at all! I am sure that is all it is for you, something inactive and nothing to worry about!

As for me I have FINALLY finished weekend school, now just have to catch up on 2 weeks worth of lectures, readings and lab activities for 2 subjects, that and complete all 4 online activities that are marked plus find time for 4 assignments! No wonder I haev had no time to post on both of these forums (also TWW). Tomorrow morning is POAS for me so either way I will know what to expect for Monday! Wish me luck :pray: :crossfingers: :goodluck:

Kategirl - :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: They say it's only red/fresh blood that you are meant to worry about. Hugs to you, I'm sure everything will be fine - take it easy and do something to spoil yourself tomorrow.

Berecca - Good luck tomorrow :bluedust:

Plc - Hugs for you. It's so tough when those close to you are having babies when it 'should' be you too. We have a friend coming to visit next weekend with their 3 mth old - I know it's going to be hard but I really want to be happy for them.I'm sure they won't expect me to be jumping for joy but sometimes I wish people could step into my shoes just for 30 seconds so they know how I feel.

Jodsan - I never used to get hormonal pre-o but I have the last 2 mths - even spotting around O time which is weird for me. Am also very hormonal post O too, last month my boobs were so tender I had myself convinced that I was pg and when I poas and got BFN I was gutted! This month the tender breasts are back but they're not going to trick me this time! Who knows what my body is doing. I wish our bodies were like computers and came with programs that explain how they work?!?!? If only.

Tinak - our first angel bub was conceived at DH's parents place. We felt a little gross about it at first but we figured if they knew they'd be so happy they were going to be grandparents that they wouldn't care.

Hope everyone else is enjoying their weekend. :bluedust: for all!!!

Hi Ladies

Wow so much gets posted in such a short time!

Brockstar - hope DS is feeling better. Your u/s sounds promising. Sending you lots of best wishes for it to be positive!

Jodsan - sorry about your GF funeral. They always take a lot out of you so be sure to look after yourself the next few weeks.

Seenabeena - sorry that you are joining this group because it means you had to suffer the loss of your little one. But as I have found the ladies here are wonderful.

Trac - hope your Dad is feeling ok. I so wish you get a BFP both for you and DH and your Dad.

Tempus moriendi - sorry to sound ignorant but was is a hysteroscopy? The four follicles sounds positive - isnt that eggs that are ready to be released? If so, I hope that a little swimmer meets one of them very soon!

Danielsgirl112 - sorry to hear that you too are joining this group. Take your time to grieve and remember to look after yourself.

AJC - dont you hate when wherever you go there are pregnant women? I work in a hospital with a large maternity section and ever since my m/c it seems like the number of pregnant women attending the hospital has quadrupled. Even just seeing a pregnant woman from a distance is like having an ice bucket thrown over my head (even though I am happy for them!)

TinaK - when DH's mum comes over for 2-3 weeks we always BD in the shower - she cant hear because the exhaust fan is on!

Plc - isnt it so hard when all your friends are having babies when you wanted/planned on having them? I have had to revise the 'gap' between DD and our next baby about ten different times for various reasons including m/c and it makes it so hard when you see your friends doing what you want your life to be doing. Your day will come though - when it is right for you.

Bec - another ignorant question - what is POAS? Good luck with the 4 assignments? What are you studying?

I actually have a TTC question. I have been BDing nearly every second day with DH and have been using OPKs every day since Sunday (Saturday night now). We BD'd on Friday, Sunday, Tuesday and Friday but nothing showing on the OPK's (not even a faint line) but on Wednesday night I had CM which I normally have right before O (and I am pretty sure it wasnt swimmers - sorry for TMI!!). I wont describe it because its gross but it is something which I normally have happen so I am assuming from that it was O. But then how can it be if I havent had anything show up on the OPK? I dont temp chart because I can never remember so CM and OPKs are the only way I know....

Hope you are all having a great weekend.

Natty - POAS is **** On A Stick, elegant I know!!! :lol: I am studying my second year of a Grad Dip of Psychology, at the moment I am a teacher, working fully time. As for your question, when are you using the OPK? Sorry for the question for a question! I would safe keep doing what you are doing until you do get a + OPK and keep going until a - OPK, make sense??

Good morning ladies, such an emotional day for me today! :cry:

Woke up at 6am to take my temp which hasn't dropped, and then took 20 min to convince myself to get up and POAS even though I was busting for the loo :redface: :doh:

Anyway then took another 10 min to get the courage up to look and see and imagine my shock and surprise when I saw :bfp: I woke up DH straight away, and needless to say at first he wasn't all that impressed! :cryinglaugh: and his reponse "let's just wait and see". Very safe of him but I understand!

I am so happy, excited, elated, amazed, nervous and a tad scared! The pg line was fainter than the other but easily seen at a distance. It is darker than my last pg. I have decided to be positive as possible for this pg and hope this also helps it to stick. Next step is booking the ob, I don't want to miss out.

Anyway there is my news, albeit I am still pinching myself to make sure it is true!

:confetti::confetti: Berecca - already posted on 2WW but had to congratulate u again!!! Ur DH has good grounding but don't allow urself to miss the joy of a BFP!! Well done!! :confetti::confetti:

:happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyou:
Yay Berrecca!! SSSssoooooo Happpyyy for you !!!!!! xxxx

:stickyvibesboy: for you and the rest of the BFP gang!
Plenty of room for more- fingers crossed those TWW xx

Well, I say plenty of room- I can't do any of my trousers up! Been walking around with buttons and zippers undone. Went clothes shopping today (not fun on Saturday especially with the local footie match on!) Anyway, I'm a total short ass and also very slim (don't hate me!) so the maternity stuff is just hopeless! Ended up buying one pair of trousers which I'll have to chop about 6 inches off the bottom and wear a belt, plus a few 'non-maternity, just bigger sized' tops to hang over my undone buttoned ordinary trousers. I want to bloom- not splodge!!
LOL

Berecca - I just logged on because I was dying to know what your pg test said - I was soooo happy when I saw your news. :happyforyou: Wishing you the happiest and healthy pregnancy ever!!!!

Big Congrats Brecca!! I hope everything goes smoothly!!!

NIckster--Happy to see you're getting all spodgy!! hehe enjoy it it's the only time you don't have to feel guilty about it. Just go with the flow!!

Hi to everyone else.

Nothing much to report here, same old same old!

Good Luck to everyone in the TWW!!

..Laura