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Stickbaby -- welcome to the thread. Remember, we know you're NOT mad! *hug*
Yeah, about the doppler and the placenta... when the MW listened for a heartbeat with her doppler at our week 20 appointment, we learned that we'd been listening to the placenta the whole time with our home doppler rather than the actual heartbeat. But we got her to admit that it's same same -- the heart beat is like little horse hooves and the baby's circulation through the placenta sounds just like "whoosh whoosh whoosh" 150 times a minute or so, but it's the same speed as the heartbeat and, as the MW said, is just as good as the heartbeat for acknolwedging that the baby is still ticking!
This baby is tick-tick-ticking on my bladder all day long :P
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Damnit!!! I had such a long reply and of course hit a button and it disappeared :angry:
Stickybaby, I'm so glad you've found your way here, it's a wonderful group of supportive women.
Firstly, please don't base your decision on what others think. If you want to try again and DH is supportive that is all that matters (having a great Mum helps too!!). People who have not lost a baby cannot possibly understand what it's like so they can't really offer valuable advice. Expressing an opinion is one thing, but they should also respect and support your choices. I think if you base your decision on what other people think you may look back in 10 or 20 years and regret it.
Secondly, I can personally recommend the professor at the fetal medicine unit at the Canberra hospital. He's also the main obstetrics lecturer at the ANU, and I have seen him in newspaper articles on pregnancy problems/issues so he's something of an authority. He's also very open to your wishes regarding treatment. For instance it wasn't a clear cut case of me requiring heparin but it was what I wanted so he was happy to go along with that. He's also nice and sensitive. He does pre-pregnancy counselling but you have to book a few months in advance (I had booked in but was pregnant two months prior to the appontment so ended up seeing him a lot sooner!). You can do all pregnancy care through the unit and they are very thorough with the ultrasounds.
Thirdly, I don't know what kind of tests you've had but try and get copies of the results to take with you to whomever you end up seeing. Educating youself on the results and what they men can also help, some doctors do miss things.
I'm so glad that you're up and about and still functioning after the loss of your last baby. You're very brave and strong and a wonderful mother, your kids are very lucky.
Hi to everyone else, I should be leaving for work so I don't have time for personals, will write soon!!
Qucik question, did anyone struggle with when to buy baby stuff?? I have not bought anything yet... half of me doesn't want to 'jinx' it I suppose, half of me wants to be totally positive and another half (I'm three halves!) is worried that if something were to go wrong I'd have no keepsakes. We didn't but much for Edward so it's not like we have a lot already. I went to the movies on Wednesday night with a girl from work, and beforehand I had an hour or so in town so I thought I'd buy a couple of small things but just couldn't... going into a baby shop just made me sad that I was never able to do it for Edward. I think I just don't much like being in shops by myself anymore!!!
We have Alec's cousin's wedding thing this evening (he married a Polish girl in Poland so now it's the Australian relatives' thing), I'm not looking forward to the questions from some... his grandfather's girlfriend is soooo irritating (the most annoying 85 year old you could come across!) so I think I'll just have to walk away.
Other than that bubs is doing great, really active and I love being in new pregnancy territory, getting bigger and kicks getting stronger. Only one more week of work till Chrissy and I can't wait!!!
Love Rozzie
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Katiegirl, MrsRobbo, dd0207: thanks for your kind words and wishes
stickybaby: I could really relate to your post when you said about doubting yourself and listening to other peoples' opinions. DH and I have a couple close friends we told about this last preg, but when you lose so many like you and I have, it gets tiring telling people you're pregnant and then having to un-tell them. And although people mean well, sometimes they don't understand the desire for "one more" baby. It's cliche, but you really have to follow your own heart on this one, and not listen to other people. THEY don't have to live your life, but you do.
Hammi: I had some strong cramping this morning, and on and off all day, but no bleeding yet. Thank you for your words of encouragement.
Tildy: happy for you!
Rozzie27: this was only an issue with our first, but we started buying things for him after the 20 week mark. (for my daughters, we already had the stuff, obviously). Best of luck!
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Hey Girls
how are you all doing. So much stuff going on with everyone!
Lan, to answer your question... yes the detox foot bath was the thing with all the black/brown gunk coming out. I was a bit skeptical but to be honest I have felt amazing ever since. Between that and the progesterone cream I really feel like I am in pretty good shape. I have also been following a mostly raw food eating plan. I'm vego, mostly vegan and have completely cut out preservatives and sugar. It is amazing how much better I feel for it.
DH and I are getting very excited about ttc next month. Every now and then though the 'what if' thought pops in my head and I completely freak out. I think all you PG women, and those that have recently suffered more losses are so incredibly brave. I just hope I find some of that courage when I do finally get my BGP. At least I'll know that I have done everything I possibly can to give this bub a fighting chance.
Sue: goss please on anniversary dinner. sounded like it could get racy!!
Helen, Laney and Rozzie: I know you've probably said already but if forgot, when are next scans etc. Sue yours must be just around the corner is it.
TM: I hope you are doing ok. I was telling DH about you last night and talking about how awful you must feel right now. Our thoughts are with you.
Sticky: so sad you had to come back here, but welcome. I heard about your loss through one of the other girls on here and my heart goes out to you. Have you had any testing done at all. Were all your losses early. My only suggestion is to have your progesterone levels checked. I say that to everyone because it has helped me so much and all the research I have done link it so heavily with pregnancy. Anyway, if its testing you want to know about you're in the right spot. I'm sure between all of us here we've had every test known to man done! Don't be shy in asking us questions. We'd love to help in any way we could.
Katie: i'm gonna to that skinny white ass whooping thing again if you don't post more pics of baby Anna soon!! seriously though, i hope the BF is sorting itself out. Once you nail it, it is very rewarding and you get such a strong connection.
And what a collection of ttcers we are getting. Correct me if I'm wrong but we now have Jo, Lan, Megan, Diana and myself and possibly Sticky. Did I forget anyone. Let me know if I did! Ok everyone stand in a big circle and I'm going to sprinkly some super powered baby dust over all of us. Then we can all dance around chanting to some funky ttc beats and have a riot of a time.
There I feel good to go, how bout everyone else!!
Ok, gotta run. Love to all and take care of yourselves!
Paula
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Hi all,
Well we had a fantastic time at our anniversary dinner. I totally love the Summit, it looks over the lights of Adelaide and it has the best food. I had my glass of Rose' and it was very nice. Though I felt bubs a lot more while drinking it!!!!! which I totally loved.
Racy night!!! no, not quite... he he he DH & I still havent "done the deed" since we found out we are pregnant. I think we are going to wait until after the 20 week scan. I think we are both nervous about having some bleeding (especially since I am on asprin) and then I would be freaking out!!!! Sad isnt it....
1 week until the 20 week scan :dance: :dance: :dance: I feel I have waiting so long. I have only been getting little bits of movement and then start to panic about it, but I think it is quite normal for 1st time pregnancies. I just want to feel bubs more.....
Stickybaby - Welcome to our thread. I am so sorry you are joining us. I am the same as Helen, have posted a couple of times in the pregnancy thread and can't seem to move from here.... I want you to know that my heart broke for you and your DH when I read your post, it really really effected me and I was considering not coming back to this site. I was so happy that you have joined us and look forward to getting to know you. Now please don't listen to others, until they walk in our shoes, they will not understand. You and DH and the perfect ones to make the decision of TTC again and we look forward to helping you in your journey.
Rozzie - totally understand where you are coming from regarding purchasing things. DH is getting excited about setting up the room and I keep on holding him back. Though I have said that if all is OK in the 20 week scan, in the new year we will go out shopping.
Tempus - thinking of you.
Paula - fingers crossed for a good fun month for you and DH ;) ;).... BFP for you next month.
Tildy - with the doppler machine - it doesnt matter what you heard, its what keeps you sane. I am so glad everything is going so well for you.
Helen - you have been quite lately - Come On I need some more info on how you are going????
To the rest of you TTC, have fun and I all hope to hear of quite a few more BFP next month.
Love to you all
xxx Sue xxx
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Hi lovely ladies, just a quick one today as am a bit busy.
First up, Lan read your private message from me pleeeease. Desperate to talk to you.
Stickybaby, I am so very sorry for your loss and welcome to this thread. I hope the new year is kinder to you.
TM, thinking of you honey.
Sue, sounds like you had a lovely night out and look forward to all the details on your next scan.
Paula, I am dancing and chanting away as suggested and calling out your name as well as Lan, Megan, Jo, Paula, TM, Stickbaby and myself. We will not only get a wave of BFPs soon, I can feel a tsunami coming!
Hi to all our pregnant ladies. Hope babies are all kicking madly.
AFM, had my IUI on Tuesday. Going for progesterone test on 16th then pregnancy test on the 23rd. Oh how I am so hoping for an early Xmas present.
Lots of love to everyone.
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Hi dd0207,
I so hope you get your Christmas pressie.
:crossfingers::crossfingers:
xxx Sue xxx
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Hi Ladies,
Im sorry it has taken me a while to get back to this thread...but I just wanted to thankyou all so much for you lovely welcomes. I have had 3 bood tests since I wrote and they each showed nicely rising HCG levels which are right on track so it seems as though everything is ok for now. Each of my 3 chem pregnancies showed no rise in hcg they just reached a certain level and then stopped, and the level was always low, hence the reason my hpt never got any darker as days went on. This time, after the faint test on Tues, I tested again on fri and it was very dark, something I had not seen since I fell pg with DS. Im terrified of m/c again, but I also know this one has higher HCG levels than the others and I have more symptoms, so that is a good start. Of course we are taking it one day at a time, Im still very cautious, I am under no illusion about how fragile the first 3 months of pg'cy are. Thankyou again for your warm welcomes and I wish you all a merry christmas and :pray: that the new year brings you your much deserved earth angel babies.
Issy
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Dear Issy,
I am so glad you are going so well.
Take care of yourself and please keep in touch. I would love to know how you are going.
xxx Sue xxx
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DD you've got a busy couple of weeks ahead haven't you. Make sure you let me know what your progesterone levels are. If you haven't noticed I'm obsessed with progesterone atm! Here's good vibes coming your way for the 23rd!
Sue: sounds like dinnner was lovely and I had to laugh re the no sex. DH and I never seem to have sex much before 20 weeks because I am always so sick. As good as sex can be when you have had so much worry to date, it is not worth doing anything that might cause you more worry. Its good that DH understands. The last thing you want is a persistent hubby when you really are not ready. Lets hope the movement picks up from here. It will give you so much comfort and will be a real signal that you're so much further than ever before!
Issy: what wonderful news re the HCG levels. Sounds like things are definitely different this time round. I will cross fingers and toes for you. I can also do a chanting dance if you like!!
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Hi everybody
Things are pretty 'normal' at the moment, except I do tend to notice if I have had a busy day, I get a few twinges here and there. Can't remember who asked but my next scan is the 6 Jan, can't wait, I think Sue is next??? Lan - I am TRYING to keep DH at bay:whip:! I really hate it, not that I was ever a sex kitten but it is really hard! Here is to a long closed cervix still at 28 weeks and I might think about it then....only 13wks to go! I rang my gynae the other day to update him on the surgery (he used to do obstetrics) and he was like 'great I don't want to hear from you now until 28wks, then not till 34wks ok', it was kinda reassuring, I told a friend today and she was very happy for me, but it still feels sooo weird telling people or accepting their congratulations. She understood how I feel though as she has had to deal with an ectopic preg and losing her left ovary and tube, and the emotions that go with it.
Issy - Great news on your HCG lvls, youv'e got a winner!
Diana - Good luck with your prog levels, and it would be great to get some xmas BFPs!!!!!
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Hi Ladies, I just got back from the doctor. I had to call them today because I have been leaking some sort of fluid. I soaked a pad everyday for the past couple of days. I just wanted to get it checked out so I didn't worry all weekend long. It turns out I have most likely been leaking a little pee. :doh: She thinks it is because this is my 3rd pregnancy in a very short period of time. I guess it should ease up a little when the baby moves up and gives my bladder a rest for a little while at least. So for now I have to be very uncomfortable and wet.
The good news is that she thought I should have another ultrasound in the office today! Everything looked good. My cervix is long and the fluid level is great. There is no way that I am leaking that much fluid from around the baby without them noticing. And she was able to tell me that IT"S A BOY!
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Yahoo Laney,
Glad everything is alright and yippee for a little boy.
Congratulations
xxx Sue xxx
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Laney I am glad it is nothing serious, and great news about a little boy! I didn't think they could tell yet, but when I had my ultrasound at 13 wks I reckon I could see something there, and then she moved the US thing away very quickly! But I quietly thought it might be a girl this time, I will just have to wait and see! YAY
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Thanks for the good vibes girls. Paula, you will be the first to know my P4 results so you can analyse away!
Issy, fantastic HCG results. Looks like things have finally turned around for you.
Laney WOO HOO, a boy! So very happy for you.
Hello to all you other lovelies. Have DHs Xmas party tonight but really don't feel like it. I actually have not been out to a party since I lost my little boy so hopefully I will get through the night.
Take care and hope you all have a lovely weekend.
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Laney: congrats on the good news at the drs. Be careful about the boy thing though... we were told Charlie was a boy at the 13week scan and when she was born found out they were wrong. It was funny though even after they told us she was a boy I still had this strong feeling she was a girl. I know 2 other people who were told boys at 13 weeks and ended up having girls. I guess they just want to keep you guessing right till the end!!
DD; good luck for the party tonight, it is so hard to put yourself back out there but its a good sign that you are going and I hope it all goes smoothly for you.
Helen: great news of drs visit. Seems like they are really relaxed so hopefully that will give you some confidence to get through the next few weeks. The 6th of Jan seems so far away but with xmas and everything hopefully it will fly by!
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Hi ladies! Since I've been on a course all week for work, I haven't been able to surf so freely during work hours. I came home last night and just crashed on the sofa the whole evening, so now I have a couple days' worth of your posts waiting for me -- wow!
Where to start...
Rozzie: I haven't bought anything at all for the baby yet, but I don't know if I've struggled either. On Sunday week 16, which was the day before Beiron's EDD, I was s down and needed a pick-up, so I took DH out to the baby store and we just strolled around. I told him right away that I didn't intend to buy anything (that was to ease HIM), but that I thought it would be nice to look around, and to do it with him there too. I decided then that I would buy something after 20 full weeks, just as a way of celebrating. But here I am 24 weeks and I still haven't bought anything. But that's mostly because I thought I'd be such a good girl and have the second floor all rearranged by then, where in reality we're still only about 1/3 of the way through that job! No sense in buying anything for the baby's room if there's still a bunch of junk in there that has to be cleared out! But I have actually planned the whole room -- and I mean with pen and paper and a floor plan and product numbers from IKEA! We have a baby buggy because DH's sister has given us hers, and we have a blanket and some bibs that we got from an online friend when we met up with her in London, but those are tucked away at the very back of a closet because we received them just three days before losing Beiron, so it still stings a bit to look at them. I remember being flustered when we received them, thinking even then that it made me nervous to have baby things that early and to have received our very first baby things from an almost complete stranger...
About Alec's cousin's wedding: just see if Alec can rescue you from his grandfather's girlfriend; either you or he can come up with a line to say if she gets irritating. :) We were at Fredrik's cousin's wedding in February, and when the groom's father (who was a couple sheets to the wind) met me he did the "Wow, are you from America? You don't have an accent at all!" but then went from there into "Now tell me then, why is it that all those Arabs can be here for 20 years and still can't bloody speak Swedish?" Fredrik hopped into action immediately, knowing surely that I would have NO problem answering that question, but probably not wanting to see me cause a scene, hehe. He was all "Gosh, it's so warm in here, why don't we go out and get some fresh air?"
TM: Are you hanging in there? I feel like there isn't much to say, but just hope that you're getting lots of hugs from your DH. *hug*
Paula: Your raw foods eating plan sounds like about the opposite of the way I've been eating lately. :redface: Although I do eat lots of fruits and veggies and fiber and always have, so I get the nutrition I need; it's just all the other stuff that I DON'T need, hehe. I tried to do a vegan diet last year for 4 weeks, with no sugar, preservatives, anything but super natural stuff. It was no problem as far as enjoying the food, as we've always eaten a good variety of food and I had plenty of vegan-friendly recipes to take from my normal repetoire (perhaps cutting out the bullion cube with the weird preservatives or the added salt or so), but I only lasted a few days before I ended up breaking out in a rash all over my face! I don't know for sure if it was related of course, but it was weird.
Sue: hope you don't take my question the wrong way, but do they not recommend total abstinence from alcohol during pregnancy in Australia? Like I said, please please don't take my question the wrong way, it's just curiousity! Over the past months I've been noticing all these different things that you guys talk about eating and not eating, and I think it's interesting when we get different recommendations. Like I suspect that you guys have gotten a more strict recommendation about lunchmeats and coffee than we get -- they still say no more than 3 cups a day here, but I cut it out entirely for the first 20 weeks because I was more comfortable with that. The Swedish recommendation on alcohol is "not a single drop," and some of the guests at my Thanksgiving party -- all men, btw! -- questioned the fact that I was eating the pie that had been made with a couple teaspoons of vanilla rum! You should see the hullibaloo there's been here lately about them now saying, after copious studies, that it's okay to have a couple glasses of wine while nursing; people are actually saying that it was irresponsible for them to come out with that info and that they instead should have kept telling us that drinking while nursing is dangerous even if it's not true!! I actually know a woman who wouldn't use deoderant during pregnancy because there's alcohol in it. Swedes are crazy sometimes.
Sue and Helen - I have to have a giggle when you guys talk about sex. I bet DH and I could go 9 months without it and not even notice, what with how much spontaneous sex we've had for the last few years, heh. Then again, this pregnancy seemed to inspire us, so we had sex several times the first trimester -- and I ended up bleeding and freaking out every time of course! So putting it off for your peace of mind is certainly not a bad idea!
DD - crossing my fingers that you'll get your early Christmas present on the 23rd! Hope you can have some fun at the party tonight.
Issy -- I'm so glad to hear that your earlier fears might have been a false alarm. I know that there are some tough weeks ahead of you, but little poppy is hanging on for now, and we've got our fingers crossed that it will stay that way!
Laney -- what a scare! But I'm glad it turned out to be benign -- and that you were reassured with a thorough scan and not just brushed off. Yay for your little boy!
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To avoid getting a beating from Sue - I have posted some more photos of Anna. I will also post some of her smiling soon.
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...00&ppuser=8726
Laney - so glad to hear all is ok. And don't be embarrassed, pregnancy does weird and wonderful things to our bodies. I often wondered if I was leaking amniotic fluid and then deduced it was just a weak bladder - charming!
